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I am not super well traveled, under 100 credits, but Hydra at Dorney park has such a bad rattle that I find it impossible to enjoy after the amazing Jojo roll.
They have an almost identical yet mirrored layout, especially the first half, yet nobody seems to acknowledge this.
Just rode Eejanaika today and I am curious what they were having us chant at the station before we were dispatched. I am an American and was clueless what was being said and am curious if anyone knows! It watch fun and catchy!
This video has a station clip: https://youtu.be/igQ-5Sb7nRw?si=KMge4Pcii3H8CBOt
With the recent closure of Alpine Bobsled, and the likely closure of La Vibora, I’m going to miss what is a super fun and unique coaster model.
Do you think we eventually could see a new version of this model— one that addresses the rain and noise problems that plagued the other models? How? What manufacturer could do it?
We walked i- Wait, wait, wait. Let's get some context. This my second fair at this location which was done by Carnival Midway Attractions. Last time I rode the Orient Express (also named The Orient) (Yes, this ride has 2 different names), and a pirate ship style attraction. The orient express was loud, but a normal amount of loud, and the ride was very rough. The pirate ship was very weak, no floater, but there was a nice ridechopper with a staircase (this location is a school). Anyway, that leads to this fair, fair 2, electric boogaloo. Here's my honest review of this fair. Spoiler Alert: >!It sucks.!<
1. The Atmosphere/Entry Experience
We walked in and we're greeted with the best entrance I've ever seen! Just kidding. We were greeted with an open gate into a basketball court. We walked around the fair to check what rides we wanted to do and we came to the conclusion we needed 20 tickets. This number will come in handy, remember this number. We're walking back and we see some of my friends, we talk for like 5 seconds, then we walk away. We walk up to electronic ticket booths (these seem very new). The prices were 7 tickets for $10, 17 tickets for $20, 27 tickets for $30, etc. Since it was 20 tickets for 2 different people, we had to buy 2 of the 20 dollar wristbands, and my god, this place is overpriced. So, let's go to the part you came here for.
2. The Rides
Our first ride was the Orient Express they had there. We walk up to the ride and the first thing I see is, well, this.
Yes. That is a car off the track, while the ride is in operation. We also noticed this.
That part is a part of the fencing (I HOPE)
Yes, a part missing from (I think) the fence. This wasn't caught by the ride operator during an inspection right before we got on. The ride operator inspected the ride and had to tighten some of those top of the pickaxe looking things. One of them had to be tightened so much I thought that there was no chance that it was normal. The ride is inspected every 3 hours, so it only took 3 hours for the ride to have to be tightened that much. The ride experience was, let's just say bad. It was rough. Really rough. And really loud. Like louder than car crashes I've heard. Anyway, since it's now missing and entire car, would anyone consider this a new credit? Maybe. I'll let the comments decide.
Our second ride was Typhoon, which is a Huss Rainbow, but not by Huss, and also really short. I don't know the manufacturer. It was ok. I don't really have anything to say about it. It's not ASTM compliant. There's no airtime, just some laterals. And it's not that tall. Also saw some other friends on this ride and decided not to ride with them. It also hurts your balls. That sounded so random. But anyway, onto ride three!
My third ride was a Himalaya ride by an unknown manufacturer. It was my first Himalaya ride and I got no airtime, just some nice classic laterals. The ride is really slow compared to other Himalaya rides I've seen (but haven't ridden). It also doesn't accelerate fast at all and it's loud, but nowhere near as loud as the ferris wheel or Orient Express. Here's a picture, hopefully someone can tell me what manufacturer made this.
WHAT MANUFACTURER IS THIS, PLEASE, I'M DYING!
My brother's third ride was Sky Fire, a classic kamikaze ride with 3 different restraints (yes you read that right). That was the longest dispatch I've ever seen, it looked like it took about 10-15 minutes. To be fair, they seemed like they didn't want to operate the ride too much, because well, as we know by the (what seems like) severe lack of maintenance. It goes upside down so many times, I think I counted 16 times (this includes all the times it goes upside down, not just the full loops around).
This is when I thought I was going to leave, but then I remembered I had 3 tickets and the website claims that the rides are 3-6 tickets, I started searching for something with 3 tickets. There was nothing. I'm not the type to complain, but this website is updated during every single fair. They should know what rides are going to be at the fair and their ticket values. But this ties into the final verdict.
The Overall Review
This place kinda sucks. It's sketchy. They don't check restraints on any of the rides. But I think I can sum this fair up to one thing. I don't think anyone cares. The ride operators don't seem like they care. The operators of the location of the fair don't seem to care. Maintenance (if there is any) doesn't seem to care. I genuinely think nobody cares about this fair.
Overall, this fair sucks. I'll end with this warning. If you're going to a fair run by Carnival Midway Attractions, please, please, choose your rides carefully, or even don't go. It seems like an accident is bound to happen soon and it's expensive anyway. Stay safe out there.
Thank you ACE and Cotaland for the awesome event! Legacy of Schwarzkopf documentary was awesome, great job to the team who put it together and be sure to check it out when you get the chance to.
What park overall has the best/most airtime across its entire lineup? I can't think of many parks that have more than 3-4 coasters with quality airtime, so I wanted to bring the question here to see what everyone thinks. I think Europa, Energylandia, and Cedar Point all have strong cases, but let me know what you think!
On 11/3/2024 My dad and I took our first ever trip to six flags over Texas. The weather forecast was not promising the day prior it said it was gonna rain around 5:00 pm . Today’s hours were 12:00 pm - 10:00 pm knowing that we had to leave around 8:00 pm to catch our flight home. We arrived at the parking tolls at about 11:15 (there was a larger thunderstorm happing at this time) then they let us in by 11:30 the opened the gate and held us in the entrance plaza. By 12:00 it pouring rain and lightning and we knew that the outdoor rides would all be close. So we hit runaway mountain and then wandered around until at about 12:50 the mine trains opened we hopped on both the by 1:10 that big rides were opening. After this it never rained again! Note that Batman had been closed the whole weekend and it continued to be closed this Sunday. But worst part of the day was titan be closed all day ( one employee said flooding another said technical difficulties) 😭but besides that I was able to get on all of the major rollercoaster reviews below (in order I rode them) ⬇️
Runway mountain x1 - this ride was solid , pretty dark inside but not pitch black, fast ops and there was 2 somewhat intense helixes and a super intense diving drop loop thing (I don’t know what you call it lol {I’m not a GP 💀}) but hopefully u know the part I’m talking about waited about 15 minutes and I was just a fun, smooth, family thrill rollercoaster that does everything it needs to do. 5.7/10
Mini mine train x1 - cool classic family/kids coster be warned that if you are 6ft or taller it is a tight squeeze, coming from my home park (six flags over Georgia) I respect it because we lost our mini mine train years ago has one bad transition but it fine and it get close to mr freeze 4/10
Mine train x1 - a respectable arrow mine train doesn’t run the best but it’s not painfully rough , has a few of those bad arrow transition but the highlight was the final drop of the third lift got a sudden pop of air time off of it lmaooo 4.7/10
Mr. Freeze x3 -I’m gonna spilt this into two park forwards and backwards (based of which way the train launches) but this ride did got down for at least two 1 hour spurts during my day but I was lucky to get my 3 rides without waiting more than 20 min each and on both sides! Forwards Freeze x1 - did this at around 2:00pm but the ride had only rain for about an hour by then soo maybe it wasn’t warmed up but u was in row 3 and it just doesn’t hit as much as backwards (I had done St. Louis before this one) was intense but not insane level , the launch to me felt more powerful this way though but everything after that felt a little more mellow and you don’t get the sense of how high you are when going up that spike facing the sky like you do the other way (nerd alert : I think this side was running the Batman train or at least a train from the defunct Batman & Robin the chill at six flags great adventure this one had no rap and was just plane blue but was in good shape and glad they are keeping this thing in good shape) 8.4/10 Backwards/ Reverse Freeze x2 - 🤯, unbelievable … this ride is so unique you get folded over your lap bar on the launch , this ride is so intense the inverted top hat is disorienting then you feel the positives on the over-bank then the spike you see the ground get farer and farer away and the boost is insane then you do it the other way again . These two rides were at about 7:00 ish and maybe it warmed up of it was just because it was dark but it was running insanely fast and intense. Backwards all the way 9.2/10 (felt like it ran faster and smoother and looks nicer than St. Louis gave that one a 9/10) Ops were great at the end of the day btw
Pandemonium x1 - a solid family thrill rollercoaster , spinning was pretty fast was in a balance car with 4 people, this ride looks nice , waited about 35 min , one and done, there was one great airtime pop towards the end 6.4/10
New Texas Giant x3 - RMC got it right on there first try! Waited about 20-30 min for each ride all in the back car (i know , none in front but I’ve never found RMC’s better in the front and I was on limited time) first of these trains are nice and comfy. The still have the seat belt, lap bar, shin guard combo , but the sin guards don’t even touch you and the lap bar is a nice fit compared to the brick bar on the RMC trains lmaoo. Highlight moments are the first drop and the hill before you fly by the side of the station. Not every hill hits like other RMCs there is one or two that don’t have airtime at all but there is a large quantity to make up for that. Got a ride at about 2:30 then two more at 5:30 and RMCs need at least 4 hours to warm up and every element hit hard those last two rides. 9.2/10
Shockwave x1 - Another great classic with 2 super intense loops and some abrupt airtime pops. Slow ops and 1 train turn a 5 min wait into a 20 min one 🤦♀️. Glad this is still going (has been ruined like mindbinder at sfog with shorting the trains) and it’s still pretty smooth especially for its age. 7.2/10
Aquaman power wave x2 - dude this is just a fun ride, (love the double sided lockers) this thing was probably only open 50% of the day and it was off and one but by the end of the day it was on 2 trains and they took 1 off. You don’t get soaked in row 3 but in row 5 I got pretty wet. The air over that backwards hill on the final pass was glorious and the backward spike was awesome and the splash was huge lol as expected, if found my self having way more fun than expected and wanted to go for round 2 hahaha (Sfog should have gotten this instead of the ultra surf) 8/10
Judge Roy scream x1 - average classic wooden coaster. Has a good spot in there line up. But has some rough valleys and little airtime but they was a surprise hill towards the end of the ride. It’s just ok. 5.7/10
The joker x1- After waiting 40 min due to slow ops I was just ready to get on this thing but surprisingly it was a little better than I thought. Crazy first flip of the lift hill then had about 2 more flips then kinda just bobbled around. Was glad it was over might has gotten sick if it kept going 😂. 6.5/10
La eborea x1 - Bro most underrated ride in the park. Was closed from 12:00-7:00 due to rain. Though it wouldn’t open but it did. I thought it would be a chill family coster that might have some bad transition but wow it was insane sliding from side to side flying up the turns over and over again. I was in shock when I hit the breaks it was the most out of control rollercoaster I’ve ever been on. I was laughing when I hit the breaks and couldn’t believe what I experienced! 7.9/10
Overall thoughts on the park felt like I had a six flags day with rides going down constantly, didn’t try the food, employees with no urgency, but some of the areas felt nice (everything not DC comics themed) lots of blacktop. But as the day when on it got better and from what I heard from locals they said that the park was light on crowds and normally these rides with a 30 min wait they said would have a 90min one. Glad I got to spend 8 hours there
Update: Apparently la eborea is done as of 11/9/2024 , so fortunate that I got on it not knowing that it was probably its last night ever open 😭
At a fan event today, management detailed the next few years...
But things get more interesting...
they're aware of the reputation of some older rides, and the SLC could be removed soon
maybe even the Boomerang
the old Zierer Tivoli will not be returning (it was removed to build Tiki Waka, and was going to be rebuilt at another location in the park)
new rides are possible in the open area next to Kondaa
the wooden coaster could get an RMC makeover
These were all talked about in a "we're thinking about it" fashion. No official plans or artwork or anything were shown apart from 2025 additions (new family coaster, restaurant, shop, and a retheme of existing rides) as well as the upcoming Christmas season.
This will probably be the first Gerstlauer Airtime Coaster, a new model which was recently teased at IAAPA Expo Europe. It features 3 LSM launches and a different train design than existing Gerstlauer Family Coasters.
Speed: 65 km/h Length: 925 m
For those who are getting worked up over all these mysterious utility marks, here is a breakdown of the meanings.
Red: electric power lines, cables, conduit and lighting cables
Orange: telecommunication, alarm or signal lines, cables or conduit
Yellow: natural gas, oil, steam, petroleum or other flammable
Green: sewers and drain lines
Blue: potable drinking water
Purple: reclaimed water, irrigation and slurry lines
Pink: temporary survey markings, unknown/unidentified facilities
White: proposed excavation limits or routes
Unless you see white or maybe pink, nothing is being removed. My guess is that it's part of some internal GIS. If you are going to do any future work, you need to have your utilities mapped out. The most likely reason they are outside the rides is due to safety or the possibility of repaving and landscaping.
After being down for the first 4 hours or so (more than likely due to the misting occurring today - as would soon be confirmed) Time Traveler at Silver Dollar City finally opened to the delight of everyone that had been waiting by the entrance, including my girlfriend and I as we had already knocked out the rest of the credits at the park. First ride went fine (this is a great coaster if you weren’t already aware), 2nd ride… got stuck on the 1st launch - came to a very abrupt stop after attempting to launch. An announcement came over the speakers that they were once again shutting the ride down. I thought for sure we were gonna go evac’d when maintenance personnel came up to us (and confirmed the LSMs were being temperamental due to the mist), BUT that they were going to roll us back and try to launch again to get us back to the station instead of unloading us. 2nd attempt was successful!
Sorry for yapping but this is my first unique experience like this on a coaster and I thought I’d share! :)
I preface this by saying I don't agree with how the new Six Flags corporation is potentially quietly removing legacy attractions—but I truly believe this is good for the parks.
As someone who's been to most legacy Cedar Fair and Six Flags parks, it's clear there's a quality divide. Every Six Flags I've visited, except Fiesta Texas, fails to provide a clean, cohesive experience that prioritizes customer satisfaction. These parks have high-maintenance thrill rides (with sporadic operations) that are costly to run. That money could be invested in other areas that parkgoers need to see: food, guest optimization, experience, events, and aesthetics. Such investments improve the experience for guests and families—the main draw for these parks—and can fuel future improvements and attendance. One of the biggest goals set forth in Project Accelerate (from the earnings call) is to get legacy Six Flags attendance back up to 2019 levels. As someone who frankly geeks out more on guest experience than rollercoasters, I'd pick Valleyfair, Worlds of Fun, or Dorney Park over Great Adventure, Great America, or Magic Mountain for guest experience. Why this matters is historically, happier guests fuel more in park spending and return more frequently which is why experience matters.
According to multiple media reports, Kingda Ka allegedly costs a million dollars per year to operate. This money could be better allocated than spending it on a single attraction that's not attracting new guests—it's nearly twenty years old and isn't advertised in local markets—nor generating merchandise sales for a return on investment. Instead, these funds could support newer, more reliable rides while also improving food options and overall guest experience.
What I'm saying is that Six Flags was in financial woes for a reason. If the new leadership sees millions of dollars being spent on attractions that aren't returning on the investment (whether in popularity, guest satisfaction, or reliability), they need to act. We coaster enthusiasts might not agree, but we're not the target audience—we're not the ones funding these parks. There's a reason why only one X2 was ever built in the United States: the investment wasn't returned. Meanwhile, there are now five B&M wing coasters that, while not typically in enthusiasts' top ten lists, do bring in attendance.
Let me use Six Flags Over Texas as an example that has one of the largest markets in the country to attract visitors from. On a peak day just two weeks ago, I waited in line for food (All American Cafe) for over an hour, only to receive a cold slice of pizza in one of the dirtiest restaurants I've ever seen while experiencing low guest satisfaction due to the wait as well as losses in revenue. Now, compare this to venues like Harmony Hall at Carowinds, Lazy Bear Lodge at Canada's Wonderland, and the Grand Pavilion at Cedar Point on similar days. These are designed for high-quality food with optimized throughput, making them real moneymakers for the parks. I'm not claiming the legacy Cedar Fair parks are flawless, but I'm confident these properties are generating much more revenue than the setups at legacy Six Flags parks. A family of four—the target demographic—would much rather have an experience at the legacy Cedar Fair parks. These restaurants are costly in terms of product, staffing, and maintenance, but they see a larger return and greater guest satisfaction. With the larger return on investment, the more opportunities to invest in new experiences and that budget has to come from somewhere, if not from the high maintenance budget.
Whether we agree with it or not, Six Flags is protecting pass sales by not announcing these potential removals. While we have valid reasons to be upset about unannounced removals, these decisions aim to allocate funds for growth—something the legacy Six Flags parks failed to do, leading to their financial troubles. Without changes, the company would continue to struggle and potentially face sale or closure. Legacy Cedar Fair was the healthier company, and compared to Selim's leadership, optimization is crucial for growth and transforming the parks into destination experiences. The new company has no reason to intentionally close rides without a plan, as that would only alienate parkgoers leading to poor business. I believe there's a strategy in motion—let's just hope it pays off. I'm hoping the short-term pain can lead to long-term success for these legacy parks, as they truly are in the best markets in the country.
Just like the title says, they have a new water feature that allows you to get soaked or dry. Though it looks like " Car Wash, The Ride!" I actually think this is cool idea and if it got flushed out with reason and theming could be really fun at a water park! https://youtu.be/ZBzZtoUfWSk?si=LJTQ_2hHtZhBenJt
Is there any roller coaster at SeaWorld Orlando that you think is the best and you think is the worst?
Trademarks filed by Merlin Entertainments, owner of popular UK theme parks such as Alton Towers, Thorpe Park and Chessington seem to suggest a Minecraft themed area is coming to one of their theme parks. The trademark is an image with text "Adventures made real" in a very recognizeable typeface...
From info already known, this is most likely coming to Chessington World of Adventures, as they already have plans for a new area opening in 2026 or 2027, and speculation about Minecraft being the theme of this area is rife amongst UK theme park enthuisasts.
Would you make the trip to the UK to experience such an area?
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I can't remember the name of the ride or even if it really was in Wyoming, but here we go.
In July 2017, I went on this ride at a pop-up fairground that had the normal stuff like Alien Invasion and teacups. But what truly stuck with me was this one ride that blew all others out of the water. It was a simulation ride of a car crash in some race like IndyCar or F1, that you were strapped into with a full shoulder cage and then lifted into the air by a crane-like element. Around you were screens that flashed with images of cars surrounding the raised platform of the ride, and the crane element whipped around with 2 riders, changing height and direction rapidly to approximate whiplash.
Please, if anyone knows the name or if they're still being run, I'd appreciate it!!!
Luckily it’s not the awful test paint that appeared two years ago, it is a fresh coat of the original iconic colors. (I don’t have a photo as it’s from within employee only areas since the only repainted sections are in the helix area.)
Should B&M discontinue there first roller coaster design?