(Post-Edit: This post has been removed by the moderators of r/collapse and r/offgrid and any other subreddits silencing efforts to revolution)

I'm sure there must have been many calls for action and resistance in this sub and others before, but there must be a unified message calling for an united effort of separation to communities reliant solely on food and shelter, focused on principles of frugality and coherence with nature.

The more that stop contributing to the modern machine, the merrier. Be it collective efforts to live off-grid, or other alternative methods of survival, more of us deeply preoccupied with climate and sustainable living must unite to create independent communities that may one day become an example to others worldwide. Be it through eco-villages or other communal efforts, if you are truly concerned, you must do your part. For any in Portugal or abroad willing to contribute, I am willing to accept volunteers or inquiries on our mission, be it that we own a large area of northern countryside willing to be used for survival and promotion of sustainable living, and as I mentioned before, the more the merrier. Thank you for reading.

In multiple countries and all throughout history there will always be citizens that oppose the revolutions their countries are involved in. In countries like America now if a revolution were to happen then people would have to be prepared to fight the government and the people who support the government. Things are also so spread out in countries like America and America itself that not every area would be treated the same. Different rules and ways of doing things would differ between communities and states and without a proper way of communicating between each other they wouldn’t have a way of coordinating anything useful. This could lead to infighting between revolutionary groups causing the whole effort to fail.

Just something I’ve thought about figured I’d post it here

We have handed control of the law over to fascists who are openly hostile to anyone who would take meaningful action against them. These fascists were funded and propped up by tech billionaires who own social media platforms like this one. It is illegal to advocate for violence or lawbreaking of any kind on said social media sites. Ipso facto, any meaningful discussion of revolution and resistance cannot exist online and must happen in person.

Stay here if all you want to do is talk about it. Delete your social media and build community with people around you in real life if you want an actual revolution.

I’m ready to start a group, a community on learning self defense. I’m talking learning how to shoot, fight, survive in the wilderness etc. Trump getting elected again has sparked something in me that I kind of knew was already there. I want to fight for human rights. And I want to start now. Is anyone in New Jersey? I am 19, don’t have a car, but I am VERY serious about starting a group because shit is about to go down. Anything is possible.

I feel like if I continue on a revolution path of a small developing group is likely to wiped off the map. By government or corporate assassins.

How is everyone feeling? About the election and everything?

ETs: It is going to fall apart. One by one. Whoever wins it does not matter because the whole system is going to come down around everyone. There is going to be a rebellion!

Conversations with Extraterrestrials

My reasoning for why they may be right.

Today's political system has a serious problem. Extreme political centralization. Creating a big state like the USA and transferring more and more power to a central government is never in the interest of the common people. This is only done for the benefit of the oligarchs. The main reason is that it makes it easier for them to corrupt and increase their political power at the expense of ordinary people. I will explain this by an example. If an oligarch wants to corrupt a large region and enforce his laws to parasite other people, it suits him if the whole large region is centralized into one big state. He only needs to corrupt one government. But if the region is divided into 1000 small states, he will have 1000 times more work to do and still he will not be able to corrupt all the states. Even if he corrupts some and enforces his harmful law there, he may easily lose that law due to competitive pressure from other states. Oligarchs hate it when a region is divided into many small states. They hate political decentralization. Oligarchs dream of a one world government because then they will have total political power and the common people will have zero political power.

For the situation to begin to improve for the common people, there must be radical political decentralization. The federal government must be completely abolished. The big states too. Laws should be made locally in small communities. This can be done gradually if politicians take power away from the federal government. Abolish federal organizations like the FED, CIA, FBI, NSA, ... But which politicians would be able to do that? If anyone even tries, the deep state and the oligarchs are very likely to kill them. Unless these reforms are made, the situation for the common people will only get worse. More and more laws will be added for the benefit of the oligarchs and to the detriment of the people. They will gradually deprive the people of their freedom, their property and turn the system into a totalitarian dictatorship. The people will find it harder and harder to live in this system. They will have only two choices at the end.

Slavery or rebellion against the federal government and the oligarchs.

(note on rebellion - rebellion does not necessarily have to be violent. It can take the form of a massive boycott and non-cooperation with the central federal government. Not paying taxes, ignoring federal laws, not using federal money, support of secession movements, ...)

I just have a feeling that shits gonna head south very soon and i know people with lots of guns I have never shot one iven never even held one I prefer to but I know it could be critical to survival in the future and I would like to stay alive if shit hits the fan I'm 20yo female I do wreckless things so I also need trained in self defense if there is someone or a community over here please reach out

Can’t think of revolution ideas that work but we can still create change so that we or someone in the future may have hope, opportunities to find or create a systems that works. I realized our generation might be the guide. The hand that leads to a better and advanced world. Like we’re going to have to fight next wars and hardships that coming. We won’t see the fruits of our labor we won’t see the end of the revolution we have the carry the flag to next person that’s our purpose.

So what can we do? I personally want to stop corporations from poisoning people, manipulating and scamming, lobbying. Maybe not destroy all corporations as they do have a use in society but remind them and put them back in their place of being HEALTHY use in society not controlling parts of it. I know it’s easier to just say death to corpo’s but that’s now how things work.

There’s also the corrupt problem in the governments themselves we got to deal with but that’s a whole another beast to tackle. We can probably form an ally faction that deals with that. The point is the corporations has plants in the government which pass laws and help corporations we got to be wary of that. We need to weed them out of government to lessen corporate control. The government revolt/reform faction would do this first.

However for our faction our goal is to lessen power of corporations. So how did we hit them where it hurts? They’re assets that’s all they care about money and influence. We silence them from media and destroy their assets or relocate their assets to smaller competition. Relocating assets to smaller competitors will give us refuge and support. Then you guys asks, ‘are the employees and corpos going to lose their jobs.’ Yeah sure but when we do this new jobs are going to open with smaller businesses and the corporations are going to spend money and hire more people to try and stop us. When they do this we can infiltrate them. This just basics of the plans.

So who will be targeting first? Well we won’t be able to live normal lives doing this so we got to maintain ourselves keep us strong and ahead. So we target FDA and big pharma companies like supermarket and big farmers and butchers that supply them. Big pharmacies and labs that create medicine. To keep us strong and ahead we need to target big tech, media outlets, weapons and computer manfactures, massive servers databases. We might even be able to recruit lower employees from these corporations.

So how do we this? Well we got to burn corpo shit! No to be for real, we can’t have bounties on us, or government intervention, nor can we let corporations convince the public that we’re terrorists or insurgents. If they do they’ll crush before we have enough impact to defend ourselves. So we make it seems like the loss of assets is the corporations own mistakes that caused this, we also make it seem like other corporations is causing each other to lost assets causing infighting and the attention away from us. Spread rumors about many anti work groups and factions that don’t exists. So no one will know this actually a centralized movement. Meaning we’ll also make it seem like we are also infighting but it will be smoke and mirrors until we can have corporations under our control and demands with them not even knowing who exactly is the “enemy…”

I know this sounds crazy but we got stop the world form being this super hellish cyberpunk dystopian. Where we’re treated like subhuman trash and where we’ll be too dumb and sick to fight back by then.

Maybe create a new subreddit called burn corpo shit, anti corpo or a secret code name like NoPoisonFrogOverlords or something.

Thoughts, suggestions and advocates?…

You know, the dumb dumbs persist for all eternity, dumbing around the world. But we also know that they're too dumb to actually survive because there's no way these dumbs could actually do anything useful for the world as they're far too dumb. There must be a controller of the dumb dumbs who rules over the dumb dumbs globally and influences their decisions and behaviors. Trying to understand how people can be as dumb as they are and yet we still find ourselves at this point today really tells you everything you need to know about the world in that there is no way the dumbs could have done all this and yet all that we see is actually pretty stupid. Most people are barely able to wake up and dress themselves in appropriate attire without being shown how to do so at least 1000 times by mass media and friends. Now, I understand that dumb dumbs gotta take a sec to slow down and figure things out, but we all know that the dumbs are incapable of doing that as they simply grab what is shiny and put that on their bodies. Eventually they all end up so jacked in the head that they can't even do that and will start wearing clothes out of the laundry bin and walking around with a fishy stench from all the jizzing they do in order to justify their dumbo way of surviving. Thinking about all this I decided there are two possibilities here and the first is the most terrifying which is simply that a supercomputer rules the world. Now, you might say, is it the Matrix? Not in a strict sense, no, because I do actually believe that this place is physical as in it exists in the energy plane and not in the data plane. That is to say it is a real state and not a representational state of existing. The computer system it turns out, controls people, somehow, feel free to wildly speculate on the nature of this, it could be a chip in the head, nano particles, a worldwide millimeter wave emission system. The technology could be totally unknown or may exists on another plane or dimension. While this is possible, I'd say it's less possible than the second possibility which is chemical control. The brain being a chemical machine is controlled by chemicals, and by virtue of genetic engineering or again, some kind of implant, the chemicals are used to control the behaviors of the people. This option makes good sense for a couple of reasons. First, the chemicals would probably not be experienced the same by all individuals, some may have bad reactions to constantly being doped. This may lead to depression or even insanity as the doping may basically cause brain damage. Second, the doping is strongest when it comes to reproductive urges which makes sense because people will need to reproduce in order to continue existing. Third, the influences of the doping basically serve as a stop light signal for most people to either do something or not do something. The brain may basically restructure itself around dope and expect dope whenever it is faced with a decision which basically means the dope can reinforce certain thoughts and make people do certain things by administering dope whenever they think about something. So, while the all-powerful computer control system is possible, the more logical option is actually doping implants in the brain that control human behavior. Either by genetic engineering or mechanical implant. To put it succinctly, the whole world is on dope, and nobody has a choice in the matter which is why dumb dumbs keep going because they're literally being drugged into continuing to live their pointless lives.

Ok, there is a third possibility and that is that both options are true and the way the computer controls everyone is by controlling when they get their dope. The other option of control being intrusive thoughts or voices that don't seem to originate from within your own mind... (Something some people claim to experience). The thing about intrusive thoughts is that they're literal and literal things can be ignored or fought against, while dope is a reward system which is simply an amorphous pleasure which the human being assumes is natural and naturally wants to continue receiving. I contend that it is not natural nor is it superior. It's simply a way of controlling the behavior of beings too stupid to save themselves on their own.

I recently started creating a podcast series on 'Pedagogy of the Oppressed' by Paulo Freire. It was one of the most revelatory books I have ever read. His analysis of contemporary (published 1968) education being a tool of an oppressive system still rings true today. And his psychology on the minds of both oppressor and oppressed classes alike are truly enlightening. He often writes about revolution and how it can only come from the bottom up and when the oppressed essentially wake up to acknowledge their chains.

Has anyone here read this book and have any thoughts on its take on revolution?

Also here is the podcast series. 12 - Pedagogy of the Oppressed, Session #2

Keep thinking of every possible way to make the world better and it just ain’t possible there are no good solutions. Any revolution is just going to degrade eventually and the system and history will repeat. I think the problem is fundamentally the human. If the human itself does not change the system and history never will. So I’m thinking until human becomes something else (evolve) it’s hopeless. See you in 200 years.

Or for anyone currently violently revolting, here's some easy stuff to make :3 Some are untested prototypes, some are iconic, some I made!

Molotovs: Bottle, gasoline, rag. Light and throw.

Can grenade: Take a can, fill it with gunpowder, put some string in the end, light and throw.

Napalm: Mix nail polish remover and styrofoam, add a flammable liquid such as kerosene or gasoline.

""""Gun"""": Take a pipe, put some material on the back so a bullet can't go through but a nail can, fasten a nail behind the pipe, fasten a handle to the pipe so you don't burn your hand, hit the nail with the hammer, which hits the bullet, which fires.

Spear: Take a hard stick, take a knife, sharpen the stick.

Bow: Take a thin, sturdy stick, tie a string tight to both ends so the stick bends, make sure they don't slide around or loosen, sharpen smaller sticks for arrows

Good luck, but maybe try peaceful protests first?

The rules don't say I can't do this :3

"How to start, survive, and win a peaceful revolution." I have a book written. It is fully realized and radical. Here I share the Steps to really change the world. This is the table of contents, essentially. For the whole book, just ask!

"The revolution must be peaceful, and it must be now. If it is not, then it will be bloody later on, because eventually there will be a revolution."

Steps:

1:	Organization and Communication (plan it out)
2:	Recruitment (find Hackers, Experts, All People)
3: 	Transition (short and sweet)
4: 	Assessment and Delegation (of Labor)
5: 	Work (contribution and benefit)
6: 	Housing (distribute shelter AirBnB style)
7: 	The Expected Unexpected (this will not be easy)
8: 	New Non-Govt (this is the BIG ONE, how it all works)
9: 	Old Govt and the 1% (mercy and tough love)
10: Languages (one language for all? Not English)
11: Global Innovation Competitions (Nerd life)
12: Global Talent Competitions (Starving artists)
13: AI (a friend or foe? How best to use it)
14: Sustainability (harmonize with nature)
15: Masters of Space (the reason for doing this)

I've created some months ago this community:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ItalyRevolution/

It's time to change the state of things in Italy (and other countries too)

Join if you're Italian and you're fuckin tired of Italian politicians who don't understand shit about the reality we live in.

Do you guys have any idea how the election might turn out? Do you think the Diddy situation is going to affect Trump? I know Diddy has a past with politicians and powerful people. What are you guys thinking? I’m just wondering what everyone’s thoughts and opinions were

In the Continuum, the more you try to control the present, the more you will likely ruin your own future. In the new future it still looks like a police state, but with a much more friendly facade. And the rebels who made the ultimate sacrifice are now quiet as lambs. Kagame, appears so well adjusted, perhaps, a little too well adjusted. Alec had him great her when she arrived from the past as a way of gloating over the fact that he figured out how to control him. And when Keira sees her alternate future self, she cries, because she knows that this version of herself is a subservient tool, not because she lost her child. At the very least, in the old reality, she had power to change things, having the suit, and the gun, and the position of authority. In this new reality she is an anachronism. So the moral of the story is what? Basically, the moral is this; give up on the idea of control, and embrace chaos and death.... The final realization is that Alec played Kiera the whole time. This is also a description of the origin of blue. Blue, essentially, represents technology, fully integrated in the human being described therein as the "traveler". So, yes, the system of control equals a blue world (technology controlled), and the system of freedom is a red world (free of control). So, whenever you see that American flag that is all black and white except for one blue stripe... that isn't just "pro police", that is "pro chip in your head that controls everything you do and think".

What is this ideal world, this systems you think can replace current society. We all want change but what exact change will work(Socialism, Communism, democracy, Capitalism etc... or something new entirely)

How would you keep the corruption from coming back and making everything vague and horrible?

The person who turn to the blind side or the person who can change everything ?

Speak up!!