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    WVSOM v Competitive Specialties

    Hello everyone, I was recently admitted to WVSOM and I could not be more excited to get started!!! Literally been in celebration mode since I got the phone call 2 weeks ago šŸ˜­

    That being said, Iā€™m interested in General Surgery as a specialty, and Iā€™m wondering if WVSOM provides the resources to succeed in matching. Looking at their match rates, I see that itā€™s definitely doable, but Iā€™d like to hear from students and DOs who also decided to go this route. This post isnā€™t just geared toward WVSOM students and alum, any information from other students outside of this school network would be super helpful!

    What are some things you had to do to match in GS? Is there anything youā€™d do differently in hindsight? How do I find research opportunities? Etc.

    Also Iā€™m a first gen student so this is all completely new to me. Iā€™m really just trying to figure this out as best I can :)

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    2025/02/02
    02:38 UTC

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    Whatā€™s the best DO school in the Midwest?

    In my personal opinion the top 3 in no particular order is

    1. MSUCOM
    2. DMU COM
    3. KCU COM

    Honorable mentions:

    • OSU COM
    • ATSU-KCOM
    • Midwestern COM

    Best up and coming school in this region is probably ICOM

    Let me know your thoughts below šŸ‘‡

    19 Comments
    2025/02/02
    01:42 UTC

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    Pathology Residency Program COMLEX only

    Hey all! Does anyone know if any pathology residency programs that accept students who only took COMLEX and not STEP? I have been filtering programs in Frieda who have a higher percent DO acceptance but I realized they donā€™t say if they took step or only COMLEX.

    4 Comments
    2025/02/01
    22:07 UTC

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    PNWU interview

    I had an interview at PNWU this week (with low mcat, high gpa). I really love this school. Anyone have an idea of post interview acceptance? Also can any current student share their honest experience.

    Thank you!

    8 Comments
    2025/02/01
    21:33 UTC

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    Thoughts on pursuing an OMM fellowship during med school?

    my school offers a 1 year OMM fellowship between preclinical/and clinical years. they pay for your tuition + give you a stipend. you would basically be an OMM TA for the OMS-I classes, and i was talking with one of the current fellows and she told me it was the best thing she ever did because it gave her more time to study for USMLE/COMLEX as well as time to do research. iā€™m considering a competitive speciality, so would doing this fellowship be beneficial or a waste of time?

    13 Comments
    2025/02/01
    21:16 UTC

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    How was your school's board pass rates for 23/24?

    Apparently a lot of people didn't pass level 1 first time at my school. Seems most did pass second attempt though. Just curious how it has been at other schools.

    10 Comments
    2025/02/01
    20:25 UTC

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    AOBFP Ongoing certification

    Amazing how many minor hurdles there are in this process.

    Seems like I just need to go to my local DO family med conference, where everybody presents to fulfill Category 2 (the 120h of CME, w/ 30 being in person osteopathic CME, and 30 being osteopathic in person or remote, and w/ 15h of that already covered by the Longitudinal assessment)

    But for the Category 3 assessments, I genuinely cannot find the log in for this CATALYST program that NBOME has a whole page devoted to praising, but doesnā€™t link to any kind of log in forā€¦.

    As for Category 4, it sounds like this is similar to in residency, you log in and pay a fee for a ā€œprogramā€ and then read it, compile some data and submit.

    Would love to hear anyone elseā€™s tips on the AOBFP maintaining certification process!

    0 Comments
    2025/02/01
    20:04 UTC

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    * QUESTION FOR ANY CURRENT LMU DCOM STUDENT*

    I recently interviewed at LMU-DCOM and spoke with a current OMS-I at another school who mentioned that he was accepted to DCOM but declined his offer because the school isnā€™t pass/fail and publicly ranks students based on their grades. Can anyone confirm if this is accurate? How does grading and ranking work at DCOM?

    5 Comments
    2025/02/01
    18:43 UTC

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    Has anyone been through the ARCOM MSB program?

    I got in their masters program and I just want someone's experience on it!

    0 Comments
    2025/02/01
    07:33 UTC

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    Has anyone applied both BS/DO and BS/MD at same school like Nova?

    14 Comments
    2025/02/01
    05:16 UTC

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    bsdo program

    i am a high school senior and got conditional acceptance to Marian University's College Of Osteopathic Medicine. are MUCOM's environment, faculty, research opportunities, etc. really good? Does it seem to be a much stronger school in the next 3-4 years? i'm reading that the school is strong as of rn and is hoping to become bigger in the future.

    9 Comments
    2025/02/01
    01:34 UTC

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    Is there a general guide for rising students?

    Title says all. I'm probably going to end up at a DO school and would like to know a general layout of what med school will be like, COMLEX, USMLE, residency applications & how to prepare etc. so many of my friends who are M4s right now tell me that it is a very fast and very action-packed three years of essentially prepping a solid residency application.

    17 Comments
    2025/02/01
    00:48 UTC

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    ARCOM decisions

    I had an interview with ARCOM mid-January and was wondering how long decisions usually take. They said it would take around two weeks but I havenā€™t heard anything back yet. Did it take anyone else this long to hear back from them?

    3 Comments
    2025/01/31
    23:54 UTC

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    Whatā€™s the best DO school in the northeast?

    In my opinion the top 3 in no particular order are

    1. PCOM
    2. NYITCOM
    3. WVSOM

    Honorable mention

    • OU-HCOM
    • Touro
    • UNECOM
    • Rowan

    Up and coming school: Duquesne

    Please argue down šŸ‘‡

    41 Comments
    2025/01/31
    23:54 UTC

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    WCUCOM vs WesternU-COMP vs NSU-KPCOM. Opinions on the DO schools and their Masters programs linking to their schools.

    Title

    5 Comments
    2025/01/31
    22:36 UTC

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    ICOM waitlist

    Does anyone have any insight into being on the waitlist for this school? I just got waitlisted and it was my only interview so far. Iā€™m sad but trying to stay positive.

    I know they didnā€™t fill their class last year, but this is the first year theyā€™re getting federal loans so Iā€™m not sure itā€™s truly representative of this year. Any opinions or insights are appreciated.

    12 Comments
    2025/01/31
    22:00 UTC

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    DMUCOM vs. ACOM

    Recently accepted to both and debating which school I should consider. Both graded and had similar match rates. Seems like ACOM has more organized clinical rotations. However, it seems like the general consensus is DMUCOM due to it being an older school and more well known. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

    4 Comments
    2025/01/31
    18:17 UTC

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    ACOM VS VCOM-auburn

    Iā€™m extremely blessed to have been accepted to both of these programs but need help deciding which is a better fit for me.

    ACOM PROS:

    -Closer to home (1.5hrs) -Affiliated with Southeast health -More established? -Cheap COL -Non-mandatory attendance

    ACOM CONS:

    -Expensive tuition (60k) -I heard lots of professors are leaving -Itā€™s on Dothan Alabama

    VCOM PROS:

    -Affiliated with large university -Cheaper tuition (52k) -Seems more professional (through interview/emails) -Very good match and passing rates

    VCOM CONS:

    -Farther from home (3.5hrs) -Mandatory Attendance -Less established (relatively newer school)

    2 Comments
    2025/01/31
    17:51 UTC

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    changing campus preference

    Hi all, I wanted to seek advice on this thought I have been having. Now more than ever, I have felt the extreme anxiety of not receiving as many interview invites as I had initially hoped šŸ„². Iā€™ve had 1 II in September, which turned into a WL in October. If I were to get off the waitlist and accepted , I would graciously accept; however, the reality is at this point in time, I am getting a bit worried. When I was completing my applications, I will admit I was picky with campus preferences, and I regret this quite a bit now. I wish I would have been more open to consideration at all campuses for schools. My question is, is it too late to email some of these schools and essentially state I would like to be considered for the other campuses as well? Iā€™ve also had quite significant changes in my family life since I applied (parentā€™s divorcing) so with some of the living arrangements that will take place with that, it has made me more open to more areas. If anyone has experience with this , please let me know and please be kind šŸ„²

    5 Comments
    2025/01/31
    16:20 UTC

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    Burrell COM vs LMU DCOM

    I have received As from both schools and would love to hear your thoughts. I was accepted to Burrell NM, and LMU Knoxville. Iā€™ve seen negative opinions about both schools on forums, especially about LMU. My goal is to get into an ortho residency, and from what Iā€™ve seen, both schools have had a similar number of ortho residents in the last three years.

    The main difference I see is that Burrell offers more exposure to Spanish-speaking patients and the opportunity to earn a Spanish anatomy certification, while LMU has been around longer, is not for-profit, and seems to have stronger research opportunities.

    I am originally from Mexico, so would working with Spanish-speaking patients, and obtaining a Spanish anatomy certification make me a more competitive applicant for ortho residencies? Or would it be wiser to go with research opportunities and LMUā€™s longer-established program?

    4 Comments
    2025/01/31
    15:42 UTC

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    KansasCOM vs lmudcom

    Kinda leaning towards kansascom even though it's newer. Am I crazy for picking a new one over a bit more established? Not sure what I want but I don't want to limit myself in case I want something competitive. Both are roughly same tuition

    Kansascom: Pros: P/f

    non mandatory lectures

    Better research opportunities

    Rather be in a city than rural

    Has local affiliations, teaching hospital access

    Lower cost of living

    Cons: New but there are current 3rd years

    Low board rate (apparently the 3rd years weren't given proper resources but they have changed this)

    Lmudcom

    Pros: Has match data

    Cons: Can't do research until spring semester of freshman.

    Graded.

    Mandatory lecture if doing bad (kinda vague).

    Can't participate in research if under 3.0 (this is sounds horrible).

    Rural.

    Heard negatives of lmudcom.

    Few to very low local rotations.

    No teaching hospital access .

    Apparently the highest primary care physician. graduates (nothing wrong with this just want the option if I want something competitive).

    15 Comments
    2025/01/31
    15:41 UTC

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    Is a February interview ā€œlateā€??

    I think Iā€™m just neurotic. But itā€™s February and I donā€™t have any acceptances yet since I just did my first interview a few days ago. I have an interview at KCUCOM in mid-late February and idk it feels like so many people have already gotten accepted or are on waitlists and i just keep thinking Iā€™m screwed bc my interview is so late so even if I donā€™t get accepted and Iā€™m on the waitlist then Iā€™m so far on the waitlist if that makes sense?? Or if seats are filled and Iā€™m just doomed for an R

    8 Comments
    2025/01/31
    04:53 UTC

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    AI Medical Scribes for Osteopathic Practices ā€“ Any Recommendations?

    Hey community!

    As osteopathic physicians, we know how much time and energy goes into patient careā€”especially when it comes to documentation. Between SOAP notes, H&Ps, and discharge summaries, itā€™s easy to feel like weā€™re spending more time typing than treating. Iā€™ve been on the hunt for tools to help streamline this process, and I wanted to share my experience with a few AI scribes Iā€™ve tested recently.

    One of the biggest challenges Iā€™ve faced is finding a tool that can handle the unique needs of osteopathic medicineā€”whether itā€™s capturing OMM details, integrating holistic patient histories, or just keeping up with the pace of clinic life. After trying out a handful of options, I thought Iā€™d share my thoughts and see if anyone else has been down this rabbit hole.

    Hereā€™s a detailed comparison of the tools Iā€™ve tested so far:

    Wavo Health

    Pros:

    • Customizable templates:Ā Perfect for tailoring notes to osteopathic-specific documentation, like OMM treatments or musculoskeletal assessments.
    • Multi-document creation:Ā Handles everything from progress notes to discharge summaries with ease.
    • Copy/paste functionality saves time and reduces clicks.
    • Patient dashboard:Ā Organizes vitals, encounter summaries, and even lets you ask questions about past visitsā€”ideal for follow-ups.
    • Affordable pricing:Ā Great for private practice or smaller groups.
    • Intuitive UI:Ā Clean and easy to navigate, even during busy clinic days.

    Cons:

    • Note processing can take up to a minute, but itā€™s still faster than manual documentation.
    • Still relatively new, so long-term reliability is a slight question mark.

    Freed AI

    Pros:

    • Simple interface:Ā Easy to pick up and use right away.
    • Mobile app:Ā Handy for quick documentation on the go.
    • Adaptive learning:Ā Claims to improve note quality by learning your style over time.

    Cons:

    • Higher price point:Ā More than double the cost of some competitors.
    • Slow processing times:Ā Notes can take over 5 minutes during peak hours.
    • Limited formats:Ā Only offers SOAP notes, which feels restrictive for osteopathic documentation.

    Twofold Health

    Pros:

    • Quick processing:Ā Notes are ready in about 20 seconds on average.
    • Accurate documentation:Ā Handles complex cases well with minimal errors.

    Cons:

    • Basically a copycat of Freed AI:Ā Feels like a rebranded version with fewer features.
    • No patient letter emailing:Ā A drawback for discharge summaries or follow-ups.
    • Younger company:Ā Long-term reliability is still unproven.

    Nabla

    Pros:

    • Simple and lightweight:Ā Easy to use for quick, straightforward notes.

    Cons:

    • Overhyped and underwhelming:Ā Doesnā€™t live up to the buzzā€”notes lack depth and accuracy.
    • Not super effective:Ā Struggles with detailed or osteopathic-specific documentation.
    • Limited customization:Ā Doesnā€™t offer templates or advanced features for specialty-specific needs.

    Heidi Health

    Pros:

    • Custom note templates:Ā Allows for detailed, specialty-specific documentation.
    • ā€œAsk Heidiā€ feature:Ā Helpful for coding and billing questions.
    • Strong security:Ā Focuses heavily on data privacy and compliance.

    Cons:

    • Cluttered interface:Ā Feels overwhelming and not very user-friendly.
    • Not mobile-friendly:Ā A drawback for rounding or on-the-go use.
    • Occasional hallucinations:Ā Sometimes adds clinically irrelevant information to notes.

    Tali

    Pros:

    • Canadian-based:Ā May appeal to some users for regional reasons.

    Cons:

    • Chrome extension setup:Ā Feels clunky compared to dedicated apps.
    • Basic functionality:Ā Doesnā€™t stand out in terms of features or usability.

    Mutuo Health

    Pros:

    • Canadian-based:Ā Another regional option for some users.

    Cons:

    • Clunky interface:Ā Not intuitive or user-friendly.
    • Limited features:Ā Feels underdeveloped compared to competitors.

    Enterprise-Level Options (Abridge, DeepScribe, Suki)

    Pros:

    • Robust EMR integration:Ā Great for large practices or health systems.
    • Advanced features:Ā Powerful tools for high-volume documentation.

    Cons:

    • Overkill for smaller practices:Ā Too expensive and complex for private practice or solo practitioners.
    • Steep learning curve:Ā Requires more time to set up and integrate.

    My Takeaway:
    Right now,Ā Wavo HealthĀ is my top choice. It strikes the perfect balance between functionality, ease of use, and affordabilityā€”and itā€™s been a huge help in reducing my documentation burden.

    As for the others:

    • Freed AIĀ is decent but overpriced and slow.
    • Twofold HealthĀ feels like a knockoff of Freed AI with fewer features.
    • NablaĀ is overhyped and not super effective for detailed documentation.

    . Are there any other AI scribes youā€™d recommend?

    1 Comment
    2025/01/31
    03:15 UTC

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    Reminder: Low MCAT acceptance stories are inspiring, but they are very much the exception.

    This post is for the premeds and applicants that haven't taken their MCAT yet, or are thinking of retaking it:

    I just want to remind everyone that the median MCAT for matriculating DO students is ~505 with an SD of 5 points.

    Please set yourself up for success and do not use inspirational reddit posts as an excuse to slack off while studying for a better score.

    A better MCAT score not only increases your chance of acceptance, but it is correlated with USMLE/COMLEX first-time pass rates. Additionally, the MCAT is a fantastic opportunity to review your basic sciences, especially biochemistry, and enter medical school with a strong foundation.

    Keep studying, keep learning, enjoy the process, and try your hardest to get a 505+.

    29 Comments
    2025/01/31
    02:15 UTC

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    Meritus SOM Dean Quit Before The Inaugural Class Even Started?????

    I am hearing rumors about this and was wondering why she quit before the inaugural class even started??? I don't know it seems very shady/sketchy to me.

    10 Comments
    2025/01/31
    01:12 UTC

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    Nova Post-II acceptance rate

    Anyone know it? I couldnā€™t find any info online.

    In todayā€™s interview groups, I believe they mentioned that they just about ran through their entire WL last year. And interview about 1400 total.

    2 Comments
    2025/01/31
    00:55 UTC

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    Experiences at LUCOM?

    Hello people! recently got an acceptance to lucom and i was wondering if any past or current students can tell me what itā€™s like going there, especially for URM. Thereā€™s almost no black people at the school so iā€™m a little worried about potential discrimination

    6 Comments
    2025/01/30
    23:46 UTC

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    Advice on which medical school to choose from: TOUROCOM Middletown vs NYITCOM Old Westbury vs ATSU SOMA in Arizona?

    I would greatly appreciate some advice on which school you would recommend going to.

    5 Comments
    2025/01/30
    22:25 UTC

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    OSU Tulsa WAITLIST

    Interviewed 12/13 and waitlisted. Iā€™m an OOS applicant and losing hope is there any chance? Also current students- when can I expect to hear back? I already sent an updated application as well, any other advice?

    3 Comments
    2025/01/30
    22:15 UTC

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    Whatā€™s the best DO school in the Southeast?

    In my personal opinion the top 3 in no particular order are

    1. VCOM Auburn
    2. ACOM
    3. CUSOM

    Honorable mention:

    • NYITCOM Arkansas
    • LECOM Bradenton
    • WCU

    Up and coming school has to be BUCOM

    Please share thoughts down below.

    14 Comments
    2025/01/30
    21:58 UTC

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