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Tweet from Eric Bailey: “According to @PlankShow on OU radio, Xavier Robinson is getting his left side worked on (hip/thigh area). Sam Franklin is getting loose on the sideline.”
Tweet from Brandon Drumm: “Zion Kearney needing helped off the field after the game. Another WR injury.
That 2024 season in a nutshell for #Sooners.”
Now that the regular game season is over what is next for OU what changes are we gonna see in the next year?
We have Farooq and Stutsman gone, Nic Anderson didnt touch the field this season, and we fired our OL coach mid season.
Both of our Quarterbacks are absolute Dog shit we had more sacks fumbles and interceptions this year than the last 10 years combined almost
The only thing we have good is our Defense which is why we are leading the SEC in Defensive TDs and are 3rd in the country with a wopping 4 Defensive TDs
So does Venables get the Boot? Is JJF our new OL coach permanently?
I wanna know what everyone thinks about how our season ended vs how it started and what we can do to bring back the magic for next year.
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What’s our thoughts on where we land for a bowl game?
I just find it hard to believe that these refs have not thrown one flag on LSU's o-line. The amount of holding that line is doing is ridiculous.
Let’s hear them!
OU 38-28
Suddenly I’m a huge fan of Buster Faulkner to Oklahoma. How much would it cost for Faulkner, King, Haynes, the TE and the offense?
Joke aside, watching this offense I can see Oklahomas roster being effective in this offense especially with JA. I really like the play style especially in the run game. I think it would compliment BVs defense by controlling the clock. BV mentioned he wanted someone that was also efficient specifically in the red zone and 3rd downs. I admit I haven’t watched a lot of GT but they are effective in those areas tonight.
Personally, I’m not too high on really any of the options. There isn’t a clear LR caliber play caller.
Arbuckle is probably the closest as his offense might be most similar to LR. However, I don’t feel like air raid is Oklahomas style and I don’t think it compliments the defense. I do like that Arbuckle has incorporated the run game the last few games I’ve watched. BV definitely likes the more physical and controlled style offense like the Alabama game. Though I’m sure he’d rather have more of a pass game than that.
Craddock definitely checks all the boxes that BV was talking about and he has connections to Clemson and all that but I feel like his time at Arkansas with Morris is a red flag. How much of that was Morris I have no idea but my friend was a punter in those years and isn’t much of a fan. I’m sure BV and staff know a lot more than anyone’s “buddy” though.
So far I’m skeptical about the top two talked about candidates.
While buster may not have the OC resume that the others do, I am intrigued by the QC/analyst the last few seasons at Georgia while they ran the SEC and won a couple nattys. He may not have been calling the plays necessarily but this season at GT has shown he learned something during that time. I also feel like JA would fit in this offense giving him a redemption arc in his story at OU. (I haven’t given up and maybe that discredits anything I’ve said so far). This could also come with the QB from Deer Creek that would replace Kevin Sperry which would give JA the opportunity to stay and not feel like he’s being replaced if another transfer comes in.
I know Bell and Spavital have also been mentioned. I haven’t watching Baylor or Pitt this year and admit I don’t know much about either of them. I also don’t feel like I need to talk about why Kevin Wilson wouldn’t be the best idea and honestly kind of a let down.
What do you guys think? Feel free to correct anything I said and please add your thoughts.
Who are we getting in Norman?! Happy holidays.
Curious if anyone has ever been to a game in Baton Rouge. Plan on leaving Friday morning!
That was a very important and very much needed win and I'm not going to take anything away from those kids who went out there and earned it. However it doesn't just undo the shitshow that has been this season and people don't get a pass because we upset a team for once. We're celebrating like the schools we made fun of in the Big 12 for when they'd upset us.
Brent Venables still is on the hot seat and still has to nail this OC hire or he's fired. Doesn't matter what kind of dumb shit you hear from insider or media personalities. And even if we win out 8-5 at Oklahoma is just unacceptable. Bob Stoops had to fire our national championship winning QB turned OC who was/is married to David Boren's daughter because of an 8-5 season and had Lincoln Riley not worked out there would have been real talks about firing Bob Stoops. This is not Kansas or Texas Tech or whoever. This is a blue blood program where football is king and this season has been unacceptable.
Also Brent has to answer for a lot of things after this season. He has to answer for why his assistants haven't had to speak to the media at all. There are questions that have needed to be asked for almost all of those offensive assistants that aren't going to be and that's a problem.
And quite frankly the Alabama game is almost damming in a really bad way too. I have been begging and screaming for them to throw out EPL all season and they finally do and he looks.... almost better than Febichi immediately against Alabama who has some decent inside tackles. Like it's a fucking problem that I've known that every single underclassman is better than the guys we threw out there all season and somehow BB didn't. And I'm going off shit I heard second hand from people twice removed from the practices. And it's not even like I think BB is this awful coach. If you have talent BB will get it out of you. The problem is he loves playing kids who aren't Tulsa good let alone OU good. And if we keep BB, is he going to do this shit again? Continue to take really shitty portal upperclassman and waste years of development on the younger guys for it? You guys probably think I'm an asshole but remember when I said back against Houston that we should have gone with Howland, Ozaeta, Brooks, EPL, and literally anyone else other than Brown at RT and give that OL some scrubs to play against to get their feet wet? Howland and Ozaeta of course didn't come out looking like superstars but that's expected. But they got better week in and week out and had they played the entire season there's a chance we'd have an extra win or two at a minimum. And that falls squarely on BB's head and Brent Venables too.
And of course we have to talk about the running back room. You guys know I've been out on DeMarco for a couple years now. I think he's a great recruiter but he's a fucking shit coach. I'm not gonna say anymore out of respect for his legacy at our school but every thing I've said in the past with him continues to get worse. Just go look at Tawee's statements about how confusing it is to play with for him because he throws darts at a dart board on who starts game to game and who gets reps in practice. And they fucked up Xavier's redshirt in a way that makes absolutely zero sense. Like that is total mismanagement on a level that means you shouldn't be coaching at the collegiate level. And that is also on BV.
Also it is fucking infuriating the response to the gameplan against Alabama. It was not a good gameplan because it literally is the only one we should have had. I've been screaming since we lost Burks we had to become a power running team because our QBs are broken mentally, we have zero healthy receivers, and we're being forced to play (otherwise BB wouldn't even dare throw them out) young OL since the fucking Tulane game. You have a great defense so how do you protect them? You run the ball and control clock. You have zero receivers and a young QB with the yips how do you protect him? You run the ball and control clock. You have young OL who need to develop so how do you do that? You run the ball. Like this isn't rocket science. This is literally fucking football 101. This is shit they teach you in middle school man. Why did it take us until game fucking 11 to figure that out? How did BV not go to JJF and make him do that after they fired Seth?
I know this is a rant but it's one our entire fucking fan base needs to hear. And I'm not even out on BV and want him fired right now. I'm about as neutral as you can be on him at this point. But this constant glazing and oopsie poopsie we beat Bama so everything is magically fixed means nothing. We are fucking Oklahoma. One win or loss does not define a season for us. The god damn season defines us. Do not let anyone tell you this is acceptable. Under any circumstances. Every single person related to OU football needs to be on the hot seat and stay there until they prove otherwise. And one game doesn't absolve them and prove they're the right fit.
Honestly, my thoughts are all over the place on who it could be; Kevin Wilson, Arbuckle, Craddock or a dark horse. I’m happy that Dan Mullen is not in consider as the Florida experience ended poorly. Boomer Sooner and Happy Thanksgiving! Beat LSU!
Assuming Jackson keep getting better then he will stay the starter. Does Hawkins stick around and probably only get 1 year to start or go somewhere else and get 3 years of starting?
Many of you saw and reacted to my post about a possible Dan Mullen offense with the sentiment that I should look at what has now become the more likely candidate- Ben Arbuckle. In 3 seasons as an OC or Co-OC, Arbuckle has turned heads for the amount of success that he has had on his side of the ball on middling to bad Western Kentucky and Washington State teams, and his meteoric rise through the ranks of college football.
In 2023, his Wazzou team went 5-7 in the PAC-12 (RIP). In these games, the offense averaged 31.7 PPG, 421.7 YPG, and was 38th in the nation. The 5-7 record here is a little deceiving, because losses to UCLA (by 7) and Washington (by 3) could have been prevented without 2 INT's on the part of Cam Ward. Additionally, the offense put up 27 points in a loss against Arizona St, and 39 points in a loss to Cal. Both of those losses could have been prevented with a better defense.
In 2024, Wazzou currently has a record of 8-3, and has been averaging 38.8 PPG. This puts them as 7th in all of college football, and their QB is currently leading CFB in the most TD's responsible for with 42. Their worst performance so far has been against Boise St, where they scored 24 points and put up 416 yards of total offense. I firmly believe all 3 of their losses this season could have been prevented with a better defense. The offense has averaged 32.5 PPG in these losses, and two of them came by only 3 points. The Wazzou defense gave up over 400 yards in each of those games, and over 500 in their loss to New Mexico. The Wazzou defense has allowed 300+ yards on defense in every game this year, and 400+ in 8 of their 11 games. The OU defense has only given up 400+ yards on defense twice this year, those being 405 yards to Texas and 482 to Auburn.
The common trend for both of Arbuckle's seasons at Wazzou is that his team's record is being held back by poor defense, rather than the offense.
Ben Arbuckle's average offense in his 3 years as an OC or Co-OC is as follows: 35.63 PPG, 457.83 YPG, average 20th in CFB.
If we apply this average to Oklahoma this season, our losses to Tennessee (-10), Ole Miss (-12), and Mizzou (-7) are all likely wins immediately. Additionally, our loss to South Carolina would likely change to a win, due to most of South Carolina's points in that game coming from our offensive turnovers. The loss to Texas would also be debatable, given that our offense would hold the ball longer and therefore limit Texas' possessions and give our defense a longer break.
After applying these changes, OU would currently be sitting at a 10-1 or possibly even an undefeated record- and would be either 1st or 2nd in the SEC (depending on the Texas game). We would be a guaranteed lock to get into the SEC championship due to beating Ole Miss and Alabama, both the teams Georgia lost to. The SEC championship would either be OU vs TA&M or a Red River rematch, based on which of those teams wins their head-to-head this coming weekend.
Now to address the elephant in the room- this analysis should be taken with a couple boulder-sized grains of salt. The game is not played on paper, and Arbuckle's offense hasn't played a single SEC team. I am simply comparing offensive averages from his offenses to our games this year. That doesn't take into account mentality (which is why we won this last weekend), recruits, injuries, etc.
Tl;DR: A Ben Arbuckle offense should be an exciting prospect for OU, and if it translates into the SEC well, we could expect greatness from the team in coming years. His team's current record is being held back by a lack of defense, and ours is being held back by a lack of offense. If the two were together this year, OU would have a strong case for the SEC Championship game, a guaranteed playoff spot, and possibly even a National Title.
Boomer!
The general consensus from fans, myself included, when he lost the starting job was that he would portal out after the season. Personally I'd like to see him next year with a (hopefully) healthy WR corps and a (hopefully) competent offensive coaching staff. I still believe he has the potential to be a solid dual threat QB with the right leadership and personnel
Insanity.
What was that and how do I get one?
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I’m so proud of the fight this team has shown tonight. After a gut-wrenching loss last week, it was easy to see Alabama and LSU up next and expect to be blown out. I’m so proud of the effort from everyone. Boomer sooner!
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Looking more and more likely it's gonna be Arbuckle as our new OC, what do you guys think? Young guy, has done really impressive things with Washington state. Think he can turn this offense around?
With senior night today, this post from OU's Twitter made me start thinking about potential Replacements for what's been a very strong senior class.
At QB, we lose Casey Thompson. I imagine he moves into a coaching role. Aside from that, it's hard to know how much he contributed in the film room and on a 1 to 1 level with our young QBs. I imagine one of our two starters this year transfers. It remains to be seen what thus room will look like come summer camp.
At WR, we lose Jalil Farooq. A solid no. 2 WR who we missed dearly this year. Hopefully guys like Pettaway, Jordan, and others step into larger roles.
At TE, we lose Jake Roberts. Nothing of value lost here. I hope Davon Mitchell can be ready after reclassifying into this year's class.
At OL, we lose Branson Hickman, we haven't seen much of him in his lone year here, but he was our projected starter. Hopefully Everett and Bates can stay healthy and make some much-needed progress. At OL, we lose Michael Tarquin. His loss was devastating for the line. Hopefully guys like Howland, Taylor, and Sexton are able to stay healthy and progress over the next several months. Also at OL, we lose Spencer Brown, not a loss. Maybe Bedenbaugh or the new OL coach will rotate Autry into the lineup.
At CB, we lose Dez Malone. Uneven CB play plagued us, but he has had his moments. I feel like Eli Bowen is ready to take the next step.
At DE, we lose Ethan Downs and Caidan Woullard. Downs is a solid, if unspectacular starter. I'd love if PJ can replace him in the rotation. Woullard is a decent rational piece, hopefully a young guy like Nigel Smith II can step into his role.
At IDL, Davon Sears and Da'Jon Terry gave both been key rotational pieces. Their experience has Clearly helped Jackson and Stone who I believe are the future at IDL along with Halton.
At LB, we lose Danny Stutsman. A big loss for both his play, leadership, and organization of the defense. I feel confident in guys like Lewis, Carter, McKenzie among others to keep our LB unit strong.
At safety, we lose Billy Bowman Jr. I like Robert Spears-Jennings and Peyton Bowen as just a couple of guys who could step into his shoes next year.
At kicker, we lose the combined steady presence of Tyler Keltner and a resurgent Zach Schmit. Hopefully someone like Liam Evans can take the reigns as a redshirt freshman.
At punter, we lose one of our best players in Luke Elzinga. We also lose Josh Plaster. Not sure who's next up, but Elzinga is a big loss.