NEW for 2021!

English/POJ/KIP Halloween Se-iûⁿ kúi-á-cheh Se-iûnn kuí-á-tseh

Pumpkin Kim-koe Kim-kue

Bat Iā-pô

Ghost Mô͘-sîn-á Môo-sîn-á

Vampire Suh-hoeh-kúi Suh-hueh-kuí

Haunted house Kúi-á-chhù Kuí-á-tshù

If you would like to learn Taiwanese, I recommend the fan page I mentioned above. The fan page provided both the KIP version and the POJ version for anyone who wants to learn Taiwanese Taigi(Tâi-gí).

Come across this link. It looks like provided by Ministry of Education (Taiwan). It collects 7 books that help people learn Taiwanese, including pronunciation, vocabularies, phrases, and articles.

Learning Taiwanese in a college class and have an assignment to do a 10 question interview with a native / fluent Taiwanese speaker that's typed in romanized Taiwanese. This is an introductory Taiwanese class so the questions will be very simple. We can do it over DM on Reddit if anyone is willing to help :) thank you!!!!

I heard this phrase in an elevator in Taiwan, where it said "開門中 (Kai men zhong), followed by its translation in taiwanese, which sounded like "kui men dyoh" or something, but I can't find the romanization for it. It means the door is opening IIRC.

Say if I list the zhuyin/pinyin table of all the possible sounds, can I make a conversion table for Taiwanese pronunciation with this?

If I remember correctly, not all the homophones of Mandarin words are pronounced the same in Taiwanese, but are they close enough for me to make a table and memorize in my head so I have something to start with?

Studying Formosa language, Tâigír, and history online . Let me know if you are interested in.

Hi all,

I'm wondering if anyone can help me translate a name into Hokkien. For some background, my mom was Singaporean Chinese and recently passed away. This has gotten me thinking that I never had a Chinese name from her or my grandma. My aunt has been trying to help me come up with one, but between the two of us we only know bits and pieces between Mandarin, Hokkien, and Cantonese. She came up with 明霞, which would be "ming xia" in Mandarin. I'm wondering if anyone could give me the Hokkien pronunciation of those characters? And tell me if that would be a reasonable name in Hokkien? Or if anyone knows of a Hokkien dictionary, but I've been having trouble finding one.

Thanks so much!

A khái chi siaⁿ tiān-tâi 阿愷之聲 podcast - https://www.youtube.com/@VoiceofAKai/videos

Tī bāng-lō͘ luā-luā-sô ê sî-chūn khòaⁿ-tio̍h Tâi-gí tiān-tâi ê kài-siāu. Chú-chhî-jîn sī Lo̍k-káng lâng, lâi-pin ū chhiáⁿ-tio̍h chhiūⁿ Tâi-oân pún-thó͘ chok-ka Ngô͘ Sēng (吳晟). ū-hèng-chhù ê ē-sái thiaⁿ khòaⁿ-māi.

Lo̍k-káng's pronunciation is interesting, which is very different from that in other places in Taiwan. Here in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPytrSneeKQ

ka lian (鉸攆): ka-to , scissor

thong-kuî-á (通懷仔): lak-tē-á, pocket

kan/kah-niauh (交落): lak-khì, lose

It looks like PTS having a channel Day Day 台語台 for publishing some Taiwanese speaking programs. It contains the subtitle for audiences.

Hey guys! Could you help me to understand how to use the corpora? I use the 國家教育研究院的臺灣台語語料庫應用檢索系統 which is quite intuitive. However, I have also seen that 中正大學 （ http://lngproc.ccu.edu.tw/SouthernMinCorpus/） has one, and i don't understand how to use it lol. I have also seen this website, but i also don't know how to use it lol: https://github.com/Taiwanese-Corpus/hue7jip8

What corpus to you guys use? Any researcher that could help me? Any tips?

It's been a while since I actively studied 台語 and it seems that a couple of the online dictionaries I used previously are no longer accessible.

A site I can still access is : https://www.moedict.tw/, which I believe took its entries and pronunciations from the Ministry of Education site. As far as I am aware this is a pretty reliable resource, although it seems to have problems with its search facility.

I think the MOE site has been revamped since I used it and is available at https://sutian.moe.edu.tw/zh-hant/ .

Taiwanese friends have always sworn by https://itaigi.tw, but I don't think it can be searched by pronunciation.

I do have a couple of physical dictionaries but are there any other online dictionaries that you would recommend?

Hello all, I have just arrived in Taiwan and decided to learn Taigi! However, I have been a little disappointed by the lack of resources like a a table of initials and finals for pronounciation, such as [this one for Mandarin](https://chinese.yabla.com/chinese-pinyin-chart.php). I found this to be a wonderful resource when learning Mandarin, and I think it would be a useful resource. As far as I can work out, this doesn't exist for Taigi, so I have decided to create one myself, but since I am so new to Taigi, I want to get some feedback and criticism from this community for the plan of action here. Alternatively, if this already exists and I'm just not able to find it, I would like to know before spending too mush time on it!

Step 1 - Preperation

Using this Taiwanese government pronounciation table as a basis, a table will be created using a semantic example of each syllable with each tone. At this stage, the table will also be converted so that we have a POJ and Zhuyin version, as well as the original KOP version. Each syllable will be pronounced by a native speaker (or a computer, seeing how Meta is able to create a realistic voice now). This one doesn't need to be pretty, it just needs to act as the nucleus for step 2.

Step 2 - Colecting Data

Seeing as I currently live in Taiwan, I will advertise around the town and online for native speaking volunteers willing to help preserve Taigi. Identity data (name, age, variety of Taigi) will be collected and they will be recorded, either remotely or in a recording studio, saying each of these syllables. Since Taiji is mainly a spoken language, the romanisation and Zhuyin might act as clues to the volunteers of which syllable we're looking for, but the Chinese character and original recording will be the fallback for many syllables.

Step 3 - Compiling Data

After having a number of people who have recorded, this data will have to be compiled into a meaningful and useful format. I intend to follow the guide of the [Yabla Pinyin chart](https://chinese.yabla.com/chinese-pinyin-chart.php) mentioned above, and create a website with the table, with each syllable that can be clicked and have the different tones displayed and an example played. This website would also have settings to switch the romanisation system of the table and to filter pronounciations based on age, gender and Taigi variety.

Step 4 - Further Projects

With the original project completed, there are further aspects to the project that could be completed. These are much more speculative but can all be built from the same basic concept. A few are listed below:

Tone Pairs: The next obvious step is a tone pair training table, again modelled on the [Yabla Tone Pair website](https://chinese.yabla.com/chinese-tones-learn-the-right-way-with-tone-pairs.php), which, taking into account the extent of tone-changing in Taigi words, would be a massive boon to the Taigi learner.

Regional Variants: I am planning to base the first table on the Taizhong variety (since that is where I am currently based and its what the Mary Knoll textbooks, and therefore a large number of learners, are introduced to) but there is obviously regional variation among Taigi and Hokkien more generally. The table would need to be reworked to account for the different sounds among different variants of the language.

Tone Training: This original data can be used to create a programme (again inspired by [this Yabla website](https://chinese.yabla.com/tone-pair-practice.php), among others) to help learners to practice listening and pronounciation of tones and tone pairs.

Challenges

This project, written out here, may seem simple, but there are a few challenges I envision, as well as more challenges I can't envision. The ones that spring to mind are:

Regional Variations:Taigi may be more diverse than I imagine, and trying to create a standardised table might be trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

Finding Volunteers: Currently living in Taizhong and having connections with a number of universities here, I imagine that finding volunteers shouldn't be too difficult. Access to decent recording could also hopefully be found through AV societies at those universities. However, with the sheer volume of syllables (and especiall tone pairs) in Taigi, it may be a a tall order to find people willing to do this.

Personal Lack of Knowledge:It is not lost on me that there are many challenges that I am not able to see right now, considering I am just beginning on my Taigi journey. This is fertile ground for silly but fundemental mistakes.

Conclusion

Seeing it written here, this by no means seems like an insurmountable project. Right now I am just starting out and would appreciate feedback on this game plan. For those more familiar with Taigi, if anyone is willing to support or get involved with this project, I would appreciate the double check at earlier stages of the process. I look forward to hearing what the commnity has to say!

TLDR: I want to create a table of Taigi pronounciation, help me by telling me if I'm being dumb?

「chhâ-pê」 sī iōng-lâi hêng-iông kó͘-chá sî-tāi cha-bó͘ lâng thâu-mô͘ pa̍k khí--lâi ê hit ki.

https://chhoe.taigi.info/search?method=basic&searchMethod=equals&spellingMethod=PojInput&taibun=%E6%9F%B4%E8%80%99

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my5IKGsiin8&t=3m4s

Hello, everyone. Earlier this year, I noticed that u/aiong has been absent from Reddit for several years now, so I requested moderation of this subreddit. Forgive me for not introducing myself sooner, but this is my first subreddit, so I am learning about the process from scratch. I am from a mostly-Hoklo family, but I do not speak Tâi-gí myself, so I am trying to teach myself as I go along with honoring my own heritage.

In general, what questions, concerns, and comments does everyone here have? And would anyone like to nominate themselves for consideration as additional moderators? My primary concern which motivated me to gain moderator privileges was to remain vigilant for spam, which thankfully this subreddit has seen little of. Also, any takes on whether we should join if there is ever another subreddit blackout to protest bad administration policies?

Assuming you already know zhuyin, could you just rely on that to pronounce words? After all, I've seen that method in textbooks in Taiwan. Or is it a must to learn a romanization method in order to have the most precise pronunciation?

Currently when I try to speak Taiwanese, my brain would think of a Chinese sentence and then construct it word by word in Taiwanese and then speak it out. I know it's not the ideal because there are grammar differences between the 2, but it's probably the easiest way for me right now. My vocabulary in Taiwanese is still very limited, and a Taiwanese text to speech narrator would help me expand my current limit. Does such a thing exist?

Stepping away from the tai-lô/pe̍h-ōe-jī vs. characters debate for a moment—why are all the adaptations of Hanzi to TSM so poor? The MOE-recommended characters often use the same character for different readings and have questionable etymologies. I understand that adapting Hanzi to TSM is challenging, but it seems like all the systems I've seen are much worse than those for Cantonese. Why do you think that’s the case? Is there any hope for 台字? Do you have any suggestions?

I feel like a first step could be to differentiate characters with different readings. For example, in "ha̍k-sing" and "o̍h tâi-gí," the first 學 as a verb could be written with a 口 or a 言 radical. A cohesive system could make its implementation easier. What’s your take? (Again, I know there are many advocates of pe̍h-ōe-jī, but that’s not the topic here—imagine a society like Hong Kong where the vernacular language is written in TSM).

Young people don’t pronounce g- before i and u at all anymore?

I was watching one of the interviews with Yokita 老師 on YouTube where he talks about common Mandarin mispronunciation in Taigi, and he covered one of my personal problems. I pronounce it as

ㄨㄚ vs góa

(basically the exact issue he mentioned)

Are there videos or tips for generating the sound properly? If it helps, my L1 (+accents) are Mandarin (Taiwanese) and American English (Northern California/San Francisco area).

I'm able to distinguish the difference with my ear as a child of native speakers if spoken side by side (as done in the video referenced above), but probably not in isolation.

Also, what are the other forums that folks are using these days for Taigi? The links in the sidebar are a bit dead.

In Mandarin, there is a distinction between 吓 and 怕， one is the verb of scaring, the other is the verb of being scared. Is there a similar distinction in Hokkien? It seems that both verbs can be used by 驚

Hi,

I am wondering if there's any website or app or anything which has text to speech for hokkien? reading from mandarin.

hôe chhiú-ki á

kā lí hiah ê pùn-sò póe khì piⁿ-á

lí thó͘ kha sī bē hiáu lù hō͘ chheng-khì ó͘

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cM22Fg4Qwg