He plays for a bad organization with little support around him. More importantly, poor coaching.

I want to ask you a question. How good do you think Trevor Lawrence would be for the Chiefs or the Niners? And if you think he would excel, then consider the relative lack of coaching talent around the league, and the good coaches that do exist reliably churn out productive talent. Conversely, the bad organization anually churn out underachieving teams.

I lived through the Alex Smith era in San Francisco. He was not a bad QB. At times, he was brilliant even. When Harbaugh came, he finally played well, and when he went to Andy Reid in KC, he played well there too. The common factor is that these good coaches were able to use their talent, while the dummy coaches before them could not, and the talent around him was lacking, which is in part an organizational problem.

1. Lamar Jackson 118-176, 1529 yds, 10-2 TD-INT, 403 yds rushing, 2 TDs

2. Joe Burrow 125-173, 1370 yds, 12-2 TD-INT

3. Josh Allen 98-156, 1160 yds, 10-0 TD-INT, 178 yds rushing, 3 TDs

4. Baker Mayfield 134-189, 1489 yds, 15-5 TD-INT, 136 yds rushing, 2 TDs

5. Jayden Daniels 125-166, 1404 yds, 6-2 TD-INT, 322 yds rushing, 4 TDs

6. C.J Stroud 142-208, 1577 yds, 10-4 TD-INT

7. Brock Purdy 121-185, 1629 yds, 9-4 TD- INT, 126 yds rushing, 0 TDs

8. Sam Darnold 87-137, 1111 yds, 11-4 TD-INT

9. Jared Goff 106-149, 1330 yds, 8-4 TD-INT

10. Patrick Mahomes 111-160, 1235 yds, 6-6 TD-INT

11. Kyler Murray 116-170, 1186 yds, 8-2 TD-INT, 261 yds rushing, 1 TD

12. Justin Herbert 64-80, 815 yds, 6-1 TD-INT

13. Jordan Love 86-146, 1131 yds, 12-6 TD-INT

14. Matt Stafford 118-175, 1238 yds, 3-3 TD-INT

15. Kirk Cousins 138-207, 1598 yds, 9-5 TD-INT

16. Caleb Williams 130-199, 1317 yds, 9-5 TD-INT, 169 yds rushing, 0 TDs

17. Justin Fields 106-160, 1106 yds, 5-1 TD-INT, 231 yds rushing, 5 TDs

18. Dak Prescott 142-224, 1602 yds, 8-6 TD-INT

19. Jalen Hurts 106-157, 1194 yds, 6-4 TD-INT, 196 yds rushing, 2 TDs

20. Aaron Rodgers 111-182, 1,093 yds, 7-4 TD-INT

21. Geno Smith 173-251, 1778 yds, 6-6 TD-INT, 146 yds rushing, 1 TD

22. Joe Flacco 71-108, 716 yds, 7-1 TD-INT

23. Daniel Jones 114-178, 1138 yds, 6-3 TD-INT, 108 yds rushing, 0 TDs

24. Trevor Lawrence 116-191, 1334 yds, 8-3 TD-INT

25. Bo Nix 121-198, 1082 yds, 5-5 TD-INT, 180 yds rushing, 3 TDs

26. Drake Maye 24-41, 265 yds, 3-2 TD-INT

27. Andy Dalton 66-95, 896 yds, 7-4 TD-INT

28. Spencer Rattler (only one game)

29. Aiden O'Connell 46-72, 403 yds, 2-2 TD-INT

30. Deshaun Watson 122-199, 1020 yds, 5-3 TD-INT, 148 yds rushing, 1 TD, 27 sexual assaults & counting

31. Will Levis 83-125, 699 yds, 5-7 TD-INT

32. Tyler Huntley 32-55, 290 yds, 0-1 TD-INT

I made a bet with few of family members about my fav WRs going 1000 yards this season.

Khalil Shakir Mike Evans DJ Moore DK Metcalf Scary Terry Garret Wilson What do you guys thinks so far?

32. Titans 0-3

33. Jaguars 0-3

34. Browns 1-2

35. Panthers 1-2

36. Patriots 1-2

37. Dolphins 1-2

38. Bengals 0-3

39. Colts 1-2

40. Broncos 1-2

41. Raiders 1-2

42. Giants 1-2

43. Bears 1-2

44. Rams 1-2

45. Cardinals 1-2

46. Cowboys 1-2

47. Falcons 1-2

48. Commanders 2-1 (Best W, @ Cincinnati)

49. Chargers 2-1 (Best W, Las Vegas)

50. Ravens 1-2

51. Jets 2-1 (Best W, New England)

52. 49ers 1-2

53. Buccaneers 2-1 (Best W, @ Detroit)

54. Packers 2-1 (Best W, Indianapolis)

55. Seahawks 3-0 (Best W, Patriots in OT)

56. Saints 2-1 (Best W, @ Dallas)

57. Texans 2-1 (Best W, Indianapolis)

58. Eagles 2-1 (Best W, @ New Orleans)

59. Lions 2-1 (Best W, @ Arizona)

60. Steelers 3-0 (Best W, @ Atlanta)

61. Vikings 3-0 (Best W, 49ers)

62. Chiefs 3-0 (Best W, Baltimore)

63. Bills 3-0 (Best W, @Miami)

Tell me where I'm wrong

If Patrick Mahomes manages to pull off a three-peat in the Super Bowl, would that solidify his place as the greatest of all time (GOAT) in the NFL? His talent and accomplishments are already impressive, but would this historic achievement be enough to crown him as the GOAT, or does he still have more to prove?

Let's hear your thoughts!

Me and my friend always argue who is better I say Marino because of the impact on the sport but he always says rivers based on stats what do y'all think of this?

Ever since the NFL expanded its season to 17 games a year, we know that all teams no longer have the even amount of 8-8 home and away games. Some teams now have eight home games and nine away games. Others vice versa.

Does the NFL do anything specific to make sure this format doesn't give some teams an unfair advantage over others? Doesn't seem like it's ever mentioned that some teams have to travel a little more than others.

If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit.

Definitely click baited you all with title but that's literally the thought I just had.. I know right.. I was looking up all time leader stats right now he had 43,653 is in the top 20 off all time.. assuming hes playing a few more seasons.. let's say 4 and he averages 3k a season that would put him at 55,653... hypothetically... And he's only 32 tds away from top 10 all time. He's also going to end up 1st or second all time rushing yds for a QB(until Lamar passes him) and 4 rush tds away from top 10 all time.

My whole point is I never looked at Wilson as a great QB but the stats say otherwise. I still think he's trash but yeah what y'all think?

There's plenty of discussion about the best Superbowl winning teams. I'm curious about the best teams that didn't win a Superbowl. Like the Steve McNair Titans that was a yard short. Or possibly Marino's Dolphins.

1. Ravens secondary is suspect and Andy Reid will target that

2. Chiefs defense is much better than Houston's and Lamar won't be able to run as much. Even if he does, he won't have much going passing wise because of point #1.

And my favorite is point 3.

3. NFL wants Chiefs in the playoffs because Taylor Swift will being tons of viewers

I'm beginning to think Chiefs might beat the Ravens.

As I was listening to the Raiders Cheifs game and then the Chargers Ravens game, I determined that for the AFC I think a 10-7 record this year is not good enough to get you into the playoffs. Maybe with a lot of luck one can sneak in for the 7th seed. But I think every team will have at least 11 wins.

For the NFC I think 9-8 will keep you out of the Playoffs. Again with a lot of luck maybe you can sneak in as a 7th seed but I think that is unlikely.

Hi there I need a nfl or ncaa team’s stadium to build in Minecraft I can’t do any teams that have a dome but besides that I can do anything if you could just comment a team I will try and do it

The Browns shouldn't have traded 3 1st round picks, and two fourth-round picks for Watson. Instead, we could have had Baker Mayfield on our team who led us to the playoffs in 2020 for the first time since 2002. He almost led us to the Super Bowl but lost to the Chiefs by only 5 pts. But instead, we have Watson who has sat out for almost half the games we have played so far this season. He has been Sitting on the bench because his arm hurts. But we had Baker play while he was injured and because they thought he was doing so bad we got rid of him for a 2024 conditional draft pick. Also, we could have gotten Mayfield for probably 4 more years for the low price of 36 mil but instead, we got Watson for a 5 Year 230 MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT. I don't know why the browns have to do this... They have done this every year and they are making everybody mad. So thank you Browns for Watson

Hi! I've found plenty of videos analyzing the Pats D in super Bowl 53, but the Rams D also did an incredible job, and I'd like to watch a video or read an article that talks about their formation choices/ matchup selections, etc. Does anyone know of any resources for this? Thanks!

Seems like a stupid argument to me but still. IMO the Cowboys are better on both sides of the ball, and will finish with atleast 11-12 wins while the Steelers will be around 9-8

The Chicago Bears offense looks awful. It’s needs to be torn down to the studs and redone but It’s the middle of the season so that is not possible but they can make some changes. So here is what I think is going on and how to fix it.

Running the ball, Roschon Johnson, Khalil Herbert

• Roschon should be the back for 12 personnel, 21 personnel, shotgun when Kmet is split out wide. The interior of the line cannot win against D Tackles. Roschon is the best runner after contact and has amazing contact balance. The tackles cannot be left on an island. When Kmet is split out and cannot chip Roschon is the best option for Pass Pro.
• Herbert should be the be the back for 11 personnel, shotgun (when Kmet is attached or short split), and non heavy personnel sets. He is not the best in Pass Pro which is ok, so let’s stop asking him to do it.

Cole Kmet

• Kmet has to be chipping on every play he is attached to the line. No, ifs, ands, or buts. They need to help that line as much as possible. More underneath routes, quick outs, seam routes. Fields needs him to be an outlet and a safety blanket on most drop back play calls.

Motion/Movement

• They need more motion pre and post snap. They have DJ Moore and Darnell Mooney, they need to use them to stress defenses horizontally. One of those two should be in motion 50-70% of plays.
  • This will create easy give me throws, this is because it cause natural pick plays, opens up the middle of the field for crossers. Always give Fields an answer.
  • Players in this offense seem to be in the wrong place often or effectively covering themselves by running into zones, running the wrong route against coverage, or simply running what looks to be the wrong route. This should make receivers reading coverages easier and running choice routes better
  • More Rollouts and Boots, they cannot block drop effectively. They need to get Fields on the move more and threaten the defense in different ways.

Chase Claypool

• While I’m on receivers Claypool needs to show consistency effort. There is nothing else to that point just that. I think they should probably just use him as an X and if he wins backside get him the ball. If he continues like this he has to be benched.

Justin Fields issues

• Fields needs more urgency on his drop back and less urgency on his reads. This is entirely a timing issue. Fields is slow on his drop back. So he is rushing his reads which are already rushed due to poor line play. He needs to settle and read. So he has to get back in his drop faster. (This is interesting because his drop was not like this a year ago. Which leads me to one of two conclusions 1) this is a coaching decision. They had him to elongate his drop for some reason, and it was a bad idea or 2) he chose to do this on his own because he does not trust his o line to give him enough to to complete his drop, hitch and throw.) Either way fix it and fix it now.
• Fields is not seeing the field. He is too sped up. He is doing one of two things 1) holding onto his first two read far too long or 2) blowing through all his reads in .5 seconds and not letting anything develop. This is partially because he does not trust his line. In a lot of his drop backs he is either getting to the check down way too early or getting to read 3-4 super late because he held 1-2 for too long.
• Too many turn downs. Fields is turning down throws he should/can make. He has had about 15 throws over the two games so far he turned down when he could have for sure made the throw. There is no real reason I can come up with for some of the turn downs. It almost as if he is scared to turn the ball over or put it in remotely dangerous situations. If he sees a flash of color he is not throwing it. This is weird because he was good in college at those throws. He took chances he either does not trust his receivers to win or he was specifically told to not take chances and do not put the ball in dangerous positions. If it is the latter that is a coaching issue and leads to some points I will make later.

Oline

• The Line has to communicate better. They do not identify blitzes or stunts well. I chalked it up to youth but the kids need to grow up and grow up fast. They cannot fail to identify and pick up actions this much.
• Figure out what they are doing in Pass Pro, too many plays where they are sliding different ways, or free rushers where they run past a tackle or guard without a hand being laid on them

Changes in Play Calling and Coaching

• Lets start with play calling, play calling has been horrendous. The game is not called with any rhyme or reason. Specifically the drop back and play action game. The way the game have been called looks as if they do not trust Fields…until it is 3rd and 7+ and they ask Fields him to read the entire field and make a play with a line that cannot pass protect.
• Oline coaching
  • fix blocking scheme. I literally have no clue, what they are doing blocking at times. Like I cannot identify what are supposed to be assignments and what is supposed to be happening. This is a coaching issue. There is no way assignments are screwed up this often
• Justin Fields Coaching
  • Stop over coaching and protecting him. Let him play Understand that the offense scheme sucks and the personnel is not great. The offense does not have easy completions outside of screens everything has to be worked for. So with that being said. Stop telling Fields to be cautious. He has to straight up just rip it. Tell him to be aggressive, he needs to make game changing throws for you to win and that’s on coaching for not giving him gimme throws.

All in All I believe that the bears can be an NFL offense. They just have to figure out what they are doing upfront and let their players win their match ups and put them in positions to succeed which they have not been doing.

As a Steeler fan I want every edge against the 49ers in week one we can get but hear me out.

49ers have a huge kicking issue on their hands. Shanahan even said it. Therefore they should sign form Pitt kicked Blewitt. I understand he has only 3 starts in like 5 years but he played on Heinz Field (Acrisure Stadium now) when he was at Pitt. During that time he he is 5th all time in that stadium in accuracy only being Bosell, Reed, Suisham, and Tucker. He ties Boswell for the longest made filed goal in that stadium at 62 yds and was the first kicker to convert a 60+ harder in that stadium.

Blewitt knows how to kick on that fielf. The 49ers should sign him for at least week one.

I was recently going through my files on an old computer. and found a draft of a giant post I made after I did some very-amatuerish data science on the 2019 crop of QBs. I thought it was terrible at the time. But then it turned out I had successfully predicted Gardner Minshew, and I didn't even know it. So, for discussion, the contents of the original post.

2019 NFL Draft QB Analysis

First, I just want to say. I am no expert. I wasn't even especially rigorous. This is just fun and probably not a very good way to predict anything. However, I think I manage to get some interesting results. Including that this model really just fell in love with Gardner Minshew.

For those of you unfamiliar with linear regression, you might want to watch this Khan Academy video to get an idea of how I did this.

I wanted to build a model that could take a quarterbacks college stats and try to predict what kind of statistical output they would have in the pros. As an added bonus, once I projected them in the pros, I tried to figure out what pro quarterbacks had similar numbers to their projections.

The first thing I did was decide what statistics I wanted to use to make my model. I decided to not use any volume stats and only use efficiency stats. I did not want to favor good QBs that had been in the NFL a long time or bad ones that managed to stick around. And because this draft features Kyler Murray, you bet I wanted to try to throw in some rushing statistics too.

I decided to build a model using a QB college stats:

• Games played in college
• Completion %
• TD%
• INT%
• Yards / Attempt
• Yards / Game
• Rushing Yards / Attempt
• Rush Yards / Game
• Rush Attempts / Game

To predict these stats in the NFL:

• Completion %
• TD%
• INT%
• Yards / Attempt
• Yards / Game
• Rushing Yards / Attempt
• Rush Yards / Game
• Rush Attempts / Game

Then I went to acquire both professional and college statistics on Quarterbacks. Sports reference custom leader boards for college football only went to 2000, so anyone who entered the NFL before then was not used to build the model. So far as active quarterbacks, it only excludes Tom Brady and Drew Brees who are such freaks they probably shouldn't be included anyway. I also did not want to include any quarterbacks who were rookies last year. For instance, I did not think Josh Rosen's numbers last really represent the kind of Pro quarterback he will eventually become.

Then I took all of the quarterbacks from this upcoming draft, and fed their career stats through the model I had created. This is a projection of what their pro stats might look like based upon what they were able to produce in college. I sorted by TD% because scoring points is how you win, and you play to win the game.

Using Career Stats

Stat Projections

You'll notice that Kyler Murray shows up at the top with a 4.55% Touchdown percentage. That actually is not amazing and would have put him about around 20th in 2018. Just below Nick Mullens and above Dak Prescott. I think just kind of shows how many quarterbacks can put up great numbers in college and then totally flop in the NFL. I suspect any model that looks at the numbers is just going to learn that basically all quarterbacks suck.

Then after I had projected their NFL stats, I compared their projections to NFL quarterbacks who played after the year 1990. This does not have the same restrictions as the QBs used to build the model because I wasn't using their college stats in any way. Disclaimer, if you see someone and you think aren't they from the 80s? (Such as Jim McMahon who does appear here), you're looking at the post-1990 version of them.

For people who are nerds: To make these comparisons, I normalized everyone's stats and took the 2-norm to figure distances.

QB Comparisons

As a bonus, I ran all of the draft Qbs through the model using only their 2018. This produced something that was maybe a bit optimistic. It absolutely loved Gardner Minshew. Many of you probably do not know Gardner Minshew because he is at the bottom of most draft boards. He's still above Jordan Ta'amu who still sucked with maybe the 2nd best WR corp in college football. However, Minshew had a monster senior season after a few years of being absolutely pedestrian. He would probably be a lot higher on draft boards, but if you look at his tape you'll notice his throwing mechanics are actually god awful and he has a wobbly wet noodle arm. That combined with he got the luxury of playing in an Air Raid offense his last year in college.

Using 2018 Season Stats

Stat Projections

QB Comparisons

Overall, I would say you should not make your draft grades based upon stats. You would probably draft Gardner Minshew hoping to get Matthew Stafford but then realize in camp that Minshew has the arm of 2015 playoffs Peyton Manning but actually still worse. And for what it's worth, I don't like Daniel Jones so my code must have somehow picked that up, because it kind of hates Daniel Jones too.

I found the AFC very complicated to figure out but here I go.

1. Chiefs 13-4 (wins Superbowl)

2. Bengals 12-5

3. Bills 12-5

4. Jaguars 10-7

5. Steelers 11-6 (Darkhorse)

6. Chargers 11-6

7. Baltimore 11-6

8. Jets 10-7

9. Browns 10-7

10. Miami 9-8

NFC was a little easier but there's a clear difference from the worst and the best.

1. Eagles 13-4

2. Saints 11-6 (Darkhorse)

3. 49ers 11-6 (Loses SB)

4. Packers 10-7

5. Cowboys 11-6

6. Lions 10-7

7. Commanders 10-7

8. Bears 10-7

9. Vikings 9-8

10. Rams 9-8

Yes. You heard that right. The Lions have only won one playoff game since the time that John, Paul, George and Ringo were at the top of the world. You didn’t think it could get worse but it did. One playoff win during the entire era of the Beatles peak popularity and influence in my opinion is more embarrassing than the Browns never making the Super Bowl.

The Beatles became famous in 1962. During that time the Lions have had 20 head coaches and and almost 50 starting quarterbacks. And all of that equals to ONE playoff win. ONE.

I really feel for Lions fans. Knowing that the Tigers, Pistons, and Red Wings have all won multiple championships since 1962.

And unfortunately, the Lions have been holding back Detroit sports.

What are your thoughts on the Lions having won one playoff game since the Beatles became famous?

This is my first Reddit post ever but this guy at my work was arguing with me about this, so I came here for guidance. In my mind Jalen Ramsey is easily a hall of fame lock already. He is a Super Bowl champion, 3x first team all pro, and a 5x pro bowler among having the personality and financial credentials behind it. But I want to hear opinions as I’m only 18 and have really only ever known him as the most dominant corner since I started watching football.

Can someone actually tell me what Josh Allen has done to be considered top 5 to me he seems overrated based on arm talent alone

What's ya'lls opinion on it. I personally Believe it does more harm than good. If I'm a minority coach in the NFL, now I'm gonna be thinking was my hire just a token hire or did they actually want me. And the picks they get give teams ulterior motivation fir these hires