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I'm only just starting to learn Japanese so I probably have no idea what I'm talking about,
however, so far I get the impression that Kanji are honestly pretty alright apart from kun readings, but that kana are very disorderly and hard to read.
From what I know, I feel like there wouldn't be a problem with making a "moraic morphography" inspired by hangul:
I'd love to know why this (presumably) doesn't work from someone more knowledgeable than me :)
Below are three phrases, in order of when they were written. I wanted to create a writing system that, like Tolkien's Tengwar, were organized in a logical order phonetically, and also had an obvious "style". At first I made some similar characters from diagonal lines, and then modified the Tengwar diacritics to be more sharp and straight. In the second image, I abandoned those new diacritics, and added a short line separating words, but by that time most of the letters had an overbar, completely by accident. I noticed this and changed them such that they could be differentiated only by the bottom section and could not be confused with characters before and after them. In the third image, everything looks much neater and the modified diacritics are back. You can still see quite a bit of Tengwar influence though: The first letter of the third image is an extended tinco (a shorthand for "the"), without the *telco (*stem), and with sharp edges. The last character is a Tengwar period with two of the dots connected and the other turned into a short line.
It fits, i think. Efficient? Nope. I like it.
I developed this alphabet drawing mostly from Latin, Cyrillic, Hebrew, and Japanese script. It is not a direct letter-to-letter of the English alphabet. These days I use it mostly for Bible study. Can anyone figure out which passage this is?
While washing the floor in my house, I had an interesting idea for a movie. A two-part film set in a futuristic future with a brilliant plot but everything is recorded in a fictional language. Every scene of the film from beginning to end recorded in a fully translatable and teachable fictional language. Without any subtitles.
I wonder what you think about this idea, it's stupid but it seems very interesting to me.
Most of the glyphs are done and encoded, all that's left is some more ligatures and kerning everything. This is how it looks at this stage. What do you think?
While looking through my old writer's notes I came across these two lines, but I can't remember what they meant or what where the rules, can anyone guess?
Picto-han (pictographic hanzi, hanzi without sound components) works as a fully fledged written language. For more info on the grammar of Picto-Han, See the ''conlang'' post. This post emphasizes the way the script looks!
https://www.reddit.com/r/conlangs/comments/1gfofqp/what_if_chinese_characters_had_no_sound/
Print/block letters: (sorry for the font, I squashed and stretched components rather than redrawing them, makin the line thickness and proportion inconsistent, and sometimes distorted).
Axolotl(general) | Is descritive| Cute | Agreement Interjection|
Aren't axolotls cute?!
Handwritten print letters(I forgot the diacritic, oops):
Flowstyle script (This is how they usually handwrite in the original country. Each component has its own new stroke order and look based on their own traditional style mixed with the modern chinese script styles. It is much rounder and more flowy! But not as ''shorthand'' as grass script in Chinese.).
Char 1 Axolotl: An axolotl component I made.
Char 2 Descriptive Is: Part of the character of a woman giving birth (for to be) + Quality (highlighting lines component I made)
Char 3 Cute: Caring hand + Heart + Baby.
Char 4: Agreement Exclamation: Mouth + Eachother.
Han~Picto | Posesses| Roughly speaking | Thousand - 4| Hundred - 3| Written Characters
''Picto-han has roughly 4300 characters''.
Me|Is Identity | Person name| L-a | n-a. |Or| D-y|l-a|n-a
What is Picto-Han/Mon4Han4?
Picto-Han is a fully fledged written logographic language which uses a phonetic script for proper nouns and hard to translate words. The idea is to have a written hanzi language that any other language can use and makes it easy for the original culture to spread. It takes all the components found in modern chinese characters and arranges them into unique new characters (with the exception of a few loans). It also features a set of its own unique components, some of which are modern.
I made it on the idea of ''What if Hanzi had no sound components, asin all components need to have something to do with the meaning?''. It has several unique features such as its classifier system, inflectional diacritics, linking diacritics, and copula.
This version is Standardized, prescriptive international Picto-Han, which tries to make it more similar to Manderin and English. This one only has 1 main meaning/sense per character for disambiguation sake, which can then be extended in the abstract, functional, or specific terminology. Ofcourse you can use them figuratively if it makes sense in context, but the meaning will never be officially embedded into the character as that usage spreads, that only happens with its vernacular versions which are allowd to evolve in any way. It has a bunch of modernizations, and many old now indistinguishable components that have faded away in the modern language due to standardization were left out.
With 4000+ Characters, I now sort of consider Picto-Han a usable language of sorts, in the buggy alpha stages. Of course some common words are still missing, but you can communicate a lot of general things. I removed the last few posts until I'd have a more conclusive version out.
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What are the numbers and sound characters?
As you can see above, technically it is a mixed script. But this is only really used for proper nouns and hard to translate things where the sound is more important. In vernacular versions it can be used for inflections.
There are several options for phonetic aspects:
1: Use the phonetic script of the original language
2: Use the original script, like above. This one is based on the look of Hiragana.
3: Use the modified Hangul script from the international version, which I used in the other post. This was chosen as it was easier and took up lace space, allowing more use of space within syllable blocks.
Block Rules are subject to change.
Numbers may use Western Arabic Numerals, or the modified original number script meant to fit more with western arabic numerals. In these, you first write the unit above. So if you want to write 4000, you write thousand at the top of the block. Then below you write the number its in that unit. So you'll want to write''4'' below. Then the next block will have the hundreths. So for ''300'' you write ''100'' and then ''3''.
The only caveat is that the last block can start with digits in the 10s (10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90) and THEN a singular number. So ''97'' is written ''90 (top) 7(bottom)''. The 10 digit ones actually look mostly the same as the non 10 digit ones, they just add a dot to the middle (or for 1, 2 and 3 which are already dots, add a circle around them).
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Some more print letter examples
Command|Help|, Here | Is present | Emergency | Intense emotion exclamation
''Help! There's an emergency!''
Char 1: Command: Saying + Authority
Char 2: Help: Action hand/Doing + Helping hands
Char 3: Here. Stopping Foot + Sitting Person
Char 4: Is present. Water<state> + Roof + Holding (a hand holding a cliff)
Char 5: Emergency. Lightning + Roof + Fire (depicts a building on fire).
Char 6: Mouth<Interjection>+Heart+Heavy
As custom components were often either modern, or converted to the Chinese Script style later, they tend to resemble what they represent more:
From left to right:
Cat | Dog | Bee | Shark | Apple| Waterfall | Curtain | Reverting (ideograph) | Volcano | Signpost
A few shapes I found but don't know where I got it from were assigned arbitrary meanings by me.
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The sound script that isn't the hangul one is still a work in progress. Things are subject to change.
Dipthongs are undecided and block rules are subject to change. May alter a few characters as well. A sound or number script wasn't intended at first.
''Su-per| ma|rio| Bros| 3
or
Su-pur | ma|rio| Bros| 3
See how its less cumbersome?
Again still gotta decide the consonant vowel block rules in how they effect position!
I hope that's interesting!
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Here is a greeting for Halloween in Khajananagari. Feel free to express your thoughts about this. I know it is not good but yeah, it is how it is.