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What is the best way to get out of higher value singles?

I am looking to sell some duals bc of life things and need the money that they are sitting in. What is the best way to sell them? While getting them to sell reasonably fast but not compromising to heavily on the value?

6 Comments
2024/04/15
23:09 UTC

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Weekend Wrap Up! What was real and what was a trap?

What happened over the weekend and what do you think about it? Was it just hype? What it a real change? What do you think will happen going forward? Also feel free to use this space to discuss anything MTG Finance related.

64 Comments
2024/04/15
11:00 UTC

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How do you keep track/manage your specs?

Title. How do you keep track of how much you've spent on a card?

Are you manually tracking that card everyday to know when to sell?

15 Comments
2024/04/14
23:31 UTC

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How do you guys sort your Common pile(s)? I’m looking into more extensive storage solutions

109 Comments
2024/04/14
07:08 UTC

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Doctor Who: Regeneration, Bonus Card

27 Comments
2024/04/13
20:12 UTC

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Prid3's Picks 2024-04-13: Tsabo's Web, Myth Unbound, Elementalist's Palette, Extravagant Replication, Horn of Gondor, Others

Bit behind on posting some of these but whatever. Such is life.

[[Tsabo's Web]] is draining from TCG due to its common inclusion in Premodern and increasingly Legacy sideboards. Mostly Premodern though where it sees a ton of play. The card is a single print rare from Invasion and is commonly played as a 3-4 of so I'm very high on this spec moving forward, especially for those of you on TCG Direct. High demand and low supply is always going to be a winning combo and it doesn't get much better than this.

On the casual EDH front EA Grand Crescendo, [[Myth Unbound]], [[Elementalist's Palette]], [[Horn Of Gondor]], [[Phenax, God of Deception]] and [[Tekuthal, Inquiry Dominus]] are all showing strong signs of growth. I don't think there's any particular reason why many of these are moving other than generic, organic demand so consider it a small laundry list of specs to consider.

[[Obeka, Splitter of Seconds]] is still all the rage and [[Extravagant Replication]] is the latest card to really start taking off. I think most people are keenly aware of the Courts and [[Descent into Avernus]] by now so I won't bother rehashing those but know that they're still flowing like water out of TCG.

On the SLD front [[Edgin, Larcenous Lutenist]] is a clear winner likely because it's a shoe-in for Plot-based decks and/or the new UR OTC precon. Another strong gainer is Sram, Senior Edificer likely because of its ubiquity in all things "Equip matters" and the upcoming Death Race set later... next year? probably isn't going to hurt.

On another note, I want to highlight something this Reddit pointed out to me. [[Wreck and Rebuild|WHO]] was a WHO original that received an (as-is) reprint in OTC. No changes whatsoever [[Wreck and Rebuild|OTC]]. You can almost certainly expect to see an [[Orcish Bowmasters]] reprint (and others) with that info in mind because there's nothing IP wise stopping WOTC from doing so. Just something to keep in mind.

32 Comments
2024/04/13
19:56 UTC

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How long should you wait to purchase prerelease cards

I've been looking at a lot of the thunder junction cards, and while I haven't pulled a [[lotus ring]] yet from prerelease boxes I want to buy one. It's currently trending down on TCG for $13 for the base version and continually deopping. My only concern is the FOMO of not buying it at its current price and then either see it tanking when release comes out or sckrocket in price a week from now. Is there any real concern that I shouldn't just jump on it now?

49 Comments
2024/04/13
15:15 UTC

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Anyone know how much the Magic Con Las Vegas jackets are reselling for?

Can’t find any info on it.

6 Comments
2024/04/13
15:10 UTC

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What do you guys think the new jace will do

It seems like there are enough ways to cheat it in. Do we think it a hold or sell

11 Comments
2024/04/13
03:21 UTC

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At what point of damage is a card worthless

This card isn't ripped or bent but, obviously, the back of the card is "marked" by the damage it has and shouldn't be played outside of a sleeve.

Let's say for example this version of this card was worth $84 at New Mint, how severely, percentage wise, does this kind of condition effect the value? (To be clear I assume it severely lowers the value but idk if that means it worth a single dollar out of 84, or a penny)

99 Comments
2024/04/12
23:37 UTC

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TCGPlayer is sunsetting the Direct Buylist is no one else freaking out?

I got an email that the Direct Buylist is going to end sometime in 2024 and I haven't seen anyone else talk about. Is this a non-issue for everyone?

Basically I've been buying commander decks which are generally at least "on paper" more valuable than what they cost if you buy the whole set of 4 or 5, or 2 of each if there are only 2 (like Brothers' War). I sell the singles and then take half the payments I receive from TCGPlayer and put that into the buylist, this has allowed me to get high value buylist cards (sheoldred for ~60 recently, but also a Savannah the end of last year) and accelerate and make more consistent my Direct Reimbursement invoices...There's fees and the cards don't always sell immediately so it isn't exactly a free money glitch, but the cycle of buy stuff --> reinvest in the buylist was working.

I'm kinda not sure what I'm going to do now....might even consider not selling? For context I'm basically selling cards out of my closet, not trying to open an LGS or anything.

72 Comments
2024/04/12
22:16 UTC

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Commander deck offboarding

Hello all,

My nephew wanted to learn to play Magic so i brought out all my commander decks to let him pick one and try it out. With doing so, i noticed I have quite a few commander decks, some of which i have not updated nor played in quite awhile.
I know it is easier to sell off singles compared to selling off a complete deck, but has anyone had experience selling a complete deck? Was there a particular place you had better experience than others? What range of price did you go for based on what the cost of the deck actually was?
Any information is appreciated. Thank you.

5 Comments
2024/04/12
18:34 UTC

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TCGPlayer Seller Inventory Pricing Question Regarding Quantity

https://preview.redd.it/388lptzej2uc1.png?width=2513&format=png&auto=webp&s=3d9e3db31f5c224462e88d4c042f99ba4eaa6a8f

Hello and sorry for the new seller question, but I just recently reached Seller Level 4 and can start using the convenient 'Pricing" tool. When I export my Live inventory to put it in Staged for price edits, it shows a ton of cards that I have already sold for some reason just as "Total Quantity: 0"

Is there a way to exclude these somehow when pulling from Live? It's more annoying than anything having the page bloated with cards I no longer have and I couldn't find much info about this online. Or maybe I am just stupid and doing something wrong. Any help is appreciated, thanks!

7 Comments
2024/04/12
15:46 UTC

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Thoughts on Key to the Vault?

I kinda think its gonna be busted and $1.33 seems low for its power level.

96 Comments
2024/04/12
15:11 UTC

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TCGPlayer cancelled buyer's order due to verification check failure

I have around 1000 orders completed through TCGPlayer and this is a first for me. TCGPlayer cancelled this order due to the buyer failing a verification check. The cancellation came around 48hrs after the order came in. I am fairly prompt at sending out orders (I get 90% into the mail same day or within 24hrs).

So here I am left with a refunded order and the product already shipped. What have others been able to do in this situation? Will I get reimbursed or do I just have to eat this cost? I would hate to have to ship orders at the 48-72hr mark but if this means avoiding this possibility then it's what I'll have to do.

33 Comments
2024/04/12
14:43 UTC

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Things to look out for this weekend!

What should we be trading for? What should we be trading away? What cards or events should I have my eye on? Also feel free to use this space to discuss anything MTG Finance related.

67 Comments
2024/04/12
04:01 UTC

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Anyone else notice a slow down in orders?

Or is it just me?

54 Comments
2024/04/12
03:13 UTC

36

Seems like the Dr Who Secret Lair finally shipped

36 Comments
2024/04/11
20:08 UTC

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Why is the LOTR Secret Lair holding value? (Middle Earth Adventures)

Given the mid cards, I fully expected these to eventually drop in price. Is the demand generally holding simply because it's nostalgic art? Do we know census #s (how many produced/sold)? Curious what people's thoughts are.

23 Comments
2024/04/11
17:15 UTC

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LGS is offering ROCA card sorting for $25/hour, min 2 hours. Is this worth it?

The conversation of card sorters has floated around here, and the general feeling I got is that the machines are too finnicky and too hard to maintain that it isn't worth it to get one, especially compared to turning on a movie and sorting.

A local game store is offering rental of their ROCA card sorter at $25/hour, minimum 2 hours, where it can sort about 1000 cards.

 

In what situation could it be worth it to rent card sorter time? How do you calculate if it is or isn't?

82 Comments
2024/04/11
16:17 UTC

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TCGPlayer seller question

I know this may not be completely on topic for this thread but I figure there are enough sellers/buyers on here to maybe get some help. When you issue a refund on TCGPlayer, does TCGPlayer also refund their fee for the sale or is that covered by the seller as well? I have an order where the buyer didn't go pick up their order from the post office and now it's being shipped back to me, but I don't want to refund the entire amount if I'm also having to cover TCGPlayer's fee. Thanks for any help on this

6 Comments
2024/04/11
16:00 UTC

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I feel like most TCG's are for the "rich" or "upper class" members of society.

With the spikes we have seen lately I think we can safely announce that collecting RL and 93/94 era cards has been taken to a new level. A level were the vast majority are unable to participate and keep up. A level where a stimulus check won't cover the card you want. I believe we are entering a time where cards are like pieces of an art collection and change owners from time to time. So what happens when players and small time speccers are out of the loop, and only the whales remain?

Even other TCGs and modern sets such as Pokemon, Dragon Ball Super, Star Wars Unlimited, you see cards being pulled from those sets going for 800$ raw for a moonbreon, 5000$ for a GDR (seeded 1 in 96 boxes), 1000$+ for a boba fett or 800$ for a hyperspace darth vadar.

I honestly was excited at first, buying some boxes trying to get these cards, and I love the whole value aspect of these hobbies right now , but thinking back, I was able to collect all the cards I wanted as a kid, from the sets that released. There was never any card or product too impossible to attain as a middle class family then, but now you need to spend legit thousands for even a chance to get the "hit cards" in the series.
When I was collecting MTG, Yugioh, Pokemon, back in the day, no cards were worth anywhere near that kind of money. I think the highest value card was a charizard for 25$ or something. The prices / rarity is kind of out of hand IMO. It's definitely a "rich mans playground" or "investment portfolio" type of thing now, aimed towards adults rather than kids I feel.
I just feel kind of weird about the whole thing, the values of cards are insane now.

87 Comments
2024/04/11
13:09 UTC

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How does tcgplayer pre-sale work?

Let's say that I purchased a pre-sale mind break trap (because I did). Does anything stop the seller from just canceling my order once the set comes out if mindbreak trap goes up Inbetween now and then?

7 Comments
2024/04/10
22:43 UTC

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OTJ Preorders

We have steadily pulled back from Magic products at release, matching with the decline of preorders. The most shocking thing about this release is the disinterest with the Commander Pre-cons which have a history of selling well. The above comes from a US Distributor earlier today.

152 Comments
2024/04/10
20:08 UTC

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Do You Think There Are Uncommons/Commons From OTJ Worth Looking Into?

Mostly asking because this set seems to be pushed with amazing uncommons and commons, especially the new and versatile spree cards.

So far I’m thinking any of these could go over a dollar: [[Requisition Raid]], [[Lavaspur Boots]], [[Bovine Intervention]], [[Forsaken Miner]], [[Slick Sequence]], [[Fleeting Reflection]], [[Doc Aurlock, Grizzled Genius]], [[Shoot the Sheriff]], [[Lively Dirge]], [[Return the Favor]], & [[Reckless Lackey]]

What are you expecting?

61 Comments
2024/04/10
19:46 UTC

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Fomori Vault - BIG speccing

Soon the new set is gonna come out and I usually spec on cards that I myself like to play. Fomori Vault is a mythic in the bonus sheet "BIG" which has following ability:

Fomori Vault

Land

T: Add {1}.

3, T, Discard a card: Look at the top X cards of your library, where X is the number of artifacts you control. Put one of them into your hand, and the others on the bottom of your deck in random order.

As a player being high on artifact decks in commander like Urza, Liberator, Magda and Emry etc. I find myself wanting to put this card in all of them. With the upcoming eldrazi deck in Modern Horizons this will prolly slot in well since it's an auto-include in any colorless deck.

Currently we're at a very high artifact count meta (in commander) where loads of decks want to play powerful artifacts which makes this card even better. This land basically works as a psuedo-tutor for any food deck, clue deck, treasure deck and lets you dig deep into your library for relatively cheap - also on every turn.

This card could possibly see play in "lands" in legacy as well. Seeing as you really don't have to be artifact centric for it to work as you usually have at least four artifacts out between the moxes, spheres and constructs.

I also genuinely believe that cards from BIG will be rarer than most people expect with most collector booster boxes holding maybe 1 at most 2 cards from the BIG bonus sheet.

Last card I preordered for this much (about $8-10) was Agatha's Soul Cauldron. I'm hoping this spec works out. Not sure what my exit will be as I'll most likely hold until Modern Horizons 3 is out.

38 Comments
2024/04/10
19:31 UTC

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Weekly Ask MTGFinance Anything

This is a weekly thread to ask ask questions. Questions about schedules, rating trades, what to do with your cards you pulled, or anything you might feel we can help you with goes here.

69 Comments
2024/04/10
16:00 UTC

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How to ship a sealed secret lair and shipping cards in general.

I have the DND secret lair I have been sitting on for a while now and think it’s time for me to let it go but I’m unconfident with the logistics, Plan is for me to sell it in a facebook group and use PayPal G&S.

I have little to no experience shipping things across the country besides sending some documents and only time I’ve shipped cards is to card kingdom. When shipping things I would go to USPS and do everything from there including picking a random envelope and then having the clerk help with choosing a label and I’d pay over there. The problem with the secret lair is that it’s in an awkwardly small box, so I can’t just stick it in an envelope. It’s also around $150 so I’d need tracking on it for sure.

I’d greatly appreciate how you guys would go about shipping this cost effectively as well as how you ship other cards in general since I want to start offloading things. I have an idea on how to ship regular cards, just a little unclear of if I’m going to the post office and talking to a clerk to send things or somehow printing a label, throwing it in a mailbox and pray.

Sorry if this sounds dumb just want to have a clear process before putting my cards out there.

11 Comments
2024/04/10
15:49 UTC

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