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New TCGPlayer Seller - USPS Postage Non-Machinable

I recently just got my first sale on TCGPlayer where someone bought 4 cards from me for just a little over $5. I packed them in a team bag and sandwiched them between two thin pieces of cardboard, they're like maybe just a bit thicker than construction paper, and put it in a PWE.

I didn't have any stamps so I went to the post office to buy some and to mail it. The guy behind the counter did like a bend test on my envelope and told me it won't go through the machine and that I would need to buy the non-machinable stamps. Which made the postage go from $.73 to $1.19.

I did end up buying a sheet of the non-machinable stamps but now I think I may have been swindled. Since I never heard of this until now and if I remember correctly most cards I receive in a PWE just has the regular postage.

And I'm also wondering if I used a regular stamp and the additional ounce stamp I wonder if that would have worked because that would have been cheaper than the non-machinable stamp. I just want to see if other sellers had a similar experience. I mean would rather pay a little extra than to risk it being returned to me.

18 Comments
2025/02/03
03:26 UTC

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Bone Miser

Hey y'all! First time poster, so I apologize if I got this wrong.

I'm speculating this card has gone up quite a lot due to the recent zombie precon, but I wanted thoughts and speculation that couldinform me further.

Great news for me, as I bought this for a completely unrelated, nonzombie deck for around $9 last year.

38 Comments
2025/02/02
02:06 UTC

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I need advice please

Recently I've began selling in TCG Player, I just hit level 2 so I have a little more Inventory space to list my bulk, I keep seeing people have a "floor price", which is the minimum price they would charge for a card, personally, my floor is 10 cents. My main question is when refering to "floor price" do they mean that they list cards that have a market low price of 1 cent for 10 cents? Or does that mean they only ever list cards that have a market low price of 10 cents or up? Sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm probably overthinking the whole thing, but I've listed about 100 cards that go for 1 cent for 10 cents and none of them have sold. Thanks 👍

12 Comments
2025/02/02
00:40 UTC

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Extended art cards are only in collectors now?

They've dropped all the SPG from the play boosters. Now they dropped all the extended from them too? The Play Boosters have been total crap.

19 Comments
2025/02/01
21:48 UTC

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Tortured Existence

What did i miss why is this up so much?

74 Comments
2025/02/01
20:37 UTC

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Facetoface Shipping

Hey fellow Canadians! I recently wanted to purchase cards at Facetoface and found that the free shipping option seemed to have disappeared completely. Even with bigger carts, the option for 1.99 shipping was removed and I had no other options other than the Tracked Shipping option. Did I miss the announcement about this change?

18 Comments
2025/01/31
23:59 UTC

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Chrome mox price staying steady or going down?

For those who keep track and pay more attention to top tier cards. With Special Guest slot announcement, has the price been dropping or stayed the same? Questioning whether or not to pick one up during the reprint

Edit:Thank you for the answers. im not buying any yet. Im a collector and player. Buy stapple cards as they drop, so i have them while cheap. Did it for meathook masscre, doubling season, and etc. That way, as I build decks, I don't have quite the same expense if its a top tier or cedh build

22 Comments
2025/01/31
22:39 UTC

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Cardmarket Clarification

I live in the UK and when I put cards in my cart on Cardmarket from some countries it Europe it states that they’re coming from outside my customs territory, which can result in delays and additional costs. To clarify, does that mean after I buy these cards I could be given an additional charge at some point in the future? Or is this potential additional charge already included in the shipping price?

13 Comments
2025/01/31
19:44 UTC

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[Article] Cheap Pick-Ups From Innistrad Remastered

Hey all, my latest at Cardsphere highlights a few cards from Innistrad Remastered that have seen a significant price dip after this reprint and are worth grabbing:

https://blog.cardsphere.com/sphere-of-influence-january-31-2025/

I'm incredibly psyched that [[Vanquish the Horde]] is getting a reprint. That card never fails to impress me with its efficiency, and it's probably the best white board wipe available in Commander. Definitely worth picking one up soon, if you haven't already.

What do you all think? Any Commander cards you've had your eyes on that are now more affordable?

35 Comments
2025/01/31
19:23 UTC

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Card Conduit Issues

I shipped an order to cardconduit on INN Remastered cards on Tuesday with a pricing of $1300 NM. They arrived yesterday with the pricing still $1300 NM. As of this morning they have dropped the pricing to $250 NM. The site also lacks the functionality to cancel arrived orders and I have to HOPE support lets me cancel. (CardKindgom can cancel up until they have processed and priced and also locks in pricing at submission)

Now a price shift of 10-15% or maybe even 20% would have made sense and been annoying but acceptable, but an 80% drop once cards have been sent is unacceptable. Either have a more up to date buylist, or honor your prices. Its completely absurd to have those kind of shifts post-confirmation. I'd strongly advise not utilizing Card Conduit.

116 Comments
2025/01/31
17:29 UTC

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Something is happening with Steel Golem

Overnight on CardMarket, NM copies in Germany are virtually sold out. Both Weatherlight and X Edition.

What is driving this? Maybe it's good for crewing?

18 Comments
2025/01/31
07:58 UTC

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Controversial opinion - FF and Marvel might be the worst investments of the year

Right hear me out.

I, like almost everyone else around here, am super hyped for FF and Marvel. I want to get my hands on as much product as possible when the times comes. And I think herein lies the problem. This can result in a few downside risk scenarios:

Wizard knows demand will be extremely high and will want to capitalise on that. They will certainly print according to the expected demand so the supply will be nuts. Given we won’t know the true supply, I suspect many will be buying at extremely high prices (above MSRP given the distributors and stores will also want to price gouge) in the early days only to realise down the line that the supply is massive. If a CBB of either sells at $500, but ends up being massively printed this is unlikely to hold value.

I also wonder whether we will end up with CBB’s with only 4 packs inside? Although it doesn’t appear they’ve ever done this for standard sets so hopefully won’t happen.

In any cases, I am wary that the cardboard will end up being over valued in the early days. WOTC knows how to make money and has seen the success of LOTR and will expect a lot of genuine but also speculative demand which they’ll look to profit from.

Hope I’m wrong but curious on other views on the sub.

52 Comments
2025/01/31
06:41 UTC

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Things to look out for this weekend!

What should we be trading for? What should we be trading away? What cards or events should I have my eye on? Also feel free to use this space to discuss anything MTG Finance related.

71 Comments
2025/01/31
05:01 UTC

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Unfulfilled Desires 2021 Spike

As most of have noticed, the command zone spiked Unfulfilled Desires this week as part of their upgrades to the new Esper zombie deck. I’m curious why it spiked back in the 2021 to $47? Was it just a symptom of ‘lock down’ run on reserve list cards? Was there something in Kaldheim or Strixhaven? How long do you think this spike will last?

53 Comments
2025/01/31
03:00 UTC

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Buyer Etiquette question: late letter/postmark

Hey, figured I'd ask here for what sellers would find reasonable in this case.

  • Ordered something at the start of January.
  • Messaged seller that it hadn't shown up as of the expected date and asked if they could confirm when they shipped it.
  • Seller said letters were late, and to give it some time.
  • Card shows up today, 4 weeks after ordering.
  • Card postmark stamp is a week ago. 3 weeks after I placed the order. [edit] 8 days after I contacted the seller.

So, in this situation, should I call out the seller and leave feedback that he waited 3 weeks to ship, or assume it's usual USPS issues?

How much leeway should sellers be given for actually sending cards out on time?

31 Comments
2025/01/31
01:16 UTC

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Ravnice Clue / Cluedo Edition

I have been keeping an eye on the Ravnica: Clue Edition over the past few months, watching it go on sale occasionally on Amazon Europe. At the moment, it is selling for €34.02, down from its original €70 price tag. I was curious whether it was worth buying based on the current prices of single cards. Below are my findings in case they are useful to someone else. All prices are based on the lowest available price on MCM.

The set includes a variety of cards, with the main attraction being the Foil Shock Land Box Topper. This can be any shock land. Watery Grave is the most expensive (€22.00), while Temple Garden is the cheapest (€13.90). On average, they go for €18.35.

The set also contains eight Jumpstart-style boosters with predefined card lists. Most of the contents are draft filler, but the average expected value of a pack is €2.10—only counting cards worth more than €0.10 (details below) — So for 8 packs that's a total of €16.80. (Assuming you don't get duplicate packs, the lowest combination is €5.20 by the way - rough.)

Additionally, the deck comes with a Clue Booster containing 21 Evidence cards. I couldn’t find specific information on whether these are randomized or not. I assume all 21 unique cards are included. Only the legendary cards hold any significant value, bringing the estimated total to around €4.00.

That brings the total EV to €39.15.

27 Comments
2025/01/30
23:14 UTC

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Look ahead to Tarkir

What are peoples thought on how the return to Tarkir is going to go? I know every one expects this year to be the year of Marvel and FF and when it is all done and over from a money perspective that will probably be true. I expect a very high effort high bar for Tarkir Dragonstorm though, I was really encouraged with just how much effort went into making sure fans got everything they needed and more out of the return to Kamigawa as a fan favorite that had waited for so long, I imagine the designers will have a similar goal with this one.

They've said the goal is to take what was best about each installment in of the block and distill it into one set, so that means wedges, will it involves a rare land cycle? The fetches are problematic for Standard, do the Triomes get a makeover? We've seen Ugin, it also look like the Jace/Vraska storyline will take a big step forward here will there be a Jace card?

The world building in the first block hooked me into this game I plan on throwing a lot of this years cardboard budget at this set in particular even knowing Spiderman and FF are smarter "investments", what does the board think will be cooking when we get there?

65 Comments
2025/01/30
22:57 UTC

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DFT - likelihood it just keeps climbing l?

It unexpectedly turns out DFT has a lot of chase cards. The mox, lotus some decent mythics and fracture foils. How often has it been in history where a set CHB with at least 2 massive chases (mox and lotus in this case) hasn’t gone up in value?

42 Comments
2025/01/30
21:18 UTC

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How likely do you think it is that Edgar Markov will increase in price again?

Edgar Markov, per TCGPlayer, was selling at between $90-$100 until Oct-Nov when it dropped in price to 60. Right now, the Innistrad Remastered base version is trading at around $40. Do you guys think that's new price going forawrd for the next few years?

Curious, as I pulled 5 (!) Edgar Markovs, including the Showcase, in my Collector Edition.

47 Comments
2025/01/30
20:48 UTC

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eBay NOT raising final value fees on CCG Sales

https://www.ebay.com/sellercenter/resources/seller-updates/2025-january/final-value-fee

While eBay is raising the Final Value Fee on MOST categories by 0.35%, they are NOT doing so on CCGs. Those remain at 13.25% for those without a store or who have a Starter Store, and 12.35% for those with a Basic Store or above. I'm definitely pleased by this, and I'm hoping this means TCGplayer isn't going to do a fee increase either. Thoughts?

18 Comments
2025/01/30
19:44 UTC

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Overlord of the Balemurk price discrepeny

Many have likely seen this card recently rise. Shortly after release it had a spike to around 26 but then fairly quickly fell again to around 10-12. With the last two weeks it’s popped off again to around 37 dollars. However on TCGplayer foil copies of the extended version are only 26 pre tax. It’s not uncommon to see extended arts be lower than traditional border for several months due to the way TCGplayer optimizes for traditional prints. That being said the gap usually is greatest during a spike. Not sure I’d want to spec on the extended by any means but those still looking for a cheaper copy might not do too bad looking at extended version if needing one for play.

52 Comments
2025/01/30
16:22 UTC

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Laboratory Maniac Spec hold?

Looking at the prices on TCGplayer all previous releases of the card sell for $5-6 while the INR remastered version is currently selling for .30-.40

Do we think these will increase over the coming months once the market has had time to balance?

11 Comments
2025/01/30
15:42 UTC

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Think I figured out how TCGplayer calculates Market Price for a good chunk of thier inventory...

I'm not sure if TCGplayer has ever disclosed their formula for determining Market Price, but I couldn't find the answer to how it is calculated online, so I went about trying to figure it out and here is what I came up with:

It is calculated using the average price sold in the last 25 transactions (the quantity sold in each transaction doesn't matter).

Make sure when you look at "View More Data", you filter for condition & foil/non foil. Also, exclude any sales that were for cards that had a picture in the listing.

I tested the formula on a dozen cards... 6 from Innistrad Remastered and 6 from some other random sets (just to change it up) and it worked each time.

There may be some exceptions (like for special versions of cards, or cards that sell infrequently), but I haven't found one in my brief search.

19 Comments
2025/01/30
15:16 UTC

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Will Assassin's Creed collector boosters follow Warhammer and LoTR?

The amount of these things is staggering low and these cards are right on point for Aetherdrift.

With singles like [[Crystal Skull, Isu Spyglass]] will a box of Assassin's Creed collector boosters ever recover?

26 Comments
2025/01/30
14:44 UTC

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EV Play Boxes?

Hey all,

Long time lurker of several TCGs. I like to rip packs, I like to sell cards. I've noticed MTG has a lot EV in their boxes/packs compared to other TCGs because of playability.

I was looking at MTGstocks and it says Bloomburrow has ~$360 of EV, but that seems a little...high. Is this true? Am I missing something?

Even Foundations is at ~$200 EV.

Does anyone else rip boxes to sell singles?

Sitting on a several play boxes from many sets and the gambler in me has been wanting to also rip some packs for fun to pull some nice hits and sell the bulk for some money back.

Bad idea? Am I onto something?

If this comes of as seeking financial advice, sorry, feel free to not opine.

Let me know, thanks!

11 Comments
2025/01/30
06:40 UTC

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TCGPlayer stole $200 from me

They are a bunch of criminals and thieves and scammer-enablers. Their platform sucks utterly and only exists because they have a monopoly. But this is over the line. They deactivated my account after i couldnt ship some orders on time due to being out of town. When I got back, I shipped out all $200 worth of orders before seeing the email notifying me that my account was shut down. The website however still allowed me to mark the orders as shipped as normal, and there was no hold on my payments. Then they put a retroactive hold on payments for orders I had shipped over a week ago and completely stonewalled my attempts to reach out via email. I've contacted my buyers and am attempting to publicly shame TCGPlayer via this post, but I don't seem to have any recourse to them stealing my money short of some kind of pro bono lawyer. Shame on TCGPlayer. Shame on monopolies. F U TCG

127 Comments
2025/01/29
21:37 UTC

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What’s the breakout card people are predicting for aetherdrift

What card is everyone thinking is gonna spike this set? I know a lot of preorder prices are everywhere and usually crash but lately it seems that each set has 1-2 breakout card that spikes way past the preorder price. My guess is aetherspark was play testing it in commander and the amount of times it got me 10 mana the turn after it came out was almost always. What are you guys thinking and speculating on?

114 Comments
2025/01/29
20:20 UTC

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