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This might be a bit of a shot in the dark, but I'm looking for help remembering the title of a mountaineering book I encountered a few months back, and have since lost track of.
It was a re-issue of a diary / instructional manual / biography written by a British mountaineer in the early 20th / late 19th century.
I don't remember many specific details, aside from a few in the opening pages of the book.
The writer mentioned how they would go on trips in scotland and wales with their parents in their youth, and picked up the habit of carrying a long stick / walking staff with them. There was also a brief remark about how those who didn't have some kind of stick with them in the mountains were irresponsible.
There was also a dig at people approaching climbing as a sport, rather than as a tool for exploration, which seemed out of place given the age of the original book.
Amongst other sections describing various rope skills and climbing techniques, there was a paragraph that enouraged the reader to climb trees with a partner as training, belaying eachother with a rope wrapped around the torso.
It's definitely a tad optimistic to think someone's going to recognise this book from these details alone, but worth a shot. Any info helps. Cheers.
Anybody hot recommendations for hiking in Austria
My infatuation with this subject happened 1-2 years ago, kicking off with a re-read of Krakuer's Into Thin Air. Since then, I've read and watched a lot of content. Everything from the Eiger Sanction and the Alpinist to Touching the Void and Broad Peak. I've read a lot of Freedom of the Hills and am working on Annapurna (a favorite so far) and along with Ed Visteurs K2. I thoroughly enjoyed reading his first book, No Easy Way to the Top as well, and I'm particularly glad it was one of the first ones I read for his dogma of "safe ascents."
I suppose this is the book that sort of radicalized me against the recklessness in this sport. Of course, I am very well aware that some risks cannot be mitigated and this sport has inherent danger (as does everything) but good grief; the amount of stories of people pushing way beyond their limits and needing to be brought down in astonishing. Herzog's Annapurna is a great example; the whole crew ends up hospitalized after, and again, I get that any 8000er is an enormous undertaking, but a trip to the hospital should only be for trips that have gone horribly wrong; not as an inevitability after a reckless ascent.
As I've learned more about this sport, I've been able to cut through some of the fear mongering and stories of recklessness to an actual understanding of what scaling a mountain is. And, at this point, I'm pretty comfortable saying that a lot of these "legends" did it wrong. Ed is far more of a legend in my mind because he was very particular about risk mitigation and making the right call; that's why he's alive and came home to see his family. That is a successful mountaineer in my mind; one who knows their limits and doesn't try to make daring, dangerous ascent..
Those reckless ascents seem to be the ones that get promoted, though; a bivouwack at 8000m, a 24 hour climb to the summit through the night, a miraculous heli-evac that put every single persons life at risk. These are not the hero's; they are fools that often need to be saved by real hero's that put their own lives on the line to save fool's sorry-ass's.
And again, I get that you can take every safety measure and buy all the expensive gear and still find an early grave in the mountains; that's just the name of the game (really mortality as a whole.) That said, I think Visteur's No Easy Way to The Top is the most sane piece of media I've read so far on the topic, and I love his saying "Summiting is optional, coming down is mandatory." I wish that sentiment, and stories of turning around were the ones that were more often promoted. Then maybe my family wouldn't think I had a deathwish for getting into this game.
Does anyone have insight into the best water bottles for expeditions / prolonged winter camping / ski tours?
Nalgene seems common because most people might already own them. In the past Duesseldorf bottles were the gold standard, and I've owned them. I didn't see much of a difference, but I might have missed something.
Di you think there's a noticeable difference?
Can someone give an advice and maybe opnion what backpack is better. Cilogear I am looking 45 L because price cheaper and it possible extend to 75 liter HMG I think about models Porter, Halka or Ice pack
Trying to decide between the two boots. I plan on purchasing a lightly used pair.
What is the warmth comparison?
Most comfortable one?
Most durable?
Any other info would be great. There seems to be limited information about the Scarpa ones though
Title says it all! I'm a newer mountaineer looking for some opinions / advice before an upcoming trip. I've read all the relevant threads I can find as well.
Edit: my climb starts December 12, so a bit earlier in the season.
Down Parka - Rab Neutrino Pro - Is this enough for an outer layer down parka? I am planning to put a mid layer synthetic puffy (Rab Cirrus) and a micro grid fleece below it
Should I invest in a better midlayer puffy to layer more? Rent a down parka from the guiding company instead? Get a fleece that's not a microgrid to have as a warmer layer?
Double / Triple boots - I am planning to wear Scarpa 6000 double boots without an overboot. However, I've noticed that several guiding companies recommend triple boots. Should I adjust the plan?
Sleeping Bag - Feathered Friends Widgeon (-10F/-23C) - Again, is this enough? I will put a water proof bivvy bag outside of it to keep the in-tent condensation off of it, but it won't provide much/any insulation
Headlamp - Petzl Swift RL. Ok this one isn't so much a question of whether the gear is correct, but does anyone know how to get it into red light mode? Have just bought it a couple weeks ago to replace a weaker one and have scoured youtube/reddit/reviews and can't seem to crack the code. Maybe I can't afford to lose those brain cells at altitude after all....
Ice Axe - I have a Petzl Summit Evo, purchased for another climb. I'm 5'6" and have a 52 cm length, but the guiding company suggests 60cm....Do I need to address this? It's a bit short to use as a third leg / walking pole on light/moderate slopes, but I have trekking poles for that anyway. I was thinking it would be an appropriate length for higher grade slopes when I purchased it at the time.
Photos - What would you suggest to take a summit photo? I was thinking to take a fully charged phone, kept off during the rest of the trip then carried up next to my body on summit day. But I'm concerned that 1. touch screen is not the best even with compatible liners 2. the phone will not turn on due to cold. Is an old fashioned disposable the best way to go here?
Backpack - Did you bring a separate smaller backpack for the summit push? (apart from the 70+ liter main bag)
This question has bothered me for long -- partly because I have likely gotten wrong answers from my expedition company. I am doing the Vacas Valley 360 route, and have a personal porter who will carry 20 kg for me (from Base to Camp3, and down; we have carry-days to Camp 1 and 2). I was told that I may have to carry 3-5kg of "group gear". My questions.
Thanks. I'm focussed/hoping on minimal backpack weight -- so some confirmation will help. Thanks.
A group of my friends and i are trying to information gather for a New Years ascent up Katahdin most likely the Abol Trail because it is non-technical.
We are all thru hikers and lifelong campers. A few of us have indoor rock/ bouldering backgrounds. I have a glacier travel experience, experience in the alpine out in the PNW, and have climbed on ice once. None of us have any winter trekking experience.
Do you think that attempting a non-technical winter ascent without a guide is reasonable? Is avalanching a big deal thing in Baxter? Any recommendations on gear rentals?
Any other info is appreciated.
Hey guys,
im looking for a new sleeping bag with a limit-rating of -15°C to -25°C and as light as possible for a price around 400€ (can also be more expensive)...
So looked around and found sleeping bags like
- Rab Ascent 1100
- Rab Neutrino 800
- Mountain Equipment Glacier 700
- Therm-a-Rest Parsec
but i cannot decide which of these to buy or didnt find anything else...
So my question would be: Could you guys help me to decide between these or recommend me some of your trusted sleeping bags that i could take a look at?
What are your favorite cheap locations to stay for a month or two and focus on the peaks around.
Here are my favorites:
Huaraz, Peru
I've stayed here for months. Great access to so many peaks in the cordillera blanca and huayhuash. Cheap rooms and guides. The town is a bit too quiet socially. Gets boring between climbs.
Cusco, Peru
Great city and cheap. Access to some of the highest peaks of Peru. Less climbing culture here but so many glacieted mountains. Many have not been summited so a great place for fa attempts.
Santiago, Chile
Easy day or multiday trips into the Andes around. Aconcagua. As a city it's a bit dangerous and expensive for what you get.
Anchorage, Alaska
Have to stay in a tent to keep it cheap. Short summer season. Beautiful but expensive. Hard to get around without a car.
Monterrey, Mexico
No big peaks but access to potrero chico for rock climbing. Kinda expensive rent, polluted city.
Guatamala
Antigua and Quetzaltenango make good bases. Cheap and fun. Some "high" altitude non technical volcanos. I honestly hate dry volcanos now, pretty sure the dust destroyed 20% of my lung capacity.
Canadian rockies
Great place to live out of your car and climb and hike. Not possible without a car. Beautiful, but a bit lonely by yourself after a while. No great cities to use as a base.
Places I haven't tried yet:
La Paz, Bolivia
On my way here this year. Access to many 6k peaks. Cheap rent, cheap guides. Big city with lots to do.
Puebla, Mexico
Access to many volcanos, Izta, Orizaba. Cheap.
Skardu, Pakistan ?
Himachal Pradesh, India ?
The Alps I assume it's difficult and expensive to dirtbag around that part of Europe.
Anyone toured up to Camp Muir in the past week or two? Is it still rock ski season?
i live in the north carolina section of the appalachian mountains (completely already fucked ik) but just wondering if anyone would have any good spots in the appys to start rock climbing and or backpacking? i’m a young fit dude and every where i try to look just looks like a cake walk. (because it’s the appalachian mountains i know) complete shot in the dark for this sub but ill take whatever could be fun.
Referring to the technical capabilities of the axe, would something like a pair of petal sum’tecs or (more likely) DMM vertex’s be enough for my use?
I don’t really have a desire to climb anything much above Scottish winter grade III or alpine PD, and on the very odd occasion that I do can likely just rent gear.
So with that as the upper limit, and then probably a bunch of less technical climbs as well, is there any reason for me to consider going for some more technical axes and a separate walking axe, or will the aforementioned pairs cover all my needs?
Hi, I am 17M. I have been a scout all my life and have been camping for over 10 years. By camping, I mean sometimes I hiked up a very small local mountain and stayed near the summit or just camped in the forest and hiked to discover new routes or places to use the next time.
I am a good skier in my opinion and have been involved in winter sports for over 5 years. However, I have 0 knowledge about mountaineering and how to start winter mountaineering.
I'm looking for warm, full-length pants with full side zippers that I can quickly put on during breaks, similar to the Helly Hansen Lifaloft Insulator pants but full length. I'm having trouble finding anything that fits this description. Any suggestions or recommendations on where to look?
I recently delved into "Mountaineering: The Freedom of the Hills", and it has been nothing short of transformative. Over the course of 29 days, this book became more than just a guide—it felt like a mentor patiently teaching me the art, science, and philosophy of mountaineering.
From foundational techniques to advanced skills, the book covers everything:
Knot tying and rope management.
Navigating treacherous terrain.
Essential survival skills for extreme conditions.
The ethics and stewardship of the mountains.
It's no surprise that this masterpiece is often referred to as the "Bible of Mountaineering." The depth of knowledge and clarity it provides make it an indispensable read for both novices and seasoned climbers.
What struck me the most was its emphasis on safety and respect for nature, which aligns perfectly with my own values as an aspiring mountaineer. Every page felt like a step closer to understanding not just the technicalities of climbing but the spirit of adventure itself.
If you're a climber, trekker, or even just someone who dreams of summiting peaks, I can't recommend this book enough. It's a guide, an inspiration, and a humbling reminder of the grandeur of the mountains we aspire to conquer.
I'd love to hear your thoughts—has anyone else read this book? What were your biggest takeaways?
I've always been a fan of old school forums because of a wealth of knowledge there.
I also like magazines because the overall production quality is quite high.
Any recommendations?
In this post, I would like to share with you some history of the Alpinist Gaston Rébuffat and his vision of climbing The Six Great North Faces of the Alps. The information I gathered in this post is based on multiple internet sources, so if you see any inaccuracies or missing information, please let me know by sending a direct message.
For those unknown to the term North Face, it basically refers to the Northern side of a mountain, which receives the least, or no sunlight at all, of all faces on a day, assuming the mountain lies in the Northern Hemisphere. Due to being mostly in the shade, these faces are a lot colder and thus have a lot more potential to create and maintain a frozen layer between the rocks and/or create glaciers. This proces is also referred to as glaciation. This frozen layer keeps the mountain from falling apart, resulting in much steeper faces. These steep faces are as a result much harder to climb than the rumbled South faces and the cold and low amount of light doesn't soften the climbing conditions either.
Basically, the Six Great North Faces of the Alps consist of:
These North faces are generally considered to be one of the hardest North Faces in the Alps. Especially the Matterhorn, the Eiger, and the Grandes Jorasses are notorious for being extremely difficult and are also referred to as the North Face Trilogy.
As mentioned in the previous section, all of these North Faces were first ascend in the 1930's, back when climbing equipment was still relatively unreliable and people died quite regularly trying to accomplish these great feats. The name Mordwand or Murderwall on the Eiger really does it's name justice since more than 60 people have died on this face alone since 1938.
More than 20 years after the Matterhorn North Face was first ascend, the French Alpinist Gaston Rébuffat was the first person to ever climb all the Six Great North faces of the Alps, finalizing his climbs in 1952. Together with his team, he documented his journey in a film he published in 1954, which he called Etoiles et Tempêtes, roughly translating to Stars and Storms.
Gaston started climbing at age 14 and at age 17, in the summer of 1938, he made a first attempt at the North Face of the Grandes Jorasses, right after the first ascend by Cassin's team. Unfortunately, he was not successful due to poor weather conditions. It was only until 1945 before he tried again, and this time he succeeded with the assistance of Édouard Frendo. The following year, he successfully guided another mountaineer called René Mallieux op the North Face of Petit Dru. In 1948 he attempted Piz Badile together with another client, Bernard Pierre, and although they had to endure a harsh lightning storm, they reached the summit the following day. In 1949 he climbed the Matterhorn North Face twice, together with Raymond Simond and together with the Italian guide Gino Soldà, he climbed the Cima Grande di Laverdo in the Dolomites. The only challenge was the Eiger North Face.
On July 27, 1952, Gaston started his climb of the Eiger North Face together with Paul Habran, Guido Magnone, Pier Leroux, and Jean Brunaud. They made quick progress, but after the Hinterstoisser traverse, the progress slowed down at the Ice Hose, right underneath the Karl Max Bivouac. This was due to another team consisting of Hermann Buhl and Sepp Jochler moving considerably slower than Gaston's team and not letting them pass easily. This however didn't stop Gaston and his companions and at 6 o'clock in the afternoon, 2 days after they started climbing, they successfully reached the summit.
Gaston climbed many other great mountains until he passed away in 1985 due to cancer. He has a record of over 1200 climb graded the difficulty level D or higher. Although he never got further than high school, he became a foremost mountaineering writer and editor at the Alpinism column in the Paris Daily, Le Monde. He also directed other movies, apart Etoiles et Tempêtes, like Flammes De Pierres and Les Horizons Gagnés. But above being a great climber, many also saw him as an extraordinary human and great family man.
Many great alpinists have climbed the Six Great North Faces since Gaston. Most noticeably Leo Schlömmer who was the first one to do them in one year, Tom Ballard being the first one to climb them all solo in one winter and Dani Arnold who has the record of having the fastest solo ascend time (with currently the exception of the Eiger North Face, which Ueli Steck broke a couple years after Dani set the record in 2015).
Six North Faces of the Alps: Matterhorn - Glenmore Lodge
UKC Articles - The Six Classic North Faces Of The Alps
The North Faces of the Alps - Jussi Haikka
AAC Publications - Gaston Rébuffat, 1921-1985
Gaston Rébuffat: Poet of the summits and exceptional mountaineer
Hey all,
I’m heading to Aconcagua soon, and was wondering if anyone had any recs on what kind of chargers you guys use to charge up your phone etc. during longer periods on the mountain.
Last time i was on a longer hike, I had brought a bunch of charging banks but it weighed my bag down a LOT, so trying to find an alternative this time.
Whitehorse Mountain making a cameo in 1983’s Wargames.
Hello Have a trip planned for fort william at the end of JAN we have general winter hiking experiance and are trad climbers (vdiff/S) with a rack but have not done winter climbing.
I was looking at loactions like No4 gully and wanted to know if snow stakes or ice screws would be required. we have crampons ice axes helmets and dry ropes. I know some people don't use protection for gullys but being our first steep outing in the snow want to play it safe.
Any advice on kit regarding the climbing/mountaneering side is appriciated.