/r/modernart

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This subreddit is for modernist art, roughly 1860-1980. Visual, written, audio, architecture, all of it is valid. It is not for contemporary art made after the modernist period.

NEW HOME OF THE SUBREDDIT: https://lemmy.ml/c/modernism

With reddit going public, this website will rapidly degrade in quality. Lemmy is a decentralised alternative which is essentially like subreddits having their own sub-subreddits and being able to freely federate with each other. It is a better model immune to the things which have ruined this website.

Modernism, in the fine arts, a break with the past and the concurrent search for new forms of expression. Modernism fostered a period of experimentation in the arts from the late 19th to the mid-20th century, particularly in the years following World War I.

In an era characterized by industrialization, rapid social change, and advances in science and the social sciences (e.g., Freudian theory), Modernists felt a growing alienation incompatible with Victorian morality, optimism, and convention. New ideas in psychology, philosophy, and political theory kindled a search for new modes of expression.

This subreddit is for modern art, roughly 1860-1980. Visual, written, audio, architecture, all of it is valid. IT IS NOT FOR POSTMODERN OR CONTEMPORARY ART AND THOSE POSTS WILL BE REMOVED.

Rules:

  • NO SELF-PROMOTION. This is not a contemporary art subreddit. /r/IDAP and /r/art allow these submissions. r/Art also has a list of all art-related subreddits to post where it will get the best reception.

  • Posts must be tagged with the movement in the title. This makes it easy for people who aren't familiar with that movement to explore it more. For example, "Henri Rousseau - The Dream (1910) [Post-Impressionism]"

  • If you post a picture, please include some background along with it, either in the comments or in the subtext of a self-post. This discourages content farming.

  • Self-posts and questions are allowed, but please expand upon them in the subtext of the post.

  • Most if not all bans are permanent. Shrug emoji 100 emoji.


Related subreddits: (only featuring ones that try to stick to the actual period rather than contemporary work in an older style)

/r/modernart

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How to find modern art?

I am finally getting a place of my own (well with my wife) and wanting to find some modern art for the new place and home office. Probably small art or paintings in the $300-$1,500 USD range.

I found one artist I like that does paintings, but is always sold out.

Where or how can I start to find modern or abstract art and artists?

Any advice or suggestions on how to get started would be appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

8 Comments
2024/04/01
22:47 UTC

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I got this from some other guy, but I have sum to say.

Why is it that throughout the last, let’s say four decades, people have shifted their views from focusing on the main point of art, the artwork, to how the viewer interprets the piece? It’s like the art doesn’t matter anymore, and people just sell it for money, mocking the poor. This may be a known thing and all, but I don’t get it. Downvote me if you want, barely anyone here makes much sense.

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2024/03/29
18:16 UTC

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As reddit becomes worse, this subreddit is migrating to lemmy.ml/c/modernism

For years now reddit has been on a downward trajectory in terms of its usability, community, censorship, and ideological recuperation. Last year's mod protests showed that reddit as a centralised platform has core issues as a result of that centralisation, and with the looming IPO launch the shareholder pressures on reddit will continue to make this website worse. Already it's an unrecognisable shell of the one I joined in 2009, come 2025 it's Digg but with more bots.

Modernism is very important to me and I think learning that history will do a lot for current people questioning the world around us. These were the same animal responding to similar stressors and trying to build a lost future in response. The working class cultural language of that future and how it radically deconstructs the cultural language of societal elites is an incredibly useful weapon. Today we see the naive resurgence of dada in the dirtbag left, of art nouveau in aesthetics like goblincore/cottagecore, and post-WW2 architecture influencing new urbanism. These aren't just historical curiosities or pretty paintings, but acts of revolt against the world before them and a blueprint for how to revolt against a similar world after them. They lost the fight but that doesn't mean these movements are a dead-end confined to some specific year. Intellectually they're still threads to chase and expand on.

So while I'm happy to lose reddit- as you can see I've not even bothered posting on the site in almost a year- I don't want to lose the one focused community I know of for this period of art. There should be a collected resource for people wanting to know and learn from a history otherwise so obscure that most of the posts here- removed and permabanned like all the warnings say- don't even know what modern art is.

If you aren't already familiar with it, Lemmy is that alternative. It's the same idea as reddit, but there is no Reddit Inc tying it all together. Instead each subreddit analogue has its own ecosystem of sub-subreddits. That community chooses to stay federated with others, so if federated you're seeing the feeds of those too. If defederated for toxicity or spam, that community is still its own Web 1.0 forum. It allows for greater democracy and with no Reddit Inc there is nobody to ratfuck it in the name of profit.

I've been on Lemmy for three years now with the Hexbear instance and it's all the things I liked about this website in 2009 with none of the toxic elements that have developed since. It's not gamified, you're not supporting communities you disagree with by being on the same servers, spam is dealt with quickly and the users have unions.

Going forward I'm still going to remove spam posts here when I see them because it irks me, but this website is a dead end and I'm not going to bother with it. Instead I'm restarting it on Lemmy.ml/c/modernism. Lemmy.ml is one of the largest and most inclusive communities on the "Fediverse" of Lemmy instances and it allows for me to make my own sub-subreddit. It'll be slow at first but I'll be posting over the next few weeks to get it going.

I think the core idea of what I wanted to do here is still something worth probing more. Deeper posts on the socio- and geopolitical context, of the philosophy of those artists and why those ideas were important to them, and of the lessons it has for cyclic history are going to be the focus. There will still be no self-promotion or post-1980ish art.

You're welcome to join there if you'd like. This place will linger but I hate what this website became. We can do so much better without a corporation making things worse for profit and farming our data for the large language models that threaten our jobs. Lemmy's the best candidate for that with the closest experience to reddit.

Bye everyone else. If not there, jump ship to somewhere else. Legacy platforms like this, facebook, and twitter are all autocannibalising.

TL;DR- reddit is structurally bad, it's going to get worse as a public company, join lemmy.ml/c/modernism if you want because its structure prevents many of the things that have got us to this point.

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2024/03/23
18:53 UTC

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Why Modern Art Is a Scam and Lacks Any Real Talent

As an art enthusiast, I've found myself increasingly disillusioned with the state of modern art. It seems that these days, anything can pass off as art, regardless of its lack of skill or meaning. Here are a few reasons why I believe modern art is more of a scam than a legitimate form of artistic expression:

  1. Lack of Skill: One of the fundamental principles of art is mastery of technique. However, modern art often seems to prioritize shock value over skill. Splattering paint on a canvas or arranging random objects in a gallery does not require the same level of technical proficiency as classical painting or sculpture.
  2. Subjective Interpretations: While art is inherently subjective, modern art takes subjectivity to an extreme. Often, pieces are so abstract or nonsensical that viewers are left grasping for meaning. This ambiguity allows artists to pass off laziness or incompetence as intentional artistic choices.
  3. Commercialization: Modern art has become more about marketing and brand recognition than genuine creativity. Galleries and collectors often inflate the value of artworks based on the artist's reputation rather than the quality of the work itself. This commodification of art undermines its integrity and perpetuates the idea that art is merely a status symbol for the wealthy elite.
  4. Lack of Innovation: True artistic innovation involves pushing boundaries and challenging norms. However, much of modern art feels derivative and uninspired. Artists frequently recycle tired tropes and gimmicks, resulting in a homogenized art world devoid of genuine originality.
  5. Disconnect from Society: Modern art often feels disconnected from the human experience and fails to resonate with audiences on a meaningful level. Instead of sparking thought-provoking discussions or eliciting emotional responses, many contemporary artworks leave viewers feeling confused or indifferent.

In conclusion, modern art's emphasis on shock value, lack of technical skill, and commercialization have led me to view it as more of a scam than a legitimate form of artistic expression. While there are undoubtedly talented contemporary artists pushing the boundaries of creativity, they are overshadowed by the proliferation of mediocre and pretentious works that dominate the modern art scene.

What are your thoughts on modern art? Do you agree that it lacks real talent, or do you believe it represents a legitimate evolution of artistic expression? Let's discuss.

5 Comments
2024/03/11
07:21 UTC

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I have 3 original abstract art works oil paintings by Ron Kempton looking for a good marketplace to sell them.

Tried eBay and Facebook marketplace so far but only people who showed any interest have been scammers. Need to shift as taking up too much space. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated 🙏

4 Comments
2024/01/29
13:32 UTC

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Tips how to educate myself

I am very interested in 1960-1990’s art, what are some of the articles and documentaries i can read/watch to learn more?

0 Comments
2024/01/23
19:40 UTC

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How popular is James Ensor in your country?

Hey there,

I don't know how concentrated this community is geogrpahically but I was wondering (from your point of view) how well known James Ensor is in your country of residence? (can be any country)

If you don't know him then that's a valid answer as well :D

Thanks!

0 Comments
2024/01/21
00:36 UTC

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Why was the Bauhaus so influential?

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2023/12/26
18:05 UTC

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We're also doing the blackout along with my other subreddits. Fuck 'em.

It's slated to go from 12-14 June if the demands aren't met. Those demands are completely reasonable because reddit's stupid profit-seeking is at the expense of the moderators who run their website without pay and the users who generate all of its value. Reddit's response to those demands is insane. If not we'll be continuing indefinitely. The more pressure there is on reddit before their IPO launch, the more it's a fun Succession episode against one of the most toxic places online and the people who made it that way.

3 Comments
2023/06/11
04:42 UTC

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An overview of the art of John William Waterhouse (1849-1917)

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2023/06/09
14:00 UTC

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[Discussion] Seeking Workshop Venue with Modern Art Flair in Switzerland or generally Europe!

Hi!

I'm currently on the hunt for the perfect workshop venue, and I thought who better to ask for suggestions than the diverse and knowledgeable community here on Reddit! I'm looking for a place in Switzerland or anywhere else in Europe that exudes a "modern art" vibe, be it a museum, castle, or any other artsy location.

Here are the specifics:

  1. Capacity: The venue should be able to comfortably accommodate around 30 people. We'll be engaging in presentations and various activities throughout the workshop, so a spacious setting is essential.
  2. Duration: The workshop is set to span two and a half days, so the venue needs to be available for this duration. It would be fantastic if there are separate spaces for the presentations and breakout sessions.
  3. Location: Ideally, the venue would be situated in Switzerland or somewhere else in Europe, making it easily accessible for participants coming from different parts of the continent.
  4. Modern Art Flair: We're aiming for a location that exudes a modern art flair. This could be in the form of a modern art museum with captivating exhibits or a futuristic architectural gem that will leave our attendees in awe. We want the venue to inspire creativity and stimulate innovative thinking.

I believe that combining art and learning can spark a unique and enriching experience for all participants. It's incredible how the environment we're in can impact our productivity and imagination. So, I'm excited to hear your suggestions!

If you know of any museums, castles, or other artsy venues that tick these boxes, please drop their names and any additional details. Personal anecdotes or experiences related to the venues are also highly appreciated!

Thank you all in advance for your valuable input. I'm looking forward to your suggestions, and I'm confident that together, we can find the perfect workshop location with a modern art twist.

Cheers! :)

0 Comments
2023/06/05
08:30 UTC

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