/r/meatogains
A place for people to discuss the implications of zero-carb/meat-only/carnivorous diets on training, strength and fitness. If you are interested in keto-cupcakes, fat-bombs or pea-protein shakes, look elsewhere.
FAQ:
Q: Bro, how can you build muscle without carbs?
A: A carnivorous diet consists of mainly:
1. Muscle: Not surprisingly, this contains all of the building materials required to make muscle.
2. Fat: This is the most energy dense fuel that humans can consume.
How can a mammal not gain muscle with these components and an adequate stimulus? If you think that muscle gain requires carbs, go find a wolf, punch it in the face, and then tell me how weak it is.
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Hello everyone, I'm new here. I have been struggling with digestive issues for a while, likely due to irritable bowel syndrome. Despite many years passing, I haven't been able to find a solution or the root cause. As a bodybuilder, I consume large amounts of rice and fruits daily. However, my gastrointestinal problems persist, affecting my daily life and training performance.
I am considering trying the carnivore diet to see if it can help with my irritable bowel syndrome. I've been following it for a few days now, and I have noticed some improvements in my digestion. However, I feel very hungry. I'm not sure if it's because I'm still adjusting or for another reason. Despite being in a caloric surplus, I still feel hungry. Is this normal? Additionally, I'm concerned about how this diet may impact my athletic performance. I know that carbohydrates are the primary source of energy during exercise. Can the body rely on fats for energy if no carbohydrates are consumed? Do you have any advice or insights on this? Thank you!
Hi I'm 14 (5,5) 135lbs and I wanted to ask questions for athletes of 2 types the 1st question is for calisthenic athlete because I have been training calisthenics for 1.5 years along with running and I wanted to ask if any calisthenic athletes or just doing it do this diet and is it better for calisthenics because it mostly makes you leaner and for the 2nd question for runners do you get clean and steady Pr,s and do you feel better running because stable energy?
Heart Rate Variability and Resting Heart Rate
Im 41male, consider myself very fit, lean. Been eating carnivore strict for 6months, i feel great, like superman.
I used to eat like ”most fitness folks”, with carbs
My HRV was always around 65+ and RHR below 50. Since beginning carnivore and all the way to today, both those scores worsened.
Its now 30-40 hrv and 55+ RHR
Some might say whats the problem? But, i am wondering quite abit about this.
Any ideas?
Going to start Omad with just beef and water this week. Any tips, gems, input y’all can give your boy?
I'm on beef, salt, and water. I'm effortlessly lean with this diet even if I eat to full satiety. I would like to see if I can bring it to the next level and go from lean to more shredded (I have a lot of muscle mass already).
The most intuitive approach seems to be to eat less fat. But I could also think of arguments for increasing fat intake. Fat is satiating, which in turn makes me less hungry for muscle meat.
What macros would you recommend? 2g/kg protein and how much fat?
I hope this is a suitable forum to ask.
So, i love the carnivore diet and i've been doing it for some time now. However, i am not a role model when it comes to the diet, as i fall out of ketosis about once a week. Kinda bad to admit, but i like to go out for some beers once a week. I'm curious to if there can be any serious down sides, or rather something with the diet that could be dangerous if one falls off and out of ketosis once a week?
As a side note, i dont feel bad in any way when i exceed 100 grams of carbs a week and fall off. I feel very healthy and i am 5.10 at around 163 lbs with about 11% bf.
Thanks for any replies!
Hey everyone,
I'm an 18-year-old woman, standing at 4'11" and weighing 110 pounds. I've been on a journey to gain muscle and get leaner. For the past month, I've been walking 10,000 steps a day, and just last week, I started lifting weights. However, I'm feeling a bit lost and could use some advice.
According to people and the TDEE calculator, I should be eating around 1,300 calories to lose weight. I've been eating about 80 grams of protein daily to help build muscle, but I'm struggling to hit my calorie goals. Previously, I was eating under 1,200 calories, but I realized that wasn't sustainable.
I'm reaching out to this community for help. How much should I really be eating to gain muscle and lose fat? Any tips on how to increase my calorie intake in a healthy way would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
If i work out in the morning, i will have a steak or a bunch of eggs after it just as my breakfast. But if i work out in the afternoon, it may not be meal time. what do you all recommend? is a post workout fueling necessary?
Where do you buy your grass fed and finished beef from? Who has the best quality for grass fed and finished beef in your view? Any recommendations or not so great experiences?
Does the amount of calories matter if im not eating any carbs? As far as over eating? I’m still hitting my protein goal, lifting and cardio 5 days a week.
I had 2 instances of feeling grass like taste while eating beef. They also gave me a lot of gas. One of these was grass fed&finished New Zealand beef. The other one was grass fed&finished Argentinian beef.
I've ate 100s of kg of grass fed&finished beef usually local US/Canada based, and didn't have this in any of them except these 2 instances. What could be going on in this situation?
Here is ChatGPT's answer:
The grass-like taste and increased gas you experienced with the New Zealand and Argentinian beef, compared to the US/Canada based grass-fed beef, might be due to several factors:
Diet Differences: The grass in different regions contains varying types of flora, which can affect the flavor of the beef. For example, certain types of grass or herbs prevalent in New Zealand and Argentina might not be common in North America.
Gut Flora of Cattle: The gut microbiome of cattle can vary based on the grass and environment they are exposed to. This variation can influence the digestion process and potentially the flavor of the beef.
Processing and Storage: Differences in meat processing, packaging, and storage between countries might affect the flavor. Sometimes, changes in pH levels during storage or packaging could alter taste and digestion.
Your Digestion: It's possible that your digestive system reacts differently to specific compounds present in beef from these regions, which might not be prevalent in North American beef. This could explain the unusual gas production.
If you continue to notice these issues, you might consider sticking with beef sources that you know are agreeable with your system, or slowly reintroducing the international varieties to see if the reaction persists.
So im a strict carnivore. Which i like a lot. Dont know why really, its very nutrientdense i guess. Adding like 4-500ml milk few hours before gym im thinking?
Do you guys drink milk? I cant get unpasteirized, but 4.5% fat with not much pasteurizing
So im a gymnerd like most here. push/pull/legs 6 days a week and also bike where i need to go.
Anyone similar here that feels keto is just as good once fully adapted?
Im just 7 weeks in, and gym performance is not bad, but not what it used to be.
Will this change? Or should i try TKD or CKD etc for max performance?
I feel great btw, apart from gym not being back to 100% and this frustrating headache most days that im troubleshooting.
Cheers
Edit: im strict carnivore btw, eating like 70/30 fat/prot. 41 male 184cm 76kg low bodyfat
I'm thinking about transitioning from a 'normal' diet to a carnivore diet because I can't bear my skin itching anymore.
I've started doing some math, and I feel like I'll be hungry. In my diet plan, should I keep the same calorie intake in my daily consumption?
Currently, I'm (M) 66 kg/145 lbs, and my intake is around 2500 kcal (I've been maintaining this for a while).
How much should I eat? I've read that I need around 150-200 g of protein. If I target my intake to 210 g of protein, I'll be eating in weight about half of what I currently eat.
Is that right? Any tips or calculations?
Hi All, I just wanted some opinions. I started carnivore about two weeks ago and loving so it far. I went from constantly craving sugar, to no cravings at all and dropped about 2kgs. I’ve had absolutely no issues with IBS for the first time in years. It’s incredible.
I’m quite into bodybuilding and want to compete in icn in bikini in about 4 months (Australia). My understanding about nutrition and training is rock solid, and I’ve done a prep before on a meal plan with a coach (comp cancelled bc 2020 lol). This time however, I’m not getting a coach due to saving for a mortgage/wedding and the difficulty in finding one with experience/support of the carnivore diet. I’m not competing to win (this time), just for the experience. Is it feasible to comp prep on carnivore? I’m noticing I’m not getting a ‘pump’ at the gym when training and don’t know if that’ll impact my overall ability to retain muscle/lean out to comp standard.
My overall plan is to track my macros, aiming for a 65/35 ish split of fat to protein, with pretty much just beef mince, eggs and butter. Maybe some bacon and steaks on weekends. I’ll track my weight and measurements, and if it’s not trending down, I’ll drop overall calories and continue to monitor. I’m taking magnesium and a multivitamin. I used to take creatine, should I take it to supplement? My endurance with lifting has pretty drastically decreased and I’m pretty sore all the time. I did have one thought that I could have an apple preworkout, not carnivore I know, but that could help with training? I’m not sure! Any advice or experience is appreciated! Thanks!
So, I recently eliminated dairy on a whim and all of a sudden got the desire to exercise and have been for about a month so this is the first time I've been interested in asking such a question:
I thought it'd be interesting to see if I could get lean for the first time ever. Is it just a case of cutting fat?
At the moment I'm 5ft7 and 147 pounds and i can see the rough oitside outline of my abs in the mirror.
Been doing 95% Carnivore for over 4 years.
If I eat to satiety then I get through 270g protein from beef and eggs (~700g steak +7eggs) along with about 35g added animal fat and I've nearly always got some aching muscles on the go from the various calisthenics I'm doing.
So, if I'm to adhere to the 1g protein to weight rule then I'm currently way overeating for the 147g that I'm currently aiming to maintain with my 270g daily intake. I guess I must be using a lot of energy?
This daily intake doesn't last me much more than a day either. If I leave it much more over 24hrs then I get cold hands and feet and exercise can make me feel lightheaded.
So what's the best strategy to loose more body fat then? Eat less protein or cut the fat?
Also, if i loose satiety from doing so then should I expect to be fighting hunger to achieve my goal?
Does anyone know of a good Beef/Beef organs protein powder? Most common protein powders out there are whey based, and the beef ones I've found contain sweeteners or other unwanted stuff.
Protein shake has always been a very effective way to get in an extra meal, specially when I'm traveling, but having trouble finding a clean one that's carnivore/animal based compatible.
Do you guys find high cholesterol concerning? Whatever side you're on I'm curious about your reasoning. Do you personally get your cholesterol checked on a regular basis? Do you talk to you doctor about it and what do they say? I've been looking at going 100% carnivore for awhile now but never pulled the trigger for this reason.
Have any of you guys tried both carnivore only and carnivore with a mix of fruit? How does it compare?
So I’m gearing up to start Carnivore.. I’ve done keto in the past and I’m wanting it to clear up a couple health issues and see if it works for me.
My question is about protein, how do you get enough while keeping dairy low?
I’m 295 6’3 and based on my TDEE (from a deca scan ) it’s about 4200 calories a day. I’m wanting to try for around 250 grams minimum. My fear is I’m not gunna be able to put down that much food and definitely not in I.F. It seems like chicken isn’t really high on people’s eat list for carnivore.
My fear is losing muscles on this and not maximizing my current training.
Also HTF are people cooking their organ meats? I feel like MAYBE I can put down some chicken livers if I add a stick of butter and eat fast but it just doesn’t seem appealing.
So I have an issue that anytime I eat anything I get brain fog and/or depression. I know it’s not blood sugar based because I’ve tested it. I’m pretty sure my stomach is trashed because I’ve been through this before and “cured” it with carnivore. I just wasn’t able to maintain it long term due to it cranking my nervous system up to much, I need carbs to relax. Has anyone on here had good luck with the meat and fruit diet for mental health (cognition and mood)?
Dude, totally had my mind blown when I figured out I was scarfing down, like, 2400 calories of brisket every day, not the chill 1200 I was vibing with. I was all stoked, thinking I was doing the righteous thing, divvying up my brisket into 100g bites for the meals, believing each was just about 200 calories and loaded with a gnarly 30g of protein. Turns out, it's more like 400 calories and only about 22g of protein. And, you know, I never bother trimming the fat off my brisket before smoking it, which totally ramps up those calorie counts.
Here’s the lowdown:
Total bummer realizing the reason I wasn’t freaking from hunger is 'cause I was barely hitting that deficit, man. Now it clicks why going over my "limit" didn’t lead to dropping weight.
Guess it's time to switch up the meats I’m smoking and munching on, aiming for the ones that are more on the lean side. Gonna miss the simplicity and rad taste of those brisket sessions. But hey, if shaking things up keeps me cruising on that weight loss wave, I’m all for tweaking the eats.
Currently I’m eating brisket. 100g of brisket has 30g of protein. It’s about 200 calories. I eat it and feel satiated for 2-4 hours. I figure I can get through the whole day like this and end up at 1200 calories or so. Talk about a deficit
On days where I work out (I take a rest day every 4 days or so, PPL split), I’ll still eat closer to 200g of meat when I get back from the gym, or even close to 300g if I’m ravenous.
But it seems like overall, simply eating 100g of brisket is enough to keep me alright for several hours. Obviously I’m trying to lose weight right now. If I wasn’t, I’d eat more.
Hello all,
I am looking to start the carnivore diet to see if my body responds well to it. I am 437lbs and 5'9. I am not new to the workout scene so the working out part i am good with. The hesitation for me is how to start, the correct macros or how much to eat and supplements i need so that i am getting my nutrients still. Any advice, suggestions or guidance is greatly appreciated.
I was doing 5x5's at the gym when I was eating carbs. My strength was increasing as time went by. But how do you gain muscle this way on carnivore with no carbs?? I didn't think you could do weightlifting without glycogen
I’ve seen quite a few people on here say that dairy is helpful for bulking. I’d like to be able to eat dairy products but I can’t due to my eosinophilic esophagitis, which essentially can make my throat swell whenever I consume milk proteins. So, I was wondering if anyone knows if raw dairy would be tolerable with this condition. For the record, I’m not on carnivore, at least not yet. Perhaps going carnivore would resolve the condition by itself, but I’m interested in hearing everyone’s thoughts regardless.