I have lost faith in my country’s government to preserve our liberty, and I feel as though policies will only get more authoritarian as time goes on. I feel neither left or right libertarians will have a place in United States politics. Even if we bought land and tried to form libertarian communities together, we would eventually be labeled as terrorists, and the media would do they’re best to convince the public libertarianism is a dangerous ideology.

They would plant fake evidence of weapons and plans to attack government buildings and officials, and use these claims to push for more gun control and surveillance, threatening our ability to defend ourselves.

I want to believe in a brighter, more free future, but I just don’t see it. Voting doesn’t do shit. So here’s my question. How do you all envision we can preserve our rights and form libertarian communities, rejecting the unconstitutional system we live under now?

Most people (at least in the West) take for granted the dominant European model of sovereign states representing particular national communities. The nation-state is so entrenched today, many people don't realize other models of political organization are possible.

Do you think nation-states can be changed to become more ethical and free? Or is there a better way?

I'm not good at it. I apologize for some super sarcastic and deadpan posts I've made, I can absolutely see how one would take them poorly. I got a huge kick out of Dyson's post where he explains why nobody is libertarian, and just was trying to inject a bit of siliness of my own.

Because ultimately, while I try to keep myself educated on economics and other practicalities(lots of folks here are wayyyyy more knowledgable), it's not what drives my personal ideology.

I basically just want to put my back into a world that values freedom more. I don't like a lot of what I see in our current society. Being good to and cooperating with others is just common sense to me. I kinda push for the idea that it really can be that simple, which is why I really like the concept of unity between libertarians.

I also like being challenged on the particulars. I like being forced to evaluate the real life applications. This is a good sub for that.

Libertarians of various flavors will just never get along. A bunch of dead guys already made all the sub-genres and the rest is set in stone. We may even be practically in agreement, but alas the theory, it cannot be denied! So say a bunch of dead outsiders and failed revolutionaries from like 5 countries.

edit: Just for clarification I was indeed trying to be sarcastic. I think strict adherence to ideological dogma is stupid and anti-unity and many of the original philosophies aren't even up to date for modern society. That is all!

I apologize to people who thought I was trying to stir some shit up or promote defeatism.

doesnt matter what the ideology is lol ill do it

separated between Americans + Canadians and non-Americans because Americans have drastically different definitions of neoliberalism compared to us (I mean we all do but...).

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what an asshole, finally hopefully he can stop karma farming. on here and other subreddits.

We’re both “libertarians”, according to our own definitions of the term.

But neither left-libertarians nor right-libertarians actually qualify as “libertarian” at all, according to each other’s definition.

See, the fundamental issue is that right-libertarianism is based on a non-aggression principle, and left-libertarianism is based on a non-coercion principle.

Anarcho-capitalists oppose taxation because taxation is an initiation of force.

But left-anarchists oppose taxation because taxation is coercive, and imposed upon the taxpayer against their will.

Force and coercion are distinct concepts.

Force can exist without coercion, and vice versa.

Force is a physical concept, coercion is a psychological concept.

There is a difference between shooting someone and taking their money, vs threatening to shoot someone if they don’t give their money by choice.

The first is force, the second is coercion, which in this case is using the threat of force.

But coercion can be entirely non-violent.

Sextortion scams which blackmail people into giving up their money under the threat of their nudes being leaked, require absolutely no physical force at all to extract compliance.

Hopefully this post clears up some of the confusion as to who the “real libertarians” are.

We’re both libertarian, but we’re using different definitions of the word.

I think people forget how much libertarianism by nature is not rigid compared to other political ideologies. Plans for a path forward don't have to be perfectly worked out. If we can find some common ground and remove even some minor elements of big government, we can call that a victory, but it doesn't have to be seen as the final victory. We aren't searching for control, we just want a better life, more personal freedom, and more room to prosper. This is an eternal goal. There will always be something more to strive towards.

More authoritarian styles of government need everything to lock in place just right to "work." But we have the ability to work in the opposite direction. We take what we have to work with now, and get rid of what we don't need.

Librights have snakes and liblefts have cats but I've noticed that libertarian unity doesn't really have a mascot on its own. What do you guys think a mascot could be?

Should the US continue to fund Israel's war on Gaza?

The Libertarian Party and the Green Party, the two biggest 3rd parties in the US, agree that the US government should stop funding Israel. Their approaches are different - the LP is more isolationist, whereas the Green Party explicitly supports Gaza. However, both parties want to stop giving Israel military and economic aid.

The Libertarian Party platform says "American foreign policy should emphasize peace with all nations, entangling alliances with none. We would end the current U.S. government policies of foreign intervention including military and economic aid."

The Green Party platform says "We call on the U.S. President and Congress to suspend all military and foreign aid, including loans and grants, to Israel until Israel withdraws from the Occupied Territories, dismantles the separation wall in the Occupied West Bank including East Jerusalem, ends its siege of Gaza and dismantles settler colonies and systemic apartheid toward its non-Jewish citizens."

With Biden facing major pushback for his handling of Israel's war on Gaza, 3rd parties could see a surge of support this year. I think the Green Party will benefit the most, because many of Israel's critics are on the left. However, the Libertarian Party could also benefit.

How would you describe your economics and how would they be implemented under Anarchism

How would you describe your economics and how would they be implemented under Anarchism

How would you describe your economics and how would they be implemented under Anarchism

(Except Snoo, because he's a wanker)

Used to be a decent sub, but ever since it was reopened, it's just reposts from arr lolbertarian and similar. Did the mods change?

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"We all stand together" by Paul McCartney seems like the perfect lib unity anthem. The songs message of standing together and moving as one just seems very Lib Unity to me particularly the line

"Play the Game, fight the fight, but what's the point on a beautiful night"

Who cares about this stupid Left wing Right wing buffalo chicken wings with extra garlic mayo dip with fries and a lucozade on the side nonsense, there's no point,

A fantasy I've always had is after we all topple the government we all get together and sing the song, that sounds lovely to me.

Idk what you'd all think