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This thread kinda attacked me, want to know what you guys think about the various points and counterpoints.

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It’s a shame this page doesn’t have more followers. I think if Christ believed in anything it was peace and that’s exactly what libertarians stand for.

But I’m curious - what denomination do most of you come from? What denomination do y’all think most aligns with libertarianism?

I grew up Presbyterian (PCUS) and realize there are many influences Presbyterians have on the American Revolution (many of the founding fathers were Presbyterian) and it seems to be one of the more relaxed denominations, although from experience I know PCUSA at the national level advocates for left-wing authoritarianism. I have also read Calvin and found some things I disagree with so though I’m Presbyterian influenced, I don’t know if I can still consider myself wholeheartedly Presbyterian.

So my church is having a series of forums about life and living in our area and how we as believers live in the world around us. This coming one is pointed at the subject of politics. We in the audience can advance submit or live text questions into the forum. I have a few of my own but I was wondering if anyone had a few suggested pointed questions that would point at the biblical foundations of liberty principles such as individualism, property, consent, non-violence, etc. I'm hoping to submit a lot and expose the attendees to some questions that might derail their standard jesus-was-a-socialist leanings or Uber conservatism.

Thanks!

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So, I've realized that over the years many respected theologians (many of which I love) have dug in their heels about the government. Some of them on more arbitrary ideas, some on key political issues. Over the past few years (the years I've been libertarian) I've seen these arguments, and I'd love to hear what you guys would have to say to them. FYI, I'm a libertarian, but I like to be a "devil's advocate." Here they are:

1. God instituted government in the Old Testament, therefore it must be good!
2. God doesn't say government is bad, but that people in government are bad; ergo government is not the problem.
3. Paul argues that government is good because he would have told Christians to disobey government in one of the most persecuted periods in history (era of Nero), yet Paul never did.
4. There are prayers in the Bible to nations and people groups and the good that they do, ergo government is good.
5. America was started as a Christian nation; we shouldn't get rid of government, but get rid of secular humanism.
6. God instituted a Theocracy to prove that government was necessary in the world.
7. Our rights and privileges are given to us by God through the government. Without the government, we have no rights and privileges that God has ordained.
8. As long as the government doesn't make you commit a sin against God, then you should support government.
9. How otherwise is God supposed to maintain order and protect lives without bigger/limited government?

Most of these have inherent logical fallacies, so I'd like to know what you guys think if you were even to grant the premise. Thanks! Looking forward to this one.

My main motivation for investigating the philosophy of Libertarianism stems from a desire to follow The Gospel.
Since The Gospel doesn't explicitly lay out a method of governing, we (as Christians) are left to come up with a method that most closely represents the ideals of The Gospel.
Since the enforcement of taxation requires the use of violence, clearly we are not to advocate it's use.

Help me think this out and challenge my understanding.