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Could P Diddy be charged for the murder of Tupac ?

If you don’t know Keffe D is going on trial in November of this year for the murder of Tupac back in 96

While Keffe D was in the car and apart of the shooting it was his nephew Orlando Anderson pulled the trigger

Anderson was shot and killed years ago

Keffe d has told police and always claimed that P Diddy offered a bounty of 1 million dollars to shoot Tupac and sug knight but never paid him

If he is convicted or pleads guilty and admits in court “p Diddy offered me money” could Diddy be charged ?

2 Comments
2024/05/16
04:26 UTC

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Is this illegal?

At a rest stop, there was a group of teenage boys huddled around a vending machine. I was trying to get 2-3 sodas for me and my friends. The boys step aside and I scan my card. When I’m picking out my drinks, one of the reaches their hands and starts randomly pressing buttons. Fortunately, I am able to freeze my bank account in a matter of seconds, so I didn’t get charged but I saw them do it to another guy and they drained his account. Should they be in trouble?

1 Comment
2024/05/16
04:21 UTC

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Instagram leaked my identity

so I usually share reels with some discord friends,

shared one today and one sent me a message and a screenshot saying insta leaked me... the screenshot is the reel and a modal on top of it saying "sub94 has shared this Reel with you"

This has NEVER happened to me before, workflow was open reel, share, copy link, paste into discord

is there any legal recourse for this that I can take up on my end? this has to be a breach of privacy of some sort

1 Comment
2024/05/16
04:10 UTC

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Is it fraudulent to use and sign a legal document with your middle name as your last name?

I have a visa prepaid anonymous gift card. Somehow a scam artist got my card number and made a purchase on it from a sketchy website I’ve never heard of.

I called the visa gift card call centre and filed a dispute. They asked for my phone number, email, first and last name, and address to open the dispute. I felt uncomfortable giving all my info to a prepaid gift card foreign call centre, so I gave my first initial for first name and my middle name as my last name. I did not realize this would be a problem later.

They then emailed me a form to sign that says: “ I, the signee agree that any deception or knowledge thereof on my part constitutes fraud and breach of contract as defined in the cardholder agreement and will result in the denial of the disputed claim and possible legal recourse and financial remuneration as deemed necessary by company. By providing your e signature you acknowledge that the information herein is true and accurate”

They won’t investigate the dispute unless I sign. I think that what they really mean by deception, fraud, true, and accurate pertains to bogus disputes where someone spends the money and then lies that it was fraud to profit more money. This isn’t that, as this really is a fraud purchase I did not make from a site I’ve never heard of.

But I’m unsure if having given my first initial as my first name and middle name as my last name and signing my first initial to that document (usually how I sign anyway) also constitutes deception and fraud and is not true and accurate that I could get in civil or criminal trouble for or they could deny the claim because of it? They said if there are any mistakes on the demographic info given on the phone, you have to send a copy of your ID in the mail to them with the new info. There is no way I’m going to do that with some gift card company.

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2024/05/16
03:43 UTC

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What if a company advertises an illegal product as illegal?

edit, "what if a company advertizes an illegal product as LEGAL I am a disabled veteran in idaho and use CBD to help with both my sleep and PTSD, I found out about it because i did not want to use anything illegal to help but knew that my experiences with marijuana in the past were positive, and figured it was worth a shot. I went to a local vape and cbd shop and have purchased multiple cbd items(vapes) that i was very clear on ensuring with the owner that all products were legal to purchase and posess, I was given a definitive yes from the owner and she explained the legalities and also noted that if it was illegal, they would have been shut down long ago and have regular visits and inspections by the local PD. I have been a fairly regular customer since then, but they were raided two days ago and low and behold, the products i purchase were seized as well as all of their electronics and sales records. Am I in any legal trouble here? I have had horrible experiences with the va and have zero interest in being on medication, and was whole heartedly just trying to find something legal that would help without needing to jump through a million hoops to get it. The owner told me about this on my visit today that they were, and the raid was conducted under false presumptions and that all would be well, but if those products are deemed to be illegal, what kind of trouble would i be in?

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2024/05/16
03:19 UTC

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Is there a US precedent for atheists being considered a "protected class" in the context of being a victim of a hate crime?

So, I recently had to take some training on hate crimes. Most of it was highly oriented around white supremacy (both racial and antisemitism) as well as anti-LGBT. But, my question is whether there's any established law around atheism? IE if a fundamentalist killed or attacked someone for being an atheist? I know there's precedent over leaving religions.

5 Comments
2024/05/16
02:45 UTC

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Demanding to see someone else's arrest/immigration/search warrant

I work and live alongside a large number of immigrants who don't know English and probably don't know their rights. Some of these immigrants may be undocumented.

If ICE were to show up at our place of work with an immigration warrant for a coworker, my understanding is that a building manager or security could require ICE to show the warrant before allowing them entry.

  1. Suppose that I am at work and an ICE officer is attempting to arrest one of my coworkers. Security or the building manager may or may not be around to vouch that they have reviewed the warrant, but it is likely that the officers went through security to enter the building. Can I demand a copy of the warrant to verify that it is correct and signed, and then to direct the officers to leave if not? My worry here is that the underpaid, under-qualified security guard would not carefully review the warrant before allowing entry.
  2. Suppose that I am at home and one of my neighbors (who doesn't speak English) is being arrested. Can I ask to see the warrant for their arrest to verify they aren't being kidnapped? If my neighbor's house is being searched, do I have a right to see the warrant, even if the neighbor is not around to give permission?
4 Comments
2024/05/16
02:11 UTC

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Hypothetical

Why is it okay for me to drink a single beer then drive but not okay for me to drive and drink a single beer?

1 Comment
2024/05/16
01:17 UTC

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Is it Probable Cause or Beyond a Reasonable doubt a DA needs to take a case?

To my understanding, District Attorneys must determine that a case can likely be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in order to accept a case filing which they will pursue.

However, it is also my understanding that Probable Cause is all that’s required for charges to be brought forward on someone accused of a crime, either before they plead down a case or decide to go to trial.

So which one is it?

12 Comments
2024/05/16
00:52 UTC

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What are the laws around withholding food from starving people?

I wonder if it's possible to get some kind of homicide-like charge for not giving someone food. I doubt that there could be anything illegal about not giving someone food; if the food is your property, why should you be forced to give it to someone?

I guess that an exception would be if the starving person is your child; you can get charged with "neglect" if your child starves to death, correct?

Consider these scenarios:

  • you have a huge pile of food next to you (it's your food; you own it), but you refuse to give any of that food to a starving person, who then dies from starvation

  • you yourself are not starving...you have a small amount of food with you (it's your food; you own it), but you refuse to give any of that food to a starving person, who then dies from starvation

  • you're on the phone with someone who's starving; you know they have zero money to order food with, but you don't give them any money...the person then dies from starvation

It might be very "contrived" to propose scenarios in which the person somehow can't call 911 (to get an ambulance) but nevertheless can be in contact with you yourself. Not sure if such scenarios can even be imagined; it's probably possible to come up with some.

11 Comments
2024/05/16
00:35 UTC

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If cattle wanders onto your land can you drop them off at the police station's lost and found?

You always hear that if you find money or property that your legal obligation is to turn it in at the nearest police station rather than playing finders keepers.

Assuming this is really the case, since livestock is just property like any other, if cattle wander onto your land can you round them up and drop them off at your local police station?

30 Comments
2024/05/16
00:04 UTC

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if someone has a warrant and leaves the state permanently and buys a house in another state will the authorities ACTIVELY look for that person if it’s for a retail theft (non violent) charge?

16 Comments
2024/05/15
23:34 UTC

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Can you face legal action for underage drinking/smoking retroactively?

Like say said person is in their mid 20’s now, well past underage, can they get charges brought against them for drinking/smoking before they turned 21? Like say the cops had a legal vendetta against this person and found out they drank or smoked underage so they decided to retroactively charge them with it. Like I recognize nobody would actually care about that stuff but like purely hypothetically, say there was no evidence besides ur word and a few ppl who used to know u, and it was years after it happened and the judge just woke up on the wrong side of the bed that day and decided to be super strict about the law, does the statute of limitations run out on underage drinking? Can they just retroactively charge u for it years after u became of age?

14 Comments
2024/05/15
21:59 UTC

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Blood Pens

So, I've had this idea in my head about the concept of signing something so important that you have to do it with your blood. I'm thinking of a device, like a fountain pen, with a tube, hooked up to an IV in your arm.

Is there even such a thing, or a reason for such a thing? If so, where would this apply?

update,

So I get theres no such thing, yet. But what if the Blood Pen (tm) was redesigned so instead of a tube, a nurse could use one of the those blood sample vials, then connect it to the pen, as a blood/ink reservoir?

and of course, im not saying any one should be coerced into signing with blood. It would have to be a big deal, like in those movies where the guy sells his soul to the devil or something. So definitely not for a used car loan.

26 Comments
2024/05/15
20:58 UTC

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Defense burden?

(thinking about the Trump Trial in NYS now):

OK, so we all know the burden of PROOF lies with the State, and that's the only burden in a criminal trial.

But if the State presents an extensive case, with reams of documentary evidence on top of corroborating testimony, and there is little to no rebuttal from the Defense (other than on Cross) cannot the jury intimate there IS no defense?

And by what means can that be grounds for appeal if you didn't even make a defense?

30 Comments
2024/05/15
20:34 UTC

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Is there such a thing as disparate impact from "ethnic businesses"?

For example, let's say someone owned a manufacturing company. They put up postings/notices for welding positions, like companies regularly do.

The positions had wages below market rates. This was done so most welders would stay away, allowing those of the owner's ethnic group to apply and get the positions without much competition. Essentially, filtering using unfavorable wages that would only be tolerated because of ethnic affinity.

The owner avoided deliberate discrimination, like tossing applications, since not many outside the ethnic group applied. They also didn't raise wages after hiring, as that would be suspicious.

Is this illegal? Easy target for civil suit?

(I'm not a business owner nor do I plan on doing this fyi.)

18 Comments
2024/05/15
20:20 UTC

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Questions about next of kin in the state of Florida.

My family has always been small, literally my mom and dad, my sister and I, my uncle and my grandma on my moms side. At this point my only family is my uncle, my sister and I. My sister lives out of state so my uncle and I are the only ones left in Florida. At this point who is next of kin? My uncle doesn't have kids, he's never been married. He doesn't even have a dog. He's in the hospital with 10% kidney functionality amongst other problems. If he dies who is next of kin? I know I need to talk to a lawyer but I'm just asking generally right now. Thank you!

4 Comments
2024/05/15
18:59 UTC

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Can I hire an attorney to mediate an issue even if no claim has been filed?

As in, can I retain them and put their info in a demand letter as an attorney of choice to mediate the issue, even if I haven’t retained the attorney to represent me in court? Like can I approach an attorney and ask if they would agree to represent me in an out-of-court mediation?

2 Comments
2024/05/15
18:32 UTC

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What does it take to make illegal employees legal?

I am a consultant who works with a different restaurant companies and concepts (Corporations, Franchisees, Mom and Pops, etc.). I have noticed many of these restaurants hire illegal employees, creating many issues (not just legally but also structurally).

I thought it would be interesting if these companies invested in making these people legal, it would in turn provide retention and stronger culture within the organization. What does it take to do this? I used chat gpt for some of this but I am completely unfamiliar with this process. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated :)!

Edit: I am based out of Georgia, but I work with concepts across all states. I am really looking for advice for states who don't have complicated legislation (aka don't care about California, New York, etc.

24 Comments
2024/05/15
18:10 UTC

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Marketing Question-

First post here so please forgive any violation of sub norms.

This question arose from speaking with a friend yesterday.

Is it legal to market an item you know doesn’t work as advertised but in sort of tongue in cheek way? Would that even matter?

For instance, if I were to purchase a run of red lightbulbs from Alibaba and market them as ‘armadillo repellent’ -“use these on your front porch and your armadillo problem is solved! Money back guarantee!”

Basically Lisa Simpson's "Bear Rock"

Market this on real estate sites in armadillo heavy areas.

Certainly there a no small supply of gadgets that do practically nothing out there in the wild. Beauty products come immediately to mind

What potential legal issues would I encounter?

4 Comments
2024/05/15
13:56 UTC

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Judges see the worst and wittiest of humanity. How true is this statement?

Judges are literally exposed to all sorts of bizarre situations. They see all of the clever things defendants come up with and do to hide their crimes, and they also see the most gruesome stuff

Is it true that judges see the worst and wittiest of humanity?

6 Comments
2024/05/15
13:43 UTC

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The onus to learn the law is on citizens. Does this apply to interpreting it completely?

I understand why citizens are required to know the law, and if they break it - courts say too bad. It's just how society has to run

However, what if someone doesn't have a good education level, and since laws use legalese, is the onus still on citizens to interpret it correctly?

Especially in the past when laws were first made and literacy rates were lower, how did governments expect their citizens to even understand the nuances of their laws?

26 Comments
2024/05/15
13:41 UTC

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Relocation, layoffs and estoppel

Hypothetically speaking, if Alice, working at Bob’s company in Tennessee, were to be informed that the company would relocate to Oregon in the coming months, and used this information to in fact relocate to Oregon with all the bells and whistles (new lease, car registration, insurance, mountains of paperwork); only to be laid off shortly after this relocation, would Alice have grounds to sue Bob’s company?

Exactly how much effect is needed to have occurred for Alice to have standing to sue? Is there a maximum or minimum time frame for these events for Alice to have standing?

4 Comments
2024/05/15
12:06 UTC

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[US] Red Lobster Gift Cards?

I have a hunch the main sub won't let me ask this question so I'll pose it here. Sounds like they are declaring bankruptcy next week. I'm not sure how much gift cards I have but I think it is around $70. I think in some cases bankruptcy cancels all gift cards but in others it doesn't. In what circumstances will those be wiped out if I don't eat there every day between now and then?

6 Comments
2024/05/15
08:17 UTC

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Small Claims NY

Does the court level the playing field for a pro se litigant vs say an opposing party being defended by a lawyer?

Does the small claim court operate similar to higher level courts, where you see motions and responses with case law?

2 Comments
2024/05/15
05:46 UTC

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Who would be at fault for a defamatory reference?

So most big corporations are scared to death to give out honest references, and just confirm dates of employment, position, and POSSIBLY if you are eligible for re-hire. This is because, while giving a truly honest reference is totally legal, big companies and organizations are scared shitless of a lawsuit. (Small organizations are a totally different ballgame and seem to willingly tell anything to anyone… the company I work for prides itself on giving out negative references to just about anyone who leaves to ensure they can’t).

But my question is - what if someone reaches out to a former boss on their personal LinkedIn account or personal phone, and they answer on their personal time. Who, if anyone, would be potentially liable for defamation/slander? Would it be the company? The former boss personally? Or would nobody be liable at all? This is assuming of course that all the other facts point to a situation where some form of defamation or slander has occurred, and it’s solely a question of who to blame.

Bonus: What if the former boss no longer works for that employer?

6 Comments
2024/05/15
02:44 UTC

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Logan Act Question: Are you legally allowed to ask representatives in a foreign government to create and support a bill/resolution charging US officials who are credibly accused of facilitating war crimes in addition to creating extradition warrants for them as result?

What’s the deal with the Logan Act, as I see that keep being updated: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act

6 Comments
2024/05/15
01:44 UTC

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Apologize or face jail for demanding police officer "get his ass out of the way."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/judge-orders-alabama-driver-apologize-face-jail-telling-officer-get-as-rcna152006

An Alabama man who told a police officer, “Get your ass out of the way” after he was ticketed during a traffic stop last year says he was ordered by a judge to either apologize to the officer for having cursed at him or face up to 30 days in jail.

If the facts are as reported here by NBC News, the judge's order seems very clearly to be violative of First Amendment guarantees.

101 Comments
2024/05/15
01:42 UTC

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Positive vs. Non Positive

What exactly are non Positive laws, and why do we have to abide by them?

1 Comment
2024/05/15
00:52 UTC

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Looking for an answer

I am researching Ruby Ridge and have learned that Randy Weaver was acquitted of all charges except his failure to appear in court. However, it is never explained how he was acquitted of the firearms charge that sparked everything that happened. Sorry if I'm asking in the wrong community. If anyone could help me get closer to an answer, it would be much appreciated.

4 Comments
2024/05/14
23:25 UTC

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