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Learn, share and listen to the classical music of the Indian subcontinent!

For all your Indian classical music needs.

  • Help build the wiki, and a glossary of common terms.

  • We're not expecting a massive downpour of posts and readers, so post whatever interesting stuff you find and it'll be sure to receive some attention and not get lost.

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  • Posts don't have to be strictly classical music - music based on traditional ragas, instruments, rhythms are welcome too! However, please supplement seemingly unrelated music with a short discussion on how it relates to ICM.

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Ustad Bismillah Khan - Concert for Sahaja Yogis - Paris 1987

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2024/04/20
21:46 UTC

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How to keep yourself invested in ICM?

A few years back I got into classical music in a very abrupt and weird way. I won't go into details since this is a music subreddit but it was the result of an OD and since then ICM has been very instrumental (no pun intended) in my life. But as of late I don't feel the same joy I did in ICM, I enjoy listening and playing all the great compositions and raags I've been exposed to but it all has a sense of.... familiarity, you know? It feels lethargic listening to it even though I still enjoy and indulge myself in the genre

Sorry for the awkward and off topic post, but has this happened to anyone else? Please share your experiences if possible, it would be greatly appreciated.

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2024/04/20
21:12 UTC

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Ravi Shankar and Philip Glass - Ragas In Minor Scale

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2024/04/20
18:20 UTC

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Deconstruct Sapna Vinani Raat

I have a question about a song named "Sapna Vinani Raat" from movie "Hellaro" sung by aditya gadhvi.

So from timestamp 1:01, the song starts with an unusual beat, which i cannot understand, cannot deconstruct.

I'm little bit trained in indian classical, so i know about taals. I've counted it and its 12 maatra cycle but never I've ever heard it before. And division/structure of those 12 maatra is quite confusing so if anyone can shad some light on it.

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2024/04/19
09:26 UTC

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Has anyone tried Carnatic viola d'amore?

I own a viola d'amore- a baroque, shoulder-held, bowed string instrument with 14 strings (7 melody, 7 sympathetic). The strings are tuned in fourths, with one odd third in the middle. Its strings span from A2 to D6, giving it ranges from low tenor up through soprano.

I was wondering, given the similarities to both Carnatic violin (in terms of shape, tuning, and technique) and sarangi (in terms of sympathetic strings), if anyone has tried popularizing viola d'amore in a carnatic style. I've seen someone play one in a Tunisian style, and there's a video of someone from Germany playing one in a Carnatic style, but has anyone from India ever tried to pioneer it? If so, who?

Here's that video of someone playing Carnatic viola d'amore:

https://youtu.be/A__bDTzunCA?si=Sm7F7vEJ6HZyPxex

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2024/04/17
13:04 UTC

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Help me understand the time signature of this. Hi I'm a musician but only know Western patterns (4/4, 6/8, 3/2 ect) so I find it very hard to pinpoint a structure to a lot of ICM. Maybe the structure is more fluid than that. Mind blowing piece of music.

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2024/04/17
10:09 UTC

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Lyrics and meaning for “Sakhi Shyaam Nahin Aaye”

I’ve been enjoying listening to Bhimaen Joshi’s Chhaya/Chhaya Malhar recently. I was wondering if anyone had the lyrics and meaning of the drut bandish. I’m also wondering why I can’t seem to find any other artists singing these Raags.

Thanks in advance!

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2024/04/16
22:52 UTC

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Matthew Grasso & Joel Veena | Raga Kirwani | Confluence of Raga Guitars

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2024/04/14
15:49 UTC

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Raag Kaunsi Bhairav: Beautiful Creation of Ustad Allauddin Khan, Rendered by Pt Ravi Shankar and Ustad Allah Rakh

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2024/04/14
09:31 UTC

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Announce your concerts in advance.

I don’t know if there are any ICM performers out there, but if you’re reading this, announce your concerts more than 24 hours in advance. More people will come if they have a few weeks to plan their work and child care. Here in the USA musicians announce their tours months in advance on social media and post again while they’re actually touring. I see many ICM performers announce their show less than 24 hours before showtime and it’s just not realistic to expect people to drop their plans for you.

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2024/04/13
22:49 UTC

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Which raag is Ve Kamleya? (From "Rocky Aur Rani kii Prem Kahaani")

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2024/04/13
20:53 UTC

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V G Jog Raag Shudh Sarang

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2024/04/12
21:59 UTC

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Pronunciation of aa kar

When I sing aa kar or even sargam the “a” sound always sounds a bit off for me… like the pronunciation of the vowel itself. Are there any tips or a pronunciation guide? I’ve tried following recordings but I’m having trouble matching it, and I notice multiple pronunciations. Thank you.

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2024/04/11
21:06 UTC

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Good songs in raga mayamalavagowla

I’ve been learning Carnatic music for a while and the raga used to learn it is mayalavagowla. I really enjoy listening to ICM and what got me into learning vocal music was my yearn to one day master raga Durga, Suddha Saveri, Dvijaiwanti and Hamasadhwani. While I relate to those penatonic scale ragas, I don’t seem to feel the same for Mayalavagowla, which has made practice quite hard. I wanted to know if you have recommendations for good songs in this raga so I can listen to them and develop an understanding and interest into it with an aim that it helps make my learning more attached.

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2024/04/11
16:36 UTC

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Carnatic Saxophone - Enna Thavam Seithanai Kapi / Mishra Pilu

Here is a link to the YouTube video. Please take a second to subscribe, like, comment, and share! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilQKAmID4JY

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2024/04/11
14:45 UTC

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The greatest Hindustani vocal (khyal) release ever has just been added to streaming for the first time!

3 Comments
2024/04/10
16:43 UTC

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Anoushka Shankar - Voice of the moon

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2024/04/07
16:51 UTC

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Pandit K G Ginde - Raag Gaud Malhar

Young Pt Yogesh Samsi on tabla

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2024/04/07
00:37 UTC

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Best type of Sitars for beginners ?

Please share some insight about the type of Sitar a beginner should go for. Also give a comparison between rudra, carnatic veena, sitar and electric sitar. It would be helpful if you can also mention a price range since Sitar mostly are expensive.

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2024/04/06
12:09 UTC

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Can someone help me identify a raag.

I want to know the name of raag which is similar in structure to Raag Sarang. But instead of using both nishad, only komal nishad is used. Does anybody know the name of a raag like this? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!

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2024/04/05
13:59 UTC

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Can someone please tell me which raag is this ?

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2024/04/05
06:43 UTC

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Pandit Anant Manohar Joshi Tribute in Raga Malgunji; a Cover and Tribute

https://preview.redd.it/rnwn38dityrc1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=a03f9f14594cb61c0bf81a43f321076acef8cd0a

Hi folks! I've just uploaded a cover of Anant Manohar "Antubuwa" Joshi's bandish in Raga Malgunji, "Raina kari daravana lagi re." Please do take a listen!

Raga Malgunji is a wondrous creation. My tradition, the Mewati Gharana, conceives it as a compound of Ragas Khamaj and Gara with the connective tissue evoking shades of Bageshri and Rageshri. This raga is a great example of how folk or "Desi" ragas, like Khamaj and Gara, when given the fixtures of shastric or "Margi" ragas, like Bageshri and Rageshri, produces extraordinary dynamism. Many popular Hindi film songs have leaned on Raga Malgunji for composition.

Raga Malgunji has largely been propagated by the Senia (Rampur, Maihar) and Gwalior traditions. Antubuwa-ji's legacy continues through eminent folks like the Kashalkar brothers, his Joshi heirs, and countless others who've been deeply impressed by the rigor of his son, Gajananrao Joshi alias "Gajananbuwa."

I find this bandish really earwormy. It's simultaneously tender, despairing, fantasizing, and reflexive. Hence, I had to attempt it! :-D

Here's my cover: https://youtu.be/CJxoS8900w8

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2024/04/03
07:46 UTC

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Raag Bhimpalas and Raag Madhmat Sarang

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2024/04/02
04:59 UTC

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Raga Sampooran Malkauns ~ Ustad Shujaat Hussain Khan & Ustad Tari Khan ~ Live in Lahore (1996)

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2024/04/01
17:19 UTC

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Which raag are the songs in Devdas based on?

So I have been listening to this soundtrack for the last few days but wondering whic raags all the songs are based on- especially silsila yeh chahat ka.

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2024/04/01
15:30 UTC

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Raag Khamaj Composition

I've been practicing Bansuri for around a year. So far I've been self learning. I have used E base flute for this composition

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2024/03/31
11:25 UTC

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Books dedicated to traditional bandishes

Can anyone please suggest some books which has a huge collection of bandishes? Other than bhatkhande's books ofcourse.

4 Comments
2024/03/30
08:23 UTC

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Any ICM performances/recordings that you consider the greatest music ever made?

Is there any Indian Classical Music piece or performance that you have listened to and felt that it is genuinely some of the greatest music humanity's ever made? Out of all the different eras and genres that exist in music.

Also share what makes it so great to you

15 Comments
2024/03/29
10:02 UTC

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