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Learn, share and listen to the classical music of the Indian subcontinent!

For all your Indian classical music needs.

  • Help build the wiki, and a glossary of common terms.

  • We're not expecting a massive downpour of posts and readers, so post whatever interesting stuff you find and it'll be sure to receive some attention and not get lost.

  • There's a ton of ICM out there on the internet. Youtube is a treasure. Look up artists on music sharing/suggestion sites like Spotify, Apple, and Amazon. Check out the resources page. Please share via open platforms rather than sites where login is required (such as facebook).

  • Posts don't have to be strictly classical music - music based on traditional ragas, instruments, rhythms are welcome too! However, please supplement seemingly unrelated music with a short discussion on how it relates to ICM.

  • Racist, troll, and spam posts or comments will be deleted on sight. Abusive language is discouraged and will be removed if the content is offensive or unrelated to the music.

  • Index to the Raga of the Week threads. Contributions are encouraged!

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Sad to read about Annapurna devi

I wonder what indian music could have been if she would not had made that vow. And though Panditji was a legend but I believe he failed as a human

24 Comments
2024/12/20
19:20 UTC

6

L. Shankar - Ragam Tanam Pallavi - Ragam: Sankarabharanam

1 Comment
2024/12/20
01:08 UTC

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Ustad Zakir Hussain Performance in Presence of H.H.Shree Mataji Nirmala Devi

1 Comment
2024/12/18
18:31 UTC

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Listening suggestions?

I’m a white guy from American with rather limited knowledge of ICM, but have been enjoying more and more of it lately am looking to explore this music further.

I’ve mostly come to this music from two sources. The first being Ravi Shankar and Ali Akbar Khan whom both had some success/roots in the Bay Area where I live. I find I really enjoy how the music is both meditative and very complex with frenetic dynamic cressendos. The other is the more modern music of Arishi Jain, which I find to be absolutely sublime.

I guess I feel like I’m only scratching the tip when the iceberg with what I’ve been listening to and am looking for suggestions of what else I should checkout? Any good resources for learning more about this music? Any suggestions where I might be able to see/hear this music played live in the Bay Area?

I’ve picked up a copy of ‘Finding the Raga’ by Amit Chaudhuri and am just starting to read that. Open to good reading suggestions as well.

Anyone will to chat and answer some dumb questions I have?

13 Comments
2024/12/17
21:51 UTC

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Difference between Raag Yaman Kalyan and Shyam Kalyan

Hello, I am a fan of Hindustani music, coming from a Carnatic background. What is the difference between these two raags? I have looked on the internet, but I didn't find anything. I know they both have shuddha and teevra Ma.

Also does Yaman raag allow you to add shuddha Ma, or is only teevra Ma allowed?

5 Comments
2024/12/17
14:26 UTC

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Student Filmmakers need for a Classical Musicians

Hello Musicians!

We are a group of student filmmakers currently working on our Graduation Film, and we’re looking for a Music Artist to collaborate with us. While this is a free collaboration, it’s a fantastic opportunity to showcase your talent to a wide audience.

What We Offer:

  • Promotion of your music to our college community of over 5,000 students.
  • Feature and credits on YouTube channels and Instagram pages with more than 10k followers.
  • Exposure at big film festivals, where your work will be heard by industry professionals.

If you’re passionate about creating music and want your work to be part of a meaningful project, we’d love to collaborate with you!

Drop a DM or comment below if interested. Let’s make something unforgettable together!

8 Comments
2024/12/16
16:53 UTC

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Feeling Dissapointed in Myself

I gave Gandharva Mahavidyalayas Exam for the first time ever and didn't perform very well. Feeling very very Dissapointed. Even though my Guru is saying it's okay and doesn't matter and that exam was just an Formality. But I'm feeling very ashamed. I don't know how to face him.

11 Comments
2024/12/16
11:44 UTC

328

Big loss to the world of music! 😔

Big loss to the world of music 🎶

I have fond childhood memories of his ads and performances..

Om Shanti 🙏🏻

14 Comments
2024/12/16
10:44 UTC

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My little tribute to Zakir Hussain—his timeless rhythms, his radiant smile, and the legacy he leaves behind.

1 Comment
2024/12/16
08:15 UTC

7

raga symbols question

I saw a description of raga Jog online and was curious about the notation. Specifically, what does (D) and (A) stand for?

  • Jog Pattern 1 (D)→S 'n ‘P ’n S G m P n S’ / S’ G’ m’ g’ S’ n P m g S
  • Jog Pattern 1 (A)→S 'n ‘P ’n S G m P n S’ / S’ n P m G m g S
  • Jog Pattern 2 (D)→’P ’n S g ’n S G m S G m P G m P n m P n S’ / m’ g’ S’ n g’ S’ n P S’ n P m n P m G P m g S
  • Jog Pattern 2 (A)→’P ’n S g ’n S G m S G m P G m P n m P n S’ g’ S’ n P S’ n P m n P m G P m g S m g S ’n ‘P ’n S
  • Jog Pattern 3→S 'n g S m g P m n P S’ n g’ S’ / S’ g’ n S’ P n m P G m S g ’n S

UPDATE:

Appears that the (D) is for a male-sung part. (A) is for female. I don’t yet understand why, but that’s my current understanding.

9 Comments
2024/12/14
22:06 UTC

6

The singing sitar

actually sitar for mental health https://youtu.be/ct0TxyabIs4

1 Comment
2024/12/12
17:33 UTC

3

Has anyone learned from GAALC?

Hi all,

I’ve been looking for online lessons for Indian classical music and came across GAALC (global academy of arts language and culture) who are offering lessons in a variety of different instruments. However I can’t find any reviews or further info on them aside from some YouTube videos from their channel. Does anyone have any experience with them?

Thanks all!

1 Comment
2024/12/12
11:49 UTC

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What do you really think of the Sitarist Rishab Sharma?

I admire the work he is doing in the field of mental health but as a musician... there's so many others that deserve the fame and platform he currently has.

14 Comments
2024/12/12
10:26 UTC

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Which raag is this Harmonium section of song 'Dulhe ka sehra' based on ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA1zDP1n1xc

This sounds like of bhairavi to me but i couldn't bind it into bhairavi thaat as it seems shifing some keys. If some expert can help me understanding this masterpiece that would be great.

1 Comment
2024/12/12
07:36 UTC

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What do you guys think about raag gurmat sangeet?

As someone who learns raag gurmat sangeet, I've always wondered what pure classical musicians think about it. Especially people like raagis harbans Singh 'ghulla', raagis balwant Singh ji (or any namdhari singer really), Bhai Avtar Singh ji and also those people. I would love to hear some opinions.

4 Comments
2024/12/12
03:54 UTC

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does anyone have staff notation for piya tose naina lage?

IK it's indian traditional but i've seen people play it on western flutes as well..... i know how to play it but i'm planning to use it as my free choice piece fot my ABRSM exam so i need an existing arrangement..... with yk...... staff notations

3 Comments
2024/12/11
17:27 UTC

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Hope someone can help me to recognise the Raag of a bhajan in Kannada?

Bhajan on YouTube by Madhuri Kulkarni - Bhajare Hanumantam - by Purandara Dasaru?

2 Comments
2024/12/10
21:22 UTC

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Info on Raga Lome

Any info on Raga Lome. Loved this recording of Ustad Ali Akbar Khan . Found some info browsing online saying its a traditional raga without any indepth material. The only other mastero I found playing a similar Raga is Pt Radhika Mohan Moitra, playing a raga called Lom Sarang , a very short less than three minute clip.

  1. AAK recording (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVstbZYjfJA&t=343s)

  2. Radhika Mohan Moitra Recording (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjazyxKyLI0 )

4 Comments
2024/12/10
15:00 UTC

6

Need Guidance

Hi. So basically I had gotten into Hindustani Classical Vocals in 2016, learned it from a commercial home teacher for 1.5 years, then left because I had boards coming up and also because I wasn't able to see improvement. As she only used to teach in groups, she wasn't able to make individual corrections. She had some favorites too (she was Bengali and gave more attention to her Bengali students).

Now its 2024, ending soon, and I wanted to catch-up on my singing. Been out of practice for a long time now, but before starting fresh again, I wanted some guidance and feedback on my current singing and how I can improve it, so I need to know the areas I need to work on. I don't want to practice wrong this time. I am also not looking forward to be an accomplished artist, I just want me to sound good, at least to my ears.

Do you know someone who could listen to me and give me some feedback and guidance? That would be really helpful.

1 Comment
2024/12/09
14:54 UTC

3

Harmonium help (buzzing reed)

My new harmonium has a reed making a bad buzzing noise. I am trying to open the reed bank of the harmonium to fix the issue. I have not been able to do so. I have removed all screws shown in the photo. The harmonium has vertical reeds (khadi kangi).

Any help fixing would be greatly appreciated 🙏🏼

3 Comments
2024/12/08
17:02 UTC

3

Need vocal advice

Can i stop air coming out while singing? with regular riyaz? It sounds little husky kind of when i sing.

3 Comments
2024/12/07
14:37 UTC

3

Bihag - Anirudh Varma Collective | Amira G, Kavya S, Sreerag, Nikhil Rao, Vrinda C

1 Comment
2024/12/05
18:18 UTC

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Recommendations Needed: Playlist for my Wedding!

Hello lovely folks! So I am getting married on a chilly Saturday evening in February and rather than having the same tacky wedding songs for my wedding walk to the mandap (Din Shagna Da 🤮), I wanted to have a playlist that could elevate the whole occasion and make people respect and admire our music even more.

Important context: I learnt hindustani classical music for 12 years when I was a child and am deeply appreciative of the beauty that is indian classical music. Having said that, I have taken it upon myself to create the playlist which would play during the time we do the varmala andthen sit in the mandap. No matter how much I try, it sounds like elevator/waiting lobby music.

I would be extremely grateful if you could recommend me a few instrumental tracks which go with the theme of wedding and celebration and would fit the occasion. If the tracks are related to wedding, even better! I am also mentioning other details below: Time of the wedding: early February, 4pm to 5pm Location: Temperatures around 15°C Preference: Instrumental tracks

7 Comments
2024/12/05
11:32 UTC

6

Pt Radhika Mohan Maitra - Malkauns

Rare recording of Shahjahanpur style presentation of this critical raga

1 Comment
2024/12/03
16:24 UTC

2

Immersion learning Hindustani music

Hi Everyone, I'm 40 and recently started learning hindustani vocals. I have 1:1 online classes twice a week. I'm able to practice on average around 20-30 minutes every day given my schedule. I wonder if doing a kind of immersion learning would help make a better foundation and progress. By immersion, I mean taking 2-3 months sabbatical/break, staying close to the guru/school, and practice and listen to music all day. Does that even make sense for someone of my age?

4 Comments
2024/12/03
15:21 UTC

4

Good to portable percussion?

I'm playing tabla and percussion and i have a problem with tabla is not good at pick up and go outside. It consists of two drum so volume is so big. Can you recommend good percussion at portable?

3 Comments
2024/12/03
02:38 UTC

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I've fallen in love with my guru.

Throwaway for obvious reasons.

I'm an American who has been studying ICM for nearly a decade. For the last few years, I've been studying with a dhrupad guru who is close to me in age. I've developed strong and rather obvious feelings for them and am unsure of my next steps. What would you guys do in this situation? In our current time, do you feel like it's acceptable for a student to date their guru?

44 Comments
2024/12/01
21:03 UTC

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Unique and Rare artist

Namaste, I recently came across this rare female vocalist Begum Zahida Parveen from Pakistan. Her Darbari presentation balances traditional and unique interpretations of the raag. Definitely worth a listen.

https://youtu.be/EKIVDq4NZc4?si=yM9b4beBEwdyAAba

4 Comments
2024/11/30
16:09 UTC

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Raga that represents a feeling of tentative happiness

Can someone point me to a raga that represents a feeling of tentative happiness ?

3 Comments
2024/11/29
16:16 UTC

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