Here's the updated list of Ragas (Hindustani) I found in old European Music from the 16th and 17th century.

The Ragas are defined not mainly by the single voice movements, but offer a sequence of chords which fit the additional singing of a true Raga structure as improvisation.

* Bahar (G dorian with typical F-E-F#-G motif)

* Chhayanat (often in C, typically descending via B flat, F# used from G chords to D chords and back.)

* Gaud Sarang (often in G major, some pieces reveal the bare vakra structure)

* Bhairavi (in g or in d - the d type uses all notes, the g type is the old Kafi base Bhairavi it seems)

* Dhanashri (old type)

* Hamir (I only found one example though)

* Shankara (in C, later in E flat major (Heroic key)-> Beethoven's 3rd is a huge Shankara Raga complete with the clash of the two chords)

* Bhimpalasi

* Jaijaivanti

* Asavari (seems like the a mode with b/b flat change is used here - the true Asavari seems to have both komal and shuddha re depending on aaroh/avroh)

Others are awaiting identification.

There's even a European style called "Fantastic", which seems to hint at "Khyal" meaning the same.

Here's a new mix I made in Shankara Raga, the Sonata playing in the back follows the same structure as the short bandish.

https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann/omkar-dadarkar-shankara-raag-valentini-sonata-in-c

And here's a longer mix with two pieces from different times but on the same Raga:

https://soundcloud.com/tristan-von-neumann/chhayanat-raag-mix-omkar-dadarkar-chaconne-rebel-canzon-iv-gabrieli

I don't know if this is the right subreddit to ask this but do you happen to know any Indian subreddit where we can take singing tips and feedback and showcase our singing. I know r/singing but mostly there are English song. If I want to sing in hindi there isn't any subreddit. This Sub is for classical music so no pop, rock etc.

If there isn't, we can create it.

Can someone please tell me the Western Notes for the Playing String and the other Three Strings if I am wanting to play Raag Malkauns.

Thank you very much.

Please, if anyone's got the chords for it, do share. I wanna learn and play the intro so badly on my acoustic guitar.

I'm planning to do it regularly to bring out the bass notes more beautifully. Has anyone been able to get a deeper speaking voice in general by practicing this?

I don't care about losing out my high notes as long as I can make my lower range more comfortable.

How has it affected your voice? How do you practice kharaj?

I've been scanning several shops seeking a dilruba or Esraj for purchase (I mainly play guitar and bass but I found myself in the Indian music rabbit hole and this is the reason I want at least one Indian instrument in my collection), and I keep seeing this brand selling various types of bowed instruments at heavily discounted prices. The few reviews I've seen say that their instruments aren't well built. It's there anyone who has had experiences with this specific brand? Thank you.

On bansuri, (assuming regular 6 hole bansuri) you have pa as the fully closed position and tivra ma as the fully open. Going from tivra ma up to the next note in the next register pa you have a harmonic change. I'm wondering if anyone has any insights on how to achieve a smooth meend from ma to pa basically. and beyond that even like ma going up to dha, ga to pa, and so forth. Basically I'm curious if it's possible to get a meend across the entire range without any discontinuity.

Soo i have just gotten into icm, and wanted to learn it on my own i know its not possible to understand whole icm on my own but i still wanted to try, soo like how does one sing the swaras?? Like the swaras arent some fixed pitch like the notes in western music so how can i find my sa??

I was looking for a particular bandish of raag megh which has very few recordings, now I do know that many singers sometimes opt for not singing the bada khyaal antara but I heard two recordings of them one of like a 20 minute set so I figured the time was too short to include antara but even in an hour set there was no antara in that bandish and I found the recording of the same bandish by another singer and they also didn't sing the antara. Can it be that the bandish has no antara? Have y'all learned banishes which didn't have a antara?

I want to learn this bandish for my exam, there are only two recordings of this bandish, one from ustad amir khan and other from smt veena sahasrabuddhe but both don't have antara. If anybody know the antara please tell me Or if you know any recording of it on YouTube where I can hear the antara it's fine too.

I've been taking classical vocal lessons from an amazing guru. She has a phd in Indian classical and has an experience of 35+ years.

She has a few slots available right now and if someone is genuinely interested in learning, I can share the details.

A mesmerizing kalaam that touches the soul , presented beautifully by abida ji.

https://youtu.be/5IuosWRSqQY?feature=shared

Please firstly categorize yourself into beginner, intermediate or advanced and if you're okay also how long you've been learning, I don't want to set my goals too high lol. So I'm an intermediate I would say and have enrolled in a masters program for music. I did my bachelors some 5-6 years back and had a break in between atleast from classical singing not singing altogether and im getting into the routine back because well I have exams. I have a whole syllabus pending and im kind of losing hope. So I just wanted to know how long does it take y'all to learn a raga as in a bada khyaal, one chota khyaal and maybe like some aalaps, taans etc, like one good performance type. I know this might also depend on the difficulty of the raga itself but I just need an estimate. I think setting up a goal for myself would really get me going. I'm really that kind of person who learns by getting into these kinda petty competitions 🥲. Thank you.

Can i learn indian classical music on my own (singing), i have some experience with western music theory as i play electric guitar but i wanted to get started with some indian classicals too, but it just seems too hard to practice on my own specially singing and all, so is it possible for me to learn on my own without any teacher??

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