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"I am a humanist, which means, in part, that I have tried to behave decently without any expectation of rewards or punishments after I'm dead."

-Kurt Vonnegut


Welcome to /r/Humanism!


What is Humanism?

Humanism is a democratic and ethical life stance, which affirms that human beings have the right and responsibility to give meaning and shape to their own lives. It stands for the building of a more humane society through an ethic based on human and other natural values in the spirit of reason and free inquiry through human capabilities. Because humanism is not based on any theological premise, every individual is free to combine humanism with other belief systems and to resolve conflicting beliefs in their own way.

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  1. Personal attacks, abusive language, trolling, racism and bigotry will not be tolerated.

  2. If the purpose of your comment is to derail the discussion, troll another user, personally attack a user, or make a racial/bigoted statement then it will be removed. Comments that obviously add nothing to the discussion will also be removed.

  3. If a submission is downvoted to or below zero and remains so for over 24 hours, the post will be deemed off topic and be removed to make room for other submissions.

  4. We encourage and maintain a community for civil discussion that is respectful to all beliefs and ideals. As humanists, we have a diverse group of religious and irreligious subscribers. For this reason, militant and radical submissions will not be accepted and may be removed. Submitters who post a solely anti-theistic or anti-secular link/text may be asked to resubmit with an appropriately improved title or to post elsewhere.

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Related Subreddits:

/r/Christian_Humanism

/r/HumanisticJudaism

/r/SecularHumanism

/r/religion

/r/Skeptic

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Young Humanists stories around the world - Srishti Hukku

As a Kashmiri-Canadian who has lived all over the world, I love exploring ethical, existential, emotional, and equity issues.

At the age of 18 at university, I discovered Humanism and realized that there was a group of like-minded individuals who loved to debate major social and philosophical issues facing society. It was through these discussions that I felt a sense of community and realized that I wanted to express my care for humanity through advocacy for vulnerable and marginalized populations.

After doing a number of different roles, I recently became the youngest accredited Humanist Chaplain in Canada. Bringing my humanist story full-circle, I have the privilege of serving the student and employee community at the University of Ottawa.

For more Young Humanists stories around the world, visit: https://humanists.international/about/young-humanists-international/young-humanist-faces/

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2024/11/01
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Humanism in a nutshell

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Projects executed with grants offered by Humanists International

Every year, Humanists International, as part of its Growth and Development Plan, awards a series of grants to support the projects of our Members and Associates around the world.

These projects tackle issues such as:

•Promotion of humanism

•Promotion of critical thinking or scientific and evidence-based information

•Capacity building of humanist organizations

•Promotion/protection of women’s rights and sexual health and reproductive rights

•Promotion/protection of the rights of the child

•Promotion/protection of the right to freedom of religion or belief

•Promotion/protection of secularism and democracy

•Campaigning to repeal apostasy and blasphemy laws

•Assistance to humanists at risk

•Promotion/protection of the right to free artistic expression

•Non-discrimination on the grounds of sexual orientation or gender identity

•Anti-racism and caste-based discrimination initiatives

•Initiatives to combat harmful traditional practices

Over 36 projects have been executed worldwide under the Grants Program.

Read more about the executed projects here: https://humanists.international/what-we-do/growth-and-development/supported-projects/

Consider donating to our Growth & Development Plan here: https://humanists.international/what-we-do/growth-and-development/

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2024/10/30
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Human intelligence gave us the written word

I love human intelligence because it gave us the written word, factual and fictional, for the written word allow us to discover the universe of human thought and knowledge spanning the centuries, continents and cultures from the ancient Mesopotamians to the Renaissance and into the twenty-first century; the written word enables us to appreciate humanity's wisdom from the First Nation's people and African proverbs to the Islamic golden age and the Renaissance to contemporary digital influencers; and it stirs our imaginations with epic tales of hobbits, vampires, superheroes and galaxies far, far away.

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2024/10/30
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Where to start?

Hello all! I’m very recently quite intrigued with Humanism. I grew up in an evangelical Christian house, got a theology degree, was a music pastor for about 10 years and left religion around 2018-2019. I’ve struggled with finding a “label” of where I belong in terms of my beliefs. I believe humans are inherently good and that kindness and empathy are the most important traits. I still feel like there is something bigger than all of us in the universe, whether that be god or something else.

Anyway, I stumbled upon Humanism not too long ago and it felt right to me. What are some good books/podcasts/videos that you’d recommend for learning about Humanism? Although l do have a theology degree, I really can’t handle heavy/dense material when it comes to books if that makes sense. I prefer a writer who writes simply and clearly.

Appreciate any and all suggestions!

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2024/10/29
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Sudan, the affected country without international support.

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2024/10/29
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What are your songs about progress, humanism and the greatness of man?

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2024/10/29
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Humanists International November Drop-In Session on Freedom of Thought Report

Humanists International Casework & Campaigns Manager, Emma Wadsworth-Jones, will deliver a 1.5-hour interactive training session to take you through how to go about researching and updating a Freedom of Thought Report entry.
She will cover everything from the basic dos and don’ts, to what the best sources are.

If you’re thinking about signing up as a volunteer, we highly recommend you attend one of these sessions.

This online event will take place over Zoom on 15 November 2024 at 11 am (UK time).

Register here: https://humanists.international/event/fotr-training-6/

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2024/10/28
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Reminder

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2024/10/27
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Friendly reminder

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2024/10/26
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Freedom of Thought Report October Drop-In Session with Humanists International

Humanists International Casework & Campaigns Manager, Emma Wadsworth-Jones, will run a drop-in session on the Freedom of Thought Report this Friday 25th of October (today) at 2 pm (UK time).

Working on a country entry for the Freedom of Thought Report? Are you stuck or have a question? Sign up for this session, to brainstorm and get advice. Open to anyone currently working on an update. To join, please let us know you’re coming here. Register at the link below.

Need some advice, but you aren’t able to make it to one of these sessions? Please email: report@humanists.international. We will be happy to help.

Register here: https://humanists.international/event/fotr-trouble-shooting-drop-in-session-10/

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2024/10/25
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The Minimum Statement on Humanism

Humanism is a democratic and ethical life stance, which affirms that human beings have the right and responsibility to give meaning and shape to their own lives. It stands for the building of a more humane society through an ethic based on human and other natural values in the spirit of reason and free inquiry through human capabilities. It is not theistic, and it does not accept supernatural views of reality.

Humanists International is made up of more than 120 Member organizations and associated groups across the globe. You can find your nearest group here. While the definition of humanism may vary slightly between organizations and groups, the Amsterdam Declaration serves as the definitive guiding principles of modern humanism for everyone in our global community.

Read more here: https://humanists.international/what-is-humanism/

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2024/10/23
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Is it possible to be a Humanist, without being a "religious" or "secular" Humanist?

Hello, fellow Humanists. I'm just curious, is there anyone here who doesn't really feel they fit into the spectrum of specific labeled Humanism? I considered myself a Secular Humanist for a long time. However, I became somewhat disillusioned with this frame of thought of association due to the strong Anti-theist beliefs that many Secular Humanists seem to have. I get a lot of people who are Secular Humanists probably used to be a member of Christianity, and were harmed in some way. I used to be as well.

However, I've come to realize for my own personal viewpoints, you don't need to believe in something personally to tolerant and care for others. I know this is counterproductive to religious notions and evangelicalism/extremism. However, I feel as Humanists, we should be better than that. I am perfectly fine with others being religious, having faith in religion, etc. There are other forms of Humanistic-type beliefs which do incorporate different religious type rituals or ceremony I would argue, such as Unitarian Universalism. I would even argue that there are probably forms of Christianity that could be more Humanistic, or at least people who believe in more Humanistic values, more likely your more "liberal" Christians obviously, compared to conservatives Christians. Humanistic Judaism could probably be another example of things that believe in Humanism, but also in the value of religious type "ceremony" or "ritual" according to Jewish culture.

I get that for many people, these add value and meaning. I, personally, don't believe in anything supernatural. I'd liken my Humanism more akin to those bumper stickers sort of that say "COEXIST."

However, I do still believe in secular values and my own spin on life, philosophy and any kind of "spirituality," as I believe one can also be spiritual without being religious, should one desire to.

I'd say my Humanism beliefs are kind of a blend almost between religious Humanism and Secular Humanist notions. This is simply why I prefer to call myself "Humanist."

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2024/10/22
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Commentary on Colotes of Lampsacus

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2024/10/21
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Humanists International warns of misuse of religion as a barrier in UN human rights investigations

At the 57th Session of the UN Human Rights Council, Humanists International has warned UN human rights investigators of the challenges of traditional, historical, religious and cultural attitudes.

The statement was delivered by Humanists International’s European Advocacy Officer, Tania Giacomuzzi Mota by video. The statement was made at the Annual Panel Discussion on the integration of a gender perspective throughout the work of the Human Rights Council and that of its mechanisms.

Read more at https://humanists.international/2024/10/humanists-international-warns-of-misuse-of-religion-as-a-barrier-in-un-human-rights-investigations/

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2024/10/21
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How Can We All Become Better, More Conscientious Humans?

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2024/10/21
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Fleeing sexual Apartheid under Islamic Regimes

Rahaf al-Qunun is singular in her courage and tenacity. Yet she is not the first and will not be the last woman to attempt to flee sexual apartheid under Islamic regimes.

In April 2017, Dina Ali Lasloom, a Saudi Arabian woman, attempted to flee an arranged marriage and leave her family in Kuwait to seek asylum in Australia. But she was stopped at the airport in the Philippines by customs officials who seized her passport and prevented her from boarding her connecting flight because her uncles — supposedly empowered by Saudi guardianship laws — were on their way to take her back to Saudi Arabia.

Just a few weeks after Lasloom was deported back to Saudi Arabia, in May 2017 sisters Areej and Ashwaq al-Harby also attempted to flee from Saudi Arabia to Turkey. The sisters said that they were being physically abused by their family and being forced to live as prisoners in their own homes.

Find more stories of escaping sexual apartheid here: https://humanists.international/blog/rahaf-was-not-the-first-woman-to-flee-sexual-apartheid-and-she-wont-be-the-last/

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2024/10/18
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Modern Day Humanists

Hi everyone! I’m hoping that I can receive some help from you all! I’m a high school social studies teacher and I’m teaching about Renaissance Humanism. For one of my lessons I thought it would be interesting to see how the concept of humanism has changed since then. I’ve found passages from the Renaissance but I’m struggling to find ones for modern day. (For example, I have an excerpt from Hamlet and Don Quixote.) I would love to have some input for ideas for our modern-day humanists! Thanks!!

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2024/10/17
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Humanists International has warned UN human rights investigators of the challenges of traditional, historical, religious and cultural attitudes.

At the 57th Session of the UN Human Rights Council, Humanists International has warned UN human rights investigators of the challenges of traditional, historical, religious and cultural attitudes.

The statement was delivered by Humanists International’s European Advocacy Officer, Tania Giacomuzzi Mota by video.

The statement was made at the Annual Panel Discussion on the integration of a gender perspective throughout the work of the Human Rights Council and that of its mechanisms.

Read more at https://humanists.international/2024/10/humanists-international-warns-of-misuse-of-religion-as-a-barrier-in-un-human-rights-investigations/

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2024/10/16
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At UN, Humanists call for protection of women and children in Slovakia

In a joint statement made at the UN Human Rights Council, Humanists International and ETHOS Slovakia have called for the protection of reproductive rights, LGBTI+ rights, and children’s rights.

The statement was delivered by Andrej Lúčny, Chairman of ETHOS, an Associate organization of Humanists International. Lúčny made the intervention via video at the 57th session of the Human Rights Council during the adoption of Slovakia’s Universal Periodic Review (UPR)* report.

Read more at https://humanists.international/2024/10/at-un-humanists-call-for-protection-of-women-and-children-in-slovakia/

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2024/10/14
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At UN, Humanists highlight human rights issues in New Zealand

In a joint statement made at the UN Human Rights Council, the Humanist Society of New Zealand, the New Zealand Association of Rationalists and Humanists, and Humanists International have commended progress on human rights issues in New Zealand, while warning against risks to advancements.

The statement was delivered by Mark Honeychurch, Vice President of the Humanists Society of New Zealand, a member organisation of Humanists International.

Read more here: https://humanists.international/2024/10/at-un-humanists-highlight-human-rights-issues-in-new-zealand/

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2024/10/11
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I thought of the perfect analogy this morning for why I identify as "Secular Humanist" and not "Atheist."

I'm kicking myself for not thinking of this sooner. I've lived in Texas for over twenty years. One of the first things I learned when I moved here is that if you order iced tea, the default that you get is "sweet tea." If you want iced tea without a metric ton of sugar in it, you have to specify "unsweet tea."

That's asinine if you think about it. Shouldn't the base state for tea be just "tea" and "sweet tea" be the abnormal variant?

"Atheism" is the "unsweet tea" of declarations of belief. It makes no sense. I shouldn't have to justify why my belief system lacks an adulterant. The burden should be on theists to defend why they feel the need to pour all that theistic sweetener into their philosophy.

That's why I'm a Secular Humanist (with capitals) first and an atheist (lower-case) a distant second.

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2024/10/10
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Humanists Malaysia is ratified as a member of Humanists International

During the General Assembly, when Andrew Copson, President of Humanists International, announced that Humanists Malaysia was ratified as a member of Humanists International, I suddenly felt like I was in a great, big family of like-minded people.

I was a closeted humanist for many, many years. However, after living life and observing how other people live, I have concluded that religion divides humanity and the belief in gods certainly does not further the evolution of humankind.

I hope that the work we do at Humanists Malaysia will outlast the current members and myself because humanism is important for Malaysia and undoubtedly, for the rest of the world.

Read more at https://humanists.international/blog/we-are-humanists-malaysia/

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2024/10/09
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Are there any Carl Sagan books you wouldn’t recommend in the 21st Century?

To this point, I have only read The Demon-Haunted World from Carl Sagan’s works, and I rate it very, very highly. I’d like to read more of his books, but I’m wondering if any of them would be counter-productive because the science has moved on so much in the decades since they were written?

Are there any you would particularly recommend?

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2024/10/08
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At the 57th Session of the UN Human Rights Council, Humanists International calls on the interim government of Bangladesh to investigate human rights abuses and to ensure the protection of fundamental rights

At the 57th Session of the UN Human Rights Council, Ahmedur Tutul Chowdhury, on behalf of Humanists International, called on the interim government of Bangladesh to investigate human rights abuses and to ensure the protection of fundamental rights.

His statement, delivered during a General Debate, focused on the killing of protestors and the persecution of secular bloggers and religious minorities.

The statement highlighted the need for accountability following the deaths of hundreds of protestors, many of whom were allegedly killed by police in extrajudicial actions.

Read more at https://humanists.international/2024/09/at-un-tutul-chowdhury-calls-for-respect-of-freedom-of-expression-in-bangladesh/

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2024/10/07
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Secular Bereavement Groups

I am non-religious and recently lost my husband. I am trying out a couple different bereavement groups, but as I search, I cant seem to find any in-person secular groups. GriefShare has some great tools and program structure, but ultimately is faith-based. I am also trying a group that is based on cancer related losses, but the group has no real structure and seems more like a place for people to trauma dump vs offering strategies.

I live in a large suburb of a big city and still cant seem to find any humanist or even unitarian bereavement groups. I saw Grief Beyond Belief facebook page, but it doesn't seem to be very active or offer any in person regional groups.

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2024/10/05
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DIY Humanist Holidays: Eikas and Your Own "Cycle of the Seasons"

As a humanist, I've often found myself yearning for meaningful holidays to punctuate the year. Like many others, I crave those special moments where we can pause, reflect, and celebrate the things that matter most: our connections, our achievements, and our shared humanity. But there’s a catch - many of the major holidays in the English-speaking world are rooted in religious traditions. Christmas and Easter, for example, carry warm nostalgic memories, but it’s become harder for me to connect with them on a deeper level now.

Some friends of mine have gone the Neopagan route, embracing the celebrations of the Wheel of the Year - a calendar of eight seasonal festivals that honor the solstices, equinoxes, and the points between them. It’s a lovely approach, blending nature and community, but I wanted something that was distinctly humanist: a way to celebrate reason, friendship, and shared values without invoking mysticism or deities.

Enter: Eikas  -  A Feast for Friendship and Reason

That’s when I stumbled upon an ancient tradition that seemed perfect: Eikas. The term comes from the Greek word for the twentieth (εἰκάς), and it was celebrated by the followers of the philosopher Epicurus. Every month, on the 20th, Epicureans would gather to enjoy a feast with friends, engage in thoughtful conversation, and strengthen the bonds of community - all in honor of friendship, reason, and shared humanity. This simple yet profound ritual was meant to remind us of the joys of companionship and the pursuit of a well-lived life.

Fast forward a couple of millennia, and in 2014, Luis Granados wrote a compelling article suggesting a revival of the Eikas tradition for modern humanists. His idea? Set aside one day a month to connect with friends - perhaps over a shared meal - and use it as a mini-holiday to celebrate our human ties. I call it a “Dinner Date Eikas.” This modest but meaningful idea instantly resonated with me, but I wanted to take it even further.

Building a Full Humanist Calendar

It struck me that Eikas has the potential to become the foundation of a humanist “Cycle of the Seasons.” With the solstices and equinoxes all conveniently landing within a few days of the 20th of their respective months, there’s already a natural alignment for some bigger celebrations. But why stop there? I wanted to create a more comprehensive holiday cycle that would bring joy, connection, and meaning throughout the entire year.

So I began experimenting, blending the Eikas tradition with a few new ideas.

Half-Holidays: Double the Joy, Double the Connection

One concept that excited me was half-holidays. You’ve probably heard of half-birthdays - a fun tradition where people celebrate exactly six months after their actual birthday, often because their birthday coincides with major holidays or because they just want an extra excuse to have cake. After the COVID-19 pandemic disrupted my own holiday rhythms and limited gatherings, I started embracing half-holidays as a way to see the people I love more frequently. Imagine it: each major celebration gets a smaller “echo” six months later, giving you twice the opportunities to connect and celebrate.

For me, half-holidays don’t just mean celebrating twice as often - they also carry a deeper reminder: our time with loved ones is precious and fleeting. We shouldn’t wait for just one day a year to show appreciation for the people we care about. So, my Eikas calendar now includes four main Eikas holidays - one for each solstice, equinoxes - paired with three half-holidays that bring an extra dose of joy and connection throughout the year.

(It's worth noting that I only celebrate half-Thanksgiving on it's proper half-month. For Half-Halloween, I decided to go with Summerween, and for half-Christmas, I went with Christmas in July, since these were already existing concepts.)

Roman Themes and Humanist Creativity

To make my Eikas Cycle more engaging, I took inspiration from another source: the major Roman holidays. The Romans, like us, loved a good excuse to throw a party, and their calendar was brimming with festivals, each with its own unique flavor. I decided to borrow some themes and adapt them to reflect modern humanist values. (No goats sacrificed here, I promise!) For example, February's Eikas could take inspiration from the Roman Parentalia, focusing on departed ancestors. March’s Eikas, aligning with the equinox, could be inspired by Cerealia, a time of agricultural renewal and growth.

The Eikas Calendar: My Personal Cycle of the Seasons

Here’s the complete Eikas calendar I’ve created, blending ancient traditions and modern humanist themes. Each Eikas on the 20th of every month is an opportunity to reflect on a unique aspect of life, inspired by a mix of Roman holidays, seasonal changes, and my own desire for a meaningful cycle of humanist celebrations.

  • January 20 - Reflections Eikas: Inspired by Agonalia of Janus. Named after the two-faced god Janus, this Eikas marks a time for beginnings and reflections - perfect for looking back at the past year’s lessons and planning new ventures for the months ahead.
  • February 20 - Ancestral Eikas: Inspired by Parentalia. A day to honor family bonds and ancestral remembrance. Take time to reconnect with loved ones, share stories of family history, and reflect on the legacies that shape our lives.
  • March 20 - Renewal Eikas: Inspired by Cerealia. Celebrating the Vernal Equinox, this Eikas is all about growth and new beginnings. Whether you’re planting seeds - literally or figuratively - this is the time to nurture fresh ideas and embrace the vibrant energy of spring.
  • April 20 - Floral Eikas: Inspired by Floralia. Celebrate the beauty of flowers, creativity, and the joy of renewal. This Eikas is a tribute to the colorful, fleeting wonders of springtime - perfect for garden parties, art projects, or simply taking time to appreciate the beauty around us.
  • May 20 - Gratitude Eikas: Inspired by Half-Thanksgiving. A mid-year celebration of gratitude and community. Take this opportunity to express appreciation for the people and blessings in your life, and share a meal with friends or family.
  • June 20 - Hearth Eikas: Inspired by Vestalia and Summerween. This Summer Solstice Eikas honors hearth, home, and playful celebration. Think of it as a blend of the warmth of summer with the mischief of a midsummer Halloween - perfect for both introspection and a bit of lighthearted fun.
  • July 20 - Generosity Eikas: Inspired by Summer Christmas (Christmas in July.) A celebration of joy and generosity, echoing the spirit of the winter holiday season, but in the heart of summer. Share gifts, spread kindness, and bring a little bit of that “Christmas cheer” into your sunny days.
  • August 20 - Nature Eikas: Inspired by Nemoralia. A day for connecting with nature, inspired by the Roman festival honoring Diana. Take a long walk, go camping, or just spend time appreciating the outdoors and reflecting on humanity’s relationship with the natural world.
  • September 20 - Harvest Eikas: Inspired by Consualia. With the Autumn Equinox approaching, celebrate the rewards of hard work and the fruits of labor - whether that’s a literal harvest from your garden or symbolic achievements in other areas of your life.
  • October 20 - Transformation Eikas: Inspired by Halloween. A celebration of transformation and embracing the mysterious. Engage with the playful side of change through costumes, storytelling, or simply reflecting on the cycles of transformation in nature and life.
  • November 20 - Thanksgiving Eikas: Inspired by the modern Thanksgiving. A day dedicated to gratitude and communal feasting. Share a meal, express thanks for the good things in your life, and focus on fostering connections with those around you.
  • December 20 - Gift-giving Eikas: Inspired by Saturnalia and Christmas. Marking the end of the year with joy, generosity, and reflection, this Eikas blends the festive spirit of Saturnalia with the warmth of Christmas, celebrating light, kindness, and the closing of another cycle.

Join the Humanist Holiday Revolution!

There’s no one way to build a humanist calendar. That’s the beauty of it - it’s all about what brings you joy, meaning, and connection. Maybe you want to start small, with just a monthly “Dinner Date Eikas” like Granados suggested. Or maybe you’re ready to create your own full cycle of celebrations, like I have. Whatever approach you take, I hope Eikas can be a canvas for your creativity and a way to reclaim the magic of the seasons for yourself.

Let’s embrace this chance to build new traditions that reflect our values. After all, the best holidays are the ones that celebrate the things we truly cherish - and that’s something worth gathering for.

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2024/10/04
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Humanists International condemns the violation of human rights in Burundi at the 57th Session of the UN Human Rights Council

At the 57th Session of the UN Human Rights Council**, Humanists International voiced serious concerns about the state of human rights in Burundi**.

In a statement delivered by Peter Dankwa of the Humanist Association of Ghana, they called for immediate action to address violations, particularly regarding women’s rights, LGBTI+ rights, and freedom of expression.

The intervention followed a report by the UN Special Rapporteur on Burundi, documenting widespread human rights abuses.

Read more at https://humanists.international/2024/09/at-un-humanists-international-calls-on-burundi-to-uphold-human-rights-amidst-crackdowns/

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2024/10/04
15:05 UTC

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Anyone a Fantasy Fan?

I'm posting this here bc the topic touches on morality, and how the way we perceive it has changed with our modern humanistic view of morality. I'm a huge fan of the fantasy genre, and I stumbled upon this interesting YT vid: https://youtu.be/pq-HDpqQeSw?si=gDqO-q-ZCRDYkqsE

If you don't want to watch the 40 minute vid, here's the tldr:

This YTer Josh talks about a few different aspects of the fantasy genre, but the one that's relevant to Humanism is classic fantasy v elevated fantasy. In classic fantasy, from the ancient myths of Greece, etc to modern fantasy stories like Nimona, both heroes and villains are pretty flat and morality is pretty simple. The hero pursues some destiny bc it's his destiny, and the story doesn't care about his internal thoughts or motivations -- instead the hero's motivations are symbolically externalized to the gods and monsters that pull him this way or that. Heroes are sort of empty vessels for the gods/forces that pull their strings, and villains are not so much characters as archetypal evils.

In classic fantasy, there's little in the way of social/political commentary, at least from our modern perspective. Aragorn finally taking up the throne of Gondor and living happily ever after isn't an endorsement of feudal monarchy -- it's simply him fulfilling his destiny, and good guys winning.

With the transition from earlier eras to modernity, the novel is invented as a form of literature, and novels are focused on the internal thoughts and motivations of the protagonist at the very least. The romantic and then the fantasy genres are invented, as a bridge to an illusory past that we're nostalgic for, because so many of us feel alienated from the modern world. (I know I do!)

This all leads to the emergence of elevated fantasy, where heroes and villains have relatable motivations. The hero isn't questing just to fulfill some destiny -- she has a personal motivation to face the villain, even if that motivation is as simple as revenge or saving the world. She often questions herself, or is morally gray. The villain isn't evil just bc she likes to maniacally laugh -- she has a definable and even relatable motivation, even if it's as simple as being greedy or power-hungry. Oftentimes, she simply believes she's doing the right thing.

In elevated fantasy, there is often a lot of social/political commentary, though it often simply asks questions of our modern societies without definitively answering those questions. Is the technologically advanced socially progressive feudal monarchy of Nimona a utopia or a dystopia?

Josh then coins a new term -- enlightened fantasy, which is a blend of the first two. He argues that fantasy is best when a story is enlightened -- when heroes do have internal relatable motivations, but they also live in a world of symbolic forces that represent morality, where there are archetypal evils to defeat, and where the hero in some way ascends from a mundane mortal into some type of archetypal good. Think Star Wars, where Luke begins the story as a frustrated dirt farmer, and at the story's end becomes a sort of archetypal demigod by restraining his Human passions.

There's more to the vid than that and it's super insightful and interesting, but this is the stuff that relates to morality. I find myself looking back on the stories that I love, and agreeing with Josh. I would love to read or watch a story where the hero begins as a mundane dude who lacks moral clarity, gains in understanding as the story progresses, and then defeats an unambiguously evil villain by achieving moral clarity and some sort of transcendence! It would fit so perfectly my modern moral sensibilities, while scratching that fantasy itch!

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2024/10/03
06:44 UTC

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Humanists International condemns Venezuela's crackdown on activists

At the 57th Session of the UN Human Rights Council, Humanists International has condemned Venezuela’s crackdown on activists and called for international scrutiny of the country’s elections.

Humanists International has raised alarm over the escalating repression of civil society and political activists in Venezuela. Leon Langdon, the organization’s Advocacy Officer, delivered a statement during the Interactive Dialogue with the International Fact-Finding Mission on Venezuela.

Read more at https://humanists.international/2024/09/at-un-humanists-international-calls-for-the-preservation-of-democracy-in-venezuela/

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2024/10/02
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