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I Need Your Help: Building an Elite MAG/WAG/RG Injury and Retirement spread sheet

I decided to add a set of injury/retirement notes to my massive score tracking spread sheet but I remember all of that on my own. I've done what I could remember from memory so if you could look through this spread sheet and add notes for gymnasts you are familiar with I'd appreciate it! The sheet should have open editing access.

The list is built using FIG licenses at the start of 2025 and anyone who has competed in an elite meet in the 2025 CoP. There will be some junior names on the senior lists because of FIG licenses and the junior sheets themselves only mark those which have competed in this CoP.

Things I need notes for:

  • Has this gymnast had a major injury (which kept or will keep them out of competition for at least 4 months) since the start of 2024?

  • Has this gymnast announced their retirement?

  • Did this gymnast used to compete for another country?

  • What is the birth year of this junior gymnast? If the sheet just lists "Junior" or "Hopes 13-14" and you know their birth year please replace the general category with the specific year.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/180jpPrDUErL8oE81_qy3ZYefhQbk94cKdqpw5p3oQ3g/edit?usp=sharing

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2025/02/01
22:30 UTC

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Trinity Brown (Clemson) ruptured her Achilles, out for remainder of season 😭

Haven’t seen anyone talking about this yet, but I’m so sad for Trinity. She’s such a beautiful gymnast with huge dynamic power.

She did a floor exhibition last night and landed her first tumbling pass really short. It was heartbreaking. Clemson had just come from behind and won right before this and it went from level 100 noise in the coliseum to absolute silence.

Sending her so much love.

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2025/02/01
22:02 UTC

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Clemson floor

Molly Arnold changed her floor routine back to last years routine!!!! I love it! It’s so much more dynamic and crowd engaging than the routine she had previously done this season. Props to Molly!! One of my favorite routines ever.

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2025/02/01
21:49 UTC

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UCLA Leo’s

I’m sorry but UCLA is addicted to making those girls dress like old ladies with old lady flower patterns I’m sorry okay

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2025/02/01
20:35 UTC

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Is this the most competitive era of NCAA gymnastics?

In the last 12 years, 4 teams have won their first NCAA title (Florida 2013, Oklahoma 2014, Michigan 2021, LSU 2024). Also, many traditional forces have been struggling (Alabama, Georgia) at the profit of emerging forces (OSU, LSU, Cal, Denver). It used to be all about Alabama, UGA, UCLA, Utah and now there are more and more competitive teams than ever. I think there's an "offspring effect", where gymnasts from the traditional forces become coaches in less known programs and start to recruit top gymnasts. Tanya Service Chaplin, who has led the OSU Beavers to new heights, was a UCLA gymnast, so was Rhonda Faehn, who led the Florida program to 3 NCAA titles.

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2025/02/01
20:25 UTC

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Elite Score Leaders for the Week of 2/2/25

This week we only had one elite meet added, the Buckeye Elite Qualifier for WAG so I'm only including WAG sheets this time. Because we haven't had any 2 vault scores for a while this week I've added the single vault scores.

Senior Single VT

Senior UB

Senior BB

Senior FX

Senior AA

Junior Single VT

Junior UB

Junior BB

Junior FX

Junior AA

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2025/02/01
15:35 UTC

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SEC Championships

The lowest ranked SEC team that would miss championships (Arkansas) would currently be ranked #3 in the Big 10 and ACC, and #2 in the Big 12. I understand the whole "iron sharpens iron" and making conference championships matter mentality, but it seems like it hurts the championships to leave out a team that is that good/competitive nationally.

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2025/02/01
15:26 UTC

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NCAA Discussion Posts | Week 5 | Saturday 02/01/25

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2025/02/01
15:01 UTC

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Are there any Gymnastics gyms near central NJ for people older than 10?

All I'm finding id stuff for little kids. I'm tryin to get my son of 14 more into ninja warrior stuff but all the parkour gyms closed after the pandemic.

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2025/02/01
12:49 UTC

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Does anyone else in the UK (or even anywhere) agree that it is quite hard to get out of recreational classes and get onto a competitive squad?

i genuinely don't know if this is something only i experienced because its never rlly talked abt

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2025/02/01
08:31 UTC

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Denver Gym

So I know people have touched on Denver in here before, but after this meet, I wanted to again. Denver is my favorite team and it’s really upsetting seeing what happening this year.

My question is why are they doing so poorly this year? I still love the team, but I feel like there isn’t an apparent reason for them to be messing up so much. The only person they lost was Jessica Hutchinson, who was absolutely huge for the program, but they still had other impressive girls and leaders in the other four seniors.

This year every single athlete has done poorly in at least one meet. Their vault has been sort of consistent, but they are not scoring over 9.9 and are averaging from 9.775-9.85. They have also had some falls on the vault. On bars they’ve done well overall (it is undoubtably their best event) not having many falls. They’ve only had one so far, but they are far from their bars scores from last year. I do know that scoring has been tighter, obviously, but it’s still crazy to me.

Now the problem events; beam and floor. Beam is so strange to me because this was their best event two seasons ago, but now they seem to just collapse the second they get there. Their first week they had three falls (sooo uncharacteristic), second week they had a fall with Ulrich hitting the beam on her dismount, third week they didn’t fall but they had low ish scores, fourth week they had two falls and three scores in the 9.600s, and this week they had two falls and didn’t score over 9.875.

Onto floor, the lineups have been so inconsistent here, which is very frustrating in my opinion. Mabanta fell in the first two weeks, then was taken out of the lineup until this week where she got a 9.625. They’ve also taken Iwai out a couple of weeks which doesn’t make sense to me because she’s had consistent scores.

I feel like something is off with the team overall with girls who don’t make mistakes typically, making them over and over again. Mabanta has made some off mistakes for her. Aside from that, Casali has been thrown in and out of lineups constantly, making mistakes every so often.

I do want to say that I love the team a lot and hope they can overcome whatever they are personally facing. I think that this group is so incredibly talented and I love watching them every week, regardless of mistakes. I also want to add that I am so happy for Cecilia Cooley because she has been doing insanely well, with some of the best scores on the team consistently.

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2025/02/01
04:14 UTC

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NCAA gym vlogs

Hello ! I noticed more and more NCAA gymnasts are vlogging their journeys this year which I think is so cool. As someone who isn’t from the US I love the behind the scenes of what it’s like to be a a student athlete. I’m listing the ones are aware of, and please share any other ones I missed, I think we should all support their efforts ! So far, there is Paige Anastasi, Emma Malabuyo and Bronwyn Hoffman from UCLA, Ady Wahl from Georgia, Kayla Dicello from Florida (I swear there’s another gator vlogging but I just can’t remember who), Aleah Finnegan And Livvy Dunne from LSU (although they haven’t posted lately), Julia Bedell from Brown.

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2025/01/31
23:43 UTC

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A first for a basketball school

So I’m getting ready to drive to Lexington for the Kentucky Auburn meet Go Cats! And it’s on instagram that memorial coliseum is a sell out for tonight. That was announced yesterday. I am so happy most of the sports ball fans are taking about the Lexington Hog Bbq for tomorrow but Gymnastics is a sell out for tonight!!! I am so happy!!!

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2025/01/31
19:42 UTC

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Buckeye Classic National Elite Qualifier

The following gymnasts achieved the qualifying score to Winter Cup and Classics at the Buckeye Classic National Elite Qualifier. New qualifiers are marked with an *.

Junior (49.0 AA)
Kylie Smith / Cincinnati/ 51.2*
Amia Pugh-Banks/ World Class/ 49.45*
Elaina Sliney/ Cincinnati/ 49.3*
Addy VanGrinsven/ Pacific Reign/ 49.0*

Senior (51.0 AA / 39.3 3 events / 26.6 2 events)
Isabel Stassi/ Gym X-treme/ 53.45*
Jayla Hang/ Pacific Reign/ 51.55
Brynn Torry/ World Class/ 51.05

Side notes:
• Jordis Eichman competed for the first time in 2 years and got a 49.850 with what looks like a rough floor, possibly with a fall. I believe the last time she competed was the 2023 Winter Cup.
• Catherine Guy/ Pacific Reign/ 50.1
• Simone Rose/ Pacific Reign/ 49.45
• Kelise Woolford/ Buckeye/ 48.95
• Alessia Rosa/ Hills/ 48.9
• Camie Westerman/ Hills/ 48.9
• Pacific Reign had a total of 9 gymnasts competing at the elite qualifier: Audrey VanGrinsven (H10/11 - qualified), Paisley Ritger (H13/14 - qualified), Addy VanGrinsven (Jr - qualified), Simone Seed (Jr), Elisabeth Antone (Jr), Espy Chang (qualified H13/14 but competed in the jr elite divison) + Jayla, Catherine and Simone (Sr)

Full results

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2025/01/31
19:02 UTC

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NCAA Discussion Posts | Week 5 | Friday 01/31/25

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2025/01/31
17:03 UTC

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Gymnasts in their last year that you will miss the most

Personally, it would have to be Audrey Davis. Her bars are so crisp, her casts to handstand are almost always vertical. She does a piked jaeger higher than anyone else in the NCAA and gets that double front 1/2 landing most of the time (I don't care that much about the cowboying TBH, 99,9% of gymnasts cowboy their leg when doing it. The Chinese are the only gymnasts I know who can do a double front with their legs glued together). Her half pirouette on the low bar is the gold standard.

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2025/01/31
14:11 UTC

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Article about Hollie Vise's journey at OU

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/news/story?id=3820283

This article is old, but still valuable to understand why some gymnasts struggle to transition from elite to NCAA. It explains that Hollie not making the 2004 team was her "ground zero". She lost her passion for gymnastics afterwards. Steve Nunno took her only for beam, but when KJ Kindler took over the program (one of the best NCAA decisions by an AD ever), she thought Hollie was too talented to only do one event. However, she couldn't even do a cast to handstand. KJ explains that she had to redefine Hollie's expectation of success to find passion in gymnastics again. It's a sweet article. It shows that Miss Val isn't the only coach who can help burnt out elite gymnasts to find passion in gymnastics again. At the end, Hollie explains that the team aspect of NCAA helped her realize that gymnastics shouldn't be her whole life.

It's ironic that OU got the reputation of winning championships with "ninja level 10s", since for the last 10 years, she has recruited more and more elite gymnasts. I guess it's just that most of the elite gymnasts she recruits aren't necessarily eye-catching.

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2025/01/31
14:03 UTC

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NCAA order for men’s home team?

I am helping with an event, and want to make sure I have this information correct. When there is a tri-meet, the home team will rotate in Olympic order- floor, pommel horse, rings, vault, parallel bars, and horizontal bar. Is that correct?

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2025/01/31
00:13 UTC

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Last US MAG Winter Cup Qualifiers. USAG says that registered participant lists will come next week

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2025/01/30
21:09 UTC

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Protecting gymnasts from ICE as a coach??

I feel fully insane having to ask this but has anyone had any discussions on the logistics of protecting gymnasts from ICE?? I've seen lots of discussion from school teachers, but it mostly revolves around sending any officers to school admin and most gyms are run SO much more unofficially than schools.

Background - I coach rec only, haven't heard of any ICE activity in my city so far but I live in a pretty large city so I feel it's only a matter of time. I have no idea how likely it is that they'd target a gym but I feel like I need to have at least a vague idea on how to be prepared. I don’t want to ask gym leadership as they are to my knowledge very conservative and have also poked fun at me for being a "worry wart" in the past for asking about protocols for things like natural disasters or active sh00ters.

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2025/01/30
20:57 UTC

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Things we're waiting on until a FIG meeting at the end of February....

A bunch of admin stuff has been happening, but also not happening at the same time with FIG and I thought it was worth explaining why. FIG's major ongoing decision makers are something called the Executive Committee. They were elected last fall and their term started January 1, 2025 and they will meet for the first time February 26-27. At that meeting a lot of things will be decided including how to do things between their in person meetings.

There are at least 4 things that are or are very likely up in the air until that point:

  1. Updates to the AIN list (and also potentially updates to the AIN rules which were last set in December 2023). Because the approval of AIN athletes isn't done by a permeant structure in FIG it has to be re-constituted with the new administration. We know that the Russians have submitted a list of artistic gymnasts (including 9 WAGs that include Listunova and Melnikova). We can expect a lot of these athletes to be approved but some (like Melnikova) would require FIG to weaken the AIN rules to be approved. They're all in limbo before this meeting. Some people have been seeing Russian gymnasts talk about being visited by WADA and assuming they've already been approved. This is a misunderstanding of the steps in the process. They have to be in the testing pool (and have at least one test conducted by the International Testing Authority) before they're approved. And many of these athletes including Listunova and Melnikova are competing in Series A which would require them to be drug tested anyway. So all of that is to say... everyone waits. You, me, the Russians, the Ukrainians. No one knows what's going to happen there until the end of February.
  2. Country changes. Normally this can be done by telephone between EC meetings but since the EC hasn't met yet this term ... they also have to wait. For most cases this wont matter but for any athlete who is being placed on a hold by their previous federation (looking at you Ukraine) that hold will not start until the EC approves the change. There are at least 2 and potentially 3 Ukrainians changing nationalities. Kovton is likely NOT one of the ones in this delay because Croatia says it will take 2 months for him to get his passport though when he's actually approved may actually impact his 2026 season depending on when 2026 Euros are actually scheduled.
  3. Approving the 2025 FIG Jr Artistic World Championships being added to the schedule. We have a date and a host according to the Philippines gymnastics federation but it's not shown on the FIG calendar yet. This is one of those things the committee has to approve.
  4. And last... Syque Caesar. Okay this is a weird story. Syque Caesar is a former Bangladesh Olympian and a judge and coach in the US MAG system. To explain what happened I'll give a timeline. Caesar was an athlete and was licensed for Bangladesh. He retired from competing and became a MAG judge for the US (now for a couple of quads). Except you are only supposed to be licensed for 1 country at a time and when he changed over from being an athlete for Bangladesh to being a judge for the US neither he nor USAG appear to have realized they needed to do a formal country change. To be clear... this is on both him and USAG but obviously USAG more because they knew he had been an athlete for another country. It's not actually FIG's fault. They can't assume every person with the same name is the same guy no matter how unusual the name is to your ears. They have to assume their member feds wont be stupid enough to try and apply for a duplicate license. So nothing much happens here until he apparently mentioned to a family member associated with the Bangladesh gym fed that he'd love to judge for them some day. And so Bangladesh told FIG to send them his test results. Except that is ALSO not how this is supposed to work. They knew they hadn't paid for or sent him to the exam. And that casual conversation wasn't him telling them he wanted to change to judge for them now. He wants to continue his career judging for the US. And ALL of this has to be sorted by the EC too. Who is likely drink a lot of wine and eat a lot of chocolate and mumble darkly about how the hell this happened. Until they do he's unlicensed.
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2025/01/30
20:02 UTC

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USAG Message in Support for the US Figure Skating Community (posted on on their socials)

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2025/01/30
18:31 UTC

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Planned routines you wish you could have seen

Rewatching the 2008 olympics, the commentators talked about Ksenia Semenova's bars and mention that she had an upgraded routine planned for bars final that she ended up not doing. I wonder what that bar routine was. Maybe she planned on doing an inbar 3/2 before the jaeger, which she did in 2009 before her injury at worlds.

50 Comments
2025/01/30
17:33 UTC

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