/r/gearaddictionsupport
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/r/gearaddictionsupport
I am stuck in a situation where I have to pick between the two. I'm considering the aesthetical and functionality and need help in deciding.
I got a new pedalboard. I keep rearranging my things when things get tough and I want to act on addiction again. Had some personal set backs in my life. But thankful I'm still sober (not just from pedals). I like my rig now. I want another guitar as I discovered a tuning that works for me. That's always exciting.
Here's a spot to share your goals/resolutions/aspirations. If you know what your goals were last year, share those too!
Seeing how everyone is doing. I finally have reached a weird stage where there is nothing left for me to own. I have settled on a two board setup since October / November. My debt will be paid off by the end of the month. I could buy another Orange Super Crush since my backup CR120 had a switch go out so it will sporadically jump to the clean channel and nothing I do gets it back to the distortion channel without messing with the cables in the back. But that's more of a practical thing. I'm also just settling into the Super Crush first.
My biggest issue is my unhappiness.
It's hard to blunt the feelings you have to feel when you have no coping mechanism. I'm realizing how unhappy I am at my job and coming up on actual sobriety for 18 months (minus one terrible slip up) means I just have to deal with the u happiness and face it. It's funny how addiction is a safety net. Sobriety means you have to feel your feelings and kind of feel all of them without being dulled down. So Thankfully I have my wife in my corner. So I might be starting new job soon, or I might be unemployed for three months since I almost rage quit Thursday of last week. But this is just how it goes.
BUT, I'm doing my best to stay the course. It's tough when my gear addiction is a preferable coping mechanism to other much worse addictions, but there is a time where I have to accept its all rooted in unhappiness and feeling of discontent.
So for now I am sober, but I have to admit it's easier to fall into a hobby that makes me feel good. I did actually spend money now that I think about it on new knobs for my guitars and locking tuners. So maybe that's not sobriety yet. But the guitars feel better and I'm happy. Sometimes the little moments of happiness are the best we get.
After not buying anything for a few months, I came across a deal for 4 Boss pedals, a fulltone, and a ditto looper on an old pedaltrain with cables and one spot for $280. I jumped on it.
I realized recently that pedals make me happy. Having a board locked in makes me very happy. Trying new pedal combinations and making weird sounds is a joy. Boss pedals in particular, are just a very satisfying experience.
I know I started this sub for the reasons we all know, but I've decided to start collecting again. But focusing on Boss. Boss just makes great pedals, and everything about them are just fun. I already had a PS-6 hanging around for when I wanted to do some whammy stuff, and the 4 new Boss pedals bring my collection to 5. I traded off some others, and soon I'll be up to 10. And I'm really happy!
The hardest part of this whole thing, is how you have to take time and look at yourself and reflect on addiction at times. Sometimes, you have to stop, ask yourself if what you are doing is addiction or just something you actually want. And maybe it is addiction, but addiction is mostly defined as a behavior that causes negative repercussions within your life that you are enslaved to without escape. It is more of an obsession or perhaps a compulsion.
As an addict beyond simple gear addiction, I have learned the hardest part is when you begin recovery you have to learn to feel whatever it is that you feel without replacing that feeling or diluting it with these other feelings. Buying gear for me is the most temporary solution. It forces me to be sober from the worst of my addiction while still giving me the necessary hit of dopamine I need to get through a day.
So I bought everything. And the worst part is, even with the dream stuff, the things I have always wanted beyond the unattainable, with increased funds and less debt than ever before, there is still emptiness at the end of it. You look at a pile of things, but it doesn't fill the hole that addiction has made. There is no permanent fix by buying things.
There is only the inexhaustible well before you every time. You have to choose how to fix it.
I am going to try now to not buy any major gear for one year. I am recovering from addiction the same. It is amazing how much strength you find in time. But even one year later, I know I will feel the same empty thing, just one year sober.
Sobriety has to be its own sense of accomplishment. You work for it.
Now, I just have to work again.
I know addiction seems to come to a head with the new year, the holidays, everything going on. I can relate and need to try so.e new things lately. I have recently gone a little crazy myself. Thankfully cash was used for everything. But I'm sitting on two backorder/pre-order items. I changed my entire rig this year after holding steady for a long time. So I am still fighting every day same as everyone here. Hope everyone else is still holding on with the upswing of COVID and crazy things happening in society.
I dont necessarily feel guilty, but I finally bit the bullet and started to replace my Randall amplifiers. I am worried it was an addictive purchase because i am generally satisfied with my Randall RG and mini stack with two speakers BUT, I did some research and I cannot keep playing the Randall's in this current economy especially knowing the amps are faulty in some ways. After three years, there are scratchy pots, bad wires, and just a little general issue. Is it fixable? Absolutely! But I did some research into the CR120s and knowing that those amplifiers are played by professionals in Crowbar, Red Fang, and no less than Kings X, I just absolutely had to bite the bullet. I bought the single 450 dollar head for now and if I like it, I will be selling the RGs and getting a backup slash possible stereo amp second head at the same cost.
It's hard because i want to come on here, almost as if for validation, but looking for validation in a purchase makes me feel I am looking instead for justification on an addiction.
I got a quarterly bonus at work. So i only spent roughly half of that so far. But i did end up with a third Schecter as well. But the guitar will NEVER be a regret. The moment I picked it up it felt like home. So in the end my credit is still low balance and my gear is changing over to reliable heavy duty better stuff.
Anyone else put so much thought into a purchase? What do you tend to do in that situation?
So, a few years ago i was your typical doom dildo. Loud Amp that was like $2000, the $2000 pedalboard of like 5 pedals, the $800 dropped tuned to C guitar. I had it all and all i did was noodle and play power chords for hours. I would buy a pedal, play it for a day, box it up and never be happy. I did this for years and there is no telling how much money i lost in the process from a stupid ass custom amp, custom pedals and all that shit. Anyway i beat my addiction. One night i realized i never really liked playing guitar. i decided to give it up to avoid anymore financial woes. But the best part is now i drum and only buy the occasional cymbal every few months. I am beating my addiction in a unorthodox way but i am super proud of myself. Thanks for reading my rambling ❤️
Not very proud of myself with this decision but, I still made it. Not very happy with the amount I spent either. I guess my only excuse is that I had a fellow musician buddy of mine come up and we were completely re-wiring our boards. Of course we were dwelling on the pedals we would like to have and which ones we were wanting to switch out. Had these pedals in the back of my mind for future purchases but they instead ended up being all purchased at once. It was a very impulse thing and I’m not super stoked on how much it cost me. Any advice on avoiding acting on impulse?
I don't really know what to post here other than saying thanks for existing and being around. I tried to contribute my thoughts and feelings I had about the line between obsession and hobby. Writing out these posts helped me realize my own feelings, helped me reflect. I also found the Lines forum and found a lot of other people posting about GAS and their feelings about it too which has been super cathartic to read through.
I got back into modular and am selling a lot of things I've been holding onto to consolidate around a few select things I need and selling everything I don't. I started obsessing with modulargrid over and over again swapping in modules and setups and dreaming of potential combinations of things, but I've quieted that side of me again after reconnecting with my guitar and learning how to use the neglected functions of the things I already have. I cut down the excessive rack to something easier to use and learn and it's worked out great for me.
I really like sound design. I think it's a ton of fun to spend all day tweaking parameters on a synth and discovering new sounds you've never heard before. It's like audio cooking. I've spent all my time learning synthesizers, learning sound design techniques, mixing and mastering techniques, researching plugins, researching modular gear, speaker equipment, pedals, hardware, and so on. I love all that stuff. Somewhere along this line, I just stopped making music and started cycling through musical gizmos. I used to feel bad that I wasn't "making music" but honestly I don't know who would care, as if there's some song per month quota to make it all worth it. I'm letting myself enjoy sound design for its own sake. Just have to focus on participation in learning my instruments than finding a new gizmo to add to the group. I posted 8 months ago that I wanted to have a depth year where I didn't change anything. Well now 8 months later I've gone more in-depth on two of my instruments and have sold mostly everything else that I had at the start of the year and got a small modular. So uhhh I guess uhhh... dunno, goals changed as I learned more about myself.
I don't feel like it really matters if I post all this or not, but I just wanted to say thanks for being around here. Helped me realize I was being excessive.
Weird month between June and July for me. I stayed away from new pedals but I did get a new pedalboard and a new case for it. Mixed there but since i have not been spending on anything i can keep my credit limit down and am paying off the balance each week so that's helping keep me in check. Have a health scare that has currently given me a new round of needing retail therapy. My wife is not worried and i have OCD so the health issue is probably nothing. But it has still scared me a bunch. No new guitars, no new amplifier heads. So my month has been mostly okay. Anyone else keeping it together?
Summer for me is a little easier. Have not been buying too much crap. I replaced my wah and volume with the wah and volume I have wanted for awhile. I told myself it was okay, celebrating the raise I got and having overtime hours like crazy. I'm still obsessive about debt, so good news is everything has been cash. My wife is supportive and helps me budget so things get paid off. I spent ALOT buying the right guitars for me. Finally settled on two Schecters. I still feel guilt about the spending but I am trying to push pause on it. Guess the combination of Tax return, Stimulus, and higher income suddenly made it worse. But it's not so bad. My tech for the first time told me there was nothing wrong with a guitar. They were new, so maybe it's okay to finally have a new guitar in my life. They had better specs than Ibanez standard RGs. So it's a bittersweet victory as I still feel guilty about spending the money. And I'm coming up on 6 mo this sober from a different and VERY real addiction (having relapsed in September). My wedding in October was the wake up call I needed. Finding happiness inherent in a moment made me look with a different perspective for sure. So it's good, just weird. But each day is better.
I've struggled with obsessive buying, selling, trading, and tinkering for the past two years. I think a lot of it is related to my mental health and dissatisfaction in other areas of my life. Those areas include my lack of professional/career-based progress and my inability to work on and complete my PhD dissertation.
I think some of it is also tied to impulse control. I have struggled with weight gain and loss and self-perception ever since I was a kid. I lost just over 100 pounds in undergrad and 7-8 years later I've gained it all back.
Grad school has completely destroyed my mental health, I think. It's hard for me to actually see that situation for what it is, but I have been feeling so aimless, so completely battered by the fog surrounding my future that I just don't know where to turn to.
I think guitar stuff became a bit of a distraction in that sense, a place to turn to. I could accomplish a pedal sale or trade, or rewire a board and feel like I was accomplishing something productive, when all I was actually doing was diverting my attention away from working on myself and just, I don't know, fuckin' dealing with my shit in a healthy way.
I still find myself trawling guitar-oriented subreddits like r/guitarpedals and r/offset, as well as opening up YouTube and watching demos of things I can't afford or might not even have an interest in. This is habitual and bums me out. It makes me feel like I'm one of BF Skinner's rats.
As for my own gear addiction, I don't really know where I'm at. Am I still addicted to the distraction? I own one guitar, one amp, and 10 pedals right now. I use everything I have and I don't have a desire to change anything right now, mainly because I'm just burnt out from it all. The overthinking, the process. I feel so completely drained by most information-rich social media that I just can't go down that route, for better or worse. YouTube, Instagram, even FB. It's too much.
At least with communities like these I can read full-length posts that are actually informational, reflective, and useful.
I'm not even sure why I am writing this out, or to whom. I suppose it's just helpful to materialize my thoughts a bit. Maybe some of you can relate and share your own experiences.
I don't need to buy anything, but I feel driven to buy stuff just for fun and novelty.
Got Biden bucks, funded the Folktek pedal kickstarter and saved the rest of it. That'll be coming in October. Pretty excited to have the funds to do that. I feel embarrassed I forgot I signed up for that when I'm supposed to be here preaching the good word about being happy with what you have, economic smart consumption, and what not. Demonizing buying stuff while living below your means when you get a stimulus check is not the conclusion I want to reach though.
Sold the rest of the pedals I had laying around including my boomerang looper (and a fuzz pedal and big power supply) which I've had for many many years, but I just wasn't using it and felt like the only reason I was keeping it around was I was going to feel bad if I got rid of it. Not because I'd miss it, but because it "means something to you and you will feel bad abandoning it" like it's some sort of heirloom, but I have no idea where that belief came from because I wasn't getting any enjoyment out of it for the past couple months because it wasn't being used. I only used it when I felt I should justify my ownership of it by forcing myself to use it. Same story for a guitar I owned for 5-6 years but never played. This was the most sentimental piece of gear I owned and now that it's gone, hey look at that, I really don't miss it at all.
A friend of mine was like "oh yeah but you have like sooooo many pedals" and then I was like "nah I sold all of them, I've just got one now" and they were like "OMG but you're the pedal guy! are you feeling okay? did something happen?" so if my identity is wrapped up in the things I own then I will never feel satisfied since companies can keep selling me things, especially if I look down on the things I own as obsolete, insufficient, unoptimized, compromising, dated, inferior, and so on. I realized that music producers have a similar problem collecting hundreds of $50 plugins for their DAW because they're professionals, but I'm not a pro, I don't want to be sold the idea that I am. The used scuffed mooer tube screamer clone with a broken knob sounds 80% similar to the authentic 1980 ultra rare authentic thing and that's good enough for me. This probably applies to any gear hobby.
Been trying to do more sound design and stuff, and I have wanted a sort of filter / distortion box for when I play with synths. I sold all this stuff, got some cash, wanted to get something with it because idk "that's what you do when you have extra money coming in" and thought about buying the crazy sherman filterbank 2 compact because it would fit a lot of "musical wants" I have right now. Signed up for a waiting list, checked the stock everyday waiting for an email about notifying me when it's in stock and then I found some other company had some in stock, but then didn't buy one. I realized it's extremely expensive for a thing I don't need when I can distort, filter, and modulate stuff already with the things I have. It is definitely something I'd use and enjoy, but do not need. So then I think, am I thinking way too hard about this and should just buy the damn thing and stop over analyzing the fuck out this thing you obviously want and can responsibly afford? But then I think, I'd be just as happy making music had I never known this thing existed in the first place and I can not lose $800. I think I just get to choose between these viewpoints because I don't need to justify owning or selling anything to anyone other than my own feelings. I don't want to spend hours trying to figure out the "right" decision that's "authentic and responsible" or something, this indecision is kind of the whole point I'm on this subreddit personally. So I'm just gunna not buy it and move on with my life.
This is a weird example where I start questioning why I want the things that I want and dive down a rabbit hole of postmodernism anti-consumption? personal responsibility? idk have a good april y'all
I had to sell alot of stuff since my last moment, but since I admitted to myself that I like certain things and that my two main guitars are basically guitars I can no longer maintain(the green Peavey ST7 has a bad ground at the bridge and the black has a shorted wire at the volume pot) I was kind of ignoring the problems and telling myself it was worth the fix. So now I am enjoying the better things, but this is NOT me saying what I did was justified in my own recovery. I spent 2800 over 2 months. I still feel low but I am starting to feel better. My beater guitar is now a new Ibanez RG7421. I might even get a second since I have the parts. But I will only do so if i am debt free and can pay cash. I have made further strides to knock credit score back up as well as keeping debt away. Of the 2800 I still have maintained savings from the stimulus as well as paid all but 300. So, I have made some mistakes, and i just needed to vent.
I have also removed the pedal subreddit from my subscriptions. My board has been downsized to a metro24 from a classic jr. I want to keep it that way.
Following in the footsteps of /u/bugah1 today and posting what I've been up to.
I deleted the Reverb app awhile ago, before I started this sub. It worked out well for a short time, but then I remembered I could still access the website on my phone. I never really stopped using that. I haven't bought any pedals since August/September, but that never stopped me from checking prices or looking up wishlist pedals constantly. Earlier this week, I made it a conscious effort to not check the website either. That's proving to be difficult, since it's been a habit for so long. Some days are great, but other days I don't care. I'm still trying.
At the end of December, I bought parts and equipment to make my own pedals. I made a loophole to my own rule that I can build pedals and sell them, and it won't count towards not buying anything. That was a bad idea. Read about it HERE. I gave away all my parts and my completed builds to a few friends because I wanted it all gone. I have zero desire to build another pedal.
When I purged ALL of my pedals a few years ago, I got rid of a few that I really liked. I've since bought back a mastotron (last june), and I finally convinced myself that it's ok to buy another Rat. I REALLY enjoy rats for an almost lo-fi, high-gain sound to compliment my regular high-gain sound. I've been missing it for awhile and have been thinking about buying one since about November. I finally said fuck it, I've thought about this long enough and bought a Donner Dark Mouse. It arrives tomorrow.
The reason I went with the Donner is because I don't have room on my board for the regular Rat2. My board of 6 is cramped as-is, but I have just enough space if I shuffle some things around. Even when deciding early on that I wanted a mini pedal, I still kept looking at old rats that cost more than new ones, because I love the look of a beat up Rat pedal. I got caught up with the aesthetics of a dumb box and considered paying too much money for one. The last Rat2 I bought when I was hoarding was $15 (screaming deal from a guy in wisconsin) and here I am trying to justify if paying 10 times that is worth it for a rustier box. Ugh.
EDIT: This was something I started noticing when building pedals, but I'm not finding many sounds in this Dark Mouse that I can't already make with my plexi or mastotron pedals. Right now, I'm not sure if I'm gonna keep it. It certainly doesn't have a full time spot on my board.
Howdy y'all, another voidshout for the best subreddit
The goal a couple months ago was to not change my setup and to learn the things I have more deeply. Since then I bought and sold a poly effects, sold a lyra-8, and sold last month a mood, tensor, harmonist, liqua-flange, zoom g1four, and picked up a used hx stomp. So I've downsized a bunch. The goal was to stop obsessing as much over this gear stuff and get back to living / working / being / playing instead of looking up hours of demos, justifying buying expensive gear I didn't need, buying and selling and trading and losing money on all that shipping costs, and endlessly rewiring my setup and optimizing my ergonomics for zero increase in play time. Hx stomp can replace my audio interface and amp so I'll probably move those on as well. I'll probably get rid of another pedal and a cheap mixer and then I think that's basically every expendable thing I've got laying around.
So, I wanted to mention selling things I didn't want to sell. So I have a Tensor that my friend told me to keep and I wanted to keep, but I kept thinking I really didn't need it and I went back and forth for weeks trying to figure out if I wanted to sell it or not. I figured I could keep it and it's not hurting anyone if I had it. I thought I'd miss it because I use it pretty often for weird soundscapes and pitch shifting and live effects when jammin' with synth stuff, and so on. So fast forward to now, I don't miss it at all. Now that it's gone, the "oh man I miss that, wish I had it right now" feeling I thought I would have for the tensor / mood / other things, doesn't come up very often, and when it does, it's just like "ah oh well, back to playing guitar". I know this is a pretty obvious thing, but I think this is what keeps people from just getting rid of all that gear they have around. That FOMO stuff isn't painful, and when you do have it, it doesn't keep you from enjoying whatever you were already doing in the first place. If you're going back and forth on whether or not to sell something, whether or not you "really need it", whether or not "you'll feel sad and miss it if this thing is gone" even if you're not using that thing very often, you probably won't miss it if it's gone. All that "back-and-forth questioning" is a new indicator for me to get rid of something. Too much time spent wondering if it's the right choice or not means that I'm not 100% comfortable keeping it in the first place, so move it on. The other stuff I've kept so far I don't even question if I need it. Looking at my main guitar, the question of "do I really need this" is EASILY yes. Compare this to those weird whoosy pedals, the question of "do I really need this" was followed up with a series of wish washy justifications and FOMO and so on.
Dunno, maybe someone might read this and vibe with it. It's fun getting rid of all this stuff and simplifying everything. Gives me less to worry about. Deleted my old reddit account. Happy to see some other people have been joining and posting as well! Anti-consumption is fun.
Before I knew it I bought three guitars. It's funny how this stuff happens. It started when my Peavey st7 guitars were having too many issues I could keep up with. A normal person would probably have bought a single guitar, made sure they liked it and changed some of things around. But not me, I bought THREE Ibanez RG 7 strings because I had some of the money from returns and various checks set aside. I keep telling myself the Peaveys alone were 300 to 500 to get them up to this level but I literally spent 300 on a hobby guitar I cant even use. Good news is i sold 3 guitars to do this so as it stands i only have 500 on a credit balance but having worked hard to pay off all my debts, this feels pretty bad. Good news is for the first time in my life I have a new guitar. I only have to switch pickups and the nut (of which I bought ALL the parts). Second one is coming from Sweetwater Monday but now I ALSO want the new RGD 7 string that isnt even out yet. So now I have teo guitars I shouldn't have got and tons of parts I may not need. So... that happened. Live and learn? Did I do bad enough that I absolutely failed/relapsed?
Hard to feel like I can give advice on this sub right now...
I’ve started building a few effects lately. The plan is to sell anything that doesn’t immediately click with me and sounds different enough to justify keeping. It’s my loophole to try new pedals but not commit to anything. I started with Coda Effects - Fools Gold, a take on the Acapulco Gold circuit. Definitely recommend starting with this one to anyone looking to get into the hobby. Coda Effects breaks it down to step by step instructions, including pictures, and has every measurement needed for drilling and/or art placement on your enclosure. The guide even links to small bear, so you can use the exact components for which the circuit was designed.
After I completed that one, I bought a handful of PCBs from pedalpcb.com. All great, but you’re left on your own to purchase and figure out the parts. I’ve built a DOD250, a EQD Tentacle Octave Up, and just finished a 1981 DRV clone. I still have a Tube Screamer and a Fuzz War left to build. This leaves me with 3 distortion pedals.
I really expected these 3 to sound dramatically different, but I gotta say they’re all more or less the same. The DRV doesn’t feel as distinct to me, and it doesn’t feel like a glorified rat, it just feels like a generic distortion. The Acapulco and 250 sound fine, but they feel like brothers. Feel is the key word for my analysis here.
Now, it could be the parts I used, or I could’ve made a mistake in assembly. Or it could be that building it myself ruins the mysticism of some of these pedals. I don’t feel the need to replace any of my current pedals, because the things I want right now won’t be different enough to warrant a replacement. I have a plan to replace my delay once I can start looking for a band to play with, but that’s extremely minor, and not exactly likely.
So who wants to buy my lame DIY clones?
EDIT: Just misdrilled a printed enclosure I got and that pushed me over the edge. I'm giving up on the hobby. I don't enjoy the process, I don't enjoy the end result.
I journaled about stuff for a month and I'm going to summarize some of the things that happened. Still on track for no new gear aside from a cheap guitar I got after selling a bunch of stuff I didn't want around my apartment, so no "negative monetary expenditure on new musical items" so far.
So if you saw my other post I bought a Poly Effects Beebo because I needed the cab sim for direct recording and having fun with the other stuff, but the preamps and distortions I don't really like too much on it so I was thinking about getting a distortion and a tuner to finish everything off. Then I realized, I already have a Zoom G1Four that I was planning on selling, only because I just hate the build quality, it felt like really cheap plastic and was a bit clunky to use, but the sounds for distortion and cab sim and direct guitar recording sounded pretty good from when I did mess with it. So I pulled that back out again and got over my prejudice for cheap build quality, made some really good sounding clean and distortion presets, and now I've got my tuner, cab sim, and distortion good to go. I put my Poly Effects up for sale because I didn't need it. Every other complicated do everything pedal I've had from microcosm to zoia and chase bliss stuff has always been "wow look at the potential, can't wait to explore and be inspired" and then I get them and it's like "alright all I want is a regular reverb please". Poly sold the next day, haven't missed it, great decision. Feel quite embarrassed for buying a $400 pedal, feeling super invested, then losing interest, then moving it on again.
I've spent awhile thinking of upgrading my zoom because I feel like I'm going to break it and it sounds 6/10, so in a typical fashion I've spent a lot of type looking up videos about multi-fx units and hx stomps. Now that I'm writing this, I remember the reason I got the zoom in the first place was because it was $50 used and sounded as good as a HX stomp to my ears, especially through some cheap bookshelf speakers. Last month I obsessed over a metal zone, that stereo mako reverb thing, for the Red Panda bitcrusher stuff at namm, and that new make noise strega synth. For each of these things I completely forgot I got really jazzed and obsessively hype for them. If I didn't write down that this happened I would have told you today that I didn't obsess over them. Kind of weird and embarrassing to see it written out. More good evidence for myself, just like that dust collector thing I talked about in my last post.
I used to have an HD500X a few years ago but then as I "got more into pedals" i.e., bought more boutique weoweoweo snake oil, I used it less and less until it was taking up space. Now I'm looking at this thing like "it's way better build quality and sounds similar to the zoom pedal, I already know how to use it and love it, got buttons, xp pedal, distortions, amps, cabs, tap tempo, tuner, compression, noise gate, eq, weirdo effects, I know how to use all those effects and tweak them to make good direct in guitar tones now that I've had practice with the zoom, I could easily sell these extra pedals to get one, it's got an fx return for the mono pedals I want to keep, I can use the USB connection when I go traveling to record direct and I wouldn't need to pack an audio interface, I could use that mic I've got laying around in my closet again, it's 1/3 the price of the HX stomp with a bunch more buttons" seems like a current no-brainer, but I've been down this rabbit hole so many times I'm going to just sit on this until I know for sure.
I know how to deeply use every pedal I own, all the things work for me to encourage me to play guitar, and I've been playing much more guitar than I ever have in awhile. I'm having a ton of fun again writing dumb djent songs with my $50 zoom pedal. I'll post again next month see what happens. Have a good day everyone.