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A subreddit for news and discussion about the Gold Coast Suns, an Australian Rules Football club playing in the Australian Football League.
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(happened a day ago, thought most people would've seen that by now)
Hi! I found this 2013 Gold Coast jersey in an op shop this weekend and think it could possibly be a jumper belonging to former player Kyal Horsely. It has a pouch for where the GPS tracker the players wear would go which is a feature that presumably doesn't get included on replicas. The only thing that confuses me a bit is the FIAT sponsor logo, which has been printed over the original Virgin sponsor logo. I watched footage of all the games where the Suns wore this jumper in 2013 and they all had the Virgin logo displayed, so if this is a player's jumper I'm not sure why they would have changed the logo. I'm not a Suns fan and don't know a lot about the club's history so was hoping that someone here perhaps knows more than me and could help explain this. Thanks!
It’s unpopular, I like the logo, but I love the home jersey. Sure, it could be a darker red to make the logo pop, but wasn’t the main complaint about slapping a logo in the middle?
A simple but unique silhouette of the logo you only get to see sometimes. We only wear the away jersey a few times a year max, good time to make the logo stand out sometimes.
I hope that we use the opportunity of a modern logo to be really creative with special jersey rounds.
Carlton are the only other team that have no jersey pattern, why not us as well?
Drop in your thoughts.
Hey suns fans this is really random but I'm interested to know what made you become a gold Coast suppper? Do you get to games regularly each year at PFS? My brother is new to AFL (he's a massive NRL fan) and has chosen gold Coast as his AFL club while living there. I've been to the stadium and it's a beautiful city. Great people and be amazing if they play finals next year
My thoughts: good riddance Luko
I live in the United States and have never been to Australia. I started watching footy basically on accident, and picked Gold Coast for my team because hey, why not. Typically in the States teams that are geographically close are the biggest rivals, and I sense that the Adelaide clubs are rivals, as are the Dockers and the Eagles.
So my question is, as someone relatively new to the sport, is Brisbane considered a primary rival to the Suns? Should I be upset that they won?
So we've finally got our results for the 2024 r/gcfc MVP. Firstly I have to give a big thanks to everyone who voted of course. There's been a very noticeable increase in participation which makes it much more interesting.
The first thing I want to point out with the results is that we got a perfect 10/10 for predicting the players that would make up the top 10 in the Club Champion! A bit out of order, but 3/10 in the right spot. Bravo.
I originally begun working on a video presentation to reveal these results, which would show highlights from the season alongside a live leaderboard, similar to the Brownlow. It was too ambitious so I gave up and went back to a plain table.
This might be a lot to take in, so the blue column is the one that matters.
It really could have gone to either of the top 3. Rowell and Anderson started very strong but flatlined a bit whilst Flanders made up lots of votes quickly towards the end.
There were a couple rounds like the one against North where no one really deserved votes but I don't think they would've had much effect on the end result with the winner, only the difference in votes.
r/gcfc MVP History
Year | Winner (votes) |
---|---|
2024 | Matt Rowell (44) |
2023 | Noah Anderson (51) |
2022 | Touk Miller (62) |
2021 | Touk Miller (80) |
2020 | Touk Miller (32) |
2019 | Jarrod Witts (40) |
Now that the torture is over and we don’t have to prepare ourselves for the carnage that is Suns’ footy every week, its time for end of season awards. Just one award really the Player of the Year.
I wrote out a big preamble of how I decide it last year so I’ll put that here next so you can decide if my methodology is worth anything.
For every game I re-watch it and take notes on all the positive and negative actions each Suns player makes during the game, a positive point or a negative one. I give extra points for actions that contribute directly to goals or goal-scoring chances or goal-saving marks, I punish a player who is responsible for conceding directly and turnovers either way are also important. Missing chances you should score is costly and key defenders get equal credit for intercept marks they take on their matchup and for ones they lose so I get a good sense of whether they beat their man overall.
This is obviously very subjective and only shows a certain dimension of how someone played. To take an example from the last round Ben Long accumulated 21 points worth of positive actions and 7 negative including 4 extra-credit actions (his three goals and a kick inside 50 that was marked) he had one poor kick which cost him double. That amounted to 7.5/10 for the game which is decided by a sort of fluid scale in my head which I can’t really justify but I think it is consistent enough. I average those ratings over the year to rank each player and to qualify for the title they have to have played 17 games with significant time on ground, I haven’t decided on how to account for the sub yet so apologies to David Swallow for not yet truly judging his season. If anyone would like to see any of these player ratings in any detail let me know, I haven’t figured out a visually interesting or simple way to incorporate it into what I write on here, its just a big spreadsheet and some paperwork at the moment.
The ratings are quite harsh, most games are pretty average so are close to a 5/10 and it is very difficult to give a 10/10 it would have to be one of the best games ever. I think the highest ratings I gave this year was 9/10 to Anderson and Lukosius for their performances in Darwin against Geelong where they both had over 35 positive actions. I like the idea of a 10/10 being pretty much unattainable unless you kick 10 or something.
It’s obviously a flawed and subjective system but I think it creates a pretty good idea of who the best players in a game were. I have shifted the emphasis on certain things with each game I do it for, this year I have tried to give more credit for really impressive individual actions which should be worth more than just 1 point. I think it is also effective in punishing those 30 disposal games where a player uses the ball poorly because I only credit a disposal if I think it was useful enough. This probably hurts Noah Anderson who always comes out lower in my ratings than the consensus and credits Rowell more who is more conservative but wins harder ball.
Anyway, that’s how it all works. My Gold Coast Suns Player of the Year is……
Sam Flanders
It was a fantastic season for Sammy Flanders who finished with 6.7/10 from 22 games. That included 9 games as a midfielder, 7 off half-back, 3 at half-forward and a couple more where I didn’t lock him down to one spot. He stood out most in the midfield and as a forward late in the year. His best ratings came in R19 vs the Giants and in that last round against the Tigers. In Round 19 his 34 effective disposals, 9 clearances and 7 inside 50s led a strong Suns midfield that failed to put enough points on the board despite their success. Last weekend his 2 goals, 6 clearances, 14 score involvements and 23 effective disposals is the kind of game we dream of from Suns forward/mids.
He is one of those players who just has a knack for finding the ball which will always be valuable, his recently revealed scoring ability, assuming it can continue into more serious games next year is a massive bonus. He helped himself rating-wise by not having any truly awful games, he had a few 5/10 games when he played in defence as his ball use was inconsistent. But in the midfield he was a steady presence who took the pressure off the big names who are usually expected to dominate.
In 2nd is…
Matt Rowell
Rowelly backed up his 2023 season with another good season rampaging around the middle for a 6.6/10 season. He started the season like a house on fire and looked like he was going to be the engine of a finals team, but he started to drop off a bit after R7. He then had a bit of an up and down season where he either had his way with his opposition and won plenty of ball, or he was kept very quiet. Lifting those troughs in performance will hugely benefit the Suns and likely make him an All-Australian for the first time because his best is some of the most frightening and physical contested footy in the league.
In 3rd is…
Mac Andrew
Mac really broke out once he came into the side in R4 after the bye. He took up that intercept defending role and ran with it. You could see his reading of the game has improved drastically and he doesn’t have half as many clangers as he did through his first 20 games. The broader AFL really took notice when he clamped Charlie Curnow for a half in Vicotria in R12 it showed he could take on assignments as well as fly around more freely. I think he ended up rating higher than Collins because he was able to use the ball a bit better and without the big matchups he didn’t risk taking a big ratings hit against a great key forward. Weirdly his worst game came in the win against the Pies. Looking at my notes he seemed to have a bad day in the marking contest either spoiling poorly or failing to take balls that hit him in the hands, but frankly I don’t remember well enough.
He could have finished higher if I had access to a full replay of the West Coast game in Perth. I can’t get hold of the first half of Q1 when he scored a couple of goals. I gave everyone else a rating but thought it would be unfair to fully judge his game so I will adjust everyone’s notes at some point once I’ve seen that portion of the game. So apply that asterisk as you see fit
I thought I would show the rest of my PoY Top 10 which shows the order they came in. Their rating over the season is the primary measure but when I felt I couldn’t split players I used the number of games they had at at least 6.5/10 and the number of games they played total. This rating usually amounts to a good game in most cases so I think it is a useful basis to split the tough ones.
Flanders 6.7 - 15/22
Rowell 6.6 - 15/23
Andrew 6.5 - 13/18
Anderson 6.19 - 13/23
Uwland 6.16 - 13/21
Miller 6.3 - 12/17
Collins 6.15 - 10/23
King 6.13 - 10/22
Long 6.08 - 8/17
Powell 6.08 - 7/18
Herald Sun journalist Jon Ralph believes the future of Jack Lukosius isn’t as clear-cut as first envisaged.
Multiple reports this season have linked Lukosius to the Adelaide Crows given he is out-of-favour under Damien Hardwick at the Gold Coast, but Ralph reported on Fox Footy’s Midweek Tackle that the Suns utility could be prepared to take a pay cut to remain at the Suns.
“Damien Hardwick is, I think throwing the toys out of the cot. We know that premiership statement, ‘we’ve got all the premiership players here, I’m loving these new toys’. Jack was one of his brand spanking new toys and then he didn’t play the right way. He wasn’t as robust enough physically, so a year on, he’s sick of him,” Ralph began.
“I think Adelaide desperately came to try and secure him, they’ve been monitoring him since he was drafted, I just don’t think he really wants to leave the Gold Coast. He’s back-ended on his contract, two more years of about $950,000.”
The Suns have secured a host of young talent in recent years, boasting four Academy jets from last year’s intake and they’ll add another in Zeke Uwland in 2025.
The likes of Mac Andrew and Jed Walter are only going to command more money as they flourish in the years to come.
“I think Gold Coast has a lot of incoming signings that they would like to use that money on. I think he’s prepared to take a pay cut,” Ralph said.
“I don’t know what Gold Coast would think of that, does Dimma have any obligation to say, ‘you’re my player, you didn’t turn out to be the player that I wanted to, I roll my sleeves up and I improve you as a player’, or does he cast him aside?”
The playing future of Lukosius remains up in the air and will be a big watch during this year’s trade period.
5:05pm @ Carrara
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