Now, let me just note that this is all hypothetical: the existence of such an issue has been neither confirmed nor denied by Dynamite at the time of this post's writing. Still, the fact that such an issue may end up being made feels like a real possibility, because:

1. the Dynamite run has already had a special issue (the Halloween story Trick-Or-Treat from last year);
2. that special issue came out on October 18th, which lines up fairly well with the anniversary (which falls on October 24th).

So, let's assume that we'll be getting a 30th Anniversary Special in about five months - what would you like the story to be? I can think of several suitable options:

• Goliath and Elisa's Commitment Ceremony - It's the most important relationship in the entire series and most fans' favorite romance; the (Canon) tv show ended with their first kiss; it would certainly be fitting enough.
• A story from the early days of the Manhattan Clan - According to the Timeline, there's a four-weeks gap in-between Awakening and The Thrill of the Hunt, which also happens to include the Clan's first Halloween in Manhattan; it could be fun to go back and revisit that period - or another period from the earlier days of the series - maybe while using the present day of the comics as a framing device.
• A multi-generational story - Another thing that could work is to jump around a bit and show us the Wyvern, Manhattan and Avalon Clans throughout the years/centuries: a series of vignettes about (just spitballing here), for example, Hudson as a young Gargoyle, Goliath and Demona when they were kids, the hatching of the Avalon Clan, a missing scene from the past of the Manhattan Clan, and then maybe end things with a not-too-spoilery scene set in 2024 where we see, I dunno, >!Broadway and Angela playing with their firstborn Artus!< or something.

Well, this is what I've got. What do you all think?

This is a crossover idea that has been going on in my mind for a while now, but what if instead of ending up in New York City, the Gargoyles end up in Manila where they meet Alexandra Trese.

I know that they were released in separate decades but please her me out first.

Here are a few key differences:

• Instead of originating from Scotland the Gargoyles are now Spanish. This will help avoid a language barrier from occurring.
• David Xanatos is an Australian or New Zealand businessman who decides to bring the Castle to Manila because of the city's unique connection to the supernatural.
• Alexandra Trese replaces the role of Elisa Maza as the Gargoyles human friend and confidant. They also find human allies in Hank Sparrow, Captain Guerrero, and Lt. Tapia.
• Brooklyn also becomes buds with Maliksi which leads to the Gargoyles becoming friends with Senor Armanz and the Tikbalang clan.

However, I'm unsure what names the other Gargoyles would adopt. I am also unsure on whether or not Goliath will pursue a romance with Alexandra, like he did with Elisa, since there is no indication that Alexandra has any interest in pursuing a romance.

Any other ideas on how things might be different from the original series?

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/Trese

Round 28 winner: Long Way To Morning.

Round 29 participants:

• Sanctuary (Season 2, Episode 29): World Tour - Paris; the World Tourists object to the wedding of Macbeth and Demona - as should we all! Featuring: Thailog's daddy issues.
• Cloud Fathers (Season 2, Episode 41): World Tour - Arizona; the World Tourists, together with Peter and Beth Maza, have to confront Xanatos and Coyote to save, uh, Coyote.
• The Reach (Dark Ages, Issue #1): on the cliffs of Wyvern Hill, an alliance is made; meanwhile, in the text story, King Maol Chalvim dies, leaving behind a complicated political situation.

Round 30 participants (May 8th):

• Eye of the Beholder (Season 2, Episode 7).
• City of Stone Part Two (Season 2, Episode 10).
• Avalon Part Two (Season 2, Episode 22).

(Just three more rounds to go...)

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What is Villain Decay? According to Tv Tropes:

The process by which a villain who is extremely scary on first appearance becomes a joke after a few more appearances.

In most shows, failure is the only option for the villains, because success would mean that the villains take over the world, kill or imprison all the good guys, and otherwise do things that make future episodes impossible. However, this eventually results in a foregone conclusion and a predictable plot, since it makes the audience wonder why the hero is so concerned about an enemy that they've beaten six times already.

This is a problem that Gargoyles has always taken steps to avoid, and in several different ways - the foremost being that, even though the villains aren't allowed to win too much, they can still score some partial victories along the way.

For example: yes, Xanatos will never achieve his dream of immortality, but he was still able to manipulate Derek into his service - for a while - and successfully create the Mutates; yes, Demona will never actually destory the human race, but she was still able to massacre a fair amount of humans during City of Stone; sure, they couldn't let Thailog kill off Goliath, Elisa, Xanatos and Sevarius during his first appearance, but he was still able to get away with twenty million dollars; you get the gist.

Another method that Gargoyles has used to avoid Villain Decay is to make the villains interesting in ways that don't have to do with their success rate - for example, by turning Xanatos into a family man and letting his relationship with the Clan evolve to the point that now they're kinda-sorta allies (which still needs to be properly addressed, Greg, don't think I've forgotten that!); another example of this is the fact that two of Demona's big selling points are 1)learning her backstory and 2)seeing how her being a villain impacts Goliath and Angela (and Brooklyn, assuming Greg will be smart and address the fact that he now presumably knows how her story will end).

But a third way Gargoyles has dealt with the problem, and IMO the most interesting one AND most important to consider for the future is this: after a while, villains are allowed to move on while others take their place. Let's look at Xanatos once again: long ago, he was the series' main villain (yes, he was, sorry Demona-lovers) but that hasn't really been the case since, oh, the first half of Season 2? Instead, as previously mentioned, he's now the Clan's kinda-sorta ally* and his role as Evil Amoral Billionaire has been more or less taken over by Thailog.

*(Of course, a sad byproduct of this is that now we'll probably never see him get some comeuppance for his crimes, but hey - I never said all this was handled 100% perfectly. Curse you, Greg Weisman's man-crush for his own creation!)

And Xanatos is hardly the only example:

• Macbeth is no longer a villain and is now the Clan's ally as well.
• Fox has basically gone through the same development as her husband.
• Dingo and Fang have joined the Redemption Squad.
• Tony Dracon's role as Main Mobster has been taken over by Antoinette (and we're seeing more gangster characters in general compared to the tv show).
• The Archmage was killed off.
• Hakon was exiled from the mortal plane.

And thus we end the analysis portion of this post and move on to the speculation part, where I make educated guesses on how this cycle of avoiding Villain Decay will continue in the future; BE WARNED THAT THE NEXT SECTION WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS FOR STUFF THAT WAS REVEALED ON ASK GREG, SO STAY CLEAR IF YOU'RE ALLERGIC TO IT.

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DEMONA: she's in an interesting position because, although we know she'll get an "epiphany" at some point and presumably redeem herself, we also know that two more centuries will have to pass before that actually happens - and two extra centuries of failures sound like the sort of thing that makes Villain Decay inevitable, even if you score a few partial victories along the way. Moreover, her relationship with Angela could quickly get boring, since there's a limit to how much it can actually evolve - Angela will never redeem Demona and Demona will never turn Angela into a human-hater, so they're more or less stuck in their positions from The Reckoning.

I have a theory/idea on how this could be avoided, though: what if, in the near-ish future, maybe as soon as the end of Gargoyles Quest, Demona gets retired as a villain? Right now, what I think will happen is that Demona will try and use the new Keys to Power to take control of the minds of humanity and force them all to kill themselves; she will fail - obviously - but Hudson (or maybe Brooklyn) will die in the battle, at which point the Clan will say "Yeah, two attempted genocides in a row are too much, plus we lost someone that was dear to us, this can't be allowed to happen again" and lock Demona in a safe place, where she'll be stuck for the next 200 years, until Samson comes along to recruit her into the Resistance ("We need all the help we can get no matter the source, yadda yadda yadda").

Now, this is just a hunch; feel free to mock it; feel free to tell me how much you'd hate this if it were to happen; but that's my current theory.

THAILOG: just like Xanatos, I don't think that Thailog will be able to hold onto his role of Evil Amoral Billionaire forever, but I doubt he'll ever become an ally (or even just a semi-ally) either; it's more likely, IMO, that he'll be killed off at some point - and call me crazy, but I think it's Brentwood who'll end up doing it, thus taking over his role and getting a bit closer to the Lexington from Future Tense he's supposed to mirror.

THE PACK: they are another interesting case, in that there's already been a story, Upgrade, that dealt with their Villain Decay (Greg Weisman was very explicit about it in his ramble for the episode: "How the mighty have fallen. My point-of-view and Dingo's matched up. The Pack were beginning to feel pathetic. The problem with villains is that after the heroes keeps beating them over and over, you need to find a way to keep them competitive"). Problem is, though, that while their upgrade did make them a bigger challenge, they still ended up being a beatable challenge, and now they're in the exact same position as before, with the upgraded Pack being just as decayed as the original one (their latest defeat in Mayday was particularly humiliating); so, how does Greg plan to address this?

Well, the next Coyote will form the Ultra-Pack, comprised of the newly upgraded Wolf, Jackal and Hyena, plus a new human member (possibly the Tazmanian Tiger from Bad Guys); this sounds less than ideal to me, because 1)it smells of "sequel not knowing what to do and thus just copying the original" and 2)it just postpones the actual solving of the problem (what happens after the Ultra-Pack starts decaying as well - they get upgraded AGAIN and become the Super-Ultra-Pack?).

So, unless someone can come up with something better, I think it may almost be time to retire the Pack for good: give them a few more stories and then end things with a big one where they manage to really f**k the Clan up and inflict some lasting damage (maybe they cripple Lexington to the point that he needs to get the cybernetic implants from Future Tense to survive?) - and then blow them all up for good so they can leave on a high note.

(Aside from Coyote, who we know will still be a thing in Gargoyles 2198, by which time "anything less than total control of the entire galaxy would strike him as under-achieving" - and yes, I think making Coyote an independent agent from Xanatos and letting him develop his own ambitions makes for a good way of avoiding decay, at least for a while.)

SEVARIUS: honestly, the guy is almost immune to Villain Decay, and for a very simple reason: he usually isn't the main villain of a story, which means he gets to stay in the background and concoct whatever abominatios Xanatos, Thailog, Demona or whoever ask him to concoct in peace, thus leaving his employees with the ungrateful task of going out and getting defeated (partially or utterly) by the Clan; if you think about it, an argument could be made that he's the most successful villain of the entire series. Because of this, I can see him keeping his role as Mad Scientist for a long time yet - although yes, at some point he'll probably need to get some comeuppance for the Mutates and all the other nasty stuff he did.

COLDSTEEL: ...yeah, I don't have much of a big speech prepared for this guy. I enjoy him well enough, but I can't pretend there's much of anything going on in there aside from "nasty and machiavellian" and "wants to bang Coldfire", neither of which gives him a plethora of staying power. I dunno, maybe him and Coyote will still be pals in 2198, maybe he'll get three or four more appearances before Coldfire melts him into scrap metal while Lesley Gore's You Don't Own Me plays in the background... I admit I'm a bit stumped on this.

THE WEIRD SISTERS: I refer you to the post I wrote about them a couple months ago: "while I don't think he's going to put it that way, I do think Greg Weisman intends to restore the Weird Sisters to their former glory by giving us back the characters that were introduced in City of Stone - the trio of mysterious and otherwordly creatures, rather than the "VENGEFUL TRIO OF WITCHES" from later appearances; this doesn't mean he'll pretend that stuff never happened, but I believe an attempt will be made to retroactively make it more complicated/mysterious/mystical than it originally was ("The Weird Sisters represent three opposing forces battling for ascendency without ever acknowledging or even being aware of the conflict. So more was going on then you saw") and that in general, the Sisters' appearances will be more City-inspired than Avalon-inspired. Greg has also said that their Grace-aspect will be revealed as well at some point, which of course fits better with the City-Sisters than the Avalon-Sisters."

JOHN CASTAWAY AND THE QUARRYMEN: I'd argue these guys have already gone through a most ferocious case of Villain Decay: they made a strong first impression in Nightwatch/The Journey, which was followed by a nice scene in Invitation Only where Castaway showed he could be savvy as well ("No hammers! Not [on Halloween]! Yes, we do want a strong presence on the streets, but the last thing we need is a Quarryman brought up on assault charges for clouting a teenager in a Gargoyle mask! Hoods, yes! Hammers, no!")...

But then Here In Manhattan happened, where Castaway's attempts to stop the Gargoyles from being acknowledged as sentient beings amounted to an annoyance at best, and of course Trick-Or-Treat, where not only did he do a complete one-eighty on his previous, perfectly sensible Halloween policy by deciding to attack a public party ("All right, new rules: go after any Gargoyle or any human foolish enough to costume as a Gargoyle, plus any known or obvious Gargoyle-sympathizers - like that species-traitor Maza!"), but him and his Quarrymen were then handed what I don't hesitate to call the most humiliating defeat any villain has ever endured in the Gargoyles Universe yet - seriously, even the Street Thugs usually get defeated with more dignity.

(It also doesn't help that Castaway seems to have lost any doubt or complexity he used to have back when he was Jon Canmore - right now, his only personality trait seems to be "Demona but without the tits" "hates Gargoyles; like, a whole lot"; his complete lack of emotion while confronting his sister Robyn in Estranged was particularly striking, and not for the right reasons.)

And yet - stop me if you've heard this before - we know the Quarrymen will still be around in Gargoyles 2198, by which time they'll be "out of favor" because they're no longer "politically correct" - and we even know that they'll still be led by Castaway's descendants. Frankly, I don't have many great hopes for their future as a believable threat, because we know that Gargoyles are going to get more and ever more rights in the next few decades, and therefore we also know that the Quarrymen are going to fail and keep failing at their job, without even the option of a dignified exit from the field to lighten things up. I'm afraid their Villain Decay has just begun...

THE ILLUMINATI: I've kept these guys for last because... well, they're in a bit of a weird position. The Illuminati are arguably the most powerful, most dangerous villains of the entire series, being the Secret Masters of the World who move and manipulate everything from behind the scenes... but we haven't seen them do much of anything yet, have we? Therefore, while there's been no Villain Decay, there haven't been any great victories to celebrate either - in fact, I find it difficult to visualize what an Illuminati victory, either a total or a partial one, would even look like; what do they want, exactly?

Still, we know we won't get rid of them anytime soon, because - say it with me, kids - they'll still be around two centuries from now, at which point they'll still be "made up of almost all the true movers and shakers on planet Earth" - which means that, on the one hand, there's a limit to how much Villan Decay they can get, but on the other hand it looks like we won't be getting the satisfaction of seeing either Matt, the Clan, Arthur, the New Olympians or the Redemption Squad hand them any particularly serious defeat, which could make things as boring as the other option in the long run.

Well, that's what I've got. You have anything to add?

So I watched Gargoyle's a while ago and loved it but was sad about the show being cancelled. I have been getting in the mood to rewatch it but I remember hearing that there are comics. Does anyone have the links to all the comics? and what order should I read them? I assume I watch the show first and then read the comics, but if there are certain comics I should read before finishing the show then please tell me, thank you.

Round 27 winner: Hunter's Moon Part Three.

Round 28 participants:

• Long Way To Morning (Season 1, Episode 11): in the past, Goliath, Hudson and Demona fight together to recover the Grimorum from the Archmage; in the present, Hudson tries to save Goliath from the wrath of Demona.
• Legion (Season 2, Episode 3): Coldstone returns - and this time he's brought company. Featuring: Goliath in the role of Cassio.
• Ill Met By Moonlight (Season 2, Episode 42): World Tour - Avalon; the World Tourists return to the mystical island just in time to witness the homecoming of its masters: Oberon and Titania, rulers of the Third Race.

Round 29 participants (May 4th):

• Sanctuary (Season 2, Episode 29).
• Cloud Fathers (Season 2, Episode 41).
• The Reach (Dark Ages, Issue #1).

(Four more rounds to go...)

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Greg Weisman is an author of Gargoyles, and he can do with this franchise and its universe whatever he wants.

But still, i think many might disagree with some of the descicions. I know, Greg talked to such people. Some were polite, some weren't. Do you have any things you dont like in Gargoyles lore or something else?

Me? I have doubts only with two things.

1. Adding Aliens in the Gargverse was a mistake, imo.

2. Old Brooklyn wearing a eye patch. There are some characters, who just dont look good with eye patch. Unfortunately, Brooklyn is such.

Development for the new show started last year in October and so far we don't know anything. Disney first started development of Percy Jackson in May 2020, the middle of COVID, and production didn't start till 2022 and the show released a year later. The Avatar remake was first pitched in 2018 with production meant to start in 2019, but due to COVID and creative differences with the creator production didn't start till 2022, with the release in 2024. The upcoming How to Train Your Dragon Movie was pitched a year ago, they've started filming and have plans to release it in a year. They have their showrunners, how long will it take to start casting, production, filming, and eventually get it released?

I'm new to this franchise and after finishing the show (yet to see the Goliath Chronicles) and plan on reading the comics. I'm shocked there isn't much more of this show and its not a bigger franchise. It had so much potential when it was released and still holds a lot of potential today. I know its back with new comics, a video game, action figures, podcast, and a live action reboot in development. However, I feel in the past 20 years there should've been +100 more comics, another video game, a live action film, an animated spinoff, an animated revival, even an attraction at Disneyland. So, is this a forgotten show?

1. ”Masque”
2. “Louse”
3. “Rock of Ages”
4. “Strangled”
5. “Your Witness” (Goliath On Trial)
6. “Cold Comfort”
7. “Phoenix” (TimeDancer Pilot)
8. “Miracle Child”
9. “Strangers” (Matrix Episode)
10. “The Lost” (Yama Episode)
11. “The Oath” (Demona’s Rescue)
12. “The Draw” (Verity’s Death)
13. “The Pledge” (Wyvern The Dragon’s Debut)
14. “Mayday” (Goliath’s Attempted Jailbreak)
15. “The Journey” (Repetitive/ Self-Serving/ Could’ve Told Another Story Instead)
16. “Render Unto Caesar” (Goliath Behind Bars)
17. “Tale As Old As Time” (Goliath Arrested)
18. “Trick-Or-Treat” (Halloween Kid-Appeal Filler Episode)
19. “Reunion” (World Tour Flashback Filler Episode)

Round 26 winner: Protection.

Round 27 participants:

• M.I.A. (Season 2, Episode 30): World Tour - London; the World Tourists enter into a conflict with the London Clan (or at least two of them) on account of Goliath's role in the mysterious disappearance of their friend Griff, fifty-six years before.
• Hunter's Moon Part Three (Season 2, Episode 52): the Clock Tower is no more and both Goliath and Jason are out for blood - with Elisa getting caught in the crossfire; meanwhile, Demona is ready to enact Operation Clean Slate.
• Cold Comfort (Here In Manhattan, Issue #12): Dino Dracon makes his final move, Goliath makes another step for Human/Gargoyle relationships, and the stage is set for Gargoyles Quest. Narrator: Coldstone.

Round 28 participants (May 1st):

• Long Way To Morning (Season 1, Episode 11).
• Legion (Season 2, Episode 3).
• Ill Met By Moonlight (Season 2, Episode 42).

(Only five more rounds to go before the next phase begins!)

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The Grimorum Arcanorum (genuine leather and metal) Eye of Odin and the Phoenix Gate. As far as i am aware i am one of the few people to own a genuine leather replica of the grimorum. :)

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Broadway and Angela's Commitment Ceremony is getting closer and closer, but something I've learnt in these last few months is that most people on this sub don't seem to be particularly enamored of the relationship: they don't despise it or anything, but they react to it more or less like this: "Uh. Really? Well, that's certainly... a choice" - which is a sentiment I wholeheartedly agree with.

So I decided to do something a bit different with this post: rather than trying to convince you of something most of you already agree with, I'll play devil's advocate a bit and give you Greg Weisman's version of events; to do this, I went to Ask Greg and found a fair amount of relevant quotes about the relationship. Let's start with the earliest reference to it we currently have, from the Turf outline notes, dated May 16th, 1995:

I feel that we need to know who Angela will wind up with in the long run (assuming there ever is a long run). Gary Sperling and I discussed it, and came to a semi-consensus that Angela and Broadway would make a nice couple. This should NOT be objectively reflected in this episode, and Broadway can make just as big an idiot of himself as Lex and Brooklyn, but if we keep it subtle, I wouldn't mind if viewers were able to look back to this episode and say, "you know, it really started here."

Then a few extracts from the FAQ section:

Why did Angela get together with Broadway when it seemed like she was in love with Gabriel?

Angela and Gabriel saw each other as siblings- there was no romantic relationship between them. Gabriel is actually mated with Ophelia.

Why did Angela choose Broadway over Brooklyn?

Brooklyn was drawn to Angela as little other than an attractive and available female gargoyle. Broadway, however, saw the person she was beneath that. Angela also saw the person Broadway was, and the two connected.

Did Coldstone and Coldfire's possession of Broadway and Angela have anything to do with their relationship?

It's a chicken and the egg thing. Did the Coldtrio's unbound spirits sense something or cause something? At any rate, behind the scenes, we certainly used it as a stepping stone to an eventual Broadway/Angela relationship.

This is from the Ill Met By Moonlight ramble:

Gabriel has been a bit bored on Avalon. Angela says: "Join us on the skiff, my brother." This seemed like a pretty clear indication to me that Angela & Gabriel's relationship was fraternal, not romantic. (I mean, after all, Demona's called Goliath a lot of things, but never "brother".) But still some people thought that these two were an item. They take evidence, I'm told, from the way they held hands over the volcano later in the episode. But I still see that as fraternal concern.

And this is from the Turf ramble:

We were careful NOT to have Broadway call her Angie here. He used it first, in a previous episode [The Gathering Part Two], but by now has already grokked that she doesn't like it.

(Why he couldn't figure out that she didn't like all the other stuff they were doing in that episode either is anyone's guess.)

And a few other questions and answers:

Dear Greg, This question is about the Angela and Brooklyn relationship. At the end of season 2, why were you hinting at an attraction or possible relationship between them, and then out of nowhere have Broadway come in and mess everything up? Here's my proof that Angela was probably going to go with Brooklyn: in "The Reckoning", Demona hit  Brooklyn  and he fell onto a roof.  Angela  immediately rushed to his side, held up his beak, and lovingly looked into his eyes. Also, in "Hunter's Moon: Part 1"  Brooklyn  got shot in the arm, and  Angela  rushed to his side again to see if he was OK, and bandaged his arm. I mean, how could you do that? Poor Brooklyn, the poor guy can't win. Angela and Broadway DO NOT go together. Yuck!

Greg responds:

I never changed my mind. I was never hinting at a possible Brooklyn/Angela romance. Quite the reverse, Gary Sperling and I decided early on that Broadway and Angela were right for each other. And we were hinting at that. Yes, Brooklyn liked her. The way he liked Maggie. That is shallowly and without any real thought as to whether his feelings were reciprocated. He didn't love the real Angela, just the romantic opportunity she represented.

As to your proof, you read that loving look into the Reckoning. Probably Brooklyn did the same. You must have wanted to believe that as he did. It was just sisterly compassion. Same in Hunter's Moon. Any injured gargoyle would have gotten the same treatment. Broadway saw the real Angela, and she saw the real Broadway. They care about each other and love each other beyond surface.

Look, obviously, you are a Brooklyn fan. Me too. Wouldn't you rather see him end up with someone he truly loved for who she was. Someone who loved him the same way. That's Katana. Trust me.

Elsewhere:

The short answer is that Broadway loved Angela for who she was. Brooklyn for what she was. That's a huge difference that Angela could sense. Broadway and Angela have a lot in common that way. They both read people well. They look inside. Not at surfaces.

Plus:

We were never hinting toward Brooklyn/Angela. Quite the reverse. Gary Sperling and I made this decision together when he was working on Turf. But it just felt right. Broadway seemed the guy who was most attentive to Angela as an individual. The person most in touch with his so-called feminine side. Brooklyn was just after any chick with wings, frankly. And I think Lex pursued her because his brothers were and it seemed like the right thing to do. Only Broadway was interested in who Angela was. In my mind, he's clearly the most mature when it comes to this stuff. Brooklyn's a leader. And I love the guy, but he confuses a crush with deep abiding love. He needs a little more emotional maturity before he's ready for this "Gargoyles mate for life" thing.

And finally:

Okay, I don't care about who Angela chose as a mate and I've seen your responses as to how Broadway treated her, etc etc. Well, I see a bit of an anomaly here. You said something in the early archives to someone else back when I used to have time to read this. You said "Broadway saw her for who she was, Brooklyn, who he wanted her to be." Not to criticize, but how were we to know that? There weren't that many episodes (20, tops, sorry, can't get the number right off the top of my head) between the Gathering, when she was introduced to the Trio and the Journey in which she fell for Broadway. There wasn't much time for explanation of how Broadway seemed to prove to be the better of the three between Turf and Journey. I'm not saying she shouldn't have chosen Broadway, I'm saying how could she have chosen ANY of them that early without much explanation? It just kinda puzzles me...

Greg responds:

Well, I suppose that's a fair comment. But I wasn't setting out to JUSTIFY (in capital letters) their relationship. That's what happened. I think there were hints in Turf and Possession of what was coming. And certainly there were hints as to what kind of suitor Brooklyn was if you studied his relationship with Maggie objectively. But basically, I think we showed subtle hints of the feelings Broadway and Angela were developing from Gathering right through to The Journey. Possession put them in very close proximity. It was probably a turning point of sorts. But let me say, I wanted the kiss in Journey to be a bit of a surprise. Not a OHMYGOD THATCANTBE shock, but I was hoping to catch you off guard. MAKING SURE YOU WERE OK WITH IT wasn't my priority.

So, what do you think? You find any of this convincing? Was any of you swayed? Discuss.

Round 25 winner: Awakening Part One.

Round 26 participants:

• Protection (Season 2, Episode 18): NYPD works hard to stop Tony Dracon's protection racket; it's a pity Elisa had to pick this moment to become evil - which, in true comic book fashion, means she now dresses in a more revealing manner.
• Turf (Season 2, Episode 47): the gangs of Tony Dracon and Tomas Brod are involved in a turf war - winner takes New York. Meanwhile, the members of the Trio are busy with a turf war too - winner takes Angela (or not).
• New Rules (Here In Manhattan, Issue #10): the hearing of Goliath continues; Elisa explains that she kissed a monster and she liked it. Narrator: Katana.
• The Pledge (Dark Ages, Issue #6): the Wyvern Clan faces Wyvern the Dragon on Wyvern Hill to save the Wyvern humans. Meanwhile, in the text story, Malcolm and Robbie go make an alliance.

Round 27 participants (April 27th):

• M.I.A. (Season 2, Episode 30).
• Hunter's Moon Part Three (Season 2, Episode 52).
• Cold Comfort (Here In Manhattan, Issue #12).

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"Wanna make something of it?"

What follows is a rundown on all of the Canon Gargoyles artists, plus my personal opinions on them:

• David Hedgecock: he was the closest thing the Clan-Building arc had to a regular artist, having drawn issues #1-3 and #7-9 of that run; he also - oh, what's the polite way of putting it... - kinda sucked at his job. His characters all look really weird, at a weird halfway point between being kinda realistic and being kinda stylized, but without fully committing to either approach; I also don't think he was particularly good at creating the illusion of movement, which is very important in an action-oriented franchise. The fact that he didn't draw all of Clan-Building was a blessing in not even much of disguise.
• Nir Paniry: he drew the fourth issue of Clan-Building, Masque. He had a very exaggerated style which I admit had a certain coolness to it but that I don't think fitted very well with Gargoyles; he also liked drawing bulky guys a bit too much, IMO - I mean, look at this, it's the closest thing we'll ever get to a Rob Liefeld-drawn issue of Gargoyles.
• Gordon Purcell: he drew the sixth issue of Clan-Building - and missing World Tour adventure - Reunion. He was... basically ok? His art has a very "will-this-do" quality to it; it's not gonna win him any award, but it's not gonna be thrown away as utterly useless either - the characters all basically look right, for example.
• Greg Guler: he drew the tenth issue of Clan-Building, featuring the beginning of TimeDancer - but before that he worked on the tv show itself, coming up with the inspirational designs of Goliath, Elisa, Demona and the Pack before going to become Season 2's lead character designer. Not so surprisingly, his characters all look on-point - in particular, he gave us the best-drawn Demona ever - and I'd say his art is easily the best of the SLG run.
• David Hutchinson: he drew the eleventh issue of Clan-Building, Tyrants (yeah, the SLG run had A LOT of artists). His style, strange to say, is basically an halfway point between Hedgecock and Guler, where the characters more or less look right but they're perhaps a bit too "angular" in places; plus, we go back to the problem of the suboptimal illusion of movement.
• Ben Dunn: he drew the final issue of Clan-Bulding (and so technically the final issue of TimeDancer); I'd say the biggest problem here is that the characters all have more muscles than they're supposed to, thus making them bulkier than they need to be. Nice fight scenes, though.
• Karine Charlebois: she was the regular artist for Bad Guys, having drawn five issues out of six, plus the artist for the fifth issue of Clan-Building, Bash. Her characters are all on-point - which isn't that surprising for a former fan artist - and the action scenes aren't half-bad either. What's not to like?
• Christopher Jones: he drew the third issue of Bad Guys, Estranged. His art is a bit rough around the edges in places - like it wasn't quite 100% finished; sometimes this works and sometimes it doesn't, often during the very same page.
• George Kambadais: he drew the entirety of the Here In Manhattan series; his is the most stylized art yet - he's more interested in making the characters look good than he is in making them look right, and for the most part he succeeds, giving us a style that is quite different from the tv show's, but at the same time similar enough - on a, shall we say, impressionistic level - to make it work. His biggest problem is that, if Hedgecock hadn't quite mastered the illusion of movement, Kambadais clearly decided it's for lesser people - his characters almost never look like they're actually moving; this is fine if they're just talking (they are immobile, but immobile in very cool ways), but less fine in a fight scene, where... well, see for yourselves.
• Drew Moss: he drew the Dark Ages mini-series, and did it quite well: his characters don't always look exactly as they looked in the tv show, but they (almost always) look good - there's a certain roughness about them that makes them work, if you catch my meaning. The fights could look a bit better, though.
• Bonesso Diego: he drew the Halloween Special Trick-Or-Treat, and he's the first of my compatriots to have drawn a Gargoyles story. Sorry to say, it didn't quite work: sometimes his art looks quite good - and he can draw a decent fight scene, which is nice - and sometimes it looks half-finished and you get the worst-drawn Elisa Maza ever to boot.
• Pasquale Qualano: another compatriot of mine; he's the artist currently drawing Gargoyles Quest, and he quickly became my favorite. Ok, fine: I'm not sure why certain characters are getting those absurdly large chins, but hot damn - look at the angles, look at the atmosphere, look at the expressions! Some - if not most - of these characters have simply never looked better than this.

So here is my ranking:

1. Pasquale Qualano.
2. Greg Guler.
3. Drew Moss.
4. George Kambadais.
5. Karine Charlebois.
6. David Hutchinson.
7. Bonesso Diego.
8. Ben Dunn.
9. Christopher Jones.
10. Nir Paniry.
11. Gordon Purcell.
12. David Hedgecock.

What is yours?

Round 24 winner: Metamorphosis.

Round 25 participants:

• Awakening Part One (Season 1, Episode 1): in Manhattan, NYPD detective Elisa Maza arrives on the scene of some sort of battle; a thousand years before, a castle on the coasts of Scotland is attacked by Vikings.
• Pendragon (Season 2, Episode 35): in this break from the World Tour, the Stone of Destiny sends King Arthur and Griff to Manhattan so that the former can compete with Macbeth for possession of Excalibur. Featuring: the Trio and Hudson!
• Possession (Season 2, Episode 49): Alexander is ready to receive his first lesson in magic by Puck. Its purpose: to make it so that all three souls within Coldstone get their own body.

Round 26 participants (April 24th):

• Protection (Season 2, Episode 18).
• Turf (Season 2, Episode 47).
• New Rules (Here In Manhattan, Issue #10).
• The Pledge (Dark Ages, Issue #6).

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I can’t find any of the Gargoyle titles on Dynamite’s website. I only see them in Comixology and Amazon (kindle) but I’m trying to avoid Amazon purchases whenever possible. Are they available anywhere else?

I've seen the Switch orders went out over a couple months ago now, and I'm still waiting on my PS4 classic edition to have shipping news...

Detective Broadway available for purchase.

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what makes it non canon?