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Remember the Food

Looking back now, I am thinking about how JWs “love food” and even are reminded on stage how much they “love food”.

My parents loved hospitality and made some really good food.

My family also started having a lot of people over and making food and we would always get really good comments… I also make homemade pizza and one time I did it for hospitality and made like 10 pizzas and there was one sister that said “I just want to take you home with me” which was really awkward in front of 20 other witnesses and my wife and kid.

We rarely got invited over unless it was a congregation gathering because I wasn’t a pioneer and so I wasn’t in with all the other pioneer couples, plus the elders knew my past so there was always a strange distance for a lot of people, plus you know how halls have cliques everywhere and this was no different, despite being there for 10 years or so.

But really I look back at all the events and the food I had and I think… was it really that good? There could be some outlier meals/good cooks but actually for the most part, most of the dishes were kinda bland, lacked good flavor or were like staple dishes that are not exciting at all. People would however beg me each time to bring a specific dish I made or appetizer, like this one:

https://www.daisyjaney.com/RecipePages/BahamaBillysHotCalypsoCheeseBread.html

My question to you all is: Was the food really that good? Or was it that we were excited to gather and associate outside of a Kingdom Hall or field service/ministry?

Looking back, I don’t think the food was that good. I think our emotions of excitement of doing something that finally seemed kinda fun, made us appreciate the food more.

P.S. - the old assembly meals back in the 90s will still hold a place in my heart, but that was an exception and not from local brothers/sisters

2 Comments
2024/12/04
14:34 UTC

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Watchtower’s Judgement Incoming!

Jesus believed in karma. He knew how the world, the universal laws worked… the JW governing body doesn’t have a clue…

What’s going to happen now is karma. Because of all the judgement the Watchtower Corp has dished out over the years and it’s finally time for this to come back around.

Don’t be surprised how quickly this tower falls. The judgment they inflicted upon innocent people who just wanted to do good things for others and subsequently being lied to about how to be a good person is coming full circle!

Let’s see how this works!

Put it out there get this downfall moving at record rates!

Be kind to the community though. The leaders have another judgment.

8 Comments
2024/12/04
13:39 UTC

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Rebuilding our Community

Human beings are social creatures. We need community to give our lives meaning, connection, safety, support and comfort. This is why losing our entire community at once is one of the most painful aspects of leaving the JW org.

In today's episode we make space to honor the grief of this transition, and discuss how rewire our limiting core beliefs about social connection in service of rebuilding a nurturing, loving community from the ground up

About the podcast:

My name is Dr Ryan Lee. I am a former JW and a practicing therapist specializing in ex-JW support for the past 5 years.

This is a very personal podcast on the process of waking up, walking out, and moving on from life as a JW. Straight-to-the-point insights from someone who's been there, done that, and is now professionally helping others do the same.

Let me know what you think!

Available on all streaming platforms

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/28-rebuilding-your-community/id1753610926?i=1000679194649

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6xPzW9oZUivfwFuXmE5wSJ?si=2b661e0ff0c6493a

2 Comments
2024/12/04
13:38 UTC

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Will the borg survive the death of GB?

I always felt that the website will be the downfall of the organization. The Orginal GB couldn't resist the allure of fame and control it gave them. However, I feel like it will die with them.

A conversation I regularly heard among JW's is "Who's your fav GB member". I noticed that people choose a GB member based on his personality. Their dad was strict like Splain. Their uncle was goofy like Lett. Their neighbour reminded them of Jackson. Herd reminded them of their grandfather.

The OGB played well into their personalities. Lett is very well aware that he's being a clown. But he's also aware that it makes him endearing to JW's, i mean who doesn't like the comedy relief character?

But these new GB members have nothing. They are just plain, vanilla, water flavored men. The OGB members spent a lot of time talking about family and personal experiences, people melt when a man talks about his family. These new guys are just business.

This is the equivalent of a drug kingpin handing over his empire to his son, without teaching him how to be ruthless.

17 Comments
2024/12/04
12:07 UTC

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Did any of you viewed Pornography as a PIMI?

If so how did it affect you, did you confess and if you did what was the outcome?

20 Comments
2024/12/04
11:53 UTC

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My Book of Bible Stories is gonna be he'll in kids

*Hell on kids

If the midweek meeting started with "My book of Bible Stories", it would make much more sense as most children would still be awake and alert enough to take part.

But in all their wisdom, they have chosen to discuss it at the end, when most kids are irritable or have fallen asleep.

This may lead to parents to punishing their children to stay awake to give that comment they prepared, because they need to show to the entire congregation how spiritually mature their children are in the silent, competitive sport where JW parents mentally compete with other parents to prove to themselves that their kids are developing faster.

Either way, their grand plan to indoctrinate kids is gonna result in more angry children than ever hating the religion because it destroyed their childhood.

Or I could be wrong. Maybe they'll love being pinched to stay awake and they'll have fond memories of their parents angry whispering at them to comment on meeting nights

6 Comments
2024/12/04
11:36 UTC

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Do PIMI actually not masturbate

I’ve been pimo since I was 13 so doesn’t apply to me. But seriously do they just have a wet dream once in a blue moon and carry on? I can’t fathom it

77 Comments
2024/12/04
07:00 UTC

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How many of the GB are married?

Just curious how many stayed single for jj

14 Comments
2024/12/04
06:06 UTC

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Have you ever asked them...."What if you're wrong?"

Have any of you ever asked your JW family and friends, "What if you're wrong?"

Not in a debate, not in a i'm going to prove to you, but in a sincere "What if you're wrong?"

What if you're wrong and when you die, you don't wake up in a paradise?

What if you're wrong and you wake up and realized you let your child die for lack of a blood transfusion?

What if you're wrong and it was another religion that actually had the "truth"?

What if you're wrong? You can claim that you are right 100% of the time (I sure did when I was in), but what if.....

12 Comments
2024/12/04
05:49 UTC

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PIMO Life is Exhausting

I kind of wish I never woke up. My situation won’t allow me to fully break away. I’m unfortunately an appointed brother with many responsibilities. I have parents (especially my dad) who is deeply blinded no matter what I bring to his attention.

Even though I’m an adult and can do whatever I want, my love for them has me in a chokehold. I’m so lost and angry, depressed, full of anxieties, my brain doesn’t rest… the list goes on. I’m tired of the majority of fake “friends” at the hall who truly couldn’t care less about me or my family; or anyone else for that matter. I’m also fake because I no longer want any part of this religion and I have to act like it’s my truth when it no longer is.

Life is heavy right now. I hope everyone else who is going through this is doing well otherwise. I know I’m not the only one with these insane emotions that have a way of taking a physical toll. You’re not alone and I know I’m not either.

I’ve been away from this sub for some months now. I deleted multiple posts and comments, but I always find my way back… And here I am again.

-Love ya’ guys, seriously. 🖤

20 Comments
2024/12/04
05:47 UTC

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Does the Governing Body Respect Pres DT?

If they don't they will soon! He will become their master lol

5 Comments
2024/12/04
04:52 UTC

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JW. Com still in operation?

Anybody know if Simons site is still up and running? Can't find it searching JW.com

4 Comments
2024/12/04
04:33 UTC

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How many times was it awkward for you when a non jw asked you if you were going to church but you had to say "No we go to the Kingdom Hall"?

It's just an unnecessary term to separate us while making normal conversations feel uncomfortable. Since waking up I tell people I go to church. I'm finished with that part of using their terms. Unless obviously if I'm in ear range of a fellow jw. Since I'm still in I have to go along with some of their games.

34 Comments
2024/12/04
03:25 UTC

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Seeing my family for the first time in 10 years.

I ran away from home ten years ago and ive decided to fly home for my grandmother's funeral and to show my non jw family that I love them even if I barely got to know them. Ill be seeing my parents who are super PIMI and were incredibly controlling. Im actively having a panic attack about this.

9 Comments
2024/12/04
03:01 UTC

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December 2024 Broadcast?

My mother is rambling about the December broadcast, something about it being mind blowing and we live in “exciting times”. Anybody know what’s got them riled up without me having to torture myself with watching it?

44 Comments
2024/12/04
02:52 UTC

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Today's meeting has a video showing when Jesus a man to sell everything he owned and give to the poor to gain everlasting life

I'd be curious to see how the Governing Body would react if Jesus asked the same thing today. Apparently this man in the Bible had many properties..thus blinding him on what was really good.

So we are to believe that now that Jesus is King in heaven he chose an organization that has become a real estate company? That doesn't give back to the poor?

11 Comments
2024/12/04
02:48 UTC

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Militant JWs

Does anyone know of any JWs who are preparing for a Last of US scenario. Literally preparing ammunition and weaponry?

9 Comments
2024/12/04
02:24 UTC

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Baptism is a trap-What potential converts are unaware of

Even though I am not baptized and never will be, reading experiences of ex-Jehovah's Witnesses who were shunned after leaving the cult, helped me to soldify my claim that baptism is a trap. Once you're dipped in, there is no way out. If you leave or begin to openly express your doubts, there are social repercussions. I am glad I never took that step because one I have been PIMO my whole life and second, I know that once I get baptized, I will lose my social circle if I decide I don't want to be a JW anymore.

I feel extremely bad for people who get baptized, especially 9 years olds, because if they change their mind and no longer want to be a member of the Watchtower cultporation, they will lose everything. It is what no one tells them before they get baptized.

On a side note, the Watchtower society states that people should not date unless they are ready to get married because marriage is a big decision but then they allow children, especially 8 year olds, get make a big decision without weighing the consequences of their choice. After all, aren't minors not allowed to sign contracts?

9 Comments
2024/12/04
01:52 UTC

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Christian denomination quiz after reading the gospels from a different Bible.

I took the Christian denomination quiz after reading Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John without study aids and I've become a Chinese communist protestant or an Amish that can drive...

https://preview.redd.it/dcfo7gtp1p4e1.png?width=775&format=png&auto=webp&s=8e7430bdf8efa491bcbf1b29512925159995eac9

1 Comment
2024/12/03
20:34 UTC

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I wrote a horror story inspired by my experiences

Here’s a link to the story if you want to read it! It’s the first thing I’ve ever written so please be kind 😅

https://www.reddit.com/r/nosleep/s/E4RhT9e3Po

It’s very symbolic, but I’m interested to see how you interpret it! The idea came to me in a hotel room, late one night. I had just left, my world was upside down. The theme is something very meaningful to me.

Hope you enjoy it!

4 Comments
2024/12/03
22:55 UTC

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I am Gallant, my answer is here.

This is a hybrid ask/tales post. It seems I can’t use my iPhone to tag more than one flair. I apologize, I don’t usually use this app. Maybe it’s only one flair per post.

My fake name is Gallant. Not revealing my real name even if it’s probably here somewhere else. (Mostly to hide) I left around late ‘23/early ‘24.

So have my bio and step-parents. Grandma is the only one left. She fears (iirc) that I am either leaning towards becoming an apostate or aggressively consuming exJW material to do said previous act. She’s only mostly wrong.

I reached out to Lloyd Evans recently, and he has responded, pretty helpfully imo. I will link only in a comment if rules allow but it’s #203.

I was born a JW, almost the entire family had been since ‘74 till around last year or so, but now there’s tension upon my leaving. She feels I have not left but I was firm in my decision from day one of thinking about it. She wants the whole family to reconvert, but don’t worry she has no intention of pursuing this by force.

But she can take 95% of my irl friend circle away from me. They’re almost all witnesses. Always have been. And they are not uncomfortable, but my grandma is, and I fear she may tell, even though she says she won’t.

I admit as said in the voicemail I do suffer from some delusions. In my experience delusions are a part of life, and sad as that is I have to live with it.

She’s only got ~~15 more years at most. I don’t want to lose her early with almost all my lifelong JW friends, just because they could think that I am harming them and all witnesses by having left.

I want to be happy. I want her to be happy. I want this drama out of my life, JW or otherwise.

Though I feel Lloyd and most of his comment section gives a good response, what do you feel?

1 Comment
2024/12/03
22:55 UTC

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Does anyone recognize where this pic is from?

Saw this on the internet. They said it was from a WT tract but not specific. I’d like to look it up if someone can help. Thank you 😊

6 Comments
2024/12/03
19:00 UTC

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The two good things this ‘snare and a racket’ taught me.

  1. Hell is made up. If you don’t have an afterlife you just rest in peace.

  2. Religion is a snare. You’re better off without it.

Anyone have anything I forgot?

8 Comments
2024/12/04
00:43 UTC

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Have any JW's seen Heretic?

I bet some JWs will go and watch this, I know I would have wanted to watch it even if I was JW, since the film involves mormons and not JW's, i guess some will feel its acceptable to watch.
Looks like its been out a while, but here in New Zealand it was only released on the 28th of november, im hoping to go and watch it this week.

25 Comments
2024/12/04
00:03 UTC

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How do you not get disheartened observing how the GB could ask JWs to believe anything and most do?

I can't believe the irrational things I am being told by long time PIMIs.

  1. We don't need Bible knowledge as much as we need obedience to the GB.

  2. The Governing Body never taught a strong shunning, that was up to each JWs conscience! CO told me that!

  3. Blood transfusions were always a Christian personal matter, not the elders.

I tried debunking the three lies above and the gaslighting was strong. I was asked if I was using apostate literature while showing them right out of the Watchtower publications.

9 Comments
2024/12/03
23:22 UTC

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End of the disfellowshipping announcement

Is anyone aware of a letter sent to the elders informing that the announcement of disfellowshipping can no longer take place? There are no more announcements of disfellowshipping in Kingdom Halls. Is anyone aware of this?

15 Comments
2024/12/03
23:17 UTC

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