I'm struggling to find composers who specialise in traditional folk instruments and compose for production music libraries.

Does anyone have recommendations on where/how to find the right people?

Thanks

How much klezmer is there in european musical orientalism

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How much european musical orientalism is there in klezmer?

I forgot the genre which name, but it's definitely not *southern* banjo country music but more like northern country music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJQ17v0v4ug

Does anyone have info?

I forgot the genre which name, but it's definitely not *southern* banjo country music but more like northern country music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJQ17v0v4ug

Does anyone have info?

Out of the various types of polyphonic techniques, the canon stands slightly apart by the sheer conceptual simplicity. It seems to me the basic idea of a canon must have occurred to people all over human history at several times.

However, having the idea is not the same as implementing it well, so I imagine that it may have fallen in rocky ground due to unappealing initial attempts. My question here is: do we have attestations of canons in traditional music outside of Europe? Are there even canons in traditional music of the Caucasus?

https://youtube.com/zU8NH25MGjQ

This video grabbed my attention. Is there more info to this? Wikipedia's article on Andaman and Nicobar music comes it across as tribal savage's music, but here this guy sings in a very unique and specific modal. Did he get it from the Aryas or did the Aryas get them from his predecessors?

I did a basic search and it said it came from the region of Hue, Vietnam's old capital in the centre, but when it went south it adopted the "melodies" of the south but the lyrics remained the same. What does that mean? The melody of Đờn ca tài tử sounds a bit Indian superficial, superficial but may be it had something to do with Cham music, but I searched it up and listened to some but even though there was some similarity, it was very like used alot of percussion and the song was not very cultivated, but all the folk music of Vietnam sounds similar to Đờn ca tài tử which is just really an umbrella term. But what did the music of Tonkin sound like without southern influence?

Drum called Dundhubhi in Ramayana !!

Hello! I hope my questions made sense. Goat is a Swedish experimental rock/jam band that has remained mostly anonymous since their debut. They are known for their first album titled World Music as an intentional reclamation of the ethnocentric label.

Just curious how you feel about the discussion about cultural appropriation in how the band presents/expresses itself. One of the articles about them here brought it up and now I'm wracking my brain trying to think of an answer on what I believe.

With the sole exception of Christian Johansson, who gave a handful of interviews in the band’s infancy, the identities of Goat’s members have remained veiled in mystery ever since they emerged into the public consciousness two years ago. Although, to refer to them as “members” is probably overly prescriptive. Supposedly hailing from a commune in the remote north of Sweden, Goat functions more as a continuum of ideas and musical activity than a strictly delimited group: a fluid collective of individuals coalescing – albeit temporarily, perhaps fleetingly – around a shared sensibility, a shared music.

Given their sensitivity to the myriad complexities surrounding our consumption of music from around the world, it’d surely be a simplification to label Goat’s music – and, in particular, its use of African and Middle Eastern sounds – as an example of crude, or politically suspect, cultural appropriation. Yet, the fact that this charge is not uncommon in discussions of their music is more likely due to the subtlety of the distinction – between Goat’s ideal of ‘world music’ and the more common meaning of the term – than the shallowness of their listeners. As The Guardian’s Michael Hann wrote in his review of ‘Commune’: “After all, the notion of a bunch of Swedes taking African-styled guitar melodies and welding them on to droning psychedelia could easily be taken for cultural appropriation. But then Goat, with their masked players on stage, are reliant upon appropriation for their exotic sense of otherness, which is key to their appeal.”

Member's thoughts on the term "World Music"

“And so, we also feel that, like, genres are pretty, pretty – I mean, sometimes you need to call things stuff – but it’s pretty old-fashioned also, you know? Because things are mixed up now, things are mixed up all the time and are getting mixed up more and more and more. The world is getting more global and connected with each other. All music exists in all music, so the genres we talk about today are so silly sometimes. And so we call our music ‘world music’ because it belongs to the world and it comes from the world, as simple as that really. You know, it comes from the world and it belongs to all parts of it. That’s how we want to use the word.”

• Okay, this is unrelated to my questions for the most part but I am just so intrigued about the band's background of being part of a commune and the collective creative process of the members of the community. -

I think being able to question, express, and ponder one's identity is a privilege in and of itself, and so perhaps that may influence the band's ability to experiment in the first place and take inspiration from other cultures/identities? But this is coming from me, one who lives in America and has learned understandings of race, class, culture, etc. within that framework - I'm curious to know other perspectives because of this!!

Personally, I was initially more curious about their efforts of maintaining anonymity - and it's effect of creating a genderless, sexless, and *almost* raceless aesthetic. I want to research the clothing they're wearing and see what their origins are since I can't recognize them. For me, I find the band empowering. Not only because I love rock music, but I feel like the genderless, mystical look of the band and the mix of sound that explores different moods and tempos brings me peace. I'm not sure how else to explain it. I think it reflects the inner movement of my thoughts and makes me feel validated in a way as a human. It's feelings like this that makes me think more about my spirituality, is this something that's researched?

And what are your opinions of the term "World Music"? I have to admit that when I was in highschool, I was intimidated by the genre and would only briefly sift through the CDs. This band, along with KGATLW have expanded my interest and respect for microtones and the fusion of different sounds and rhythms.

Is this kind of discussion prevalent in any current research projects or papers in general? I don't know a ton about enthnomusicology as a field/research interest, but I am a current Anthro major looking at graduate programs in ethnographic fieldwork with focus on kinship, culture, and identity (this may change, it's a work in progress lol). Would love to learn more!

TIA sorry for rambling this band is cool

So, I pondered something just a little bit ago:

Languages tend to evolve in predictable patterns over certain periods of time. For example: P sounds tend to morph into F sounds at a similar rate across all languages throughout history. Similar things examples can be found with various other sounds.

With these predictable sound morphs, alongside shared root words across Europe and parts of Asia, we can reconstruct the ancestor language shared between languages like Sanskrit and Latin, called Proto-Indo European, thought to have existed in a semi-nomadic society around Ukraine, Turkey, and Russia around the year 5000-3000 BCE. No written texts exist from the language, but we can reconstruct the sound within a certain level of theoretical accuracy.

With that being said: does music follow any similar trend across all cultures and systems? And, in theory, could we look at similarities in folk music styles around the world to reconstruct a theoretical ancestors between them, taking into account outside influences? Has anyone ever tried something like that?

It might be hard, since language changes tend to happen very slowly, whereas music innovations can come from a single person or ensemble and take hold in only a few years.

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I searched to see if someone has answered something similar to this in this subreddit and could not find anything.

I'm curious to see if people have resources for learning about harmony in Non-Western music. Either homophony or polyphony. I know various cultures often use parallel diads like fifths, fourths, thirds, and sixths. I'm also aware of Bulgarian and Georgian choirs as an example of something resembling polyphony. I really enjoy the sound of the chords used in some Japanese traditional music via the Sho (instrument). There are interesting cluster chords that have this eery suspended sound. I find it striking that I cannot find much mention of the chords used in the Sho in anything I read online about non-western harmony, even though it seems to be readily made available in articles that discuss the Sho itself.

So given my surprise in finding out that this is a thing, I'm curious if there are other less talked about examples of harmony that further complicate the (clearly false) picture created by the common refrain that harmony is something uniquely western. I'm really just looking for good resources to read about more of these kinds of examples so I can explore listening to and understanding them.

I love this tune. I guess it's sort of pentatonic? Does anyone know if this lullaby is influenced by any Western music? It has so many skips in it, compared to a scale having mostly steps. Could there be any Japanese influence? (It was colonized at one point, and I believe there are Japanese scales which have skips in them....). thank you for any input!

https://youtu.be/eGjgLrWbIfQ?si=UiW9JTeug4GgXutO

I need help!! I’m currently trying to research Filipino Visayan pre-colonial music. This can include lullabies, dance music, instruments, it could literally be anything. Does anyone happen to have any resources for this? I’ve currently been trying Smithsonian Folkways and UP Center of Ethnomusicology.

i've been trying to find more information on the music of indigenous cultures (particularly from North America, South America, Central America, and Hawai'i) but can't seem to find any accessible resources. i know the term indigenous encompasses a massive amount of music, but i've been struggling to find anything at all, so even unspecific information would be helpful. i'm really just looking for a point in the right direction.

Hi all! I'm a music enthusiast and composer who's always been fascinated by how music changes depending on its context. I spend a lot of time in the mountains, and every once in a while, I hear about people who like to bring their guitar or a keyboard on a hike somewhere to play music outside, unamplified. For me, the thought of taking contemporary western pop/folk music outside seems to be removing it from its primary context of studio recordings and amplified concert venues. Similarly, I once heard John Luther Adams talk about hearing one of his percussion pieces performed outside, and how it lacked the power of hearing it indoors. This has got me wondering: there are a few instruments and music traditions I know of that have their origins in mountain regions, for example the melting pot of Appalachian folk music or the Swiss Alphorn. Is there any writing, research, or resources that consider the context of mountain regions on a people group's music? A quick Google search has me thinking this may be too wide a net to cast; how the music of Tuva evolved may be pretty separate from the purpose of the Alphorn, for instance. Still, I thought I'd post here and see if anyone has any interesting reading I can look into, or music to listen to. Thanks in advance!

Greetings,

I have this album song here that is or has been inspired by traditional african music:

https://youtu.be/Z3y5LrmG0bI?t=24

Can someone tell me what kind of traditional african music this song might have been based off and if yes do you know some prominent traditional songs with the same rhythmic pattern?

Thanks!

I maintain a daily music blog where I write about a different genre every day out of a list of 2,000, and it's gotten me very interested in maybe pursuing musicology. I get a lot of far-flung, fascinating genres and it's given me an unparalleled chance to explore the world musically. I'm just an amateur college student blogging, but I'd appreciate your support and thought it would resonate here. https://reidht.substack.com/

I'm looking for a Ukranian traditional song someone taught me a while ago. I specifically know that the line "a ja je prodala" is very repetarive in this song. The main melody is very simple and it's in 4/4.

In modern Western music theory, Locrian mode is considered largely unusable for harmonies and melodies. Few (if any) composers have written pieces entirely in Locrian.

However, the mode dates back Ancient Greece. It was one of the seven modes of Ancient Greek music theory.

I was wondering if any musicals traditions make use Locrian or something more-or-less equivalent tuning-wise. If so, what are some songs from these cultures that use this mode? And how is the sound of the "Locrian mode" perceived in these cultures, if there is any association?

Also, has anyone heard any reconstructed Ancient Greek music in Locrian?

I'm writing a piece for choir and two oboes that's a setting of a Greek theatre chorus (from The Frogs). I think I might want some aspects of Locrian in it to add tension, so hence why I'm curious for examples. There will be no harmony in my piece (it's meant to air more on the side of reconstructed music), so the tritones aren't such a concern.

...but not necessarily working on a traditional genre. Something like what John Zorn does for Jewish music would be a good reference point I guess. My best bets are Anouar Brahem (jazz) or Muslimgauze (electronic). I know very little of it (Arab music) so feel free to recommend anything that remotely fits.

Hello everyone,

There are some works in the Western classical music repertoire that are widely considered as masterpieces, such as Beethoven's 9th Symphony or Mozart's Requiem, for example.

Could you tell me of analogous cases outside of the Western tradition?