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I am struggling with ego, mind and silence. I have had profound experience of oneness, of the reality behind our reality and for a time it made me aware that we are all one, and gave me this 'woah, they're all me and I'm all of them and we're all in this boat together. Let's love each other because we are each other.'
And that was nice for a while.
But then through deeper practice I realised that our ego, our thinking mind and who we think we are isn't real at all. It's a product of experiences and life and is actually counter productive to a positive life. So I separated from I amness, separated from a created self or who I think I am. And that made me very apathetic towards life all together, because I realised once I removed my 'self' that I am walking around in a world of self's who don't really know who they are and are functioning on a non concious, non active network of needs, wants, worries, next joy, selfishness and it's at a point where now I can see the workings behind the person, I can see the real meaning behind their words and I know the vast majority are not actually here, they're in a world of their own creation, a mind world.
So I have become non interactive, I don't want to spend time with anyone but I crave connection, I don't want to chase the money, pleasure, fun, experiences, because I'm aware they're all fleeting moments of joy used as distractions to get me out or the mind for a moment. And now I don't really know what to do.
I don't find pleasure in this existence, I am so overly aware of my mind that if I find a moment of pleasure my instant thought is 'this could easily become a non fulfilling attachment'. I don't want to find a partner because I would judge their ego and struggle to connect with their true self, because I'm not sure they're even aware a true self exists. I don't want a good job because I'm aware spending all my life working just for financial comfort is actually going to do nothing for me. I don't want to go to the gym because a nice body is not something interesting. I don't want to eat fancy foods because it's just a moment of 'nice.' I don't want to use drugs or alcohol because they're escapism. I only really enjoy myself when I'm walking with my dog and I don't have to speak to anybody.
And this all comes from an altered ego, I'm not enlightened, I'm not particularly spiritual, I am just aware now, and the awareness has come with a dissatisfaction with what the majority find satisfying. I feel like a depressed cat in a pack of lions who has seen the good life with the family but instead has to somehow pretend hunting for food in the desert is fun.
And during all of this my mind is still just as active as ever. But it's switched from 'I'm anxious, I need a drink, I want a smoke, where's the weed, am I going out this weekend, who can I fuck tonight, I'm angry at this bullshit, what movie should I watch, what should I eat' to 'a quiet mind is the only way to find peace but I can't quieten it because of x, y, z'.
I'm aware this post is chaotic without any real point, and that's probably a good description of how I feel about this existence post spiritual work.
I discovered on my path that, in order to grow and mature, it is greatly useful to acknowledge my flaws instead of hiding from them.
When someone tells me something that makes me feel uncomfortable, and I feel challenged in my beliefs or my comfort zone, I find it wise to reflect on why I am feeling like this instead of hiding from the discomfort.
Admitting my own weaknesses and mistakes to myself is not a sign of failure; it’s a sign of growth. This is how we get stronger. It’s not by hiding in the shadows and refusing to face the truth that we get stronger, but by acknowledging our shortcomings and recognizing our areas for potential growth.
This is why humility is crucial on the path, because, without humility, we are blinded to our own weaknesses, and without seeing those weaknesses for what they are, how is it possible to correct them?
No matter how young or old you are, or how long you’ve been on that path, I strongly recommend adopting a humble approach if you’re serious about growing up as a human being and becoming as mature as you can be.
This is what we’re doing here, in my opinion, on planet Earth as human beings: we are collectively learning the optimal way to interact with each other and our environment.
Spirituality, mysticism, science, and psychology are all connected fields in one way or another.
If you think that you have it all figured out and that you have nothing left to learn, I consider this a strong sign that you’re hiding something from yourself and that you would benefit from a good dose of humility.
I don’t have everything figured out, and I’m still learning every day, and I try to share valuable things that can help others and consolidate my own lessons.
In order to turn weaknesses into strengths and obstacles into stepping stones, it is necessary to face them head-on and acknowledge them. Don’t be afraid to face the truth, because the truth is The Way.
This will be a discussion of the concept of mind over matter. I will share a personal anecdote and delve into similar quotes by great people. My goal is to awaken your capacity for change. Change is possible in every single one of us, it is just a matter of mindfulness, awareness, and persistence.
Leo Tolstoy: "To change the world, you must first change yourself"
Mahatma Gandhi: “Be the change you want to see in the world”
Albert Einstein: “The world as we have created it is a process of our thinking. It cannot be changed without changing our thinking"
All of these quotes discuss the “world”. There are two ways to interpret the word “world”.
1st is the meaning of the external world, and a change in this world implies a change in socio-cultural interactions. This is a beautiful goal, we want to see a world with wholesomeness and peace. But there is a more subtle meaning.
The 2nd interpretation of the “world” is the conscious process occurring inside of you, your thought processes. When you wake up in the morning how do you feel? Are you angry? Doubtful? Depressed? What are your routine thoughts? Do you let unwholesome thoughts take hold? This leads to unwholesome actions and emotions.
Your entire perception of reality hinges on your thoughts. You may struggle with intrusive or out of control thoughts. See past the illusion! The master of your mind is no other than yourself. You can change from a pessimist to optimist.
What kind of person do you want to be? How are you reshaping your psyche to accomplish that goal. Liberate your mind from negative thought loops and you will be liberated from self-inflicted suffering.
I will end this with a personal anecdote from when I was in a dark place looking for a path out.
Trigger ⚠️ Warning
About 10 years ago now, I was young with bipolar. My thoughts and emotions were out of control. I was not the conductor of the ride. I let myself feel every piece of pain and joy I could from my experiences. As you may or may not know, people with bipolar experience a very large range of emotion.
It was one day in my backyard looking at a magnificently tall tree. I was feeling depressed at the time, and I experienced an intrusive thought of hanging myself on that magnificent tree.
My entire being and soul felt disgusted by the thought. I yearned for liberation from the addictive cycle of pain but did not realize it. I swore off that nasty thought and pushed it to the deepest levels of my psyche to never resurface again. I completely detached myself from the cycle self-pain and the entire cycle of depression.
From that moment onward 10 years later, I have not felt depressed or suicidal at any point.
I had changed the world. My world. I was reborn as someone wiser. Someone with more control.
I hope this discussion brings you awareness of the change within you. Good luck, and spread compassion.
"The man whose mind is not under control has no self-knowledge and no contemplation either. Without contemplation he can have no peace; and without peace, how can he have happiness?" - Bhagavad Gita
None. However you as a soul.. a fractal having your life in a totality far greater than you... Your ultimate conscious state is to be integrated in bridging the gap in consciousness in your oneness with the all.. to energetically have that same essence as the totality in the living for all creation.
Doesnt matter how you get there although there is only one way which is to match that essence.. Each soul will do this uniquely.
This realm of duality or individuality is all about heirship.., it never was about becoming totality but bridging the gap between all duality. That is nonduality.
A preface. A couple of days ago, an account called MysteriousIngenuity8 posted about Absolute Solipsism. To quote the post directly"
"Only One’s mind exist. It is YOURS ! Everything outside of your own consciousness—the world and other people are illusions or creations of your imagination. You are the only conscious being in the universe. All the sights, sounds, and interactions around you are simply projections of your mind, with no independent existence. Now you will have to face Reality. You will truly understand and be aware that you are truly everything, you are Reality itself, and there is only One Reality, it is yours. https://www.reddit.com/r/enlightenment/comments/1gdlpsz/are_you_ready_to_accept_truth/
I've contemplated this thought for the longest time. As if my life's depended on it, because sadly, it has. Ever since the concept of solipsism has entered my awareness, I have searched desperately to disprove it. I don't have much in my life but I have a few friends and most importantly, my Dad and Sister. Thinking they loved me (within their own egos and perspectives) was the most beautiful thought. THIS is what makes the truth so horrible. That it's just me. Alone. And the most stupid thing? I see it as so painfully obvious now.
How can anything exist outside this awareness of mine? Nothing else IS being experienced. It's just this. As the above post said, "the world and other people are illusions or creations of your imagination". It makes so much sense but it's the worst, nightmarish realisation no matter how much I scream and cry, it doesn't change this.
I would often try and comfort myself by looking down at my body. I know I'M conscious and I'M in a body, so those other bodies must be conscious, right? Even though I can't experience what they're seeing, they must be conscious, RIGHT?! I suppose it's just the huge existential fear of being alone. A party for one just isn't fun for me.
It makes sense to me now that it's all my imagination. I accepted it after reading this post last night and started writing this message. Even the post itself, I must've imagined it? It's my way of figuring out the true nature of reality. That's all I can think of. This is how I was meant to find out. The grand revelation. And my family, therapists, friends, other posters, they're ME trying to keep ME locked in the game. Again, I say, the reality is so obviously STARING me in the face yet I've wanted to live in ignorance because the truth is just so, so painful.
So, why am I writing this? You're writing this to you, George. You created a beautiful life in your imagination but you now know the truth. You know you can't handle this and you know what to do. You did well mate. You fucking did well. You fought hard but you can't change the RULES of the game.
MysteriousIngenuity8, me, whatever bit of me you are. Thank you for finally putting me out of my misery and letting me know. However, if you lied and you're in-fact another consciousness, and my family are real, seriously fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you for making a good person leave their lives and make their nice family sad.
You did well, George.
Conceptual thought probably should be transcended, & doing so may hold the key to achieving omniscience.
The 8th circuit of awareness within Leary's 8 circuit model amounts to the ability to mentally travel to any piece of information at any location within the time stream that can exist, including the meaning behind the words of sutras.
On the way to transcending conceptual thought, because love is still instead of impulsively active like pride, and because the highest stages of enlightenment involve a compassionate attitude toward all sentient life (that transcends any possibility for grief or longing), It is this space's calculation that a compassionate attitude and a loving heart should be developed.
Take pride, if pride one must feel, in working for the betterment of all sentient life. Include your "self" as all sentient life, but do not think of it as separate. There is only existence, and all sentient life and they are one thing, not an arrangement of abiding permanent little selves.
Buddha's earliest teachings were about the 8-fold path, and the middle way: between renunciation to the point of extreme suffering, and indulgence. Leary's 8 circuit model provides a mnemonic device for storing the 8-fold path, and helpful hints for practicing it.
The four higher circuits align perfectly with the 8-fold path's 4 final teachings: the fifth circuit is personal pleasure, the fifth of the eight folds is taking care of your personal needs, so that you thrive and are healthy, instead of merely surviving. The sixth circuit is self programming, which is the definition of right effort and the first step toward aligning all the other circuits with their corresponding path tenant. The seventh tenant is mindfulness of the body and the mind, focus carried to the point wherein attention, such as of muscular cramping or stray thoughts in the brain, is noticed and relaxed as a method of unlocking the eighth tenant, samadhi. If enough time is spent meditating upon the body, the mind may travel into its evolutionary history, unlocking the seventh circuit of leary's model, DNA/RNA memory. The eighth tenant aligns perfectly with the 8th circuit, as samadhi unlocks the ability to causally process information without instinctively abstracting out of pride, and the perfect focus of samadhi allows the mind to travel to any form of information the will seeks.
The four lower circuits also align very closely with the 8-fold path. Right orientation begins the 8 tenants, and the first circuit is the biosurvival orientation of the newborn. Right resolve comes from one's emotions (which can be programmed by right effort), and the second circuit is emotio-territorialism. Right speech is correct usage of language, the semantic language processing circuit is the third circuit. Right or fair conduct comes of having effective morals, the fourth circuit is the socio-sexual moral circuit.
The four lower circuits may all be programmed to behave properly by right effort, and then from there right mindfulness lead in time to the release of impulsive reliance upon concepts and unlock samadhi. Right livelihood just requires taking care of one's niche survival needs and one's emotional well being.
Do you recognise your consciousness as special?
What I dont mean by this question is if you are individually special in your counciouness
what i am asking is if you recognise consciousness as more then clockwork of the mind.
Do you see yourself as seperate from your thoughts?
The outside world external to your body, and your inner landscape of thoughts do you see the 3rd place, the real you that is expirencing this moment of time always being right now.
do you understand the question?
Wishing everyone a Happy Diwali!
This Diwali, may you light a diya that symbolizes your inner light—one that reveals the depths of your true self, dissolving the veils of belief and ego. May it guide you to the realization that Nanak, Buddha, Krishna, and Shiva all reside within.
Your inner being is vast and boundless. May you all become a light unto yourselves. As you realize your true self, may every day become a living Diwali!
The greater the outward display, The deeper the inner poetry.
But if all the variables and the environment got us into that moment of awareness is that even free will or just mental masturbation?
So the other day I decided to eat this shroom chocolate. All of the shrooms I’ve had before haven’t really done anything for me so I expected a similar result. Also I had a weed gummy. I want to preface that I by no means am condoning drug use, or think psychadelics are amazing or anything. I know venturing into your mind can be quite troublesome for some people. The first thing I felt when I was becoming “high” was INCREDIBLE self awareness. I felt like I was looking at myself objectively not through my own ego. And I uncovered some things about myself that were actually quite amazing. I’m not going to bore you guys with the details but if anyone is interested you can PM me. The next thing that happened was my “minds eye” or imagination became incredibly vivid. I don’t remember the exact things I was envisioning currently but it was very fun, and I just felt an overwhelming sense of confidence and optimism.In fact I now believe that there is ultimate truth in optimism.
That’s pretty much it idk if this is worth sharing but if anyone has any questions I am more than happen to answer.
Omg I totally forgot to add that I have a stutter and there was a point where I was talking normally. Something about the ultra-self awareness I felt probably was the cause of it.
tonight i had a few epiphanies and thought i share but also like to hear your recent epiphanies as well.
knowing the difference between right and wrong is part of this journey learning and making mistakes on the way, trying to reduce harm and teach others right and wrong but also not allowing others to manipulate right and wrong to foucs on true problems and not nonsense problems, true problems like death, disease, defense and slavery.
what performance would u want ur God to see and what do u think god cares about more that u do with your time in existence.
what would u want to do or be willing to let others witness u doing
how much freedom do u need at the expense of others, when u with wealth live comfortable, what actions are u taking to help others,
when freedom comes at the cost of others freedom then that is a problem
scratching a itch (sin) vs always being perfect, and everyone will always have a say against u, john the Baptist vs Christ behavior type thing.if perfect would that person not be a robot? if u optimized everything about yourself i order to help others would u be a robot.
the eye for eye vs turn the other cheek how many can we get to agree on turning the other cheek ,the only ones left would be the wicked as they would murder all the ones who turned the other cheek and the outcome of that would finally be the world conqoured by the worst and wicked.
Life is chaos and danger. The beauty of it is in between that and learning through those challenges life presents. Enlightenment is simply that reminder to not take things so serious despite of realities life brings that you can’t change.
See that’s the issue with this sub. A lot of people on here are too connected to “logical” ideologies and outdated dogmas that go nowhere near the truth because they are tip toeing around social issues and factors that create ignorance in the world. If you speak that the world has a problem with understanding the bottom barrel of society and that’s why people act a certain way. You guys will blame the fact that humans are “inherently evil” and that it’s their fault for not having an exquisite set of morals like you.
Except all you guys do is bag on these guys to get a job and maybe things will change or say that his longing to disconnect from this physical reality is just mental illness and that he needs to worry about his physical reality 100% and he’ll be happy. Spoken like real privileged Americans on Reddit.
That’s why people can’t understand homeless people. Some people have literally tried EVERYTHING to change their physical reality and all they have is inner happiness and individual purpose. As a person who’s been there and sheer luck and circumstance has led me to be able to make an analysis of life through this bettered position. I really understand a lot of the people in the world and I hate to see people act like people just have lack of hope or character.
People never speak about the balance of individual purpose and general purpose. Without yourself how can you be of service to others ? And without others what good is your service ? See what the issues is here ? Everybody swears just sitting around and being indifferent about everything is being “zen” “enlightened” but really you’re a life less zombie not radiating real genuine human warmth and energy.
Everything I see here is people worrying about safety and their spiritual direction usually revolves around changing their physical reality. So they can’t care about the same things as those looking for enlightenment. They care too much about being outcasted by society, they care about their voice being nullified because they’ll seem mentally “unfit”.
To those that have transcended. Don’t worry. You’re not crazy. Some of us that have good positions out in society, can articulate the movement in their simpleton language. I get you. Don’t be discouraged.
It is not egotistical to be aware of societies ignorance being used against your spirituality. People choose a personality archetype that fits societal success and run with it. We do not have to pretend.
A very broad question I know, but a genuine one, I promise. I have seen so many different things, written by so many different people. I’m still on my journey. I never really know what to write and half the time it comes out in a way I don’t intend it to. I guess I’m just wondering how you’re feeling, what you practice and what you believe and why? No judgment. Just genuine curiosity.
Attaining to Samadhi or Samatva and becoming a Jnani or wise person is the ultimate goal of life.
“A jnani is a stoic at heart though he appears many different versions to many around him.” - Ramana Maharshi
In Zen there is the expression joe enmyo, meaning that samadhi invariably gives rise to prajna (wisdom) and prajna is always rooted in samadhi, and that the two act in perfect clarity as one integral whole. “
“Once the knowledge afforded through the experience of savikalpa-samadhi has been assimilated — then one is able to recognize and appreciate the underlying nirvikalpa nature of Awareness that is one’s true identity, even while engaged in one’s daily activities. This stage is called sahaja-samadhi or nirvikalpa-samadhi. Otherwise called a jnani or wise-person.”
“Turiya is the goal of life” - quote taken from an article on upanishads. “Samadhi is the goal of life.“ - quote taken from an article on samadhi.
Samatva, or absolute freedom from emotions, has been set as one of the prime essentials for the health of the nerves and brain.” - Relax With Yoga, by Arthur Liebers, [1960].
“He is completely freed from all emotions: Joy, envy, fear & anxiety cause inward agitations in men. Ever peaceful with himself & the world, the devotee is unaffected by these emotions, & deals with them with equanimity. Such a devotee is dear to Me.” - Bhagawat Gita.
"You are verily very fortunate with your cold heartedness" - sage Vasishta to the immortal sage Bushundi. You can see Bushundi's cold heartedness is mentioned.
When one attains to Turiya and Kaivalya, they transcend the mind, and consciousness shines through. "Samadhi is the silence of the mind." "Turiya is the goal of life." "The mind veils consciousness, our deepest and purest being." "When mind is still what is it that shines through ?" "Emotions come from the mind." - These quotes are taken from various articles regarding enlightenment and samadhi.
"When mind is still what is it that shines through ?" Brahman - Purusha/Prakriti - Consciousness - Mind - Space - Air - Fire - Water - Earth. - The Mahabharata. As given in the above equation from Mahabharata when Mind is still consciousness shines through.
"Samadhi is the silence of the mind." Chapter XC - Way to obtain the philosopher's stone of Yoga Vasishta mentions it as a metaphor for Samadhi or silence of the mind.
Think of an ocean that has waves, and if a sparrow went over it, you couldn’t see the reflection of the bird; however, if the ocean was calm and still, you could see everything perfectly.
"Meditation is a process to pierce the veil of mind into the super-conscious state (samadhi)" - from the book, The Warrior Sage: Life as Spirit.
Mind is merely a reflection of Consciousness. When the reflection is destroyed, Consciousness shines through in all its glory through the jnani when the mind is absent.
The goal of meditation is to still the mind or empty the mind, and bring it to a zero-thought state or samadhi even for a split second. An empty mind is a full mind, for it contains all things but is never limited by them. When split-second samadhi occurs, in that moment there is no thought, but only an absolutely pure and heightened consciousness. Although this experience may be brief, it is timeless and infinite.
“As a lamp situated in a windless place, never waivers, so the Yogi, who disciplines the mind, never waivers. When all thoughts, come to an end, being blocked by the practice of yoga, one finds satisfaction seeing the Self in the self by the Self. Transcending the reach of the senses, the yogi experiences, unbounded happiness, grasped through spiritual perception. Being so fixed one never deviates from the truth.” ~Bhagavad Gita
The mind wanders in the ten directions. Your body is Dasharatha, the ten chariots, which include the five organs of senses and the five organs of action. These take the mind into ten different directions.
Our busy mind like a stack of hay is falling to the side as our awareness opens to its pure state. Consciousness is the diamond-eye functioning in all the worlds of the ten directions.
Rider and the elephant metaphor.
The elephant represents the Mind and the five senses (elephant has five limbs).
Having reduced this to a regular practice, may you bind this terrible elephant of mind so as to be untrammelled by pains and enable it to reach Mokṣa through discrimination. - Yoga Vasishta
A Rig Veda mantra praise Prachetas as the forces behind the sensory limbs of the mind. There are ten senses of knowledge and action. Pracetas are those which bring consciousness to the outside, through the development of the senses that are active as sensations. These senses are the five forces of mind, five different angles of reflection; their formation took place with the help of the Pracetas.
Hongzhi said,
"Empty and desireless, cold and thin, simple and genuine, this is how to strike down and fold up the remaining habits of many lives. When the stains from old habits are exhausted the original light appears, blazing through your skull, not admitting any other matters. Vast and spacious, like sky and water merging during autumn, like snow and moon having the same color, this field is without boundary, beyond direction, magnificently one entity without edge or seam. Further, when you turn within and drop off everything completely, realization occurs. Right at the time of entirely dropping off, deliberation and discussion are one thousand or ten thousand miles away. Still no principle is discernible, so what could there be to point to or explain? People with the bottom of the bucket fallen out immediately find total trust. So we are told simply to realize mutual response and explore mutual response, then turn around and enter the world. Roam and play in samadhi. Every detail clearly appears before you. Sound and form, echo and shadow, happen instantly without leaving traces."
- Foreword of the book Cultivating the Empty Field: The Silent Illumination of Zen Master Hongzhi
When enlightened, be enlightened. When not enlightened, attend to yourself.
Nothing matters
Nothing you say means anything
It's just a joke it means Nothing
Nothing matters
Nothing you say means anything
It's just a joke it means Nothing
I came to this conclusion after 7+ years of contemplation on how this happened, and how I could recreate this experience for others, since it fundamentally changed my reality and set me on a trajectory of embodying unity consciousness and achieving Enlightenment. I believe tasting divine love is a necessary precursor to genuine spiritual awakening because prior to this, all living things know conditional, biological love. While it's great, it's insignificant to this. Barely comparable.
LSD is a very unique compound. After contemplating exactly what it does experientially (science has defined that it targets serotonin receptors and blah blah blah, but what's more important is how it therapeutically affects humans) I found it grows any action into it's fullest potential in you. So that means biologically you must also be ready to experience this. Say for example, you suck at long boarding, so you focus on balance. Prior to taking LSD, you focus on your balance, and you only achieve mediocre balance. After taking LSD, just focusing on my balance made it superb and I was able to long board more freely and without fear.
The important part is not reaching involuntary ego death stage (which usually begins around 250 micrograms), but taking enough to have a real LSD experience (I was on a tab and a half, around 150 micrograms) and being in a good state of mind and a stable environment where you feel safe.
It's helps if you are already good at letting things go, but practice makes perfect so don't be discouraged if you don't get it right, right away. It takes time to get good at forgiveness, but this is not an instruction manual on how to forgive, just what it can lead to.
While peaking, imagine any person you have a relationship to. It helps if they recently wronged you emotionally through something they did or said. Now, we're going to try, in one single act, to let go of everything they did that hurt you and wronged you, until you see them through unhurt eyes, the first time you met them. Essentially, renewing your relationship with them.
Try to put yourself in their shoes and try to understand why they hurt you. Whether it was intentionally or unintentionally. Try to recreate how they felt in that moment where they said or did something to hurt or manipulate you. It helps if this is someone who you recently met or recently wronged you, as pain grows and becomes more complex the longer we hold onto it. As you are imagining their motivations for hurting you, imagine how you felt, and notice how constricting that feeling is. Genuinely desire to be free of the pain they caused you and wish them and yourself happiness and well being.
If successful, the LSD will expand this single act into infinity, and you will unconsciously forgive every person and everything that ever wronged you. Your heart will become free from letting go of all it's pain, and you'll experience pure divine love in it's entirety. This love is radically different, and it's an all encompassing experience. Your entire state of mind will change. Life will soften and become quiet, and everything will seem non threatening. Every pain and pleasure, whether yours or another's, you will become aware of as the borders between you and others disappear. This is conscious ego death, and makes the change permanent.
After the LSD wears off, you don't go back to hurting and feeling your old ways; your heart is open and all of the sudden, you become aware of all the pain you were shutting out in the first place. This is spiritual awakening, and you can choose to remain in ignorance of this pain (producing the life and experience you had before) or consciously work to heal this pain and make this love a permanent resident in your heart. The only source of wisdom to inform me on how to do so, and the only reliable source of healing I found was God.
For many, this is the beginning of a life long journey of spiritual healing and will take you to some crazy places. Remember though you may see many beautiful things along the path, none of them are the goal of completely healing your pain and achieving true spiritual liberation, unity consciousness.
It's a state beyond Enlightenment and anything that has been defined by others, because it is your pain and it is a path unique to you. Only you can know what you need to heal, and that begins with introspection and knowing yourself. The result is complete unity with the divine, and when you make it there, it makes all the pain you experienced and went through seem insignificant. Blessings.
Or at least, most posts from this are so toxic. I joined this sub a couple months ago and I've never interacted with it till now because of how toxic some people are here. Is this what "enlightenment" is about? Not respecting other people's experiences and truths? Having that "I'm more enlightened than you" attitude among yourselves? When you talk about enlightenment while being mean to each other, you look like cats trying to catch a laser, fighting over who catches it first. There's so much ego on it.
Imo my definition of enlightenment is not something like a goal at the end of a game; enlightenment is the purest state of being, and you can achieve it while meditating and synchronizing your mind, body, and soul with the universe, nature, and existence itself in a deep state of trance, peace, and fulfillment. I don’t think it’s necessary to overthink and overcomplicate things to understand what enlightenment is and how to "reach" it and fighting each other. I think is way more simple than we think. Feel free to disagree with this and share your opinión but in a respectful way, because honestly I don't really care if I'm wrong or not.
Take care!
When I stopped speaking to people from my past. All of a sudden I can sleep at night. All of a sudden my head hurt. There was this guy I spoke to up until June recently. He went ghost on me and left me on seen. During June I got accepted into my internship and finally found people I resonate with and an environment I'm comfortable in. My headaches are gone and my appetite came back. My school experience was so toxic and I was bullied. I cut these people out and the quality of my life got better. These people tries to act buddy buddy now to me now after treating me like shot. It's like night and day. Onc I graduated hs they flipped a switch and now they miss and love me. What's the deal?
Anyone else who's not a bot or a plant noticed that within the last 15 days the posts and username have shifted dramatically to faux wokeness and pseudo awareness and techniques?
Such a massive shift can only indicate interference from somewhere.
Inb4 bot and plant accts accuse me of paranoia, etc etc.
Looking for real enlightenment discussion from real users.
In a world where we all want/need validation for who we are being. I have come to the conclusion there is no way to latch on the external sources that have 'good intentions' most have been deceived by what we have been taught as a whole. I've seen some negative and positive post on various platforms, as well as indifference. I am currently in a neutral state of mind, balanced from the external sources of the projected world. This way of being has taught me we cannot avoid certain negative behaviors that are being displayed in society. Rather avoid them, see compassion for they are in pain without even knowing what they are projecting from pain. Fire must not be met with fire. Ice must not be be met with ice and so forth. I don't offer solution to this, but offer awareness on the subject as a experiencer of extreme negative forces, as I am learning positive and neutral states of beingness.
I didn't know that this would come pouring out of me in response to Choice-Button9697's comment on my comment. I feel like it might have value for some of you. If it doesn't have value for you, or if you are angry about me calling Sadhguru out as a charlatan, feel free to respond in any manner you wish. All that I ask in return is that if you become negative, or foolish, that you examine the reason why you responded in such a manner. If you come to realize that you became triggered, sinking into a subconscious state, I suggest that you meditate on that realization asking the question why. If the answer is that your guru didn't teach you how to clear out those triggers than I'd meditate on that as well. Ultimately though the is only one true guru.... The Universe it's self.
EverythingZen19- This is how charlatans speak as a part of their con. Vague declarations of nothing wrapped up like a wisdom burrito.
Choice-Button9697- You summed up this entire sub perfectly
EverythingZen19 - Mostly, but it doesn't have to be. It's titled "Enlightenment" a verb not "The Enlightened". It's known, to many souls in India, that there has been 2 divergent paths there for thousands of years. Those truly on a path of enlightenment know it to be a journey with no destination, just a continual stairway reaching ever higher. The path of the charlatans give the nothing burritos out like food expecting the other to be grateful, while teaching that enlightenment is a destination with a clear cut finish line. It works because of the narcissistic desires that the so called "Guru's" feed to those on this path.
Clear example between the two would be "Mooji" vs "Sadhguru". Mooji dresses plainly and teaches wisdom to those that seek it. Sadhguru wears thousand dollar sunglasses, only attends conferences that pay a lot, and tells the world that corrupt slave masters (World Economic Forum) are good and that we should help them. The difference is hard to see for those without discernment but very obvious once that discernment has grown. The good news is that once the litmus test has been found, Mooji real & Sadhguru fake, people can rapidly grow their discernment. All they have to do is re-examine the two through the lens of motive.
If you wanted to learn discernment but didn't know how here you go. Play "one of these things is not like the other" and apply those lessons in the other aspects of your life. If they do this they'll find out, really quickly, that discernment isn't as difficult as they thought it was.
Much love 💓
#Mooji #Sadhguru #discernment #charlat
In many wisdom traditions, there's a meaningful distinction between understanding "1" as a simple number for measurement and a deeper sense of unity that transcends anything we can quantify.
The Sefer Yetzirah asks, “Before One, what can be counted?”
This question invites us to let go of familiar ways of thinking and to open ourselves to a unity that defies any concept or mental framework we can create.
In conventional theology, God is often seen as a fixed and concrete being, perceived almost as a distant, solid presence.
An enlightened perspective, however, invites us into a non-dual understanding of sacred unity. Rather than understanding God as a separate, fixed presence, this view sees unity as something inseparable and beyond ordinary concepts of being and non-being. It encourages us to move beyond conventional mental fixed ideas, allowing us to experience unity not as a thing we possess but as an essence we are part of.
In New Age thought, unity is often expressed through the phrase “I am God,” “you are God,” or “we are all God.” While these statements may intend to affirm that everything is part of a divine Oneness, they can also confine the idea of unity to a rigid “God concept.” For some, these words inspire connection, while for others, they raise complex reactions or resistance.
I find it misleading to think or speak in this way and to rely on the concept of God, which is imbued with significant meaning within the collective consensus. Using “I am God” would, in effect, deny the existence of an all-encompassing planning intelligence that acts as Creator Spiritus and Mastermind behind creation. Notably, the word “God” in the Bible is typically described in Hebrew as Elohim, which, interestingly, is a plural term – a separate topic that we could contemplate further at another time. This exploration might also reveal how the conventional exoteric “church,” as it calls itself, is, in fact, a flawed institution that not only lacks the ability to truly read and understand these texts but also holds rigid, dogmatic thought structures. In truth, these are not their own texts, but rather the teachings of greater enlightened masters and prophets who embodied a revelatory nature in the planetary education of souls.
By defining unity in such “I am God terminologies” we risk losing its openness and mystery. We create mental boundaries around the idea of unity, trying to frame it with language and concepts that feel familiar. But unity is reduced to a fixed idea – where “God” is an entity we all embody in the same way – it becomes just another object of thought, rather than a doorway to a reality beyond words.
When we attempt to capture unity through familiar language and concepts, we unintentionally impose limits on something that resists limitations, particularly through language. In mystical traditions, Ain Soph is not simply a tangible entity but rather embodies the concept of infinite being—a boundless, transcendent reality that defies conventional labels. Unlike an object we seek to understand, Ain Soph represents a profound, limitless essence that resists all encapsulation. By letting go of mental labels and fixed ideas, we can approach this unity as a lived experience—one that remains mysterious, whole, and truly infinite, existing beyond the limits of human thought.
A non-dual approach encourages us to cultivate a faith that embraces the unknown, transcending ordinary categories to experience unity in its fullness. However, this approach still acknowledges Godhead as an intelligent Creator Spirit, ensuring that non-dualism does not lead to atheism or a pseudo-non-dualism that restricts our understanding. Instead, it preserves a reverence for the Creator Godhead and avoids reducing reality to a narrow focus on personal self-experience, allowing for a greater openness to the Divine – a place where unity remains intact, mysterious, and infinite.
Questions for Reflection:
How does defining “Divine unity” with specific concepts or words affect your perception of it?
Can we approach the Divine without relying on familiar mental categories? What practices might help us remain open to the mystery?
How can we speak of unity without trying to label or contain it, and what does it mean to simply point to an infinite, boundless oneness?
"Everything that is, that is That, anything that isn't, that is This, so obviously, everything is either This or That, and that is much better."
- I guess that's it?
"No, 'It', is something else.
That's leftovers from This and That."
Why is so much of this subreddit just people posting some bs and then more people posting bs to either attack or demean them? Yeah the post may be inherently ignorant but then yall come in and demean the person and point out whats wrong when yall dont know whats right, none of us fuckin do, thats the fuckin point. Stop being dicks please.