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All about the European League of Football (ELF) a professionalized American Football League in Europe.
News, Discussions and everything interesting about the ELF. For more information check out our Wiki!
All about the European League of Football (ELF) a professionalized American Football League in Europe.
News, Discussions and everything interesting about the ELF. For more information check out our Wiki!
Franchises:
Regular Season:
| North | Team | W-D |
|---|---|---|
| Hamb. Sea Devils xy! | 11-1 | |
| Berlin Thunder † | 7-5 | |
| Wroclaw Panthers † | 5-7 | |
| Leipzig Kings † | 4-8 | |
| Central | ||
| Vienna Vikings xy! | 10-2 | |
| Raiders Tirol x | 8-4 | |
| Frankfurt Galaxy † | 8-4 | |
| Stuttgart Surge † | 0-12 | |
| South | ||
| Barcelona Dragons xy | 8-4 | |
| Rhein Fire † | 7-5 | |
| Cologne Centurions † | 3-9 | |
| Istanbul Rams † | 1-11 |
x = Clinched playoff berth
y = Clinched division title
† = Eliminated from playoffs
! = Clinched homefield advantage
Championship Game:
| Visitor | Home | Score |
|---|---|---|
| Vikings | Sea Devils | 27:15 |
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Tickets update and forecasts for HD/CC/RF/MR/FG/SS (May 3, 2024) + request for Austrian help
The first games are only three weeks away, so I will switch into a weekly update mode. Each week I will post the status of some of the games.
As some of you Austrian guys asked me if I can add the Vikings and Raiders, I can do it, but need your help: If someone gives me the capacity of the available sectors in the stadiums, I will track at least some of the Austrian games too, maybe also with forecasts. Additional informations are appreciated as well, for example the status of the last four rows in the North stand of Generali Arena (empty or occupied by contingents?). Just contact me here or via PM for additional informations.
Unfortunately I have to flatten my forecast numbers in almost every game this week. I`ve expected higher sales at this point but they honestly didn`t happen. As usual, orange cells are downgrades, green cells are upgrades in the numbers. I`ve cut the number of the Bremen game from 17k to 15k. At least the first Hannover game against Frankfurt seems to slowly increase at this time.
The Season opener (RF@CC) should still be a 5-digit-game, estimated now 10k. The other three Cologne games in Aachen look horrible. In these games I have an average of one (!) sold ticket per day so the interest in these games seem to be almost zero in the pre-sales. The sudden jump that you see in the curves is due to booking of contingents. I thought there would be a cooperation between Alemannia Aachen and the Centurions but I can`t see that at all in the numbers.
The Fire games will take place late in the season so there is enough time for a significant increase in the sales. But honestly I`m currently not so convinced of my former estimations that`s why I cut each of the game forecasts by 1k.
Good thing is the sales rate increase for RF@FG. I haven`t really figured out where it comes from, but hopefully it continues during the next week.
Nuremberg sales have almost come to a complete standstill at this point. I`ve cut my estimation from 17k to 15k.
Sinsheim is at the slowest sales rate since the start. Therefore I`ve cut my forecast to 12k.
No hype in Reutlingen at the moment. Maybe numbers increase after the start of the season.
17:15 UTC
Free Talk Friday!
Welcome to our Free Talk Friday Thread where you can talk about whatever you'd like!
Want to talk about life? Got something cool you want to show the community? Share pictures of your cat? This is the right place for it! You can of course still talk about Football & everything that might not justify its own thread :)
We will not enforce rule 4 in this thread so you can also talk about politics - just keep it civil!
This thread is posted every week on Friday.
07:00 UTC
Five unpopular opinions for 2024 season
1.) Cologne finish ahead of Madrid and Hamburg.
2.) Prague have one close game against Vienna.
3.) Hamburg lose ten games.
4.) Rhein lose two games in the regular season.
5.) Milano win five games.
Which one is the most likely/unlikely in your eyes?
11:04 UTC
Predict the rankings per conference!
I made 3 tier lists, one for each conference. Place 1 team on each tier and show what your predictions are for the new season.
Central: Create a ELF Central Conference 2024 Tier List
Western: Create a ELF Western Conference 2024 Tier List
Eastern: Create a ELF Eastern Conference 2024 Tier List
Here is my prediction:
(Western, Central, Eastern from left to right)
09:46 UTC
Panini 2024
They still had an advertising space on the FIBO kickoff event so they will probably launch a product again this season.
Has anyone heard details about it? Will there be a sticker album? Release dates?
13:10 UTC
Will "Foot Bowl Hendrik" in 2024 be Europe`s best ELF analyst again?
Hendrik seems to be the oracle of the ELF as he predicted all three previous ELF champions (Galaxy, Vikings, Fire).
This year he predicts Rhein Fire becoming the ELF champion again. This would be boring, hopefully he won`t be right again.
In order to find out who is the best analyst I post the published "powerrankings" of the latest Foot Bowl stream. At the end of the season I will evaluate it by calculating the deviations. The actual ranks will be based on the W-L record and playoff results.
These are the predictions I recorded during the stream:
11:46 UTC
Fabian Weitz & Lucky Ogbevoen drafted by the Winnipeg Blue Bombers
Both LBs.
Both former Centurions.
Weitz 8th overall (1st round, 2023: Centurions, signed by Rhein Fire for the 2024 season)
Ogbevoen 17th overall (2nd round, 2023: Raiders Tirol, signed by Cologne Centurions for the 2024 season )
Poor Centurions. Get robbed by Rhein Fire for 2 years and now by Winnipeg as well. :D
15:31 UTC
State of the ELFpedia / Call to arms!
Dear Community,
Every few months I would like to give you an overview of what has happened in the ELFpedia, what is new and not forget to encourage you to participate in this project.
What's new
- We now have the option of filtering large tables. This function is used, for example, in the offseason tracker and in QB stats or WR stats. (More stats are wip, coming soon).
Questions
Can you use this function properly without an explanation or would you like to have a short help video? For example, I once created one for the offseason tracker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyvK25EEfeM
- The wiki, all extensions, the database and PHP have been updated to the latest versions.
- Massive spam protection measures have been implemented. You can still edit without an account, but you have to answer a short question as spam protection. This does not apply if you use an account, because you have confirmed your e-mail address.
- Schedule 2024 is completely available. I am currently working on adding an extra column for tickets.
- DPL3 available. With DPL it is possible to summarize information that is already available in the wiki in tables - fully automatically.
Example where I have used DPL3: https://elfpedia.eu/Players_outside_their_own_country
Note
This is a complex feature that I am not yet 100% familiar with. If someone already has a lot of experience with it, please let me know!
General information
I can see that the number of requests in the ELFpedia is steadily increasing, but the number of people contributing content is stagnating. Conversely, this means that many things take a long time before I can finish putting them on the wiki on my own.
However, anyone who is interested can help us out. You also don't need to be afraid of destroying something, this is only temporary in a wiki and can easily be fixed again.
So don't be afraid!
If you have your own project, for example, or are planning one: Come to me and we can see how we can implement it together in the wiki.
Any suggestions or questions?
Do you have any general suggestions as to what content is still missing? Or questions about how something works?
Feel free to write them here in the post, I'll be happy to help!
Looking for
I am also currently looking for a graphic designer who would like to do something for us, if you are interested, please contact me!
CSS / Javascript professionals are also always welcome :)
06:47 UTC
Community project 2024 season
The target of the league is to have 750.000+ spectators in the stadium over the course of the season.
For this reason I would like to track the official numbers of spectator for each game of the season together with you.
I would like to use the following layout for weekly updates.
Please let me know what you think of it.
If you have any further Ideas please let me know.
PS: The hype is already there. Cannot wait for the season to start.
14:00 UTC
How is the ELF metagame evolving?
I have just written an article about how the ELF metagame has evolved since year one when comes to A-imports. I would like to know what you think in this matter, hear your opinions in this subject.
I leave the link to the article below as a reference. Looking forward to your opinions.
Cheers
LINK TO ARTICLE
https://www.firstdownmag.com/post/how-is-the-elf-meta-evolving-a-quick-look
13:30 UTC
Free Talk Friday!
Welcome to our Free Talk Friday Thread where you can talk about whatever you'd like!
Want to talk about life? Got something cool you want to show the community? Share pictures of your cat? This is the right place for it! You can of course still talk about Football & everything that might not justify its own thread :)
We will not enforce rule 4 in this thread so you can also talk about politics - just keep it civil!
This thread is posted every week on Friday.
07:00 UTC
Is there a site or way to track signings and last year's stats?
Just in the title really, I see them sporadically pop up on social media but can't find an honest and true list of these things.
Regarding stats, there are a few sites that have them but not to the degree the ELF has their 2022 stats.
Any help on the topic would be appreciated.
18:26 UTC
NFL ACADEMY is expanding in Asia/pacific
14:26 UTC
How can the production quality be improved?
I was thinking about how the production could be improved, preferably without adding high costs. One thing that came to mind was to include drone shots during the game. For example at the evening games in Madrid or during daytime in Tirol showing the mountain range. I think that would also add up to the characteristics of the teams as the landscape ist something that makes Tirol unique but you don’t really notice it with the normal cameras at the stadium. Other things I’d love to see but are probably to expansive at the moment are onfield reporters at every game, commentators in the stadium, an expert team who analyze and talk about the games in the elfzone conference and something to catch the atmosphere of the fans before the games like doing fan interviews during the power parties and stuff. What are your ideas?
10:26 UTC
Madrid Bravos announce their stadium
Bravos will play in Vallehermoso Stadium, it's official.
Good choice imo. Never been inside but the stadium is in the heart of the city, near La Castellana and less than 20 minutes walking from some big train/subway stations like Cuatro Caminos, Moncloa and even Nuevos Ministerios. Great location and looks decent inside.
The stadium can fit 10k people.
09:18 UTC
BEN HOLMES: Adversity, Loss, Leadership, Fatherhood, Vienna Vikings, ELF
Nick Alfieri did a great interview with the new QB of the Vienna Vikings Ben Holmes.
It's not a bog-standard interview, but really interesting!
BEN HOLMES: Adversity, Loss, Leadership, Fatherhood, Vienna Vikings, ELF || IMPORTED (youtube.com)
06:12 UTC
Madrid Bravos and Antoine Griezmann making content
Bravos just posted this on Instagram.
Ruben Ibeas (Grizi's NFL podcast co-host) also published something about Deebo and Grizi from today, I guess teasing a future podcast.
18:14 UTC
Helvetic Mercenaries homegames
The Helvetic Mercs will play their homegames in Stadion Brühl (capacity 12,500) & Sportzentrum Kleinfeld (capacity 3,500).
Right staring point is the old stadium from last season
Stadion Brühl is the left.
Sportzentrum Kleinfeld is the southern point.
So only 1 game (1st vs Dragons) to be played in the bigger stadium.
All others will be held in the smaller one.
16:14 UTC
Rookie Wednesday! (Your questions about the ELF / American Football)
Welcome to Rookie Wednesday! Here you can ask any question about the European League of Football or just American Football in general.
You are new to the ELF and have some questions about the league? You are new to American Football and have some questions about how it's played? Feel free to ask anything you want!
There are no dumb or "wrong" questions!
This thread will be posted every 2 weeks on a Wednesday!
06:00 UTC
ELF Zone with explanation
ELF Zone: The new highlight of this season https://europeanleague.football/news/elf-zone-the-new-highlight-of-this-season-1795
16:55 UTC
The Feedback Thread!
You can leave your feedback for the league - criticism, praise, whatever you like - in this thread!
It's important that you keep the following in mind:
- The way you voice your criticism should not be emotionally loaded and should definitely not be aggressive. Comments that are worded like that will removed.
- Voice your criticism decent, factual and informative - if you point out what you don't like also add the reason. That way you give the league the chance to work with your feedback.
This thread will be posted in a 2 week rythm.
07:00 UTC
New ELF Shop 2024 online
The new collection is now online.
The products look pretty good.
Note that last year's partnership with cap brand STENSON has not been renewed, and no GILKY for the moment as last year. And no KPRO merchandising, unfortunately.
13:13 UTC
"It's About That Time" - The Pre-Season Show
12:15 UTC
Let's have a look into domestic leagues
The CEFL started last weekend so I decided to have a look in some domestic leagues:
We start with:
CEFL:
Wild Card Round:
Stockholm Mean Machines 42-14 Manchester Titans
Graz Giants 21-6 Kragujevac Wild Boars (edited thx to mic161)
Calanda Broncos 33-10 Copenhagen Towers (And some tell me they want an elf team from denmark??)
Guelfi Firenze 37-27 Beograd Vukovi
The Quarter Finals will be on 11th may 2024 with the following matchups:
Stockholm Mean Machines @ La Courneuve Flash
Granz Giants @ Thonon Black Panthers
Calanda Broncos @ Parma Panthers
Guelfi Firenze @ Danube Dragons
Austria:
Standings:
Vienna Vikings AFL 4-0
Graz Giants 4-0
Danube Dragons 2-1
Prague Black Panthers 2-2
Raiders Tirol AFL 1-3
Rangers Mödling 1-3
Salzburg Ducks 0-2
Telfs Patrios 0-3
France:
We only had one game in the french league last weekend:
Marseille Blue Stars 14-14 Grizzlys Catalans
Conference A:
La Courneuve Flash 6-1
Thonon Black Panthers 4-1-2
Asnieres Molosses 4-2-1
Rouen Leopards 3-2-1
Saint-Ouen Cougars 3-4
Tours Pionniers (dropped out of league) 0-10
Conference B:
Marseille Blue Stars 5-0-1
Grizzlys Catalans 4-1-1
Nice Dauphins 2-3
Toulouse Ours 2-4
Cannes Iron Mask 2-4
Aix-en-Provence Argonautes 1-4
Italy:
Anonca Dolphins 49-0 Bologne Warriors
Legnano Frogs 22-26 Varese Skorpions
Standings:
Ancona Dolphins 5-0
Varese Skorpions 5-0
Firenze Guelfi 4-1
Parma Panthers 2-2
Legnano Frogs 2-3
Torino Giaguari 2-3
Milano Rhinos 2-4
Lazio Marines (ex Ducks) 1-4
Bologna Warriors 0-6
Spain:
Spain already played their SEMI FINAL so the FINAL will be on 5th MAY! Expect a lot of players might join the Dragons and the Bravos after the season is over.
Semi Finals:
Badalona Dracs 15-23 Las Rozas Black Demons
Madrid Osos Rivas 36-33 L 'Hospitalet Pioners
Final on 5th may:
Madrid Osos Rivas vs Las Rozas Black Demons -> both cooperate with the Bravos as far as I know.
BNL:
Amsterdam Crusaders 64-0 Kasteel Nitros
Brussels Tigers 6-35 Limburg Shotguns
Brussels Black Angels 21-24 Rotterdam Trojans
Standings:
Amsterdam Crusaders 5-0
Rotterdam Trojans 4-1
Brussels Black Angels 3-2
Limburg Shotguns 2-3
Brussels Tigers 1-4
Kasteel Nitros 0-5
Sweden:
Interestingly the norwegian team, the Oslo Vikings will play in the swedish league this season. There are rumors that the Superserien will become a scandinavian league by adding more teams from norway and even denmark in the future.
Also, the AIK Stockholm is part of the AIK Solna soccer club and has its backing from the club. They got promoted after 2023
AIK Stockholm 20-21 Kristianstad Predators
Limhamn Griffins 31-23 Örebro Black Knights
Tyresö Royal Crowns 21-24 Carlstad Crusaders
Standings:
Stockholm Mean Machines 4-0
Carlstad Crusaders 4-0
Tyresö Royal Crowns 2-2
Limhamn Griffins 2-2
Kristianstad Predators 2-2
Örebro Black Knights 2-4
AIK Stockholm 0-2
Oslo Vikings 0-4
Poland:
No games last weekend
Standings:
Krakow Kings 2-0
Silesia Rebels 2-0
Warsaw Eagles 1-1
Warsaw Mets 1-1
Katy Wroclawskie Jaguars 0-2
Bialystok Lowlanders 0-2
If you want me to add some more leagues next time, just tell me. Thanks for reading!
08:27 UTC
ELF Zone
Today I received the ELF newsletter and it is mentioned that the gamepass will get a new feature called ELF Zone. When I click on it I just get forwarded to the gamepass site without any further info. Does anybody know more about this? Will it be like NFL Redzone feature? That would surely be awesome, ideally with host but even without if it always shows you the game where the action is.
16:54 UTC
Tickets update and forecasts for selected German games (Apr 19, 2024)
New: I`ve added colours in the forecast cells. Green means that the number has increased compared to last update. Orange: Number has decreased. No colour = Stable or new number.
Sea Devils: No much change here for the Hamburg home games in Bremen and Hannover. I`m getting slightly concerned about Bremen because the curve flattens now significantly. So I reduced my forecast number from 18 to 17k for the moment.
The sales rates have been very stable for each of these three highlight games. Still the PreZero Arena seems to attract a lot more people than Bieberer Berg... (but we have to keep in mind that Galaxy could sell a lot more standing room tickets than I would expect. As you all know I can not log them)
Rhein Fire: No unexpected change here.
Edit: The German newspaper "Rheinische Post" (partner of Rhein Fire) mentioned my last update from this subreddit when they published an article about the early progress in Rhein Fire sales and a very likely new sales record for the new season:
To be honest: I don`t know what happened at RF@CC. My log today has shown fewer sales than last week. Two possible reasons: They opened a new sector (I haven`t spoted one) or they changed seats to available that have been marked as occupied before, for example contingents that haven`t been fully used. If anyone has a hint let me know. Third reason would be that I made a mistake when collecting the data (will check that next time).
Cologne has also announced 7,5k sold tickets this week. This also doesn`t really match with my logged actuals. Could be that they gave tickets to people behind the field goals. But it doesn`t look like it so I think this was just a number for public relation reasons and my number is the correct one.
Notable: There is a signifcant increase in the sales for the other three Aachen games. Again hard to say what`s the reason for it. Could be advertising. That is why I have increased my forecasts for the third and fourth game in Aachen.
I will post my next update again in about two weeks. Afterwards I maybe switch to weekly because then we should finally see more and more steep curves. And I know everybody here loves steep curves ;)
19:33 UTC