I'm doing my 7th or 8th rewatch of the whole series.
I am on episode 11 (of 13) of the last season.
I just turned it off and I don't know that I want to turn it on again.

And, reflecting, I don't believe I've ever watched the final episode.
Because, if I did, that would mean that the whole thing is over.
Unwatched -- it means that it still exists, it is still going on.
Plus I find Odin Reichenbach a formidable enemy and am afraid about what might happen.

!I *do* know what happens to Morland and it makes me sad.!<

Anyone else have this crazy behavior of not watching the final episode of a beloved series?
(I did the same for Game of Thrones, until very recently -- and I wish I hadn't watched it)

Though Jeremy Brett version is generally considered to be the best take on Sherlock Holmes, the last two seasons had some pretty big ups and downs, due to both worse writing quality and, sadly, limitations posed upon Jeremy Brett's failing health. The Last Vampyre is generally considered to be the worst episode, though The Eligible Bachelor and The Mazarin Stone were worse IMO.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=i5WBBWDWCeM&pp=ygUMbGFzdCB2YW1weXJl

The Last Vampyre was an adaptation of "The Adventure of the Sussex Vampire*, albeit a very loose one. There really isn't a clear explanation for anything at the end, and the shortest and most rational explanation, provided by one of the YouTube commenters, is that "Southern American hallucinogens made them all crazy".

Now, Elementary already did a pretty loose adaptation of The Adventure of the Sussex Vampire with 2x4 The Poison Pen. But if a similar plot to Jeremy Brett's version of the story was instead moved to Elementary (Sherlock and Joan go to a small town in upstate New York to investigate mysterious deaths connected to a stranger rumored to be a vampire), would it have been more forgivable due to Elementary's campy nature and its many differences to the source material?

And happy Halloween, everyone!

I know it's a stretch. There were plenty of original ACD stories that they never got to adapting, so they should have probably focused on that. But I still think it's an interesting idea, especially considering that the character of Dupin inspired Sir Arthur Conan Doyle to create Sherlock Holmes. It could have been a Halloween-themed episode.

Like in the original story, a woman named Marie Roget goes missing (this time around Halloween), her body is later found in a river (Hudson instead of Seine), and it turns out she had been strangled to death. In the end, Sherlock and Joan arrive to the same conclusion like in the story: that the killer owned a boat, and is probably a sailor. But there is also an additional clue or clues that actually lead them to the killer (maybe some suspect they had encountered prior owned a boat), and the episode ends with them confronting him by the docks. Maybe the killer tries to talk his way out of it, but Sherlock or Joan notices a missing rope or drag marks on the boat floor or something and points it out, and the killer just stares blankly at them. The next and final scene is Sherlock and Joan watching old horror movies on a rooftop on Halloween night. We don't see the confession or the arrest, but we know they got him.

And happy Halloween! I wish you the best.

Anyone have any luck finding someplace that I can buy the tshirts Holmes wears throughout the series? I’m already good with the “I’m Not Lucky I’m Good” shirt, but I’m having a time finding any others.

Currently doing my annual rewatch and I'm finding myself skipping the same episodes I always do — a lot of the Oscar stuff I skip. Does anyone else have episodes they always skip?

Doing my 7th or 8th re-watch and I am in season 6 where Sherlock is experiencing PCS.
I am in awe of Jonny Lee Miller's acting, especially his physical acting.
Even when he is just sitting or walking to the elevator in the precinct, he looks like he has a bad headache.
He is constantly squinting and holding his shoulders up to protect his head.
The way he holds his body makes me feel his pain.
And this gets more and more pronounced over the course of several episodes.
It was gut-wrenching to watch.
And a really powerful example of a master at his craft.
I think he is under-recognized for this achievement.
I love this show!

Edit: Have not finished all his episodes, based on the episode I just started….mistakes were made. Thank you everyone who gave me the benefit of the doubt! 🙈

In his first appearance, Sherlock describes his detective abilities as 'utterly adequate' and that of the detectives at Scotland Yard willing to work with him he was 'the best of a bad bunch'.

but later, Watson reprimands Lestrade for believing he was useless without Sherlock and reminded him that Sherlock wouldn't have picked him if he thought that he didn't have talent. He's also shown to be able to do the work rather well when he focuses, and he is not without insight that other's at Scotland Yard missed.

Was Watson just lying to make him feel better? Or was Sherlock playing down his abilities when first describing him to Watson cause they left on rocky terms?

Elementary has always had characters that came from non-English speaking countries and/or had foreign mother tongues, not to mention Sherlock is meant to be a polyglot. Might be a weird question but has anyone (perhaps people doing a rewatch) counted all the languages? Definitely Spanish, Chinese and Russian, but I seem to have forgotten the rest.

I was also wondering, in case there are any native speakers of languages in the show on this sub, how would you characterize the linguistic authenticity? My mother tongue is Russian and I always note that the actors cast as Russian seem to actually be native speakers, unlike practically any other American production. Sherlock’s Russian, on the other hand, is barely intelligible, which is fine ofc, JLM can’t be expected to actually be fluent in multiple languages. Is the same true for the other foreign languages in the show?

Perhaps her style changes in later seasons (I'm only on season 1), but so far I've been liking Lucy Liu's subtle, low-key and muted acting style. It reminds me of Gillian Anderson's performance in "The X-Files", and is IMO much more naturalistic and realistic when compared to a lot of contemporary performances, which tend to be drenched in irony and showy humour.

Incidentally, this show is far better than the BBC's "Sherlock". I'm surprised it doesn't have a better reputation, because it seems (based on the first season) to be one of the best procedurals of its kind. Reminds me of "The Good Wife" (another CBS semi-procedural), which was sort of dismissed by some because it wasn't on a "prestige" network.

Doing a rewatch of the entire series and I had forgotten how much I HATE that whole storyline.
Especially the episode when we are first introduced to Lynn Wen.
The character is so awful. Making herself home in their brownstone, going through Joan's closet?!
How would Joan ever stand for being spoken to in that way?

In every single rewatch of the series, I am jarred out of my nice Elementary happy place, winding up in a place of nails-on-chalkboard. The writing and storytelling just seems off to me.

I don’t get many texts so it isn’t annoying.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g9119l64qo

From S3x13 - Hemlock, when they visit the Dorchester Reid law firm

worn on Season 2 Episode 6 "An Unnatural Arrangement".

I remember it satirizing the US government hiding the truth about a specific massacre towards Indian natives. But I can't remember what that event is called and which episode it is from.

I INDEED SEARCHED that event on Google and got nothing, but got it at another encyclopaedia

With our beloved JLM and Benedict Comberbatch opposite each other in this 2011 Frankenstein production coming back into theaters for a run, figured I'd post it to encourage you all to go see it in theaters as it's pretty awesome.

Feel free to delete if against the rules

Frankenstein returns to international cinemas to mark the 200th anniversary of Mary Shelley’s most famous novel. Captured live in 2011 from the National Theatre stage in London, this thrilling, sold-out production became an international sensation, experienced by almost half a million people in cinemas around the world. Directed by Academy Award®-winner Danny Boyle (Trainspotting, Slumdog Millionaire), Frankenstein features Benedict Cumberbatch (Hamlet, BBC’s Sherlock) and Jonny Lee Miller (Elementary, Trainspotting). Childlike in his innocence but grotesque in form, Frankenstein’s bewildered creature is cast out into a hostile universe by his horror-struck maker. Meeting with cruelty wherever he goes, the increasingly desperate and vengeful Creature determines to track down his creator and strike a terrifying deal. Scientific responsibility, parental neglect, cognitive development and the nature of good and evil, are embedded within this thrilling and deeply disturbing classic tale. 

Having a rewatch and in S3x01, Sherlock is telling Joan why he left, saying that out of fear he ran away from her, the brownstone and the drugs he kept there.

But in S3x12 in a flashback to his time in London we see that he brought the drugs he had stashed in the brownstone.

So was he lying to Joan to save face or was it a later change by the writers for dramatic reasons?

Made this while the show was still on air. He is easily my favorite modern interpretation of the character; I think dude nailed it.

Hi all,

Your friendly neighborhood moderator here. Keeping an eye on people, things, activities and whatnot.

CBS's new show Watson by some of the team behind Elementary is coming, and it seems as though Elementary's social media is becoming Watson's. Comments from the creators about how this will be a new addition to the Holmes universe seem easy to confuse; as their marketing is muddying things a little; but charitably the line is that it's a new Sherlock Holmes-universe show from the makers of Elementary, not a continuation. I figured I should lay that out first for anyone who comes here new.

Let's lay down how we're going to handle things-

• We are not a Watson sub. We will be discussing it, and likely have discussion posts again. We are after all a sherlock holmes adjacent subreddit and this is by the same creators. Just don't expect us to change the colors.
• This will be a completely dedicated place to continue discussing Elementary. All Elementary related takes will continue to be welcome.
• The spoiler rule as it applies to Watson will apply, as on the very broad and very slight chance that the creators cave and somehow crossover even the slightest bit, I'd like to give them that slack to do so without spoiling the entire show. For a refresher, that means that if it is part of Watson's season or Elementary's last season/the show as a whole "AND" Watson, contain it with a spoiler tag.
• The meta rule definitely applies here. Any discussion about how we handle Watson is appreciated, but please keep it confined to this thread and messages UNLESS something changes wildly. We will revisit it at that time.
• I do NOT want to make a specific rule regarding Watson, so let me make my intentions clear- this will be a new show and the show will likely be different. Respectful discussion is encouraged. Well articulated comparisons are expected. I expect some backlash to the show because we are an Elementary subreddit, and this is not Elementary. It will however get a sticky discussion post. If the show is good, then there's not a lot of backlash and we discuss it like anything else. If it's bad, then regular discussion of why it's bad is okay and eventually the show ends and we move on from discussing it. If I start to see multiple threads and same-y comments about the show from the same people or some kind of trend/harping about it, then we've gone slightly off the rails and I have to make a rule.
• Which is to say that during the season of Watson, we're going to charitably extend the respect rule to the creators as a guideline. It is not an official rule, but while we it is airing or within the spoiler time frame, keeping things respectful will prevent a rule from needing to be made.
• Finally, I will be reaching out to the Watson subreddits to see if they want to open up their currently closed subreddits to us and I'll include anyone I hear back from in the side bar.

Any other thoughts or feedback is appreciated.

I'm rewatching and just got into season 3, where Joan moved into an apartment. It looks nice enough, but I've always hated it. Maybe it's the lighting, the kitchen island and table all placed at an angle, lack of personal effects, I don't know. But the place always struck me as very sterile and unappealing, despite the huge windows and great size for a NYC pad. Does anyone else feel this way about it?

It's always makes me laugh when Sherlock knows nothing about pop culture. And to this above question Joan answers "Think of your dad but he's a duck"

Odd request, I'm hoping to find some books which have just as good partnership in as Sherlock& Joan. I've tried so many mystery writers over the years but yet to find one I really enjoy. Goes without saying, I've read all Sherlock Holmes stories too but looking for something different. Going away soon and be a lot of travelling so need good book get me through. Any book recommendations would be amazing thank you.

Rewatching for the 5th or 7th or 10th time.
The quagga episode -- stolen pregnant zebras.
And Bell and Holmes are walking and talking in the middle of a park/zoo -- with the snow coming down.
Straight down and also sideways with some wind.
It lands on Bell's eyelashes and is builds up on Holmes hat.
There are people going about their business in the background, wrapped up in scarves and coats.

I love how it is real.
Fake snow looks like fake snow.
And this was real.

I don't know any other show that has filmed outside in the snow like this.
Love it!

Because of an autocorrect, I texted my friend that I was watching Johnny Lee Muppets. He will forever be Johnny Lee Muppets to me.