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Welcome to r/degoogle! Where you can find all the resources you need to expel Google from your life.

Recommended alternatives for all the Google products, software and services

NOTE: We're trying to recommend you alternatives which are FOSS (or mostly so) and privacy-respecting. This is by no means an exhaustive list of alternatives, if you're looking for one, then check out our community-sourced wiki page (if you'd like to become an approved wiki contributor for that page - contact us).

Notable

'Google Search' alternatives:

  • YaCy (to use it, you need to install the app)
  • Mojeek
  • Qwant
  • Ecosia
  • 'YouTube' alternatives:

  • MediaGoblin. Find an instance here, or use any of these:
  • 'Gmail' alternatives:

    (E-mail providers which don't offer at least 1 free of charge plan weren't listed)

    'Google Chrome' alternatives:

    (We don't recommend any Chromium-based browsers and browsers that use the Blink browser engine)

    'Google Maps' alternatives:

    'Google Earth' alternatives:

    'Chromebook' alternatives:

    'Chrome OS' alternatives:

  • BSD. Find a BSD OS here, or use any of these:

  • 'Android', 'Google Pixel' and 'Google Nexus' alternatives:

  • Dumbphones (feature phones). There are a lot of them, some of the most notorious ones are:

  • FOSS-oriented Smartphones:

  • Regular Smartphones on which you can install a privacy-respecting OS:

  • 'Google Analytics' alternatives

    The Mod Team has not vetted any of the above services, these are only recommendations based on user feedback. It is recommended you properly and thoroughly research any product or service you are interested in using.

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    I need weather with frog! Is there an app that shows weather from google without using the google app?

    Hi! I love the weather with this frog! Every morning i wake up and look at the forecast and see these cute drawings and i love it! But if you turn off the google app, the weather stops showing. In fact, this is one of the reasons why i still haven't upgraded my smartphone to lineage os. Can you tell me if there is a way to use the weather with the frog?

    1 Comment
    2024/11/02
    05:04 UTC

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    Firefox

    Just wanted to point out that Firefox is pretty much Google.

    4 Comments
    2024/11/02
    04:43 UTC

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    [BETA TESTERS WANTED] - Turn your search bar into something better.

    Hey everyone! I’m the founder of Cairnify, a tool that transforms your search bar! With Cairnify, you can:

    Search Across Engines: Find exactly what you need faster, by switching between search engines on the fly.

    Quick Link Access: Store and retrieve important links instantly and sublinks within websites.

    Enhanced Search: Quickly, search through websites, such as shopping, documentation, documents, you name it!

    And more!

    I’m looking for beta users to try it out and share feedback. If you’re interested, join our Discord channel to ask for an invite and I'm looking forward to your insights and feedback!

    Disclaimer: This is a beta, not everything is working just yet, and your data may be reset when it's launched.

    🔗 Discord Invite

    3 Comments
    2024/11/02
    01:48 UTC

    76

    Google started charging my small business nearly $600 a month for their crappy AI. And we never signed up for it

    I just happened to be looking over our statements and happened to catch that the google bill was twice what it normally is. I never subscribed to Gemini and never wanted it. Fortunately their support claims that they will credit our account. But this easily could have gone unnoticed for months. I wonder how many businesses are getting scammed.

    6 Comments
    2024/11/01
    21:26 UTC

    14

    Need recommendations for an alternative to Google Voice. I don't mind paying.

    6 Comments
    2024/11/01
    17:34 UTC

    15

    Is there a list of Google apps that are safe to remove?

    I recently got an Honor X7C and noticed that there's a lot of Google apps pre-installed on it, can anybody teach me how to remove them?

    11 Comments
    2024/11/01
    12:24 UTC

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    Best privacy-friendly alternative to Gmail, among Proton Mail, Tuta and HEY?

    I've been a Proton Mail long-time user. I started on their first year I think, and I currently am on a Plus plan with my own domain at 50 USD per year.

    I used to love PM since it's all about quitting Gmail's monopoly, privacy, E2EE, etc. However, if there is something I just can not stand is their shitty development and insufferable slowness when it comes to deploying basic features.

    Just the other day I read their CEO's AMA and realize that as long as he's in charge this won't change. There are dozens of basic issues that have been there for YEARS, and where they still don't have 'a clear answer' as to how to proceed. Call it support for contacts syncing with email clients like Thunderbird, making their app available on F-Droid, a Linux client for their files app, etc.

    Yet, they keep rolling out crap nobody asked for, like a password manager and an online docs suite.

    Not to mention they have very shitty practices that there is no way you can consider acceptable for a company that's supposedly all about privacy. And I mean specifically the fact that they enable telemetry on all their apps by default without warning you (thanks God they now have an onion site which doesn't redirect you to their plain site).

    Anyway, I'm close to the end of my biling cycle and was wondering about other options like Tuta or HEY. The first one is even cheaper, at just 3 EUR per month. The second is way more expensive, at 100 USD per year, and while it doesn't promote itself as an encrypted email service, it offers a very interesting approach to email in terms of UX while promising they don't nor won't sell your data (sadly, their apps for Linux and Android, both of which I use are proprietary ).

    Anyway, do you have any experience with one of these other two email providers? Or would you stay on PM?

    43 Comments
    2024/11/01
    03:09 UTC

    21

    What search engine and browser do you use?

    I started using Librefox on my computer and Firefox focus on my cellphone and i love them a lot so far. If you have any suggestion of likewise opensource browser im all ear.

    The tricky part for me right now is choosing a search engine. I am currently hosting my own private instance of SearXNG on a VPS. As well as i like the search results and privacy of a metasearch engine I find it laggy and sometime i get no search result at all it only redirects me to the index page.

    So here I am begging for potential fixes but mainly browser and search engine reccomendation.

    EDIT :

    After your recommendations, I went with Mullvad browser on my desktop, and mull on my android phone.

    For the search engine :

    after someone in this thread recommended 4get.ch I looked into it and it is really amazing. It is an open source metasearch engine, just like SearXNG, but better imo and easier to install and customize. I will customize my instance more in the days to come, but if anyone wanna give it a try : https://search.webifyr.ca

    83 Comments
    2024/10/31
    21:32 UTC

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    is f droid safe?

    i've tried it but im not sure if it's safe, so is f droid safe?

    18 Comments
    2024/10/31
    21:23 UTC

    3

    App store of choice

    Which app store do you use that's not Google Play?

    I'm tempted to use Apkpure app store and would love some feedback from the community on it

    -thanks

    8 Comments
    2024/10/31
    20:42 UTC

    23

    Most secured and privacy friendly email at the end of 2024

    There have only 61 days left in 2024, many things are happened in this year, so I'm asking this post now.This topic is mostly asked on official subreddit so comments are slightly biased side. So, here I've came to ask for neutral opinions.

    I know there have few bad records of all the secure mail providers but currently they are doing well. I used every single email services, mainly used Tuta for over a year along with Protonmail as my secondary, use Startmail for shopping websites, Mailfence as a alternative of Tuta, never used Hushmail as it is business targeted. But now, I've decided to stick with any one of them for my personal use, so share your thoughts on this topic.

    I am pointing out some points of all services below which I mostly don't like.

    Note: I don't care about the other products of these companies so it's not a deciding factor for me.

    Protonmail --

    • They recently acquire Standard Notes which is known as privacy focused note taking app. So, now, the good services like SimpleLogin, Standard Notes are under Proton and their own products are also developing and performing well in market (proton pass, drive, etc) and I don't want to keep all my data in same company. Not only me, many people don't like to use all Proton products together.

    Some comments from the latest video of \"All Things Secured\" on YouTube.

    • ProtonMail indeed needs Play Services for notifications.. "Also I don't need Google services with Tutanota, and Proton need them to push notifications." from a reedit post. According to this comment, Proton has dependencies on Google which I really don't like but they said they have plans to work on this. Just don't expect it anytime soon.
    • Protonmail still can't encrypt email subject line because it follows the OpenPGP standards. But the plus point is, it use open pgp encryption so email can be shared in encrypted form with other pgp encrypted clients.
    • From what I read from reddit comments, zero knowledge encryption is that where if you forgot your password you have to forget your account also, that means no 'Forgot Password' option. But in protonmail, there have option to recover your account if you set recovery email in your account.
    • You can recover your account with a recovery email, but you need additional recovery methods to decrypt the data in your account. 

    *Tuta mail also have account recovery option but that is only possible if you have backup code of your account.

    Tuta mail --

    • It is cheaper than Protonmail but I have a suggestion fo them, if they'll introduce any plan like Proton Unlimited where you get unlimited email aliases from SimpleLogin.
    • I read some comments in reddit where people said Tuta suppressed or removed some posts and comments in past which is not a good habit for a company and by this behaviour, we can assume what their future goals look like.
    • Revealing some metadata is normal for PGP encrypted emails and Tutanota only achieves it by using AES instead. That's why, we can send encrypted email to only other tuta users not all pgp encrypted providers.
    • A recent user review here which is not good looking.

    Startmail --

    • Avoiding this option only because there have no official mobile app. In my desktop, after I close my browser, everytime it automatically log me out from my account. It's not fault of my browser as other types of accounts are still logged in.

    Mailfence --

    • I collected it from a reddit post, "it did not even encrypt mail at rest. Mailfence aknowledged that, although it had never mentioned it spontaneously before, and said it was "working on it". Has that work met achievement? Unless an email provider encrypts mail at rest in a zero-knowledge manner, meaning it could not decrypt it if it wanted to, any claims to privacy are a travesty." Looks like there have some issue related to privacy.
    • No anonymous sign-up: You have to provide your name and address to create an account with Mailfence.

    Hushmail --

    • "Hushmail’s privacy policy isn’t quite as strict as it could be " from allthingssecured [DOT] com
    • It is a great choice for healthcare or law professionals but I am not one of them

    Mailbox.org --

    • Email metadata isn't encrypted.

    Posteo --

    • A blogger critized their security, posteo sent laywyers to snitch him to the media authorities because no imprint, but he fights them off. Later he finds out that posteo thought he worked for the competition and tried to smear posteo.

    Countermail --

    • It doesn’t offer as many complementary features as various competitors.

    Not including Riseup, Shelter, Systemli because, they need an invitation to get in .

    Lastly, it,'s not a comparison, I've written my keypoints of most of the popular privacy friendly email provides which will help all of us in future. Comment box is alwayas open and your suggestion(s) are welcome.

    30 Comments
    2024/10/31
    11:19 UTC

    5

    Nokia T21

    Been trying to reduce as much as can with out breaking services. Anyone got any pro tips for this device?

    0 Comments
    2024/10/30
    23:20 UTC

    3

    trying to find a custom ROM

    this my first post here, not really related exactly to degoogle but its part of the process i guess. Im currently using a Xiaomi Redmi 10, just looking around it was hard to search for a compatible custom ROM that actually receives support and is official with my Xiaomi device. Since GrapheneOS is only for Pixels and LineageOS also dont supports my model, someone know some alternatives??

    In an older post from the xiaomi sub i found this custom ROM: Selene - Nusantara Project https://nusantararom.org/selene/

    If some of you are currently using it or know other alternatives that can be supported with Redmi 10 i appreciate some suggestions

    2 Comments
    2024/10/30
    18:33 UTC

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    Switching from VImusic to RImusic

    Hello everyone, From a few days I've been experiencing an error in the VImusic app, which is a Foss YouTube music client. The error that I've received is "The requested song ID is not matched to the original ID.". I think I'm getting this error because I've cleared the cache storage of Vi Music. But this error was on a few songs before that I'd added to my playlist long ago, but now this error is all over my playlist, and I'm unable to play any songs. But today I searched about the Foss alternatives of VImusic, and then I came across the fork of VImusic, RImusic. It's great, and also it can restore the backup from VIMusic, and it has an appearance option that can make it look and act like VIMusic. You can also try this app; it has more features and a good user interface compared to other YouTube music clients.

    So yeah, that's my experience, and VImusic is also the best application, and I appreciate the effort of developers. But I'm getting errors, so I switched to its fork. 

    Thanks for reading, and if this post is helpful for you, then consider an upvote, and replies and more suggestions are appreciated. 

    1 Comment
    2024/10/30
    15:46 UTC

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    GrapheneOS work profile???

    Just installed GrapheneOS and can't for the life of me figure out how to turn on the work profile. I see all sorts of web site reddit rringto it, but it's not actually there.

    Supposedly a toggle in settings, but I don't see it where people say it is. Maybe it was changed recently?

    I don't want a totally separate profile because I need certain work apps running in background

    12 Comments
    2024/10/30
    13:05 UTC

    5

    Home/family organizer app

    Hi, im looking for reccomendations.

    I need an app to create a "home centre" sort of thing with my wife. So the base requirement is that it has to be able to sync between devices. I want to be able to create different sorts of things there: simple text notes including lists to keep track of things like recepees or plant watering schedule, reacuring tasks, shared calendar, spreadsheets (for example spreadsheet with our finance tracker that we can both edit).

    I am not able to selfhost anything right now.

    The closest thing to what i want is Notion (and its not privacy friendly but at least its not google) but its android app is terrible and i intend to use this thing mostly on my phone.

    I dont like Nextcloud, its UI is pushing me off.

    I know that probably app like this doesnt exist but i'd like to know anything at least close to that. Synchronisation is the only thing that is mandatory for me baceuse sharing this with my wife is to main purpose of this. Second most important thing for me is the finance tracker possibility for example through spreadsheet.

    If you think that there is no app like that tell me what combination of apps do you use for similiar purposes?

    Thanks in advance! ;)

    2 Comments
    2024/10/30
    12:39 UTC

    51

    Switching to protonmail

    Hey! I have recently started degoogling switched to arc, ecosia and proton pass on all devices.

    I have created a proton mail account and am wanting to switch completely to proton mail to the point where I could delete my gmail account.

    How could I effectively do this? I have had gmail since I was 11 (I’m 22) and ALL my accounts I’ve ever created on any site is on that gmail account.

    How can I find all those accounts and delete them (they must have very bad passwords and leaking data(I don’t really know I’m new to all of this)).

    Basically how can I make a Full in depth switch to the new protonmail account? Would I have to remember each account I created and switch emails in each of those sites or delete them? And send emails to everyone telling them I’m switching?

    Is it even worth making such a change? There a few features with gmail I like, such as the notifications, social, promotions tabs, 15gb storage and mostly the ability to add +name at the end of my email to know where the email comes from. The only thing proton mail is better at is privacy but it seems like a big hassle to switch emails…

    41 Comments
    2024/10/29
    23:53 UTC

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    Google photo alternative app with location photo search?

    Is there an app or software that I can store photos and videos and also I can easily search those by location?

    I currently use google photo and I'm paying the fee only because I need to use this "search photo on google map" function. I'm not a photographer, but I always take a bunch of photos as a memo.

    Do you guys know any good alternatives? I don't want to pay monthly fee anymore. I can invest money on NAS if I need to.

    15 Comments
    2024/10/29
    21:13 UTC

    8

    Google take over at work ! My work is making everything we need to operate, somehow enabled google-related

    Never had Google (?)anything really, with the exception of gmail I’ve had a long time. I don’t like Google services bc of how persistent they are with building an infinity pool of info in each stretch of our reality. So over the top, +sneaky about it, sometimes get you until you can’t back out. It’s an information black hole. I’m good on that cult

    Now my work is migrating to a simpler cheaper web source to host our company’s web ecosystem with a data-driven connectivity model (analytics & AI taking humans jobs) and it’s ALL GOOGLE WORKSPACE ugh. Normally services run off a legacy system 3rd party softwar, number of Slack channels of people input, free range capabilities etc.. email domains with system servers or Okta. No personal information was requested really for work functions like it is now with all Google. And I accidently synced my phone to it last week and now I’m having trouble ridding my photos on iCloud \google ..SMH!!
    I can’t do anything about it until I know how to DEFINITELY FIX IT!
    Plus Google admin turned my bosses into control freaks, every bring being decided by AI software that reacts off the DATA AUDITS AND PROCESSES WE PUT IN PLACE .. ugh

    Anyway, how the heck do I get the Google sync from work account off my phone’s personal account? Without disconnecting it off my phone, I have to have the Google services for work

    now all Google Google Google, google sign in to EVERYTHING.

    7 Comments
    2024/10/29
    19:43 UTC

    7

    FindMyPhone alternative w/o Google account

    So short version of the story is I have an (ironically) Google Pixel that I have been just using the stock OS but I have never tried this phone to a Google account, I use Neo Store to access the F-Droid repository of apps and Aurora Store to access Google Play without an account.

    I'm looking for a good way to find my phone even when it's on silent. And ideally run a remote wipe too if needed. I'm going to have to rely on finding it by ringing because I leave location turned off most the time so it can't be a GPS only based solution.

    And I suspect this goes without saying here, but it has to be something that's not going to turn into a privacy nightmare. Bonus if it's open source and you can run the server component yourself.

    9 Comments
    2024/10/29
    18:41 UTC

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    Bare minimum Google play

    So I am in a bind here, I compeltely degoogled my phone...only to realize a crucial app is asking me to login with Google (Grab).
    I can't get it to work. I tried reinstalling Vending and GMS but the app still wont let me.
    What are the names of the packages that will allow me to login on a google account on android?

    Update: Got it, it was GMS and restart. But now I have my card that doesn't want to get it. Would there be crucial packages that the app is checking for?

    13 Comments
    2024/10/29
    12:41 UTC

    23

    Any alternatives to google docs?

    I have arch Linux, but the spellchecker for Spanish Latam in libreoffice and onlyoffice is too basic. I have to use google docs. Any options??

    11 Comments
    2024/10/28
    21:52 UTC

    1

    Gadgetbridge is the best alternative for bicycle stats?

    Hi guys! Recently my wife began to use my amazfit bip lite (old model). Have a lot of time without use the official application, always used gadgetbridge. Is there any way in gadgetbridge to have stats if I ride a bicycle?

    0 Comments
    2024/10/28
    21:30 UTC

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    Should I switch from calyx to graphene?

    It was time to reture my pixel 4a in favor of a pixel 8. I've ran calyx for years and have overall been happy except mirog and aurora store sometimes not working and location services breaking due to Mozilla abandoning some service, I did fund a workaround though.

    Now for the million dollar question, should I make the switch to graphene? My priorities are on privacy, more than security. I do however still have the need for the following apps, this is non-negtionable and given that privacy is not something binary I'm OK with the trade off for now.

    Google photos - mostly for the ease if use with sharing photos between family members Google maps - all other options I've tried gave felt lackluster Facebook messenger - my switch to signal crusade has worked for a total of 4 people, the rest are all on messenger....

    Given that I need the below apps an important factor is how well calyx and graphene, respectively, can sandbox these as to minimize exposure to the rest of the phone.

    24 Comments
    2024/10/28
    19:01 UTC

    39

    Is anyone knows what vulnerability is this, If I use it for YouTube only, do I have to remove?

    21 Comments
    2024/10/27
    22:02 UTC

    2

    Self host drive accessible everywhere

    Hello I am a newbie in this area and I would like to know if there is a way to create a self hosted drive accessible anywhere from outside of my local network?

    15 Comments
    2024/10/27
    17:21 UTC

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    Os with tor

    Hello im on Google Pixel 6a im rn on graphenos but i want to have the full security is there an os what is like whonix that everything goes oder tor ?

    2 Comments
    2024/10/26
    20:19 UTC

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