Recently had a discussion with Blake from OTG about the buttonhook. I showed him screenshots from both their videos and from old GBRS videos that OTG has directly referenced. I even took the time to do hand drawn examples of how they do it, compared to how I believe it should be done. After 4 days of back and forth, he still refused to acknowledge the problems I brought up.

Looking back on it, I am starting to wonder if maybe it's not that big a deal. To me I see it a symptom of larger issues. If you can't walk straight, maybe you shouldn't be running, let alone teaching others how to run. But at the end of the day, it's accomplishing the same thing. I'm not changing how I do it, but I was wondering what the sub's opinion on this is. I'm trying not to be pedantic over something small. But I also don't want to be like him, where he just straight refuses to acknowledge other perspectives and criticism.

I recent read and watched some of Ken J Good's work. He is a former Seal who primarily focused on night shooting and lights. His stuff sucks. Really outdated and ridiculous stuff that even by the time was bad. But I have always noticed that WML SOP's tend to vary a lot from person to person and unit to unit. So I figured I'd share what has worked for me, and ask others how they use lights. What SOP/TTP's do you prefer? What are some mistakes you often see when it comes to guys running white lights? How do you deal with certain issues like light flooding underneath doors? Etc.

I use two main methods of lighting an area with WML's. The first being the "snapshot", where the light comes on for a split second, information is gathered and processed, then light goes off. Second is the "drag", which is like a snapshot, but you drag the light from one point to the other. I recently did some FoF training, and a dude with a strobe light really demonstrated how effective the drag could be. I also noticed a lot of guys still run pads instead of a tail cap. I don't understand why. I have seen so many ND's from pads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-Wlf5jh34U
I saw this video and i notice the 3rd guy pointed muzzle at 1st man's back at the beginning.
is it his mistake or did i miss something?

Most of the prices seem so steep, I was contemplating going to Thailand to get tactical training but they seem to be ridiculously priced (separately pay for rifle fees, bullet fees, vat tax)

So, Pranka says a guy with a gun in a room is not a barricaded shooter. To call something a barricaded shooter, one must physically set up defenses to hinder an assault.

"Barricaded Shooter" as I know it is a phrase used to describe a decision point and guide decision making in certain situations. I think it is widely used this way. Not all of these situations require the literal definition of the phrase.

I think this is interesting because it makes me wonder about the decision work flow for him in the absence of something like this.

Say, as you begin down a hallway, a guy with a gun takes a shot in your direction and runs into a room at the end of the hall. Absent an HR type thing, what is the wisdom of going straight at that?

I would open my barricaded shooter folder in my brain and look for alternatives.

Is Pranka just being pedantic here? Does he not get that people don't mean it literally? Does he not make decisions which would change his approach based on changing circumstances? Would the scenario i described above be a decision point for him? I can't imagine he'd think it was a good idea just to go for it.

Dynamic and watered down deliberate CQB often get posted online, but does anyone know if Line of Communication style CQB has ever been properly demonstrated in any videos?

https://youtu.be/YmFJKq0kNtg?si=x2q1zRnZTP5gpXtT

Also the comment section in this video is a little funny, tell me what you find there

Can you name all the training facilities that you know of that have a cqb facility in USA that are great? Looking for new locations to rent.

Holster When Safe

Check the shirt drop for you CQB lovers. 🤙🏼

I have never used a flash bang, or have ever experienced one in real life.

My question to those experienced in their application is, is their effectiveness diminished against an adversary who has experienced them enough? or who is expecting them to be deployed?

From my understanding a flash bang is a devise that makes a large amount of noise and changes the air pressure in the room. So I'm curious if someone is ready for this interaction can they "ignore" the effects.

Hey! New guy here!

Maybe someone can point me in the right direction?!

Heres the question, I was unable to find an advanced cqb training system that tracks the entry and reacts to it.

In most cases operators are flying into rooms and just shooting at moving targets at best.

Hence my curiosity - is there a “smarter” system that can generate and provide feedback?

Thank you in advance.

I recently went through some FOG videos. I noticed that they constantly bypass known threats to clear unknown space. Two examples being at 0:50 in https://youtu.be/1rgO9_jJax4?si=YhsiVMMMOS42ULOG And at 0:10 in https://youtu.be/njxZxSVZOlw?si=MeOWpRJf9tGvCF5B

Kinda odd given them being known as the "PRIORITIES OF WORK!" guys, but when I asked, they stood by this and that it didn't make sense to not clear a corner before the threat. Do people still do this because of big army indoctrination, or do you think it's something else? These guys have done FOF, so I can't understand why they haven't changed to known threat>unknown space.

I came across a article at Borderland Strategic:

https://borderlandstrategic.com/2017/06/13/cqb-and-the-floating-angle/

In that "article" it states:

"Still others use more of a corkscrew clear that tightens to the door rather than consistently moving away from the corner, so that sections of the room that have already been cleared always stay within visual sight of the person clearing. This technique is difficult to describe but helps solve many of the above issues."

I have not seen or heard of this technique. Is there anyone on this sub that can explain a corkscrew clear and how it is performed? Also, is it effective.

I’ve always addressed the floating angle by use of step center for DE and by having 2 msn move up to cover the potential moving angle as point man rainbows the entry point before crossing the line of departure. Any suggestions to the contrary are appreciated. Thanks.

Due to the increasing actions and hostility around the world, the threat of near-peer conflicts grows higher and higher by the day. As the title states, I’m wondering if any laser sight is on the market, civilian or military, that wouldn’t alert a similarly armed opposition force also equipped with NODS?

Edit: the way the title was worded it seems like I’m asking about all laser sights. I realize that would be specialty equipment and not available on a standard, run of the mill sight

So I had a thought occur to me and this is mainly academic as I live in Canada but figured this would be the best place to ask. Is there somewhere on Youtube or something that would demonstrate the best way to counter a breach? You see all these guides and courses on how to clear a room including things like flashbangs and whatnot. What I'm looking for is what if your the guy inside that room that's about to get banged before they make entry?

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/79ytxdo9qt

Could be wrong… But looks like the dude in the structure utilized an elevation change, looked pretty low… 😏 Combined with the casualty’s poor angle of attack to angle of exposure ratio, and he sealed the deal.

Mods, take down this post if elevation changes are too taboo 😉

Hi everyone,

Here's a link to the video with the specific timestamp I'm referring to: https://youtu.be/HCQ-4jsvnNk?si=tFdAYsxzUQs7cfPZ&t=1005. But most of you have probably already seen the new UF Pro series videos. In my particular example you can see Dr. Special Forces essentially teaching a plating maneuver when encountering dead spaces located inside the wall you're moving along.

My biggest concern with this technique is probably that the outside man, the one that is replacing the scan of the first man at the dead space, is potentially moving into the sorrounding fields of fire. The most common way addressing such dead spaces I've seen so far is to either ignore and walk past them until all scanning inside your room is finished or to just stop in front of them, that potentially leading to space issues on the other hand.

However, while I can understand the way they handled the lateral dead space, the technique he taught for handling opposing dead space right in front of them is totally illogical and pretty dangerous in my opinion (https://youtu.be/HCQ-4jsvnNk?si=ab7IHfdj9FF\_pMOA&t=1118). If dead space is located on the opposing wall you can just scan and see inside it by continuing to move along the strong wall no need to stop and to perform plating.

Anyway, what are your thoughts about this, how would you have handled this situation ? Same way as in the video or somewhat different ?

And as always, dOn'T FOrgET yoOUR FuCkING PRIoRiTiEs OF WoRK !

I live in a bungalow. Small house, lots of doors. I’ll describe my best and try and find my floor plan later.

Front door, straight into a sitting room. That flows into a kitchen, which leads to an upstairs, and a garage. Kind of straight forward. Except, in the upstairs , there are two angles impossible to clear no matter the personal. You’re simply bested in a narrow stairwell and spots someone can lean down and into a kill zone. That’s problem one.

Problem two is way worse. The home has about a 10’ long, L-shaped hallway. It leads to the bathroom, both bedrooms, and a closet. So, when you enter that hallway, there are already 6 blind corners. Bathroom has 2, both bedrooms have 2, hallway has another dead zone at the corner need one bedroom.

Both bedrooms have your typical closets. All these rooms have awkward, easy to hide behind doors.

So a solo sweep of the house and you’re done if someone has already mapped the house. No matter how slick or careful, you give yourself away when choosing an angle, because it opens you up to several more when you reveal.

With even 4 guys, all will have to walk into a blind corner when clearing , no matter the strategy the house doesn’t give any chance of taking any pie slices without being blind to another room that could have a better shot at you

Has anyone seen this scenario? Again a drawing would be better but suffice so say, even a team will have their point man exposed to multiple angles without room for a spotter or anyone to cover them.

So it’s just hope for the best? Throw a flash in the room and hope for the best? What is done in these scenarios?

A tip, where can I find some good points, vids, knowledge etc? Something like IG/YT pages Project gecko, GBRS, FRWD, OTG. Thanks!

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7gDW7ymag4VLTtTP6N7ot4?si=0KCsYrODRiqXI9J4vVxsHQ

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ttpoa-podcast/id1562240320?i=1000553582033

This podcast is titled Knock or No-Knock. They discuss the pros and cons of dynamic entry vs surround and call out. The consensus in this podcast is that dynamic entry is better because you are catching people by surprise instead of giving them time to prepare.

A member of Dallas SWAT said that in his experience, they have almost never been shot at during a dynamic, no nock warrant service, but they have been shot at during plenty of surround and call-outs.

For the purpose of their discussion, it seems like "dynamic" just means making an immediate entry into the building, and not necessarily dynamic clearing within the structure because they talk threshold assessments at one point. Although they do conflate the two because they talk about how you can always slow down, but not necessarily speed up.

Anyway, I'm wondering your thoughts. Especially our LEO and Military members with relevant experience.

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