/r/comicbookgrading
A community for comic book collectors wanting to share information on grading/valuing their collections personally. Discussion on the various types of flaws that can be found on comics and how they affect the grade. Can include trying to interpret why professional grading companies gave particular grades, but not so much the process of sending them off to be graded.
A community for comic book collectors wanting to share information on grading/valuing their collections personally. Discussion on the various types of flaws that can be found on comics and how they affect the grade. Can include trying to interpret why professional grading companies gave particular grades, but not so much the process of sending them off to be graded.
/r/comicbookgrading
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02:04 UTC
Comic book values?
Greetings! I have some comics that I’d like to get checked out. Where would one go to receive accurate grading close to NYC?
21:28 UTC
Buying raw, thoughts on grade?
04:38 UTC
CGC for Batman 181. Do I add pressing? Restoration?
Or should I just do the basic? I'm not a collector. This is from a family estate. Thanks in advance for any advice!
15:32 UTC
Completely new to grading... any opinions on what grade this issue might get?
I figured I would start with my old favorite. Trying to decide if it's worth the cost to grade the other rare issues I have; most of the comics in my collection in similar condition.
00:04 UTC
Converting 3rd-Party to Old School Grades
Before third-party grading, there were basically only a few grades (descriptions taken from https://forums.atomicavenue.com/index.php?/basics-of-atomic-avenue/atomic-avenue-grading-guidelines/ )
Mint (MT)
Perfect in every way. Note that this is a rare condition. Numeric graders call this a 10, and it requires no flaws.
Near Mint (NM)
Nearly perfect copy of an item. The cover is flat and glossy without any surface wear, the spine is tight, and the corners are square. The interior pages are generally well-centered and firmly secured with original staples and no staple tears or stress lines. Only has barely perceptible flaws—e.g. subtle printing defects. No creases, staining, soiling or other discoloration. The comic or magazine looks as if it were just purchased from the store.
Very Fine (VF)
Item is in excellent condition but has been read. Cover is clean but may be slightly less glossy; cover cannot be rolled or torn. Spine is tight and flat, although tiny, hard to see staple tears and small bends up to 1/4" long on the cover are acceptable if the color is not broken. Corners are still square but may have slight blunting. Stamped or inked arrival dates may be present on older comics or magazines. Interior pages are firmly attached and all staples are original. Paper may be cream to tan in color without acidic odor. No creases, staining, soiling or other discoloration except for minor foxing. Item looks like it was purchased new from the store and gently read.
Fine (F)
Item is beginning to show minor wear. An accumulation of small defects is allowed, such as a few creases no more than 1/4" on the front cover or spine, blunted corners, tiny staple tears, and minor discoloration or stress lines. Only the slightest rolling on the spine is permitted. Older items may have stamped or inked arrival dates. Original staples could be discolored or replaced. Interior pages are still attached and paper may be cream to tan in color but not brown. No obvious soiling or staining. Item appears to have been read several times but very well-cared for.
Very Good (VG)
Well-used, but well-cared for item. Cover surface shows moderate wear and may include: minor to moderate creases, dimples, loss of gloss, blunted corners, minor to moderate staining, discoloration, staple rust, and/or foxing. Spine may be split up to ½" and some mild spine rolling is allowed. Stamped or inked arrival dates may be present. Staples may be rusted or replaced. Interior pages may be loose but are still solidly attached. Paper is tan to brown and might have a slightly acidic odor as well as some minor tearing of 1" or less.
Good (G)
Not very good at all, frankly. A used item with substantial wear. Item still has all of its pages and interiors but significant pieces of the cover and interior pages (no more than 2" in size) may be missing. Creases, stress lines, rounded or chipped corners, dimples, foxing, and fading are all allowed. Stamped or inked arrival dates may also be present on the cover. Binding is loose, a staple may be detached, and spine may have a split of anywhere from 2" plus moderate rolling. Tape and other amateur repair are common in Silver Age and older books. Interior paper color is brown but not brittle and may have some soiling or discoloration in addition to odor and tears. Comic is basically used but still intact and readable.
Fair (FA)
An item which shows heavy wear. Creases and folds are common and corners are rounded or missing entirely. Soiling, staining, foxing, fading, pencil or other marks and abrasions on the cover are prevalent as well. Cover and interior pages are generally intact but may have up to one-forth of the cover missing or the back cover missing (although not both). Staples are rusted and may be missing or replaced. Spine roll is expected and split spine may extend for up to two thirds of the book. The interior paper color is brown and brittle and chunks may be missing, and in particular there may be cut outs of coupons. Tape and other amateur repair are common in Silver Age and older books. Often the condition of an item that has been used and read and later collected.
Poor (P)
An item that has been used and damaged to a point where it is often not even considered worth collecting. Severe stains, mildew, creases, folding, foxing, and pencil or other markings dominate the cover. Corners are extremely ragged or missing. Spine is rolled, discolored, and/or split. Staples are missing or badly rusted and the pages are falling apart. The interior pages are brown and very brittle with extensive tears and multiple pages or large parts that may be missing entirely. There is significant acidic decay and odor for the paper. Water damage, glue, paints, or indelible dyes may cover the interiors and/or cover as well. Tape and other amateur repair are common. This item has been obviously used and abused.
So if one had comics that had been unofficially graded with the full CGC-style numbering system, and wanted to simplify them down to the above system, do you think this is how it would convert?
- Mint: 10.0
- Near Mint: 9.2-9.9
- Very Fine: 7.0-9.0
- Fine: 5.0-6.5
- Very Good: 3.0-4.5
- Good: 1.5-2.5
- Fair: 1.0
- Poor: 0.5/incomplete
I'm using how CovrPrice clusters the grades as a starting point but made some adjustments.
Thoughts?
ETA: Using the names that CGC puts under the numbers, the breakout would be as follows.
Mint - 9.9-10.0
Near Mint - 9.2-9.6, with 9.8 being a question.
Very Fine - 7.5-8.5, with 9.0 being a question.
Fine - 5.5-6.5, with 7.0 being a question.
Very Good - 3.5-4.5, with 5.0 being a question.
Good - 1.8-2.5, with 3.0 being a question.
Fair - 1.0, with 1.5 being a question.
Poor - 0.5
02:03 UTC
Does anyone have these and are they worth getting?
12:50 UTC
Grading in the UK
Hi. Ive recently been lucky enought to buy a comic ive been after for years. I would like it graded and put into a case. Ive found 1 place in the UK, but its a 190 working day turn around!!!!! Does anyone know of anywhere i can get my book graded??
09:32 UTC
False grading.
Hey all I'm curious for an opinion. I received my spawn 317 I believe back and it was signed by greg capullo. However it was returned as verified Todd macfarlane. Anyone have thoughts on how this affects the value?
10:20 UTC