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A place to discuss the history, culture and films of classic Hollywood (loosely defined as the years 1917-1960s).

A place to discuss classic Hollywood (loosely defined as the years 1917-1960s).

This sub's focus is on the broad culture and history of the classic Hollywood era, as well as the stars and personalities of the time. While discussion about specific films and shows is very much welcome here.

Related Subs

r/classicfilms

r/filmnoir

r/WarMovies

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How come for all the adoration of America for involvement World War 2, do most Filipinos even older generations who lived through it so ignorant of the contemporary American pop-culture of the time? Even those who later immigrate to the USA? Esp the biggest movie stars of 30s and 40s Hollywood?

A distant cousin on the side of my family who intermarried Filipinos just watched Gone With the Wind for the very first time despite yesterday also majoring in history and specializing in World War 2.

In addition in a thread about the internationally popular European actor Alain Delon who was the hearthrob of Asia, so much that he was actually far more popular than most contemporary big AAA list within Asia names in America during his peak popularity such as Paul Newman and Jane Fonda. To the point that even the biggest world famous American celeb Elizabeth Taylor was actually unknown in some countries such as Indonesia and Thailand but Delon had a loyal fan base in these same nations that barely had any exposure to the American pop cultural landscape of the time....... I saw this comment.

not here. tbh the PH is somewhat sheltered from trends in the rest of Asia and has historically been a regional outlier. most trends here historically have followed the US straight out, and to a limited extent, Latin America.

Also, local PH trends don't affect the rest of Asia.

Only recently (since the 2010's) can you find that trends in other neighboring countries affect pop culture here, and even then, it's limited. The only real trend that took on here on a normal level is what was Indonesian EDM and Dangdut koplo music, which became repackaged as Moro disco/Pakiring music, and then morphed into what we know today as Budots/Pinoy EDM when Visayans caught on to the trend. Now it's considered "normal" everywhere to hear it and even influenced social media in neighboring countries.

And this makes me wonder......... A lot of my older in-laws from the Philippines are still enamored with the aforementioned Elizabeth Taylor and other stars from the 60s. Do not even get me started on the 70s with the Star Wars cast and Al Pacino or the rewatches of Jaws, and so on. And I can tell talking to people from the local Pilipinas community in my state names like ABBA, Michael Caine (even though he's British), Diana Ross, Richard Dreyfus, Star Trek, and other 1950s-1970s pop culture are on the minds of people born before the Xennial generation......... Hell I know an elderly woman who is almost 80 who still oozes on about Elvis Presley........

But the thing is........ That same elderly lady despite who was born around late 1940s after the War........... Does not know who Gene Tierney was, deemed as the most beautiful woman of her era even against other competition such as Rita Hayworth and Vivien Leigh in Hollywood and held a similar status to Elizabeth Taylor as as the queen of beauty Goddess. She even acted in a lot of contemporary war films and was a common poster child for war bonds promotion.

This elderly lady knew who Clark Gable was but at the same time never seen Basil Rathborne who was the Sherlock Holmes of the same era. Nor does could she name any of the big bands such as Glenn Miller Orchestra to use a non-movie example. She only seen one Abbott and Costella movie and didn't know they did about 20 total flicks in their run. She was even surprised that in Audrey Hepburn's movie Unforgiven that one of the leads alongside her was America's most decorated war veteran ever Audie Murphy who had a career in Hollywood immediately after the War . Despite her parents living in the war,, she didn't knew who about Audie Murphy even strictly for his military service despite being guilty of throwing the same cliches of worshiping the Americans as liberators so you can only guess about her ignorance that about his Hollywood career.

So I really ask. Its understandable that people born in the 60s and later would not know any famous people from America during the War outside of the historical figures like MacArthur and Franklin Roosevelt and John Wayne maybe Clark Gable, Humphrey Bogart, and Vivien Leigh for the more than casual film watchers. But I'm still scratching my head why despite the universal adoration people born int he 40s and 50s had for America thanks for liberation from the Japanese that almost none of them (even going by anecdotes on the internet people who actually survived the war) know about Cornel Wilde (who was also big in Europe during his lifetime) or Rex Harrison.Sure Fred Astaire is known by a few, but its surprising even those who can name Astaire never heard of Ginger Rogers who was famed for her 10 movie collaberation with Fred.

Yet all the AAA celebs (not just actors) of the 50s seemed to be known even those born a decade later in the 60s such as Gregory Peck, Grace Kelly, Ray Charles, Dean Martin, and many more and do not get me started on the peak 60s names like Steve McQueen and even British giants like Peter O'Toole and Sean Connery.

I ask why is Filipino cross intersection with American wartime pop culture culture like this? Like those whose career didn't continue thriving onto the 50s such as the aforementioned Gene Tierney and Bela Lugosi the first big sound Dracula actor so unknown by even people who had seen the War firsthand? While the most adored vintage names are those who peaks came later in their lives in the 50s and 60s like as mentioned earlier Elizabeth Taylor or Frank Sinatra or at least had careers that continue to be alive such as John Wayne or with universally known classics such as Gone with the Wind with Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh?

As someone who watches more Classic Studio System era stuff, it just feels so jarring that will all the open love older people give towards america for World War 2, that I can't find anyone even from the 60+ group who's a Dana Andrews fan or could talk about Frances Farmer's tragic and unfulfilled career. Its gotten to the point that even younger generations who study World War 2 deeply have never seen Gone With the Wind as I mentioned with my cousin and are unaware of the war veteran actors like Clark Gable himself.

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2024/04/27
07:05 UTC

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A Series of Silent Star Stamps

A Series of Stamps Featuring the Stars of the Silent Screen - http://www.comicbookandmoviereviews.com/2024/03/a-series-of-stamps-featuring-stars-of.html #celebrity #hollywood #stamps #film #vintage

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2024/03/27
16:17 UTC

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ID This Celebrity

I know this is a photo of Billy Barty and Alan Bale Jr, but who is the third fellow?

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2024/03/06
12:03 UTC

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Love with the Proper Stranger Movie Review

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2024/02/13
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The Roaring Twenties (1939) - "Here's one rap ya won't beat"

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2024/01/28
22:34 UTC

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Unpopular Classic Cinema Opinions?

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2024/01/28
00:28 UTC

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0:06 / 3:43 The Apartment 1960 Movie Review

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2024/01/23
20:02 UTC

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The Adventures of Robin Hood (Film 1938 AD) Is The Greatest Film of All Time

https://preview.redd.it/gktmg3wemy8c1.jpg?width=762&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1761d396596301cfda032b186c790c8a33f852c0

Please read this online post, this whole online post, and look at this picture.

The phrases, "I think" and "I know", mean different things.

By the phrase, "I think", I will mean, "Personally, I think".

I think the adventure-genre film The Adventures of Robin Hood (the year 1938 AD) is the greatest film and folklore Robin Hood's film of all time.

Parentheses mean whispering.

This was a popular film along with films like the classic family and fantasy genre musical film The Wizard of Oz (the year 1939 AD) and the romantic film Gone with the Wind (1939 AD) in the decade 1930s AD.

Things like vibrant colors, good characters and stories and good or okay music that made the Wizard of Oz ('39 AD) good made The Adventures of Robin Hood, The Adventures of Robin Hood as well, good.

The actor Errol Flynn was heroic, handsome and charismatic as the character Robin Hood.

The actress Olivia De Havilland was beautiful, good or okay looking and sweet as the character Maid Marian.

I will say the words, at least.

The actor Claude Rains was worthy of despising or, at least, a little bit, disliking, but comedical and entertaining, comedical and entertaining too, as the character, Prince John, the villain in this classic or iconic film.

Also,

This is my favorite film of all time, past, present and future, with the romantic time-traveling film Somewhere in Time (the year 1980 AD) being my second favorite film of all time.

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2023/12/28
04:04 UTC

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The Adventures of Robin Hood (Film 1938 AD) Is The Greatest Film of All Time

https://preview.redd.it/gktmg3wemy8c1.jpg?width=762&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1761d396596301cfda032b186c790c8a33f852c0

Please read this online post, this whole online post, and look at this picture.

The phrases, "I think" and "I know", mean different things.

By the phrase, "I think", I will mean, "Personally, I think".

I think the adventure-genre film The Adventures of Robin Hood (the year 1938 AD) is the greatest film and folklore Robin Hood's film of all time.

Parentheses mean whispering.

This was a popular film along with films like the classic family and fantasy genre musical film The Wizard of Oz (the year 1939 AD) and the romantic film Gone with the Wind (1939 AD) in the decade 1930s AD.

Things like vibrant colors, good characters and stories and good or okay music that made the Wizard of Oz ('39 AD) good made The Adventures of Robin Hood, The Adventures of Robin Hood as well, good.

The actor Errol Flynn was heroic, handsome and charismatic as the character Robin Hood.

The actress Olivia De Havilland was beautiful, good or okay looking and sweet as the character Maid Marian.

I will say the words, at least.

The actor Claude Rains was worthy of despising or, at least, a little bit, disliking, but comedical and entertaining, comedical and entertaining too, as the character, Prince John, the villain in this classic or iconic film.

Also,

This is my favorite film of all time, past, present and future, with the romantic time-traveling film Somewhere in Time (the year 1980 AD) being my second favorite film of all time.

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2023/12/28
04:04 UTC

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Alfalfa was a Jerk w/ a sad ending.

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2023/11/19
20:55 UTC

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The Pooch (1932) - "I can eat a rubber boot"

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2023/11/12
17:07 UTC

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Captain Blood (1935) - Blood vs. Levasseur

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2023/11/10
17:14 UTC

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42nd Street (1933) - "Young and healthy"

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2023/11/08
21:01 UTC

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Pay As You Exit (1936) - "Pay as you exit is our slogan"

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2023/09/25
16:59 UTC

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They Were Expendable (1945) - Air Raid Scene

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2023/09/22
21:59 UTC

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Love Business (1931) - "My mama put gasoline on my head"

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2023/09/22
21:57 UTC

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Medley: Avalon / As Time Goes By - Casablanca, 1942, 4K

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2023/09/16
00:28 UTC

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Yankee Doodle Dandy (1942) - "Manhattan went wild" Scene

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2023/09/13
16:35 UTC

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The Crimson Ghost (1946) - Fight & Car Chase Scene

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2023/09/13
16:34 UTC

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The Magnificent Ambersons (1942) - "Automobiles Have Come"

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2023/09/06
22:29 UTC

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The Bachelor and the Bobby-Soxer [Official Colorization]

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2023/07/11
13:07 UTC

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RET-TV Movie Of The Week: QUICKSAND starring Mickey Rooney

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2023/07/08
07:44 UTC

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A Chump at Oxford (1940) - "Dizzy dean" Scene [Official Colorization]

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2023/07/05
19:04 UTC

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