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Background
I have a background in coffee and am very passionate about food and cooking in general. Always been interested in learning more about chocolate since they are similar but I'm not crazy about sugary foods. Eventually I found myself enjoying snacking on 100% ghirardelli dark chocolate wafers. I decided I wanted to try some other types pure cacao. After trying a few, I was fascinated and realized there's no better time to go for a deep dive into the rabbit hole. Sure you could try a new chocolate each week, but the differences and nuances are less obvious when spread apart. After all, most chocolate will taste primarily like... cholate. I wanted to really see the full spectrum of what chocolate has to offer, and doing a ton in a dense period seemed the most efficient. Plus maybe a touch of 'tism involved.
Methods
This all took place over the course of maybe 2 months where I would typically start each day mindfully trying around ~5g from 3 new bars at a time, selected randomly with an RNG. More than 3 new ones at a time tended to be a little too confusing on the palate, but I would often go back and make retroactive comparisions as sanity checks after the new ones. Then when I was all done, I went back and did a lot more fine tuning of my results. Some days I tried 20+ chocolates in the same day. I logged all of this on an excel spreadsheet. I'm not gonna share it here, but I tracked the following: Brand, Origin, Variety, Exp date, Price, Weight, $ per g.
And then I had numerical ranking systems for the following categories: Package (the unboxing experience), Visual (of chocolate bar), mouthfeel, potency, distinctness, sweetness, bitterness, acidity, and overall score
. I noted if there were any flavor notes on the package and recorded my own comments as well. I'm not a professional chocolate taster but to me, these categories were the most relevant things to track. I also took photos of the packaging and bars.
Source
All chocolates were sourced online. Most were from barandcocoa.com . I'm not writing this to shill them, but they were clearly the store with the largest collection of specialty 100% dark chocolates and prices were comparable or better to purchasing directly from the brands themselves. Their customer service was very good too, I'm quite happy with them. Ultimately I ended up buying all the possible 100% bars they had offered on the website at the time. Then there were a handful of brand-specific purchases where I bought through the brand website like To'ak.
There's a lot of things I could say.... I'm gonna subcategorize by the things I tracked.
Brand
Origin
Variety
Exp Date
Price/Weight
Packaging
Visual
Mouthfeel
Potency
Distinctness
Sweetness
Bitterness
Acidity
Astringency
Tasting notes
Defects
The Organic House, Phillippines: hypersmooth, not very acidic/bitter, mellow soft caramel, milky and creamy, nutty. Disagree with the floral tasting notes, but it is a mellower taste so I can see why.
Cacao Hunters, Colombia: Very tasty, extremely sweet, caramely, mellow flavors, maybe a little fruity. their description isnt bad ["flavors of lemongrass, lemon balm, green apple, fresh herbs, and flowers"], I think apple works. Well balanced although suspiciously sweet, probably the sweetest overall.
Momotombo Waslala, Nicaragua: Soft/mellow yet profound. A very distinct leathery/woody flavor with a touch of mintiness. Interesting degree of complexity for being mellow, and highly distinct
Domori, Venezuela: Potent hazelnut flavor, almost like nutella. Maybe peanut/almond a tad. Very smooth mouthfeel, rich and balanced.
Original Beans, Cusco: The most fruity, ridiculous berry flavor, deep and bright.
Francois Pralus, Madagascar: Hypersmooth and lush, intensely milky, toasted nut/caramel. really well executed crowd-pleaser for sure. good job sir
Zotter Labooka Maya, blend: Great mouthfeel with beautiful packaging and design. Bold and intense. A fearless, classic dark chocolate flavor leaning towards bitter.
Firetree, Vanuatu: Deep, rich, moody, balanced. There is a slight hint of red fruit flavor in the periphery. satisfying lip smacking texture.
Fresco 267, Ghana: Very sweet, nutty, toasty. Very smooth and rounded, albeit a tinge of astringency in the finish. Light on the palate with a very distinct graham cracker flavor.
A. Morin Guemon, Ivory Coast: Unmistakeable smokey/woody flavor. Potent, entrancing and distinct. love it.
A. Morin Chanchamayo, Peru: Extremely fruity, floral, complex. Very sweet and hard to believe its not sweetened or flavored.
Friis Holm La Dalia, Nicaragua: satisfying mouthfeel, soft and mellow yet profound. shares similar leathery/woody (tobacco?) flavor as the other Nicaraguans, great.
Definite Chocolate, Dominican Republic: A soft herbal flavor, almost minty, balanced with some bitterness. I wouldnt call it particularly fruity [like the notes], but black tea taste for sure is applicable. interesting!
Moka Origins, Tanzania: sweet, I agree it has a cherry like fruitiness. straightforward and enjoyable.
Mission Chocolate, Brazil: deep, luscious, vivid. Musky undertone, like mushroom, with a molasses flavor.
A. Morin Porcelana, Venezuela: Fruity, roasty, nutty, floral, woody... All perfectly balanced, another banger by A Morin.
Soma Arcana, blend: Airy and light flavor, but not in a watered down way. No bitterness. Like sweet cream or toasted marshmallow. Theres a strong "browned butter" element, but I dont notice any fruitiness [like in the tasting notes]
Honestly its hard to pick favorites even, I feel like I want to mention a few of the 3/4s that maybe could be 4s: Rozsavolgyi Naked Cocoa, Peru was a very great execution of a creamy, rounded, milky straightforward chocolate experience, like drinking a cup of hot chocolate. beautiful packing and design. The Mirzam, Tanzania was really nice for a mild, airy, slightly sweed and non domineering flavor, possibly verging on vanilla. ALL of the Chocolat Madagascar were really great, beautiful mouthfeel, leaning more towards classic chocolate as opposed to anything exotic or distinct. I will say I was disappointed by Amadei Toscano Black, Blend, and Varlhona Araguani, Venezuela, which I thought were highly regarded in the chocolate world. And although Goodnow Farms, Peru, had a interesting distinct flavor, I dont think it was as good as all the awards that it seems to have won. How about the extremely expensive To'ak ones? They were really good tbh, with pretty accurate notes, but I cant justify the cost. Seems mostly to be marketing. As mentioned earlier, I did not like Ora that much at all. Baiani, Brazil was interesting for its distinctness (spearmint?) albeit chalky and watered down flavor.
If I had to pick 5 absolute favorites overall to recommend, that show a good variety of the cacao spectrum, shewww.... Maybe Pralus, Momotombo, A Morin Guemon, Original Beans and Soma Arcana. IDK, maybe throw in one of the extremely sweet ones too if you like that.
Conclusion
Millcreek Cacao, Conexion, Qantu, Akesson's, The Organic House, Raaka, Cacao Hunters, Valrhona Araguani, Momotombo, Domori, Auro Saloy, Original Beans, Francois Pralus, Cacaoteca, Baiani, Zotter Labooko, Belvie Black Diamond, Amadei Toscano, Firetree, Fresco, Maison Bonnat, Dandelion, A. Morin, Fruition, Firetree, Chocolat Madagascar, Friis Holm, Definite Chocolate, Goodnow Farms, Fjak, Moka origins, Chocolarder, Mirzam, Marana, Rozsavolgyi, Ritual, Mission, Letterpress, Marou, Soma, To'ak, Ora.
Be aware that https://thechocolatetherapystore.shop is a fraudulent site and is not authorized to sell the classes and products of the makers mentioned on this site. There is a legitimate store at https://thechocolatetherapystore.com that should not be confused with the .shop site. Save yourself the time, effort and frustration of not dealing with the fraudsters at the .shop site. They are breaking international copyright law.
Since the pandemic uk chocolate just doesnt taste the same and not due to getting covid but due to a change in the recipe. I first noticed having a toblerone it didnt taste as rich....then cadburys my god Cadbury has a cheap almost american taste. Galaxy feels plasticy now and it follows onto ice cream cornettos are empty and tastless i feel like foods just worse i know this is a choc community so i wont even get started on turkey drummers !!!!!!!!! Is it just me that thinks this???
I’ve been thinking about this a lot recently. If a bag of chocolate chips is cheaper than a chocolate bar, surely it’d make more sense to buy the bag of chocolate chips and snack on them whenever I want. Wouldn’t that make more sense?
Whether fruit, cake-pops, or whatever, i need the easiest way to apply non-pareils on dipped chocolate, as i've never had much luck with candy or cookie decorating. They don't come out too professional.
Hopefully a way wherein the non-pareils wouldn't melt due to the warmth of the melted chocolate.
Specifically is there a video that doesn't involve inserting sprinkles in silicone molds?
Thanks.
I've been eating the pre-wrapped 86% squares for the last 10+ years. However, now I can't find them in stores, and they show as out of stock on Ghirardelli's web site and Amazon. Anyone know if they are still being sold?
It looks like the full bars are still available, but really prefer the pre-wrapped squares. Are there any other good pre-wrapped squares brands?
How do people feel about Heidel chocolate. I believe it’s located in Saxony. Seems like it’s somewhat scarce in the US except around holiday times. Most of their bars are Christmas and Easter themed. I think it is truly the best chocolate I’ve ever had. Anyone have experience?
Who makes/has the best malted milk balls? Ideally, I'd like to pick them up at a store versus order them online.
I prefer not too much chocolate (no double dipped) and more malty.
Has anyone tried doing this with their nibs? I’ve seen a few bars advertised as being aged in a used bourbon barrel. I’ve looked into small 5 or 10 gallon barrels as I’m just a hobbyist chocolate maker doing 1-2 kilo batches. These barrels run in the $100 to $200 range plus shipping. The other idea I had was to use bourbon barrel smoking chips just added to a container. One thing I worry about with this method would be possible contamination with the wood from the outside part of the barrel introducing bacteria.
Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated
My favorite episodes of PodSaveChocolate feature an interview and tasting with a chocolate maker and/or chocolatier.
This past Tuesday (the 28th), I spent an hour with Tandy discussing her background, how she came to found Embers, and more – and tasting five bars:
Here’s the link to the post for the episode – the archived video is on YouTube, Facebook, and LinkedIn.
If you are a chocolate maker or chocolatier and are interested in being featured in an interview/tasting episode of PodSaveChocolate – DM/PM me.
For small makers, there is no charge other than sending me whatever you want to taste during the interview. (For larger companies there is a modest fee to help pay for the hosting and related costs.)
I’m new to truffle making. Tempering chocolate and holding a constant temperature over time is difficult. I’ve seen some melting pots for sale but it’s difficult to determine how well these machines bring the chocolate to temperature then cool by seeding and how long they maintain a constant temperature? How accurate are these machines?I would prefer 2 pots for white and dark. Can anyone recommend a warming pot or machine for under $300? Thanks!
What's the easiest way of chopping a big block of cocoa butter? This takes so much time and I was just wondering how would other people go about it? Give me some ideas please
I reached out to /r/candymakers for advice on how to make chocolate bars as a beginner. Not from scratch, I feel like making them from cocoa beans seems really time consuming. Someone told me to use chocolate melts before I start to get into "true chocolate", then I was told that's terrible advice because it's not actually chocolate. They recommended Calabeut chocolate callets.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DGXLEGW?psc=1&smid=ASBG6UVTMWDAY&ref_=chk_typ_quicklook_titleToDp
This is what I ended up getting. I replied to their post asking if I need to temper this and I never got a response. I just want to be positive on whether I have to temper this or if I can just melt it and pour it.
Hello everybody! Has anyone used any of the Amoretti spreads as a filling for bonbons? If you did, did you add anything to the spread? It’s very rich. I was thinking of adding either a salted pecan crunch or a browned butter ganache layer to cut the sweetness a little. Any suggestions? Thank you!
I really miss the Mars Delight bar but they have discontinued it a while back. Is there a way of trying to bring it back? Also what you’re thoughts on this particular chocolate, is there a chocolate bar that you would like to come back that no longer been sold.
Hello chocolate pals! I have some Amoretti brand cinnamon bun spread. I would like to use it for a bon bon filling. Would I just use it as is? Or do you think I should mix it with something. It’s quite rich. I was thinking maybe a layer of the spread, then a layer of brown butter ganache. Any suggestions are welcome! Thank you in advance!