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A community for those interested in the history of China and the various peoples of China. Discussion, discoveries and debates are all welcome.

Do you have a question about Chinese history? Feel free to post it here!

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Who recived courtesy names?

Im aware that men when they come if age recieve courtesy names and sometimes women after their marriage. However I'm not sure if this applies to only nobles or wealthy families or to your average citizen. What about princes? Enthroned princes get an equilent of a courtesy name but is this through all or most Dynasties? For convience this is around Sui-Tang dynsasty. I would like to get another opinion since Google isn't goving me one lol.

3 Comments
2024/04/22
20:00 UTC

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Documentaries on boxer rebellion ?

Does anyone know any good documentaries on the boxer rebellion - I don't have Amazon or Apple plus

1 Comment
2024/04/19
21:41 UTC

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Tiaping Rebellion

Anyone have a strong recommendation for a book about the Tiaping Rebellion? Looking for a good overview that's just the facts, without any political spin or any attempt to advance novel theories.

Thanks!

11 Comments
2024/04/19
03:54 UTC

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Recommend books on the earliest eras of China! (Xia, Shang, Zhou).

Both the Cambridge and Harvard history series start with the Qin. Want something covering the eras earlier than that.

4 Comments
2024/04/17
11:50 UTC

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Can you recommend me some good books that cover the history of China from 1911 to 1976 ?

I'm mainly interested in Kuomintang and Maoist China.

3 Comments
2024/04/17
09:47 UTC

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Any cool facts on the background of 紅樓夢?

I'm doing a compare+contrast presentation on it with real history, anything will help.

10 Comments
2024/04/15
23:56 UTC

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How different were regional Chinese characters from each other prior to Qin unification?

Not sure how true but it's my understanding that during the Warring States period, different states had characters that looked slightly different from each other.

The logographic nature of them with radical-phonic composition was already in place but different states would for example borrow a different radical or a different phonic in their characters for the same word, and that we only ended up with the standardisation that we do because the Qin empire won and forced everybody else to use their characters.

So I guess my question is: just how different were these regional differences? Were they more or less mutually intelligible to each other and so the differences were more superficial, or were the characters very different and that in fact some were not even square for example?

Was Qin standardisation very determinative for the characters that we ended up with? Or would we have ended up with something similar no matter which state had won the war?

2 Comments
2024/04/15
23:06 UTC

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Did peasants in ancient China know how to write their own names? And if they don't and for some reason they need to write one, what do they write? Do make one up that sounds like it?

2 Comments
2024/04/15
20:47 UTC

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Why would the Han Dynasty be calling Rome Daqin?

I'm not super familiar with Chinese history, I'm a Greece/Rome person, but I'm researching about Roman-Chinese interactions and find it curious that they call Rome Daqin. My very shaky knowledge suggests that they wouldn't be calling themselves Qin during the Han Dynasty, when they got information on Rome, so the usage seems odd to me.

33 Comments
2024/04/15
19:59 UTC

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Thoughts on this film? Just finished it and thought it was excellent.

4 Comments
2024/04/14
06:35 UTC

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Is their a detailed book on Chinas' cultural revolution?

So I wanted to learn about Chinas' cultural revolution, how it was done, etc

Edit: *there

2 Comments
2024/04/13
05:14 UTC

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Family Tree of all Liu-surname Emperors, from the Western Han to the Southern Han [OC]

4 Comments
2024/04/13
02:18 UTC

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Oldest Chinese warfare fought with literal sticks and stones. True?

So in 2020-2021 I used to actively keep up with Xiran Jay Zhao. I recall in one of their videos (forgot which one, but if I remember or find it again I'll update), they mention something about records of entire wars fought with nothing but wooden staffs or something like that.

I wanna say it was before even the Xia Dynasty, probably before metalwork became widespread at all, but that's because that just makes the most sense to me.

This sounds really fascinating but alas, my googling isn't good enough. Any leads on where I can look into this?

9 Comments
2024/04/11
21:59 UTC

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What mobility aids were available to people who had trouble walking or couldn't walk in the Qing Dynasty?

I was thinking about this the other day and realized I had no idea. I assume people used canes and didn't have as wide a range of aids as we do today (no idea when/where the wheelchair was invented), but was there anything else that people used? How did people take care of people who couldn't walk well? Are there any historical/literary mentions of people being unable to walk?

If someone could point me toward some sources, I'd be very appreciative!

Edit: The wheelchair was invented in 1595 in Spain

6 Comments
2024/04/11
01:43 UTC

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When old Chinese sources called someone has red hair and green or blue eyes, did they really mean the red hair and green/blue eyes?

Chinese sources have called Yenisei Kyrgyz were red haired and green eyed, and Muqan Khagan was red haired as well. But when I was talking about this other day with someone, she said

I read somewhere that Chinese considered anything remotely lighter than black as being blonde or reddish, because black hair is so overwhelmingly common among the Han ethnic group.

So what is the case?

15 Comments
2024/04/09
09:45 UTC

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水滸傳 novel question

In the novel 水滸傳 is there actually a reference to 'taking from the rich, to nourish the poor' (劫富濟貧) or something similar?

I thought there was a somewhat famous term, but I can't seem to find it.

1 Comment
2024/04/07
16:32 UTC

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Graphic art made by me on Etsy and Redbubble of Zheng Yi Sao

0 Comments
2024/04/06
18:09 UTC

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Recommend a Sino-centric history of East Asia?

I would like to get a very broad overview of East Asian history with an emphasis on how it relates to China. I’m not so much wanting a history of China as a history of other countries in the context of China. Can anyone provide me with recommendations, if not of the region as a whole, then at least in terms of individual countries?

Lest my request seem like a slight to other countries, all I can say is that life is short and my reading list is already too long and I have to prioritize! Much as I would like to learn about China’s neighbors in their own terms, I very much need to focus.

4 Comments
2024/04/06
13:09 UTC

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I need a Chinese speaking history enthusiast for archery research

I am doing a research about archery overdrawing device called majra/nâvek/tongah, I know it exist somewhere in Chinese archery culture also. But I cannot read Chinese at all. Can someone help me how to search for the right terms and where to search for?

2 Comments
2024/04/06
10:24 UTC

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Who in Chinese History are you most like and who is your favourite character in Chinese History?

I know I'm repeating myself a bit 😅

And you can do multiple

I'm most like Wu Zetian, Liu Bei, Cao Cao

Favorite people: Yang Jian, Zhu Yuanzhang, Li Shimin, Lu Buwei, Chai Rong, Zhu Wen

Additional question (You don't have to answer): When you see the words "Song Dynasty", what are the first five things you think of?

For me: Kaifeng (Formerly Bianjing, the capital of the Song), Jiankang Incident (not that well known), Zhao Kuangyin/Emperor Taizu, Zhao Shen/Emperor Xiaozong, Battle of Caishi

EDIT: For some reason my mom says I'm a little bit like Genghis Khan

9 Comments
2024/04/06
04:05 UTC

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The book Xuanfeng qinghui lu. Where is it? Any English translations or resources?

Hello!

I'm looking for the book of Xuanfeng qinghui lu, in which Ghengis Khan and the Taoist Qiu Chuji have their philosophical conversations.

On another note, I remember reading that Qiu Chuji kept a diary of some form, noting down the peculiarities of his travels as he crossed vast parts of Asia. Are there any resources on this?

Thank you!

2 Comments
2024/04/04
17:10 UTC

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Copyright in Chinese History

So, I was reading about copyright on wikipedia and it looks like first copyright beigin in Britain 18th century.

But considering that China have been intellectual country, with lots of writers, scholars and quite high literacy.

Were there copyright in China ?

For example, did Luo Guanzhong earn money from Rot3K ?

If not, why did all those writers wrote classics such as water margin, Rot3K etc

6 Comments
2024/04/03
23:13 UTC

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Would it have been okay for a foreign man in Qing Dynasty China to wear a Hanfu?

From what I have heard the Qing Dynasty closing and hairstyle was only required for men and that women were still allowed to wear hanfu, but would it have been okay for a non Chinese man to wear a hanfu? Or would he still be forced to wear the buttoned up shirt and the queue hairstyle?

1 Comment
2024/04/03
04:02 UTC

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Translations of Sima Qian?

Hey, just wondering if there are any translations of the Shiji other than the 1961 one by Burt Watson. I have a copy available but all of the words use Wade–Giles, which renders a lot of my background knowledge useless (For example, I spent several minutes trying to figure out who Chang Erh is). And for a lot of these words there is nothing on the internet to help. Am I just screwed unless I learn more Chinese?

14 Comments
2024/04/03
01:06 UTC

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Looking for help interpreting embroidered patch similar to a Buzi (Rank Badge)

I was wondering if anyone knew who might have worn such a badge as this and any information on it in general. It contains a Crane that would signify a 1st rank Buzi, but the bird isn't centered and there are other animals (deer, butterfly, and aquatic creature?) that wouldn't work in a traditional rank badge. I assume this is Qing era due to the age of the fabric and overall quality of the work. Thanks for taking a look - I appreciate it. - Cheers, Jeff

0 Comments
2024/04/01
01:46 UTC

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