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A place for people to discuss the world of cheese making.

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Resources


Cultures & Equipment:

The Cheesemaker Steve at The Cheesemaker is quick to turn orders around with free shipping and offers helpful & prompt answers to questions.

The Beverage People The Beverage People have a few cultures and pieces of equipment that The Cheesemaker does not. Also offers prompt shipping, especially on cultures.

Cheesemaking.com Originally created by Ricki Carroll, they sell cultures and equipment, as well as cheesemaking kits for newbs, with plenty of information for beginners.

Artisan Geek

Glengarry Cheesemaking A Canadian supplier of cultures and cheesemaking equipment, but when you order from the U.S. they ship from a New York facility, so you won’t have to pay international shipping charges.

Milk:

Cheesemaking's Good Milk list Cheesemaking.com keeps a comprehensive list of sources for raw and vat pasteurized (not ultra-heat pasteurized) milk appropriate for cheese makers. They're also a supplier of cultures and equipment.

Articles and Recipes:

Curd Nerd Curd Nerd is a source for articles, recipes and troubleshooting guides. Check out the article on cultivating your own blue cheese mold.

Cheese Forum A great resource for articles, troubleshooting and recipes.

Books:

Mastering Basic Cheesemaking- Gianaclis Caldwell

The Basics of Cheesemaking- Paul S. Kindstedt Free resource

Cheesemaking Practice- R. Scott, Richard K. Robinson, R. Andrew Wilbey 1981

Fundamentals of Cheese Science - Patrick Fox

Home Cheese Making - Ricki Carroll Clear, concise recipes, designed for the home setting.

Artisan Cheesemaking at Home - Mary Karlin A nicely laid out cookbook with plenty of photography, and an extensive collection of recipes organized by difficulty from the easiest cheeses (quesos, ricottas, paneers etc) to the most challenging (blues, washed rinds, etc).

Cheese and Fermented Milk Foods - Frank Kosikowski This two-volume set is the “bible” of cheesemaking for many. Kosikowski was the founder of the American Cheese Society and these textbooks, while they will often go over your head scientifically and are intended for the large-scale cheesemaking operation it makes for a good window into the American cheese industry.

Troubleshooting:

A good resource to see what went unexpectedly during your cheese make


Rules:

1) Post about cheese making

2) Be civil

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Hi! I wish to make Butterkase as my first aged cheese, but in my country it is hard to find cultures mentioned in most recipes . Are any of these cultures valid for Butterkase and if so how much should I use? Is GC necessary or will I miss out on flavor/protection? (New England Cheesemaking recipe)

6 Comments
2024/12/02
01:58 UTC

103

Oh what a difference a bit of fat makes!

The cheese on the left is the drying Asiago Fresco that I posted on Thursday. The one on the right is an extra hard Italian-style grating cheese I made yesterday, still brining. Both use four gallons of milk from the same two cows milked two days apart. The cheese on the left is four gallons of full fat raw milk with a bit of cream added. The cheese on the right is made with four gallons of hand skimmed raw milk. Of course the make and recipes are different between the two, but the difference in yield is striking. Just thought it was interesting!

16 Comments
2024/12/01
22:13 UTC

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Mould on havarti

I made Havarti a week ago, I've had it in food safe container in the cheese cave for 7 days now. I have been flipping the cheese daily, I wash my hands and dry them thoroughly, then splash a little white vinegar on them before handling the cheese. Cut forward to this morning, day 7, when I went to flip the cheese I found dark, blackish mould on the cheese. I rinsed it off with some water, patted it dry with paper towels then rubbed some rine solution over it to help. I then cleaned the container and put some brine solution around it as well. No idea what I'm actually meant to do though.

Is it normal that havarti will mould while ageing in the cheese cave? How should I remove mould when it comes up? What should I do to reduce it happening?

I didn't have my phone on me when out happened so I don't have photos.

4 Comments
2024/11/30
22:07 UTC

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Inconvenient timing

I started way too early on a blue cheese, resulting in the curd under a cheeseboard and light pressure at 3pm. Recipe I use says to leave like this 'overnight' but that would now be 18 hours before salting and putting in a mold. Or I do it at midnight, so just 9 hours for acid development?

I have been working on this receipt lately and it seems that leaving it too long at this stage results in a drier crumbly blue, 10-12 seemed to give a more creamy result but limited sample size so far. Should I cut it short?

10 Comments
2024/11/30
07:53 UTC

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Question about boiling milk in my instant pot

I’ve made ricotta cheese in my instant pot for years. I always hit the yogurt button twice and the word boil would pop up. I replaced the instant pot a couple months ago but the settings looked the same. Today I hit the yogurt twice but nothing happened. Any idea where the boil might be hiding?

3 Comments
2024/11/29
21:21 UTC

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Very acified whey and milk

What if you have very acid whey and cream on top and curds - like years old? It doesn't have to be a food application. I left a jar expensive sheeps milk in back of fridge. Instead of tossing it, I was thinking there have got to be good uses for it. I know fermenting veggies is one, but that only uses a little. I used it diluted as hair conditioner before but won't do that often because of potentially smelling like whey.

1 Comment
2024/11/29
19:15 UTC

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Asiago out of the press on Thanksgiving day

Needs to sit in the mold for a couple of days at 75-80 degrees Fahrenheit to acidify before the brine bath.

19 Comments
2024/11/29
00:21 UTC

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Tomme-style Troubles. Pics in post

Hi, I'm a newer cheesemaker. This is my first tomme-style cheese and first natural rind type.

-I used 1 gal pasturized milk (didn't want to waste 2 gal if it didn't work) -made Nov 3, brined Nov 4, cheese cave Nov 7, re-brined Nov 10, -have washed it lightly in brine (water, salt, sugar, a piece of rind from delicious alpine cheese, dont hate on me for that last one).

Issues I'm having:

  1. Cheese is tacky - it wept whey for a couple days after making and brining. Never really developed a solid rind, it feels more like dried feta, but is closed knit and firm.
  2. Lack of good mold but have weird mold??(or bacteria or yeast) growth on rind. Maybe because of 1.

I made a second tomme-style with 2 gallons after I thought this was a fail. The rind is much drier and starting to grow white fuzz.

Can this be saved? Is it even edible. I have a vac sealer if needed. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks

https://preview.redd.it/qdxloh9ykh3e1.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5db02b08df631a0dddc827c91c8dd0612c9e46a5

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11 Comments
2024/11/27
18:18 UTC

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Drying stage of soft cheese (Robiolini)

Struggling to get my conditions both cool and dry enough to properly dry out the surfaces of my robiolini. Can anyone anticipate any bad results if I upped the temperature? Unclear on the issues re: the culture development. Using the NEC recipe. Thanks in advance!

6 Comments
2024/11/27
12:53 UTC

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Simplest alternative to cheddar?

As cheddar is quite an advanced cheese to make, what cheese is slightly simpler e.g. no aging but could be a reasonable stand in for cheddar? I.e something with a reasonable flavour, enough flavour for a non aged and simpler to make cheese?

8 Comments
2024/11/27
12:48 UTC

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First time cheeser - Aging area for Brie

Hi

Short version: Where do you age your cheese?

Long version:

I love hobbies. Todays hobby is cheesemaking and I've set myself the quest to make a brie over Christmas. I have a fistfull of dollars (actually UK pounds, but it doesn't sound as cool) and am buying the bits I need.

My question is this. I need to age the brie, as is the case with most cheeses, under certain conditions. The recipies I have are mainly in F's, but if you convert them to Centigrade, then I'm looking at aging in a room somewhere between 10 to 15 degrees C (52 ish F) with about 95% relative humidity. The temperature is fine, but I can't think where in the house I might that type of temperature but with a relative humidity that high.

Thought about the fridge, but probably too low. The garage is the right temp, but it's not consistently controllable.

Any thoughts?

Olly

8 Comments
2024/11/27
08:57 UTC

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please post a recipe to make bocconcini cheese

First time cheese making, please guide me.

4 Comments
2024/11/27
07:16 UTC

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Forgot to add penicillium and geo cultures to triple creams! Can I save it??

Help! I was distracted by my kids while culturing my bloomy rind triple cream cheeses (recipe by Give Cheese a Chance) and I added the culture (homemade clabber), but not the penicillium and geo cultures 🤦‍♀️ I didn’t realize it until after I had finished filling the draining forms. Is there any way to save the cheese and inoculate it after they are drained?

Or if there is no way to get the white bloom now…what do I do with these two cheeses?? I used 10L of milk/cream so I really don’t want to waste it 🙈

19 Comments
2024/11/26
16:36 UTC

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Cheddar Safe to Eat?

This is my second attempt at farmhouse cheddar, using this recipe. With this one, the only things I did that were different than the recipe was leave the curd and whey for about 2 hours instead of 20-40 minutes because something came up, and I ended up pressing it for more time than it said.

I saw a previous post asking about holes, so I wanted to check here to see if the cheese is ok to eat. If not, what happened? I really don't know what I'm doing here!

https://preview.redd.it/8edqvrovh93e1.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=114d62e28a19ce700a554fba659a6f098cedb777

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11 Comments
2024/11/26
15:09 UTC

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Are there any professional cheese maker machines for your home?

Hello :D

I started making my own cheese two weeks ago. But now, I am starting questioning my procedures and want to do it more professional/simple/automated. I am looking for a cheese making machine, like the Brezilla for making beer. Does somebody of you know, if there is a machine like the one I mentioned?

And if not, are there any cool Raspberry pi projects?

8 Comments
2024/11/26
05:22 UTC

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Gouda beginning to dry

9 Comments
2024/11/25
19:10 UTC

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Cheesemaking Software ready for use

Hi r/cheesemaking

As I mentioned a few weeks ago, we have been building Batch Radar specifically for professional cheesemakers to make it easier for you to track your batches and ensure adherence to your compliance policies.

We are wanting to ensure that the software meets the needs of professional cheesemakers and so if any of you would like to sign up for a free trial and provide some feedback that would be awesome!

You can sign up at https://batchradar.com/auth/signup with no credit card required.

I would be very happy to walk any of you through a demo of the product if interested.

5 Comments
2024/11/25
08:13 UTC

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Can I age brie in my "cellar" without wrapping it?

Hi all, I'm new to brie making and was wondering if it always needs to be wrapped for aging after the initial rind forms or can it be aged with the rind naturally exposed at the appropriate temp & humidity (50F & 80%rh) for long-term?

5 Comments
2024/11/24
18:22 UTC

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Caraway Colby

This cheese came out wonderfully! I’m proud of this one.

7 Comments
2024/11/24
00:08 UTC

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Is my cheese safe?

I recently stumbled upon the idea of preserving cheese by rinsing it with vinegar and then waxing it. I know I'm not actually making my own cheese but I'm hoping the community can help

It's been about a month, and out of the 24 bricks I waxed, 4 of them (all the same type, new York extra sharp cheddar) have puffed up a bit. I cut 2 of them open, one that seemed to hold the air when I squeezed it, and another which hissed a bit and deflated. Neither one has visible mold, but both were kind of moist. I dont have a sense of smell, but can add that to the report shortly as I have a friend coming over.

A quick Google has me worried about botulism. I'm comfortable cutting off some mold (altho there is none) but I'm wary of them helping me with a smell test and then a taste test.

Since my only warning sign was the puffed wax (minor, and i may have created the leak in the second one when I squeezed it) and the moisture, are these safe or should they be discarded? I've read that most cheese will leak whey, but none of the others have this same symptom.

I thought I had a pretty good handle on everything until I came across the botulism results. I've washed my hands twice since then but im wondering how dangerous of a situation I may be finding myself in.

Thanks!

EDIT: She says it just smells like cheese, no abnormal odors or anything

16 Comments
2024/11/23
23:07 UTC

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Pink Bloomy Rind Hearts

I wanted to make some cute hearts for the Christmas cheese board and decided to make them pink (because why not). I used a camembert recipe and added beet juice tea (a grated beet boiled in water, strained then cooled) to the milk when I added calcium chloride. The colour has faded quite a bit but they are a beautiful velvety pink right now.

I had to stack them because I got very flat camembert from the forms...but maybe it's also my curd. If anyone has advice there, I'm all ears.

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2 Comments
2024/11/23
19:25 UTC

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belper knolle ready for aging

stoked to check on these in a couple weeks!

8 Comments
2024/11/23
19:24 UTC

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PH meter recommendations needed

Hi everyone, I’m a beginner cheese maker, just for fun and because we love cheese. I have some basic equipment already, but I’m looking into buying a ph meter. What do you recommend? Digital or paper strip? I’m based in Europe. Thanks in advance!

3 Comments
2024/11/23
18:34 UTC

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