In one of Phil Hine's books, Condensed Chaos I think, he suggests practising spells with intentions you have no emotional connection to at all. Things like, see a woman with red hair wearing a blue dress, see a man in a blue suit carrying a dog, and so on. This is so you can practise while avoiding lust of results.

I've been regularly trying this for probably close to a year and a half now - and haven't gotten anywhere.

I mean, it has worked a few times. But not enough to say it was me doing it and not just random chance.

Have you ever tried this, and more importantly, can you do it?

If so, can you do it consistently?

What do you think of this approach to practice in general?

Hey there, Noobie here. I’m curious if anyone could explain of the different beings of elder gods, what they do, what is there purpose, and if possible, could we communicate and/or bargain with them?

Newbie, so I'm unconfident in my abilities. If possible I'd like something with the effects could be readily confirmed so I'd know its working. Thanks

I've reread theory for years, partially because I'm intimidated by intentional ritual and partly because the theory and paradigms shifts and avenues for personal development are what interest me most about magick.

I've also been very careful and slow in developping my practice because I know even as a child I was playing with 'perception', which lead to mental illness and episodes of psychosis as a teenager (I was realizing things about reality that I could not yet handle). So I know I have looser grip on what 'reality' is to begin with. I've gotten used to swimming through nothingness and coming out the other end over time so with my current experience I don't think this is a genuine danger anymore, I am confident that I know how to walk the edge, but I still feel nervous to actually do any magick.

This would be all fine, nothing wrong with not practicing if I don't want to, except I've been plateau-ing in my personal development. And I know I need to incorporate more intention and ritual to acheive what I want in life. Now I'm not thinking as expansively or coming up with new ideas of how to perceive existence and I don't understand the magickal texts I read, it all just floats on the surface of me without penetrating in any meaningful way. I think I need to practice something to understand, just like I can't just read a book about math, I have to actually practice solving math problems to get it.

I want to actually do magick, but I feel a sort of, spiritual laziness? Intimidation? Fear? I keep procrastinating it. I'm not even kidding I've procrastinated doing a ritual for over two years now. At this point I'm frozen without knowing where to start, yet I'm reading something occult related every day. I almost want to create a servitor that exists to urge me into practing more magickal thinking...but also I'm sure something like that might have crazy repurcussions, but maybe that's what I need. I wish I knew what to do here! I want to take the leap but I just can't. I don't even know what to do. I don't even know what I want (please don't tell me to journal, I journal four pages every morning, my desires are mostly same every day and always something vaguely artistic and flexible, or i ruminate about sex and then i ruminate about the horrible painful state of the world and my powerlesness to actually help it).

I'm self aware (or lacking so much self awareness i can't even tell the difference), I just don't want anything specific enough to do a ritual for. Or I want something that magick cannot help me for, like world that is fair and kind and not constantly undergoing extreme ecological damage!

ALso as I want to engage in magickal practice but I feel so conflicted... even as I look into the history of popular texts a lot of these magicians and writers were awful people by my worldview... I believe in uplifting humanity...I don't want to follow occult practices based in something that feels wrong to me (for example, you are free to disagree as you abide by own moral perceptions not mine, but the appropriation of kabbalah to hermetic qabbalah doesn't sit right to me, Crowley basing spiritual practice off Jewish mysticism while actively also writting against jewish faith and supporting their persecution, to me practices carry memory, to me such a practice is stained with blood, maybe I will change my mind). But also, it is pretty much impossible to find a spiritual or magickal system that is not, historically at some point or another, stained with blood. I think this is the nature of the power that is linked to both religion and spiritual practices, or maybe the result of when anything nestles so close to so much power, abuse is bound to happen eventually.

--------Does anybody else have these same internal battles? How do you manage it? I feel like I can never learn enough to be certain of truth, so the best one can do is be well-intentioned with the knowledge available to them, but what if my biases of what I wish was true lead me to only seek out information that affirms the truth that I want? --I'm sure affirming the truth I want to exist is useful in magickally enacting my will-- but what about when what I wish was historical truth harms another person? What are my responsibilities then? These are questions I know I can never really answer but are burning me up today and are important to discuss.

Hello

Im new to chaos magick but i praticed for 4 years ceremonial magick.

What is your daily routine?

Which rituals do you perform everyday?

Thanks a lot

“Cardboard Boxism”

I invented this style of magical practice off of the original Marvel versus DC miniseries that resulted in the creation of the Amalgam Comics. In the miniseries, if I remember, a homeless person with duct tape utilized a cardboard box to prevent the universes from collapsing, to hold all of reality together. Every time there was a rip in reality, it showed on the cardboard box, and he taped it up.

The oft-studied Placebo Affect, wherein a neutral stimulus elicits a significant nervous system response, is the main kind of research which informs the direction of cardboard boxism. The practitioner may build an actual magical altar out of a cardboard box. The point is to take something mundane, and utilize it to inspire as much as possible of an internal emotio-sensory reaction, or a reaction of an immunity to allergens… anything that can happen because of placebo. The practitioner attempts to minimize the stimulus necessary to, for instance, inflame the imagination.

I always really did have a cardboard box altar. 

While I was administering a system of self-initiation I designed by engaging in spontaneous writing, I discovered God in a cigarette butt. The whole time I tested the system of initiation, I was using just a cardboard box and my imagination. 

Cardboard boxism eventually resulted in an enormous dump of pride (I lost almost all my pride), and an objectless state of love that transcends fear, hatred, and sorrow. I don’t know about synchronicity manipulation, but I’m a happier person for having tested the system on myself.

The founding document (Discordian comedy, mostly) that led to the discovery of this system of initiation, for those interested in exploring further, can be located on reddit here: https://www.reddit.com/r/discordian/comments/1gpea1x/the_orthodox_individuate_bible_a_discordian_cults/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button with a link to the initiations in the comments.

That is, do I have to do mundane things for the spell to work? Isn't the spell supposed to solve everything at once?

If you cast a love spell on a woman, would you still have to do normal things to make her like you?

I don't know if I have a rather childish view of magic.

How do yall get ideas? I'm new to this. I wanna create a ritual to become happy. Also another one to become horny. Lol.

Just made a ritual to give me the abilities of the sharingan from Naruto. Working with pop culture egregors seems to be the way to go in my opinion since hardly anyone remembers the cool old gods like Baal, Dagon, or Asherah.

So essentially bit by bit I'll have better vision and the ability to mess with people's perception. So.... Here's hoping.

Tenho muita intenção de aprender magia do caus mais não sei por onde começar

Gostaria de fzr um grupo ou uma dupla para estudar a magia ou alguém que me ajude

when making a sigil to make a servitor, do you use the word “servitor” in sigil making or do you write the servitor’s purpose to make the sigil?

Hello! I'm new here, relatively new to magical practices in general, having only some experience with mentalism and some specific things that I've been through. But in search of something that aligned with what I'm looking for and have a certain affinity for, I found chaos magic and became quite interested. The point is: I've been recommended these two books by Peter J. Caroll to introduce me to Chaoism, but what background would I need to have to leave them with fewer doubts than when I entered? In this field, it's difficult to find any knowledge, even initial, that doesn't need the support of other knowledge because of symbols, vocabulary, etc. So I would like recommendations of books that are essential before reading these two, or even a YouTube channel that can help me read them more efficiently, with a "north" so I don't get lost.

Can I energize a chaos magic sigil using vibrations? If so, how can I accomplish this?

Hey why is no one talking about chaotic behavior. You need delusion to communicate with other life form. And extreme chaos in your life has to exist. Wildest shit has to be done if you want wild shit. Chaos should get you some schizo affiliation.

Dont get lost in books with rules. Chaos dont give a fuck about sigil and shit. Well, my opinion. Chaotic behavior is needed at some point.