/r/caucasus
For anything relating to the Caucasus region.
/r/caucasus
Hey guys, I've noticed that the caucasus regions have blessed the world with many great fighters like Golovkin, Madrimov, Klistchko brothers, Khabib , Usyk and many more.
Is there a reason for this? Maybe the culture or the way kids are brought up?
I'm not from this region btw, I'm from Sri Lanka. I'm just curious
Are there many half chechens in Europe? Or do they hide or keep quite because they fear of being mocked?
Is there any Chechens who live in Utah?
Hi What does it mean when a man and a woman dance lezginka? Does it mean that they are a couple? Or developing feeling towards each other? Or what?
what are your thoughts when Jeremy the white American is referred to as "caucasian"
me personally? I hate it. its a blatant misuse of the term and was coined to refer to white people by a racist german scientist.
I think that its modern use degrades our(caucasian) lives, struggles, cultures, history, just everything.
as if caucasian people don't exist and its some ancient term meaning white or something idiotic like that.
Is there any written text/legends of Caucasians (specifically ancestors of the Chechens, Georgians, and Circassians) interacting with Scythians or those nearby (Say maybe Medes, Persians, or Scythians north of the North Caucasus maybe around 500 BC 100 AD)?
Do we know how Scythians and others outside of the Caucasian mountains saw the Caucasians? What were the interactions?
Any source is fine, from Caucausian sources or others.
What are the ingush people perspective on Ossetians
İ want to use the emoji on public or etc. How could i get it?
My video covers the wars in the North and South Caucausus since the collapse of the USSR to the present day and not everything may be perfect in the video.
https://youtu.be/CpiJzBJVWx0?si=eeHd8-lAqmKwr_Kp
Comment what mistakes I did and what I can do to improve
I seem to feel like people from the North Caucasus dislike Georgians. As I frequently see them question whether or not Svans or Mingrelians (Megrelians) should be considered Georgians or whether they consider themselves Georgian. But as far as I know both Svans and Megrelians consider themselves Georgian. And Georgian doesn't seem to have this type of tribalism. It is strange to me to see people from the North Caucasus call for their own united confederation. But seem to object to Georgia having unity.
Another thing they'll say is Lazika and Colchis did not include Abkhazia in their domain or that these entities were Abkhazian and not Georgian.
Another interesting claim I've seen people from the North Caucasus make is that the West Georgians are actually Kartvelized Abkhaz.
There also seems to be debate on the Kingdom of Abkhazia which annexed Western Georgia. The debate stems from whether or not this political entity could be considered. It is known that the Bagration's inherited this Kingdom and would later form Georgia.
We know after this the Shervashidze family were the Eristavis of Sukhumi under Georgia. Sources seem to differ on this, but I am assuming Abkhazia was divided up into 2-3 entities throughout history? I guess further complicated by the Ottomans who occupied the coastal regions?
Even after the feudal fracturing of Georgia when it got divided up into different principalities. It appears that Georgians would still serve in an ecclesiastical function in Abkhazia.
We know the eldest branch of the Shervashidze were heavily Georgianized and the last member of this family died in Kutaisi. We also know the Dadiani's also heavily married into the Shervashidze family. And they'd have disputes over the Samurzakan region.
We now know of the 5 of the 8 Princely families in Abkhazia. Inal-Ipa, Dziapsh-Ipa, Shat-Ipa, Emukhvari and Shervashidze are all paternally related probably within 600 years according to DNA.
There is then the issue of the Circassian Genocide. It seems when looking at the archival records of the 1860's it is clear that Georgians still served in an ecclesiastical function in Abkhazia during this time. It also appears people with Mingrelian names also lived in Abkhazia during this period. But people dispute this and claim these people are Abkhaz with Mingrelian surnames.
It appears starting in the 1880's Georgians from throughout Georgia started settling in Abkhazia. This I'm assuming muddied the waters on which of these Georgians were original inhabitants. When it is pointed out that Mingrelians and Svans seem to be long time inhabitants of this region. Some point out these groups should not be considered Georgian. But I don't understand this logic, were Svans and Mingrelians not victims of the genocide?
I guess it's also muddied by the fact that the Georgians burned down the Abkhazian archives. But it also seems Abkhazians defaced monuments with Georgian frescoes and inscriptions.
The situation in Abkhazia in my opinion is similar to Northern Ireland and Ireland or Scotland with England.
Then there is South Ossetia. According to Georgian sources Ossetians have been living in Java region since 1600. According to Georgian sources the other areas Znaur, Leningor and Tskinvali district didn't have an Ossetian presence until 1800. However Ossetians claim they've been there longer. However just like Abkhazians, Ossetians base a lot of their history on folklore and legends. I've seen many theories presented on this. I've seen one version where Ossetians claim that Ossetians migrated from South Ossetia into North Ossetia. It is also strange that the vast majority of Ossetians have the g2a1 haplogroup. Showing they are paternally related to Georgians a few thousand years ago. Atleast paternally the majority of them seem to be Caucasians, but for some reason insist they are descendants of Nomads.
So, it's clear to me atleast the Znaur, Leningor, Tskinval, Samurzakan districts are clearly Georgian regions. But I guess the waters are muddied with Java and areas north of Samurzakan. If an ethnic minoritiy is the majority of a region for over 400 years, should they be given autonomy if they claim they were not subjugated by the georgian feudal system and were independent?
What about Abkhazia which was originally it's own republic, but later incorporated into the Georgian SSR. I believe this is one of the reasons they dispute. Because legally if this had not been the case I am assuming there would be no problem with them being independent.
What is your view on this?