These countries are between 40 degrees east and 50 degrees and 30 minutes east, that’s geographically UTC +3(from 37,5 east to 52,5 east).

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So im turkish and we will be going to these two countries with a car in the summer. My grandmother is georgian and she said we should visit georgia so here we are. We know english very well and we are planning to stay in each city for 2-3 days and see as many cities as we can in 2 months. So what are your recommendations from both countries? I know there are lots of turkish speaking people in georgia and i dont think i will have a hard time speaking turkish in azerbaijan too. However, it would be great if you guys would recommend me cities that have more english speaking people especially in gerogia.

Hey,
as stated before - I am looking for books about chechen and ingush history, fight for independence and preserving of culture.

Thank you!

https://web.archive.org/web/20220820053441/http://osinform.org/46078-yuzhnaya-osetiya-tirskiy-monastyr.html

I'm just wondering if there is any architecture in South Ossetia that is proven to be Ossetian or built in the Ossetian style. I found this article on the Georgian church of Tiri which is a very well documented Georgian Church with georgian inscriptions (mentioning the machabeli family) and frescos.

But what you'll read below sounds like very strange and elaborate propaganda.

This makes me doubt claims that other infrastructure in South Ossetia are Alanian. But what I find strange is these things seem to be wildly believed by people online.

"Тирский Богородице-Рождественский мужской монастырь у селения Монастыр (с осетинского дословно «большая вера») без преувеличения можно назвать одной из самых значимых святынь Южной Осетии. Эта древняя обитель видела расцвет христианства, образование Аланской митрополии и ее падение. Стены обители видели орды монголо-татар, Тамерлана и прочих завоевателей, огнем и мечом насаждавших ислам.

Начало развития монастыря приходится на XII - XIII век, этот период отмечен рассветом Аланской митрополии. В то время возводилось множество православных храмов и монастырей. Они были сосредоточием духовных и культурных достижений Алании. Именно тогда построен главный храм монастыря. Однако до сих пор на территории монастыря остались древние, высеченные в скале пещерные храмы, которые, вероятно, относятся к VI веку.

Тир – библейское наименование в переводе означает скала. И действительно это впечатляющее произведение архитектуры наполовину вырублено в скале. Монастырь был украшен в интерьере живописью и шедеврами прикладного искусства, составляющими церковный инвентарь, обладал рукописными книгами, там звучала церковная музыка. К сожалению, до нас дошли лишь часть фресковой живописи церковно-канонического содержания, по технике исполнения, безусловно, византийского стиля, отличающиеся прекрасным рисунком и ярким колоритом.

В 1811 году монастырь был преобразован в приход, а все имущество распродано. Прилегающие к монастырю земли были куплены грузинской фамилией Канделаки. Однако вскоре они были вытеснены Котаевыми – сохранилась купчая грамота, свидетельствующая о покупке ими земель у Канделаки. Причиной тому стало то, что грузины держали свиней на святом месте, чего Котаевы, родовые хранители монастыря, допустить не могли.

Архитектурный комплекс монастыря включает: храм Рождества Пресвятой Богородицы (XII в.) с двумя пределами; колокольню (XVI в.); трапезную (XVI в.). Стены монастырских строений украшены богатой резьбой по камню, в алтаре храма сохранились фрагменты уникальных фресок.

Храм Рождества Пресвятой Богородицы – главное здание монастыря, это зальная церковь, имеющая снаружи прямоугольное очертание. Здание воздвигнуто на двухступенчатом цоколе и перекрыто двускатной кровлей. Внутри храм перекрыт коробовым сводом, с востока имеет вписанную в прямоугольник плана апсиду, и узкую бему. Колокольня стоит в шести метрах от храма и состоит из двух частей – нижнего закрытого куба и верхнего девятигранника. На второй этаж колокольни можно подняться по каменной лестнице; под лестницей устроен арочный проход. Фасады колокольни украшены резным декором, рельефом и фигурами овнов в углах нижнего этажа.
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I would need credible sources and in-depth explanations. It’s for a uni course asignment. Thanks in advance!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_II_of_Abkhazia

The fresco seems to be a fake image and not an actual fresco.

There is no source that identifies this dynasty as Anchabadze. Where did this idea come from? It seems to be a hypothesis by Cyril Toumanoff that Anos I was a member of this family in his 1976 book.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B4%D1%8B

This wikipedia page claims Chkheidze, Eristavi of Racha, Chkotua and Machabeli are paternal descendants of the Anchabadze (Anosids). But this is not supported by DNA evidence.

I can't find the source for this claim

Where did this Anosid theory come from

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inal_the_Great_of_Circassia

Then there's Inal the Great. Where does all this information about him come from? Has DNA testing proven his descendants share a common male ancestor 600 years ago?

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Hey there, We (2) are planning a three weeks trip with a car trough Georgia in Summer, focus is on exploring the nature and hiking. Well also bring a tent with us.

We now have two cars we could take for the same budget, the 4WD Mitsubishi Pajero IO from 2000 or a AWD BMW X3 3.0 from 2008.

Do you have any thoughts on what to pick? Like - what do most of the roads look like? Would you go more for off-road, or convenience?

The Pajero might be more capable and joy off the road, but serious offroading isn't permitted in those rental contracts anyway. The BMW has a bit more luxury, space and power - but could be too rigid for the roads to some beautiful places?

Thank you so much

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Here is how I am attempting to construct it.

I am using these sources:

1. Georgitvsky Treatie 1784
2. History of the Palavandishvili Family 2015 (Lists villages belonging to Palavandishvili in the mid 1600's) [2015]
3. Ruisi Church Census 1715 [1715]
4. Tskinvali and adjacent villages Census Records 1774, 1781, 1788, 1794 and 1799 [1774]
5. Ioane Bagrationis description of surnames

There is a map which shows Palavandishvili fief encompassed all of modern day Znauri district in this book:Ossetian Question 1994 - Akaki Bakradze

There are also:

1.Omar Kilasonia, "Kareli in the Annals of History", volume, 1996

2.Small principalities of Shida Kartli 1999 - Giorgi Otkhmezuri

and maybe others I don't know about

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The Georgitvsky Treatie of 1784 mentions these nobleman (Satavado Aznauri) for Palavandishvili

I will also note if they're mentioned in the other censuses and their villages:

Gogibashvili *1715,1774 Okona (Окона)

Shalbelikishvili *1715 only, Trorbisi (Цорбис) 1715 only

Shalibashvili *1774 only Okona (Окона)

Samarghanishvili *1774 only Atotsi

Khutsiashvili *1715, 1774, Trorbisi (Цорбис) 1715 only**, Ceronisi** 1781 only

Laskhi *1715, 1774, Metekhi (Нарджита) 1715 only , Balta (Балта) 1715, 1774

Nagladze *1715 only Okona (Окона)

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Nobleman (Satavado Aznauri) for Palavandishvili not mention in Georgitvsky Treatie of 1784:

+Nadiradze **1715 only (from 2015 book) **Avnevi (Авнев)

+Lashatishvili *only mentioned in Ioane Bagrationi's book

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Villages in Sapalavando in which Palavandishvili owned, had noblemen, or had peasants and serfs, I will also note if it's mentioned in the 1715 census:

2015 Description of owned villages:

1. Okona (Окона) 42.16777,43.77246, *1774,1715
2. Ceronisi 42.1248,43.77765, *1774,1715
3. Avnevi (Авнев) 42.1913949,43.8720784, *1774,1715
4. Dzagina (Дзагина) 42.2331707,43.7394686, *1774,1715
5. Knolevi 42.1547222,43.7838889, *1774,1715
6. Ojora (Ожора/Оджора) 42.2488889,43.7605556, *1715 only
7. Metekhi (Нарджита) 42.1919444,43.7075 *1715 only
8. Balta (Балта) 42.1834754,43.7099965 *1774,1715
9. Akhalsheni (Ногкау) 42.2263006,43.7700784 *1774,1715
10. Gharistavi (Сиуката) 42.2156246,43.7412203 *1715 only
11. Chorbauli (Чорбаул) 42.17085, 43.87632
12. Mukhauri (Мухаур) 42.24383, 43.73751*1774,1715
13. Bekmari (Бекмар) 42.2464802,43.8092708*1715 only
14. Khundisubani (Азуат) 42.2075585,43.7792811*1774,1715

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Not mentioned in 2015 book but villages where Palavandishvili have noblemen and peasants:

Tormaneuli (Харисджин) 42.2383057,43.8112956**,***1774,1715

Tigva (Тихва/Тигуа) 42.20065,43.76063**,***1774,1715

Atotsi 42.1501764,43.7381308**,***1774,1715

Malda (Малда) 42.23488,43.81491**,***1774,1715

Gverteti/Gvertevi (Кумау) 42.21707, 43.85691**,***1774,1715

Teregvani (Терегуан) 42.2384339,43.7658051**,***1774,1715

Mughrisi 42.19249, 43.78105 ,*1774 only

Trorbis (Цорбис) 42.2773958,43.7917077**,***1774,1715

Shindara (Циндар) 42.19374, 43.74918**,***1774,1715

Gobozaani/Tyis Ubani (Гобозта) 42.1323813,43.8407926, *1774,1715

Patara Tamarasheni 42.112778, 43.791667 *1774,1715

Tsipliti/წიფლითი? (settlement no longer exists?)

Khrtana/ხრტანა? (settlement no longer exists?)

Rerneli/რერნელი? (settlement no longer exists?)

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Did I miss anything? There are lots of settlements that are there today that are not included in the census registries at the time in modern day Znaur district

I mean people known by name. People will say some dude associated with Balenciaga and Balanchine but no one knows about them.

Here is my opinion for world wide recognition. Please give your thoughts

1. Stalin
2. Saakashvili
3. Tamar
4. Pyotr Bagration
5. Zaza Pachulia

I don't know how popular Katie Melua, Mariam D'Abo and Bera are.

Within the former soviet union:

1. Vakhtang (Buba) Kikabidze
2. Beria

Within Georgia:

1. David the Builder
2. Ilia II
3. Ilia Chavchavadze
4. Shota Rustaveli
5. Erekle II
6. Akaki Tsereteli
7. Solomon I
8. Giorgi Saakadze
9. Bidzina Ivanishvili
10. Zviad Gamsakhurdia
11. Ekvtime Takaishvili
12. Galaktion Tabidze
13. Otar Chiladze
14. Mukhran Machavariani
15. Aslan Abashidze
16. Dodo Abashidze
17. Leila Abashidze
18. Ivane Javakhishvili
19. Irakli Abashidze
20. Sofiko Chiaureli
21. Vazha Pshavela
22. Nikoloz Baratashvili
23. Chabua Amirejibi
24. Vakhushti Bagrationi
25. Iakob Gogebashvili
26. Ordzhonikidze
27. Kostava
28. Nona Gaprindashvili

So in my personal opinion: Stalin, Vakhtang Kikabidze, and Saakashvili are the most well known Georgians worldwide.

What people do you recognize? Who do you think I missed. I mean someone that everyone would know if you asked them in Georgia, the Soviet Union or the World.

Do you think I should have ranked them differently?

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In this topic:

https://forum.ge/?f=29&showtopic=33983843&st=0

Nona Gaprindashvili is mentioned first, then Vakhtang Kikabidze and Otar Megvinetukhutses

Then at the top of the list there is:

1. Mukhran Machavariani

2. Gia Kancheli

I'd like to know as much as I can before I make the final decision

1. Is Tbilisi safe, especially if I plan to live alone?

2. Do you still have to seriously worry about Russia or any war in general?

3. What's the general attitude toward foreigners, especially those from Asia?

4. What's the average cost of living for a single person?

5. What's the climate like there?

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Sorry if this is the wrong sub. I couldn't find one specifically for Georgia.

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