Hi, I have been reading Carlos Castaneda's books. Yesterday, I completed "A Separate Reality" and have began reading "The Journey to Ixtalan". I have read some of the posts here and a little confused where to start with the practices and some the terminologies used . I'm a complete beginner to this work but I give you my confidence that I'm really interested and earnestly willingly to learn. Your help and advice will be greatly appreciated.

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If you get serious and emphasize removing your internal dialogue while gazing and doing tensegrity, you'll gain the ability to "see".

And you'll learn that once you are viewing things outside the normal range of emanations, selected by the position of your assemblage point, the things you see don't necessarily fit precisely with what you expected from reading the books.

Fortunately, if you have a good familiarity with all of them, and aren't one who is pretending to have a "benefactor" and to be learning to be a "Man of Knowledge" (seriously????), you'll eventually find a reference to any experience you have.

It's surprising. You see something, it's undeniable, it seems to violate what you expected, but then you realize Carlos and the witches didn't let us down, and there's a mention of it somewhere in there.

Thank goodness for every single book we have from Carlos and the witches, and thanks to people who have collected lecture notes.

We need those, once we are actually learning sorcery!

Some things you read about, are unlikely to be seen by any of us.

The "wall of fog" is really just an obsession of Silvio Manuel, just like his "cosmic vagina".

I'll be surprised if anyone sees that while fully awake.

Other things might be modified. The books of Carlos describe the "wheel of time" as an infinite tunnel.

I've seen it, but it wasn't infinite!

Fortunately Carlos described it in private classes and it wasn't infinite in his pantomime of him using it.

He was trying to find a new reality to change over to, so he could avoid dying.

But we used up all of his energy and gave nothing back that could allow him to "jump grooves".

Thus if anyone says to you that "Carlos went bad", don't hang out with that person anymore.

Carlos got ill, and because he spent all of his energy helping us, he couldn't escape his fate.

But did live to 72, which was decades more than the life expectancy of a man born in Peru, in his birth year.

So remember this while you are viewing infinity, with YOUR OWN EYES!

If someone says "Carlos went bad", that's a bad person who wants your money.

No one but us, gets to do this level of magic!

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I was doing a tensegrity form last week looking at the extreme magic they produce when you reach Silent Knowledge, when I looked off to the side and saw an entryway.

"That's new!" a voice said.

I understood it to be an addition caused by "energetic mass", the very thing Carlos had been trying to achieve with workshops. Both to save his life, and to make it easier for us to perceive real magic while doing tensegrity.

He never got enough for that, but he did get access to new energetic configurations that even don Juan couldn't reach, perhaps allowing him to find a path to immortality.

In our cases we need to become more conscious of what Tensegrity contains, and realize what caused the tensegrity to fail to produce the magic it's designed to produce, for all of these years. Even decades.

No one was serious enough! We had Kylie, but she was taken away.

You REALLY have to be completely serious about doing it correctly. And with the right attitude. Which we have not been.

And unfortunately these days people just make up whatever they like, having either forgotten the originals, or not caring due to greed, and they sell fake tensegrity moves to others for money.

It's a very sad situation.

The next day after I noticed something in one of the forms had changed, I was reminded of Laura's online tensegrity classes.

With nothing but serious people.

Could that be what altered the outcome of that form?

Certainly it's what Carlos was after. For the tensegrity to be transformed by storing the intent of serious practitioners, who could hold some level of silence while doing it.

Hopefully over time we'll be able to accomplish what Carlos could not, due to his life being cut short. And produce enough "group energetic mass" to make it possible even for beginners to perceive the levels of magic tensegrity naturally produces, when you have no internal dialogue focusing your attention back onto your own history and worries.

Thank you, everyone, for your immense help. I have been lurking here for a couple of months now and attempting practices daily. I would like to share a few of my womb dreaming experiences so far, to see if I'm on the right track and also ask a question.

First off, my daily practices consist of:

2 hours of chair silence split into morning and evening sessions

1 hour recapitulation (usually after a chair silence session)

3 Tensegrity passes ( Affection foe the energy body, "headbanger" pass, partial pass for silence - still to learn the complete version of this one)

Open eye womb dreaming in semi dark room - still to0 chicken for full dark room (sometimes I close my eyes briefly, but remain awake). Also I place my hands on my womb area for now,(I had a hysterectomy last year), until I find a weight iI love, n the future.

Experiences so far:

Chair Silence: A couple of days ago, my upper torso began to shake uncontrollably - rocking back and forth, as if something or somebody was roughly rocking me back n forth. Went on for a few minutes and didn't stop when I tried to stop it. Stopped on its own, just before my alarm went off.

Then, yesterday, for the first time, saw a city. I seemed to be above it looking down and it was bright daylight. Only lasted a couple of seconds at most.

Recap: Only felt as if someone or something breathed much deeper for me and turned my head much further to the sides, than I was used to doing. Made the visuals much clearer, too.

Womb dreaming:

On my first womb dreaming session with eyes open, I found myself suddenly standing next to a clown-like "person" wearing a stripped green/white overalls type Pajamas, with a smile of his face, staring at me. Scared, I took off running and found myself in bed again.

In another womb dreaming session (eyes closed, relaxed, but awake), It felt like I "zoomed" into a tunnel. I looked at my hands, saw them clearly and them=n looked left and saw "someone" approaching. I looked at my hands again, saw them clearly and then looked right and saw another "person" approaching. This second person felt "scary" and I began to lose dreaming attention since I didn't want to be there anymore. But...I remembered something about grabbing stuff or shouting when losing dreaming attention and I yelled STOP very loudly. I "froze" and looked around, but I was now my a building with a field where "people" where playing a game. I looked at my hands, saw them and looked at the building walls, then back at my hands and then looked opposite the building and saw a lovely grove of trees. I decided to go there and as I lifted, I was back in bed.

Now comes my question based on 2 back to back (a day ago and this morning) experiences.

In bed, eyes open the other day, I began to hear a very loud buzzing and accompanying it was the "feeling" that I was flying at an incredible speed - faster and even faster - louder and louder grew the noise. I also noticed my breathing seemed to be doing something I can't describe, coming all the way up to my throat. The flying speed and noislevel intensified and I got scared and it slowed down fast and stopped.

After reading here, I wondered if it was my assemblage point moving.

So, this morning, during womb dreaming, as it happened again, I decided to relax because it was just my AP. However, at one point, I heard and felt loud bangs as if metal was being bolted VERY loudly about 3 or 4 times. Then the speed and noise took off again, after the "bolting" and it was so intense and felt to me as it if would go on forever if I didn't stop, so I again felt fear and stopped. This time, the slowing down took long and as it slowed, I saw views of things, places and especially a small face and an eye that was staring at me. I tried to keep my internal dialogue quiet as the slow down happened, until I was blue lined again.

Q1: Am I on the right track with all of this?

Q2" Does anyone have experience with the "super speed flying" with Loud noise, etc? Is it my AP? Should I let it happen and see it to the end?

Thank you!

Hello Dan. This is mainly a question about Dark Room practice.

I have been reading CCs books since a teacher in highschool told me that after years of searching, he had found the right path. I started to read the first ones 20 years ago, and again, about 4 years ago i started reading all of them. I did few MPs in my university time and about 10 years ago i had learned all of them. Since then i did not do them, until 4 years ago. I did them every morning, waking up 1h before the normal time in order to have energy and a clear mind and also time. At that time the ideea was to go into dreaming after the MPs, and it happened a few times, but it was only maybe a lucid dream. All the time i was "intending" to see my hands before going to sleep for the 2nd time. One day in october 2021, after doing the MPs and relaxing on the sofa, i think i fell asleep like in the chair technique and then my wife called me. I woke up but i think i was in between states (1st and 2nd ATT). Immediately after that i heard the "pop/crack" at the back of the head. The dreaming was stupendous. I was doing the MPs, the mashing part i think, in the dream. And then i saw a dark figure coming after me. I did the MPs in self protection and locked the door. The next deeaming session, i think was either the same time or the next day, i saw myself in the garden, looking at the stars. I was shocked because i knew i was asleep. I then left to find something and dreaming ended. The next few days i had "dreaming" where i saw my hands after exiting the normal dream through a window or door. I was instantly aware of being aware in the dream. I even understood the concept about dreaming energy and how to move from a dream into another, how to count objects after seeing the hands, how to keep my awareness focused as much as i could. Over the next few months this dreaming slowly faded away. After 2 years i finaly found the answer. The AP movement, the first one since i know/ became aware of myself, generated a lot of energy. I became aware of it when i was aware in the first dream when i saw the stars. (Later i even jumpep towards the sun and other stars. It was wonderful). The sensation, the next day after the first AP movement was that i was in heaven, full of energy and purpose. But the crucial fact that puzzled me was this one: after october 2021, in the morning, after doing the MPs, and staying still in the dark, i immediately became silent. It was like i saw lights, the sound in the ears, etc. The ID sentences became staggered automatically and stopped. (In comparisson with the ID that i had 5 years ago - that was a truly big monster, now it was quiet) It was like the surplus energy itself made me silent. I saw images, sounds, letters, words, moving images, "movies" etc. (With the eyes closed and during relaxation, after mp s) Then the crucial effect was that i saw a swirl, wirl, vortex (for about 10-15 consecutive times). The vortex was sucking me into it, it was like traveling through a wormhole. Then one day, i had an image appearing at the end of it. It was like the tunnel after death, with a white light at the end. I was shocked. It was almost as if i entered another reality. It was so clear that i shocked myself, thus i woke up. Since then i kept looking for a way to have that experience again. The crucial intent then was to see my hands, to be aware of the energy body and to have clarity and a clear link to intent. I realized that the obsession with achieving results kept me away. But i also tried and remembered most of my life on paper and maybe truly recapitulated some small parts of it. Thus i gained more serenity, less attachment, less obsessions, etc. However i forgot to emphasive IS.

Now, doing the dark room practice, whenever i can, i reached the following effects, but not all the time: A purple blotch (wherever i looked) (30-40 % of the time) Yellow, white lights at my feet (60%) Seeing the faint shadow of my hands, while moving, in the dark, with the mask also on. (80%) Dots/blotches moving around (directional - following the head) (40%) Dots/blotches non-directional - not following the head movement (15%) Straight white lines (2 times maybe) Yellow, white light at my hands, torso (20%) The feeling of expansion (maybe 2 times) The feeling of claustrophobia and lots of lights (white) (1 time) I found out that i have to use my beam of awareness to focus on pressure on my hands, body parts (stones, crystals..), my breath, the sound in the ears, and my "eye" sight. The effects happened maybe 20 min to 1 h after starting. However, because of the rough days i had and have, i fell asleep after 1, 1.5 hours. I could not reach IS i think mainly because of lack of energy.

While doing chair silence in the dark, i heard a few times voices. In 2021 maybe or 2022 i clearly heard a voice that was and was not mine. It was strange. I still see picture and hear sounds but because of lack of energy i think they have a very low clarity. I also saw lights, the purple blotch, etc. However, dreaming, after chair silence is enhanced, but i did not see my hands.

Besides the lack of energy in the evening, at night and maybe a big lack of IS and control of the beam of awareness, what do you think could be the problem. I must admint that doing the MPs in the evening, night is hard and i want to sleep. I may be doing the 1st and 3rd series. But i rarely did the 4th and 5th. It it also because of the lack of MPs..

Or maybe my double does not want to come closer because i still "stink" a lot... (because the lack of proper recap (even though i did 1.5 years of it. It was mainly remembering and the intent to detach), and because of lack of IS / control (i now try to be silent during the day... if i can and if i remember. I now am becoming more aware that IS is the key)

Dan, is there a post with all the cues from Dark Room practices, just like the one from chair silence?

What could be the main reason i do no reach IS / visual cues / handling puffs during dark room practice? (I have been doing it 3/4 of the time for almost 2+ months). PS for the last month i was too exhausted to do dark room, but even so, when relaxing with the eyes closed, the purple blotch appears most of the time.

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It takes a long time to make these pictures, which means I have to neglect other materials our community badly needs. Such as animations explaining basic topics people have gotten confused about.

Or never even noticed at all, such as a seer's ability to freely time travel.

But people need to see the rewards, if you manage to work hard on a daily basis.

This is the sort of thing you get to do once you can sustain Silent Knowledge, and get accustomed to the novelty of that enough to spend more time just "exploring" what can be done with it.

These sights however, happen all along the J curve. All this picture shows is that by using Silent Knowledge you can "recall" things you learned along the way, and cause them to manifest.

Then if you cycle through them, one after the other, you begin to train both yourself, cleaning your link to intent even further, and INTENT itself!

You can train intent to assist you.

It's how the "Men of Knowledge" did magic, even though they never learned to see.

They had one or two rituals they knew, which were guaranteed to summon astonishing magic, because they always had in the past.

Unfortunately for those of you who like to pretend to be learning to be a "Man of Knowledge", those rituals required the Ally, and the specific preparation of power plants.

You don't have those, so you can't pretend that.

And why would you?

The Men of Knowledge NEVER learned to see.

We on the other hand, can spend hours a night doing nothing but SEEING.

That's what this really is. "Applied Seeing".

"If I perform the tensegrity exercises in reverse, will it affect the outcome? When I was learning some tensegrity movements, I noticed that I was doing them opposite to what was shown in the video—actions meant for the left side were being done on the right. Is there an issue with this? If not, I will continue practicing this way."

Hello everyone. Been reading this sub for few months, and started to get into practising. I am not native speaker, so pardon my english.

I have seen colors my eyes closed [edit: also eyes open in certain conditions], mostly pink&violet flame, but now recent experience was swirling pearly colors mixed, like a rainbow and that is new. It got me excited again to try. I have been using also white noise as a tool to sleep, and when I was listening waves I saw it briefly. I have succesfully got it again without tapes after that. I have seen in darkroom something appearing briefly, it's like a different flame or spark in "top" of all that color, it is like in a different layer and it got my attention.

Another question about hands, I have been teached as a child specific gesture, where I cross my fingers almost like in praying and theres pressure then, almost pain. Would that be good in darkroom to clear my mind? That is something I remembered from childhood that I have been forgotten for a long time.

Thank you for your work.

(Edited spelling and added words to correct meaning)

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The "how" of this is in the advanced subreddit, but I kind of like the picture ChatGPT made after more than one attempt. And there's no picture today in here.

Basically it's the "Pandora's Box" magical pass applied to Silent Knowledge, but you must not "crush" it as you normally do with that pass.

Cholita was suppose to get on a plane and come home yesterday, since she used up all of her money in Mexico, has no bank cards, I couldn't pay any hotels without being there in person with the charge card, I couldn't send her cash in time, and she was too frightened to go get money at the local Moneygram.

I was worried sick she wasn't going to get on the plane, so I summoned her using silent knowledge. Right when she had to leave to get to the airport in time.

I've only done this with Cholita in the past in the red zone. My ally "Fancy" taught me. Cholita caught me, and blocked it. Then later I caught her red handed using it on me.

It's a red zone activity as it was taught to me by that Ally.

But I understood intuitively how to do it in the purple zone. So I tried it.

I was shocked when it turned out I could have a conversation with her from thousands of miles away.

Was it really her?

Who cares!?

If you have to ask that question and then if you don't like the answer it's not worth it to you to learn it, then you aren't really interested in learning magic.

I mean, who can do this?

No one but us. I suppose some guy after your money out there might claim something close, but if it's just him and no obvious way to try to duplicate it, and no one else seems to be doing anything similar, it doesn't count.

Fortunately, it's not even difficult once you have stabilized the purple zone.

But I suspect that you must have a "need" in order to get lucky and find the person you wanted to remote view.

I was quite frankly, extremely surprised it worked.

If I try this again tonight, with no need, I'll most likely get a random entity.

"Need" is a force on the emanations which is beyond the book deal mind.

"Want" is not.

And it could even be that the "need" has to be associated with learning sorcery.

It has to be a "need" that the Eagle likes. Very daring, kind of whimsical, and maybe a little malicious too.

That causes "pleasing" anticipation.

The Eagle likes that.

I imagine it Is just about being able to be silent and having a relationship at the same time.. I wonder of anyone here has a partner and still is successful in the practice. Just for curiosity

I managed to receive an intent gift during a recapitulation session at 3 pm today.

It was a near-continuous stream of porn "clips" for about 30 minutes of time.

I kept up with my breathing the entire time and eventually I started to feel rather disgusted with it.

I asked if any IOB would like to make itself more obvious and 5 seconds later, I saw a very unusual design that I just can't get any AI to replicate, but I know where I saw something like it. It was the below image, but in a straight line instead of a ball shape.

After I saw that line, it flew at me, and pink webbing covered all of the "clips" that I was still seeing, and I kept a near-continuous stream for another 15 minutes or so before ending the session.

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You can thank Cholita for this one, if she ever comes back from Mexico.

There's a reason Zuleica told Carlos that taking care of someone is a very good thing for sorcerers to do. And don Juan told Carlos that all sorcerers have to find petty tyrants, in order to grow as much as possible.

Carlos had la Gorda, and I have Cholita.

It's wonderful when your petty tyrant is also a witch! They make up for the trouble by doing magic around you.

It's nice to get a "freebee" and not have to do all the work yourself, in order to see real magic.

In this case, my worry over Cholita's safety required me to work twice as hard to move my assemblage point, and while doing that I noticed shapeshifting was possible through Tensegrity.

In fact, not only possible but INEVITABLE.

Except, let's call it "micro shapeshifting" for now. Don't expect to beat down the wall and bust out into your neighborhood in werewolf fashion.

But you might mutate, and later remember you were only 6 inches tall at one point!

This doesn't mean you get to pretend it! Don't you dare do that or you are DOOMED. Once you start pretending and visualizing, there's almost no chance for you to go any further than you have already gotten. Because now, your intent is focused on attention seeking. Not on sorcery.

But if you never obsess over what other people think, or how to impress them with exaggerations and lies, and you work hard, then you'll uncover everything the new and old seers knew, and perhaps even more.

We're a new breed of "self-taught" seers.

It's never happened before! And if our numbers grow, our power will surpass anything the old or new seers ever achieved.

Just not in my lifetime. I'm too old.

So the young ones out there, please work hard and never quit. And never give in to the dark side.

Greed, attention seeking, and money making. Franchising too.

Those are the dark side of our force.

(Intent)

Let me add a Star Wars quote from Yoda, because it's very true in our case. I don't know if there's an old witch behind Star Wars writers, or if they started with our sorcery for the Jedi, and it naturally makes sense for it to evolve in the same direction as the real thing.

But so far it has!

So the quote from Yoda, about Rey. In response to Yoda setting the Jedi ancient library on fire, and Luke complaining what a tragic loss it will be.

"Already has, that which she needs."

You do too! It's just waiting out there in Silent Knowledge, to stream to you freely like a Disney+ Star Wars series.

All that seers have done in the past is available to you, if you shun the pretending.

I came across this community a while back and no matter how far from it I get I keep being reminded that it’s here. I feel called to dig further and would love to know how to best approach this. Is there a post that better details the order in which Don Juan‘s teachings should be approached?

Urgh! I’m well practised at meditation, and with my eyes closed I’d got to the point where I would say I was without much internal monologue for periods of time and it was in those moments that things would suddenly shift, I’d feel movement, body dissolving etc. I’d also have periods of labelling and naming what was happening of course! I’m no longer doing eyes closed meditation, I’m trying to force silence with my eyes open and fucking hell, is it a different thing.

I’m getting to the point that I’m feeling so miserable because of my absolute failure to stop labelling everything I see.This all counts as internal monologue right? Like naming things or mentally categorising them is a huge barrier to seeing? I cried in frustration the other day, I realise that’s ridiculous and I’m dropping it as much as I can. It just feels kinda hopeless. I don’t understand how I can look at things around me without applying the names of colours, or “plant” or “shadow” or whatever sodding label I’ve attached to it. Any help? Tensegrity helps but I can’t always do that.

Also how much of this during recap is a problem? Like I am visualising and being with the feelings and viewing the space I am in but then also having thoughts about “oh, I did this thing here and here too, that’s a pattern.” and so on and so forth. Do I need to work to stop those thoughts?

Also someone please point me to where to find the beginners chat Athina mentioned so I’m not clogging up the wall with noob posts?

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The "Pandora's Box" magical pass is mostly a red zone effect. Or as it's called in the books, "The Shift Below".

It's where shapeshifting happens. So if you can turn into a frog and shrink to the size of your shoe, it's not surprising that you can manifest a hooded zombie assistant. Which by the way, is sentient to some extent.

It's VERY scary. But in general, the red zone is also scary. Down there you get the most EXOTIC magic (once in a while) but are also still "you". And "you" are prone to fear.

But if you keep moving your assemblage point down below you and up to the front, fear becomes almost alien to you, perhaps because there is no "you" anymore.

In the books it's called "Heightened Awareness".

Yet still, you can't do away with using Pandora's pass to manifest objects, at least in some form. You still need a way to "concentrate" intent.

The real fun happens in Silent Knowledge, the purple zone on the J curve, where "stuff just happens".

It's coming from infinity.

It's tempting to just passively watch it, for fear that if you interfere, your silence won't be deep enough to get more.

But one day you find, you can indeed "interfere".

At which point, you can combine silent knowledge manifestations. For example, take the person on the left, and get him to join the people on the right.

BUT, don't expect to be able to look right and put your hand under those people, then look left at the other person, to put your hand under it, and then still see the people in your right hand.

You have to have "shrunk" your tonal at least a bit, in order to be that "uninterested". If you show any "interest", it'll all go away.

Because "interest" is greed.

Now the real trick is to put the being on the left with the beings on the right, and then join them on your hand!

I almost got that right last night, due to a power boost from Cholita who seems to have run away to Mexico, possibly for quite a while.

Bottom line: Our sorcery is real, and very cool, and nothing else out there even comes a tiny bit close to this. If you believe it does, you're hopeless. Might as well get some Yogi diapers to wear on mountain tops as you shout "OOOMMMM!!!"

Keeping in mind, our magic is done fully awake, eyes wide open, totally sober, and DAILY.

Not once, and then you write your "I'm a super cool Yogi so give me money and build me a palace in Pacific Palisades" book.

Trust me, the groupies suck!!! 

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This should be parts 3 and 4 of the "Series for Preparing Intent".

I'm not 100% sure, and don't have the time to watch all of the moves and compare them to the book.

So if anyone sees a problem let me know. It's possible there's 3 from part 2 added on, because the book has 3 more than the DVD. Or the DVD has 3 more than the book.

I'm not certain.

There's 400+ tensegrity passes by our last count, and we're trying to protect and preserve them.

Not something we ought to have to do. Cleargreen should do that to make up for taking money from our community.

But they'd rather make up fake magical passes, and teach people to close their eyes and pretend their sorcery through visualizing like all fake magical systems do. So that their followers eagerly keep paying for more lessons, thinking they're making progress, when they're only getting stuck in the river of shit even more.

All of the leaders Carlos selected, went totally bad. And are creating bad followers, who will also try to steal from our community once they think they can get away with it.

So if you see anything I ought to have noticed in this, but just don't have the time to look at it all, let me know. It was animated by Bizarre Studios in Pakistan.

Next up: The so called "bat pass", which was never about bats at all, but was changed to that as part of Cleargreen's ludicrous Totem Animal obsession, as a way to interest more people in their pretending.

They could have worked to learn real magic instead, but were too lazy.

They took a pass for hearing sorcery style, and turned it into pseudo shapeshifting.

Minus any actual magic.

Shapeshifting is both EASY, and INEVITABLE.

You will do that, if you practice "dark room".

But our leaders decided to market the pretending of it, and changed that pass to some kind of "bat pass".

I'd like to bring it back where it was intended to be, as a way to learn to pay attention to other senses, while doing tensegrity.

Some people actually hear the second attention first.

But your energy body becoming visible is the most common thing which happens, if you stop all the make believe and actually work hard to learn sorcery.

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So this has never happened to me before in this case so I’m a bit lost to what’s happening to me

In the past when iob tried to get at me it was because they tricked me in dreaming (you take something you pay for it) Sometimes one of those iobs would push me in a phantom room of my house to give me a little help

Less than one month ago a iob pushed me into a dream and we were fighting. At one point in applied a sharp pressure between my shoulder blades and I woke up tired. The weird thing is that I didn’t lucid dream for a while so naturally I didn’t fall for any tricks

5 days ago it did the exact same but this time I managed to “win” the fight it seemed like, idk if it’s because it was going easy on me or if I just had the energy.

A voice then came to me and told me they don’t usually give 2nd chances when they offer something, and asked me why I don’t go back and live like an intolerable human. My 1st gut instinct was telling me not to trust this voice and whatever offer this was.

Well tonight same things happened again, and I’m realising the iob attacks when I’m weak. If I binged eat and was a bit high in my emotions that’s when it acted Tonight it made sure to scare me in my room because I thought if it happened again I would just run away. But I can’t really run away if I’m in my bed. I woke up and since it’s nearly time to wake up I thought I won’t take any chances to go back to sleep because I don’t know why it’s doing that

So I’m lost and need some answers if anyone knows what happening ? Because they’re annoying

Here's a summary of conversations I had with Carol Tiggs and Florinda Donner, who called when I was recuperating from surgery. Their advice on using energy for healing, and recapitulating surgeries and the effect thereof may be of interest:https://sustainedaction.org/explorations/conversations-with-carol-and-florinda/

+i made this post on the discord server and some of it is my correspondence with others. i wasn’t going to make this post on reddit at first but after reading a few posts from Dan about the spirits intent to spread the knowledge of sorcery, the eagles desire for sorcery experiences and new practitioners relating to beginners posts, i decided to post+

i wanna say that last night right after i woke up i saw writing on the wall clearly lit up and written on two sheets of paper it was hard to read because i was trying hard to hold silence without letting my internal dialogue flood me, because of that the texts were blurring out but i successfully read it but don’t remember now lol there were lights coming from it, it was like a pink neon type of thing

i know maybe someone might say this doesn’t count for practice but i really saw it and was not asleep, i just got good at holding moments right after waking up in silence

this happened last week with my lover right after waking up i started making out with her and having sex but i couldn’t remember who she was or who i was but my body was busy like i was watching the scene

it (the writing) was jumbled and seemed to rearrange itself in response to where i placed my attention

but at one second i was able to read it but i still didn’t understand or know what i read but i know i read it

my internal dialogue wasn’t running like in waking life

when i saw it at first, i was like “oh what’s that”, surprised but not startled

then i just casually instinctively sought to read what it said, but couldn’t make it out at first cuz i realized for a second that this wasn’t ordinary but due to being silent nothing stood out to me like this is something extraordinary happening, it all just felt like whatever

i think the sight of that lasted for like a minute of me just trying to read what it said and when i finally did, i tried to understand it but couldn’t, that’s when my internal dialogue started flooding back saying stuff like “wtf was that about”

this (the writing) was english, at least i think it was but i couldn’t comprehend or it didn’t make sense

been collecting sunlight glitter for a few days so that probably has something to do with my experience last night

This came to mind after I finished a sweep in recapitulation yesterday. I felt the sense I've felt when I don't want to do something that could be good for me because it makes me uncomfortable. I turned on the lights, grabbed my notebook and started writing.

Going into it, my internal chatter was "this won't take long, I know all of the things I do in a day" and I remembered recent internal chatter where I told myself, and imaginary conversations, at how busy I was working on various aims.

Turns out I was deluding myself with how much time and effort I really put in. I try to minimize the time of runaway thoughts, but their frequency adds up to a lot of wasted effort.

I reached almost 100 entries before I got to a single thing I would consider productive. Everything before that was a flavor of "lament about X, regret X, check X". A bunch of pointless wishing and fantasizing.

I don't know how I could turn every one of those micro distractions into something "productive", but I think I want to stop the bleeding and quit wasting time thinking without a purpose. Looking at my repetitive Iterating over and over again made me feel very stupid, realizing I've been acting in a way I would consider neurotic if I saw it in someone else.

Juann mentioned that the posts of new people are more interesting to beginners and I noticed the same thing in the number of "likes" on outside social media.

If you see a puff for the first time and draw it up, it can get 3 times as many likes on other platforms, than a post like this one.

And "the spirit" tends to reward those who share experiences. Because there's some kind of "flow" to restore real magic to the world, started by the lineage of don Juan.

I suspect the Eagle likes sorcery better than ordinary life experiences as it tends to light up regions in the dark sea of emanations which are poorly illuminated with latent awareness.

Mine experiences have gotten too abstract. Seemingly too unreachable for beginners. So the simpler posts are more appreciated.

Which is actually a good thing, because it means that in some cases beginners won't try to copy something like this post.

To lie to others about their amazing talent.

It's just plain crazy what you can do later on. So maybe no one tries to copy it.

And I can post it here!

There's nothing "vague" or visualized about Silent Knowledge. You're RIGHT THERE, often even in the past where the event took place.

So if you're hooked to a fake magical system or delusional Asian religion where you close your eyes, just know that you have real choices other than pretending.

Our sorcery inevitably leads to "seeing" (AKA Silent Knowledge) and it's likely all the time once you can easily move your assemblage point there.

So that any "curiosity" you encounter during your daily activities, might come back for clarification later on.

Because Silent knowledge is all about extracting "knowing" from the dark sea of the emanations. By removing your internal dialogue, so that you can perceive what starts out subtle until you lend it more awareness.

Our entire life is just a series of "knowings" from the dark see. It's simply out of our control, so that it seems to be the only life we have. A gift from some external entity which keeps us here as food.

When in fact, we have hundreds more alternate lives available to us.

And that "knowing" of "seeing" isn't any less real than your daily world.

It's just a smaller bundle of emanations than we normally utilize.

If what you saw with your physical eyes returns during Silent Knowledge, but wasn't enough information to solve a small mystery, then your double can go back in time to that very location, to walk around and investigate.

It's almost as if Silent Knowledge is just an "offer" of a portal into the past, and not necessarily the solution to your quandary. Maybe it's more like the "entry screen" to a location in all of time and space.

The title screen for that topic, but you still have to click on something with your awareness, and enter the series of web pages about it.

Imagine if Sherlock Holmes had been a sorcerer!

No more deducing.

Just go look for yourself!

In person...

Hopefully for all of our sakes, it's not possible to alter the past with your actions.

But... There is that "Wheel of Time" technique. And since that's merely a seers construct, there's no reason you can't view alternate possible timelines for a specific event, using your double.

And return to one of those alternatives, instead of this one.

It would be like the double waking up at the dream location, a known teleportation technique which allowed Carlos to travel from Mexico City to Arizona, in an instant. Causing him to need to be plunged into a bath of cold water to get over the shock.

By the way, the cold water works. I've had to use it myself to defend against the Allies. It simply moves your assemblage point back to normal where they can't reach you.

But could Carlos also have woken up in an alternate timeline?

Hey! So I’m new to the subreddit and I’ve been trying to find the information I need but struggling. I’d appreciate if someone could give me a nudge in the right direction. Is there a specific wiki for women?

I read the Castaneda books about twenty years ago, wasn’t practising in any clear way but still had some weird stuff happen (externally verifiable - like hearing a housemate and her boyfriend arguing, including exactly was said and then finding out they were at his home and not ours when I raised it) and freaked out and decided I wasn’t interested in any more weirdness. I completely dismissed the whole thing as nonsense for a long time and have no come full circle. I’ve just re-ordered the books from Journey to Ixtlan onwards (as recommended in here) and will be reading them.

I’ve had a number of practises of the last decade that I know many in here are quite scathing of. I’m not arguing for the effective of them other than meditation has taught me to be a lot more focused than I was and I’m hoping it will help with this practise. I’m now in a much more disciplined place. A teacher of mine taught me a form of recapitulation two years ago and so I’ve been doing that and sitting for a couple of hours a day since. I’ve now learnt this practise came from Casteneda and knowing how much energy it freed up for me is making me wonder what else is possible.

I’ve seen a lot of stuff in meditation that felt very real but now I’m reading here that it’s all imagined/pointless. Things like falling into thick, endless black and then finding myself looking out over a galaxy (but my actual body wasn’t there so assuming you guys would say it’s all nonsense), seeing lines extending out from my body that move like fillings pulled by a magnet (again in meditation, with eyes closed). I’m willing to believe it’s all made up nonsense that my brain created, but I’m compelled to explore what’s being discussed here. I experience energy, feel it, can direct it at people (and they can feel it too, if they’re not lying to themselves/me, and move it around. I can’t see it though. I’m wondering if I’ve been settling for something imagined or so much less than what is possible so I’m here to learn.

I keep seeing discussions mentioning women can do whatever they want, that tensegrity isn’t necessary for women etc and I’m confused. What should I do, where should I start? Dark room?

I’ve been trawling through here trying to establish a clear path forward and then the stuff about women needed a different approach has left me wondering what the difference is. Thanks for your help in advance!

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This is too advanced for this subreddit, but I can't see enough harm in posting it that an extra post doesn't outweigh the risks to beginners.

The ones who might try to pretend this, won't keep practicing anyway.

We all need to find visible pieces of our energy body using tensegrity, or learn to summon videos in the air of past memories, using recapitulation.

Beginner's experiences which are real, and incremental.

We don't need to fantasize about advanced magic. It's nice to know it's there, but not useful to focus on it instead of working hard to get there.

Even so, here's some beginner's advanced magic.

Silent Knowledge is how Carlos went off into the second attention to explore other worlds, almost as if they were tunnels connected to his home.

And the less you bring with you when examining the tunnels you find, the more clearly you can see them. And the better they will "hum" with knowledge from the emanations.

If you have expectations, you'll drown it out and only see the most obvious things.

How much more so, pursuing attention and money drowns out any possibility of real magic.

A fate even the teachers Carlos created, fell into. Never learning anything real because they were obsessed with their pretend status as "apprentices", and getting more money from it.

Apprentices...???

How disgusting. To pretend that based on the first 3 books!

But even the students of the failed students are now pretending to be the students of apprentices.

Hoping to repeat the same ugly con game.

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The Sorcerer's Crossing (Taisha Abelar), P. 112-114. Taisha describes a series of passes that were passed down to her by her mentor, Clara.

The passes involve absorbing energy directly from the sun:

Clara told me to wash my hands in a bucket of water and to sit on a log by a clearing outside the fenced garden, for she was going to show me how to begin to direct my attention to the sun. She said that I should always wear a wide-rimmed hat in order to shield my head and face. She also warned me never to do any of the breathing passes she was about to show me for more than a few minutes at a time.

"Why are they called breathing passes?" I asked.

"Because the preset intent of these passes is to pass energy from the breath to the area where we place our attention. It could be an organ in our body or an energy channel or even a thought or a memory, as in the case of recapitulation. What is important is that energy is transmitted, thus fulfilling the intent established beforehand; the result is sheer magic, because it appears as if it had sprung out of nowhere. That's why we call these movements and breaths sorcery passes."

Clara instructed me to face the sun with my eyes closed, then take a deep breath through my mouth and pull the sun's warmth and light into my stomach. I had to hold it there for as long as I could, then swallow and, finally, exhale any air that was left.

"Pretend you're a sunflower," she teased. "Always keep your face toward the sun when you breathe. The light of the sun charges the breath with power. So be sure to take big gulps of air and completely fill your lungs. Do this three times."

She explained that in this exercise, the energy of the sun automatically spread throughout the entire body. But we could deliberately send the sun's healing rays to any area by touching the spot where we want the energy to go, or simply by using the mind to direct energy to it.

"Actually, when you have practiced this breath long enough, you don't need to use your hands anymore," she went on. "You can just visualize the sun's rays oozing directly into a specific part of your body."

She suggested that I do the same three breaths, but this time breathing through my nose and visualizing the light flowing down into my back, thus energizing the channels along my spine. That way, the sun's rays would flood my entire body.

"If you want to bypass breathing through the nose or mouth altogether," Clara said, "you can breathe directly with your stomach or your chest or your back. You can even bring the energy up the body through the soles of your feet."

She told me to concentrate on my lower abdomen, on the spot just below my navel, and breathe in a relaxed fashion until I could feel a bond forming between my body and the sun.

As I inhaled under her guidance, I could feel the inside of my stomach becoming warmer and filled with light. After a while, Clara told me to practice breathing with other areas. She touched the spot on my forehead between my eyes. When I concentrated my attention there, my head became flushed with a yellow glow. Clara recommended that I absorb as much of the sun's vitality as I could by holding my breath, then rolling my eyes in a clockwise direction before exhaling. I did as she instructed and the yellow glow intensified.

"Now stand up and try breathing with your back," she said, and helped me to take off my jacket.

I turned my back to the sun and tried to place my attention on the various centers she pointed out with a touch. One was between my shoulder blades, another was at the nape of my neck. As I breathed, visualizing the sun on my back, I felt a warmth move up and down my spine, then rush to my head. I became so dizzy that I nearly lost my balance.

"That's enough for today," Clara said, handing me my jacket.

I sat down feeling giddy, as if I were happily drunk.

"The light of the sun is pure power," Clara said. "After all, it's the most intensely gathered energy there is."

She said that an invisible line of energy flows out directly from the top of the head, upward to the realm of not-being. Or it can flow from the realm of not-being down into us via an opening at the very center of the top of the head.

"If you like, you can call it the life line that links us to a greater awareness," she said. "The sun, if used properly, charges this line and causes it to spring into action. That's why the crown of the head must always be protected."

Posting this as I am super confused by what I have noticed in the past 1-2 days.

For the past several months, I had noticed purple puffs within 2-3 minutes of darkness, almost every night without fail. Either purple puffs, or moving purple/black swirls. Now within the past 1-2 days, I am not noticing any puffs. Not even on my body. The strange thing is that in other ways I have seen progress. Last night I did the door knob pass for ten minutes—I had a few mini-dreams, and saw some red energy, as well as what I think might have been luminous fibers; they were clumped together, and disappeared after only a second… none of these visions were vivid and I did not notice them coming from a puff. They appeared more like hypnagogic images to me.

I have been sleeping within the past few days, after nearly a month of no sleep, and I did use a benzodiazepine twice to do so (if that is at all relevant). But I was seeing vivid purple/yellow nightly puffs even before my insomnia started back up again… there hasn’t been any change to my internal dialogue that I am aware of, and if anything I’ve been practicing tensegrity more lately.

Edit since I can't change the title: Not doing this to claim the technique itself traumatized me. I am aware that I have my own mental issues that need addressing. I am asking for solutions for how to deal with feelings that are ultimately obsessive regarding this practice, and because I wanted verification of people more experienced than me on this subreddit that what I am experiencing comes from me alone, and is not a negative side effect from doing this work.

Recapitulation (and anything shamanic) is an extremely niche issue, so it's hard for me to talk openly with anyone who doesn't understand.

Hello, does anyone have any advice for this? I have extreme intrusive thoughts and have struggled to recenter after recapitulating heavily mid 2023 (on the advice of my father, who was way into Castaneda at the time) since then I have unwittingly imagined myself recapitulation almost everything that has happened to me as its occurred... this practice has almost destroyed my life and left me with deep wounds, fears and doubts about the strength of my own intention.

If you follow human design, I am a projector with an open head center, which leads to me being naturally very vulnerable to this sort of thing anyway and being unable to control my thoughts and attention easily when working with energy.

Does anyone have any advice for me going forward?

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We get really twisted out of shape reading the books of Carlos and the witches, while pretending we're part of the fantasy.

What's just a simple observation from the books, about how reality works, turns into gospel.

And we "share" our vast knowledge of the pointless inventory of techniques, which we like to pretend we'll do some day.

Or pretend we already did.

That sort of behavior nearly destroyed everything Carlos brought us, with even his leaders pretending and making up stuff from borrowed book inventory.

But the truth of the matter is, when you are actually DOING the things in the books, they become a bit more clear and obvious.

Such as "Using Awareness as a Feature of the Environment".

Doesn't darkroom qualify as just that???

And don't many darkroomers find themselves in the inorganic being's world, just as Carlos and Carol Tiggs traveled there, trying to use it as a "springboard".

But they went to sleep to get there, as best we can understand the storyline.

It'll be slightly different if you are awake.

But still, you'll be SURROUNDED by awareness, as a feature of the environment.

And it gets much more complicated than this simple picture shows.

With entities coming and going. New places materializing around you constantly.

So is darkroom itself just "using awareness as a feature of the environment", which is a "third gate" activity?

Is that blasphemy?

I suppose it would be to someone who can't do any real magic at all, because they've been too lazy to follow the instructions Carlos left us.

Or they were merely a groupie all along, and never had any interest at all in magic. That's 100% of the followers in all other systems, since those have no real magic.

So why not most of the people in ours?

But if you did learn real magic and got to see what's in this picture, you might have noticed the Tensegrity itself has been teaching us to use awareness as a feature of the environment.

When you look for a puff of your energy body floating around, leap up, and scoop it onto your energy pouch, what's that other than using awareness as a feature of the environment?

And if you say, "But they used it as a springboard to go further!"

Well... Take a look around in here at the posts!

Don't we go far enough for you?

Meanwhile, please put down "Art of
Dreaming".

It's been turned into "The Art of Pretending Using Ordinary Dreams".

By our community.

I doubt Carlos ever expected it to confuse so many, when he wrote it. God only knows how hard he fought constantly to get people to stop pretending that lucid dreaming is the same as sorcery.

That book is a blight on our community in my opinion. You can pass those 4 gates while awake!

And so far not a single person has even passed one, using sleeping dreaming.

They don't even bother to find their hands each time. 

If you ask them what the dreaming emissary taught them in its world, when they went there close to 100 times the way Carlos did in that book, they don't even believe you could be seriously asking that.

To them, it's all just pretending for fun and profit.

I was asked to post that. So here it is.

Yesterday I woke up, did some things and then went to practice.

I layed down and very fastly I was on red zone seeing the magenta like roundish wall and the amber puff acting like a cloudish thick lasso. It was moving as if someone was holding it from my left, moving it on a circular motion to hit me with it. I gazed to the moving amber lasso puff for a while. It stoped moving and created an amber thin corridor with tall narrow walls on its sides stretching. The view was towards my left and it was big sized taking most of my view but not real life sized. I knew I couldn't walk on it although I wanted to so I gazed at it.

At some point gazing it and observing it, it was stable enough (always forcing silence I don't have to say that is a given) I felt a change happening and heard a wooshing sound. I would say I felt my AP moving towards my belly and everything lost colour . Instantly like it was projected infront of me in a big screen there was the view of a white place with an infinite corridor with doors on the sides. Just like in the matrix movie.

Now I knew that I could try and make it to get in there. It was stable Infront of me so I tried to get inside it literally.I stretched my doubles hands and I wanted to see them so that I could get in. Eventually I made it to see my hands and my legs and I was in like in sleeping dreaming. It was very real place. It had white doors with windows and the corridor was stretching to infinity.

I felt a pull from my stomach and I started flying with great spead in the corridor. I knew it wasn't right so I said I have to stop that. But when I commanded to stop flying uncontrollably I was back in my physical body watching it from the projected mode. Even though I was back into this mode It felt and it looked Infront of my that I was flying passing doors with speed. The pull was intense on my belly and I started feeling nauseous.

Unfortunately my cat started miaowing on my door wanting to get it and he opened the door and got me out of it ending my session.

during recap a smell of a baked sandwich filled my room but there was no baked sandwich in my room a forgotten memory from when i was in high school popped up in the stream of events i was recalling. the recollection of this event was so intense that I felt it sucking me into the scene it had it was as if I left the process of breathing and entered the memory when I entered the memory I felt my body lean forward a little and it was like I blacked out but not like in sleep

I could smell, feel,touch and also hear the sounds clearly I was back in 2010 in the courtyard of the high school behind the canteen hiding with my classmates to smoke.. and from the open window of the canteen they smell the baked sandwiches the same smells I smelled in my room!

doing the recapitulation breath inside the scene of the memory that was taking place at that moment a white light covered the whole scene and disappeared and it was as if I came out of it all.

the image is what I could capture from all this that's how I saw the memories at that moment

was the random memory growing in front of me until it became something like a whirlwind? and sucked me inside her basically like it blew up in my face, it's closer to the whole experience.

it wasn't just an everyday memory I was living the memory again, but like when you're living a dream? or something similar really very difficult to put into words