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The purpose of this subreddit is to aid in the pragmatic application of the works of Carlos Castaneda, Florinda Donner, Taisha Abelar, & Carol Tiggs to how we experience existence. Core topics include: sorcery (a.k.a. the mastery of intent), awareness, & non-ordinary reality (magic). Here, you can: learn ABOUT sorcery, what has and has not worked over thousands of years, decide to empirically embark on your own "definitive journey," and altruistically document your challenges and discoveries.

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The purpose of this subreddit is to aid in the pragmatic application of the works of Carlos Castaneda, Florinda Donner, Taisha Abelar, & Carol Tiggs to how we experience existence. Core topics include: sorcery (a.k.a. the mastery of intent), awareness, dreaming-awake, & non-ordinary reality (magic).

We can't teach people. But we can demonstrate to each other what has worked, and what else others went through to learn on their own.


Carlos Castaneda's books in chronological order:

  1. The Teachings of Don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge (1968)

  2. A Separate Reality: Further Conversations With Don Juan (1971)

  3. Journey to Ixtlan: The Lessons of Don Juan (1972)

  4. Tales of Power (1974)

  5. The Second Ring of Power (1977)

  6. The Eagle's Gift (1981)

  7. The Fire From Within (1984)

  8. The Power of Silence: Further Lessons of Don Juan (1987)

  9. The Art of Dreaming (1993)

  10. Magical Passes: The Practical Wisdom of the Shamans of Ancient Mexico (Jan. 20, 1998)

  11. The Wheel of Time: The Shamans Of Ancient Mexico, Their Thoughts About Life, Death And The Universe (Jun. 1, 1998)

  12. The Active Side of Infinity (Sep. 1, 1998)

Florinda Donner's books:

  1. Shabono: A Visit to a Remote and Magical World in the South American Rain Forest (1982)

  2. The Witch's Dream: A Healer's Way of Knowledge (1985)

  3. Being-in-Dreaming: An Initiation into the Sorcerers' World (1991)

Taisha Abelar's book:

  1. The Sorcerer's Crossing: A Woman's Journey (1992)

  2. Unpublished Manuscript - Stalking With The Double (restored version) (March, 1996) - file includes a link to the original scanned version, older file links


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21

The Amazing Secrets of Tensegrity

https://reddit.com/link/1if8wii/video/pu5fzoo2rjge1/player

Tensegrity doesn't do just one thing. It's not pretend Chi Gung which actually doesn't do anything at all, but is supposed to teach you to manipulate "chi", an imaginary Chinese primitive science concept that's been hijacked by modern hucksters, to steal your money.

Tensegrity works on MANY levels, all of them astonishing when you can view them using "seeing".

This particular set is especially obvious. Anyone, even if they can't visibly see the magic it produces, can see that it's doing very different things.

Some of them downright odd!

This is the second half of DVD 2.

So to point them out, with Stellar Hatch you literally stretch yourself into an infinite line. Don't doubt it! You'll only stretch a few feet per day, once you can visibly see this effect. But eventually you'll be pulling back awareness from stars which will float around your room, smiling at you like a little face.

It also teaches you to "defy death" by turning into a tree.

Then there's the poking motions. Those teach you how to combine dark energy with pieces of your energy body, to open holes in reality through which things can enter.

Of course, all Tensegrity is designed to amuse your energy body, and lure your "double" out into the real world where eventually it can even act on your behalf, while your physical body hides out in a house somewhere else, the way people in the lineages did.

I'd dare to say that a large number of the interactions Carlos had with don Juan, Genaro, and Zuleica, were actually with their double.

I could go on with more effects Tensegrity produces, but I'll just skip to the most important of all.

You won't see all those amazing magical effects, until you learn to remove your internal dialogue. Which is what Carlos emphasized above all else in private classes when teaching it. If you don't emphasize that, it'll never produce magical results.

So as you can hold it off longer and longer, and the puffs of your energy body become visible, you'll see how to manipulate those, but ONLY if you are even more silent than before.

And while doing that, you're being tricked into retraining your muscle memory to include SILENCE! It can do that.

https://preview.redd.it/hw1x0178rjge1.jpg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=000b5e8370999cfb59852fa71313037e5d04dc74

3 Comments
2025/02/01
15:38 UTC

38

The Death Defiers

https://preview.redd.it/1ffki61nacge1.jpg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84f4b40a6ffdc205e09c540464431187404194f6

Silent Knowledge lets you "know" what you are seeing, when you're looking at those "videos in the air" Carlos recommended against. He said they were too confusing. And it's very true that "knowledge" isn't the same as "truth".

In Silent Knowledge, you "know" things, but they pertain to what you are seeing, and not necessarily to your normal life in the river of shit.

But who cares!? You get to do magic supreme which would make all practitioners of other magical systems and religions furious with rage, claiming you are lying. And yet, you get to do things they never imagined, for hours each night.

Thus to me, "seeing" is good enough, and wondering if it's "true" is irrelevant. That's just an attempt to turn it into something you can benefit from, in the "river of shit".

Here's most of the ways to live past death, described in the books. But not all of them.

The one I "saw" last night, seemed to be related to what Carlos found. He found a "path to immortality" as a result of new energetic configurations available to him, from all his activates to help us learn.

None of us did learn, and ultimately we drained his energy so much that he died.

But in compensation, he found a way to live on even past the "new seers" and their giant dome.

So what other methods are missing?

I started to type more and thought of two, but then I lost it. So I'll let you discover more.

But never forget: Words are useless. Facts are not sorcery.

You must learn to SEE. And give up the ugly pretending.

Silence is the key. Complete removal of your internal dialogue.

41 Comments
2025/01/31
14:29 UTC

33

Repetitions in thought

The practice of silencing the internal dialogue during the day has shown me something that I didn't notice before. When I first started trying to not fantasize endlessly, it was like a pendulum going back and forth between fantasy and silence. Each time the internal dialogue creeps back in, I have to consciously redirect myself toward silence again.

After a week of this practice, I began noticing patterns in these fantasies. The most obvious were the literal repetitions - catching myself replaying amusing thoughts or scenarios multiple times again and again, chasing that small hit of pleasure. But why is it pleasurable?

Deeper still are the recurring themes in my fantasies. I find myself frequently casting imaginary scenes with whatever social media personality has recently caught my attention, or constructing elaborate mental dialogues where I emerge victorious in some hypothetical debate. (Fake shower debates are fairly common I think....) There's something unsettling about recognizing how much of my life has been occupied by them. How could I spent so much time and energy occupied with some fake fantasies in my head? And enjoy it? Or even get angry about them? I have a growing disgust towards this part of me, or at least what seems to be part of me since it's apparently a foreign installation.

On a different note, I can maintain silence for longer periods now. Subjectively it feels like eternity but in reality it's probably not more than a few seconds.

Also yesterday during my dark room gazing I saw my first red puff and I'm seeing more and more purpleish puffs. I even see super intense and large blueish puffs on the peripherals of my sight when I start the magical passes. I'm enjoying the color shows, but I want to see some faces on puffs soon

16 Comments
2025/01/29
04:36 UTC

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involuntary Screech at an inorganic Being

The "loud sound" of my assemblage point moving as I enter dreaming is feeling normal these days. I'm able to remind myself, "my AP is moving. Good" as it happens and just relax into it.

In dreaming, I was exploring a hilly land with very green vegetation. There were a few small houses nearby, so I moved there.

There were a few "children" and "Adults" outside as I passed by. I was examining some of the details of the white washed porches with interesting designs on them.

I noticed one of the "adults" looking at me, but I was only interested in the houses.

Suddenly, I saw this "adult" come up from behind and put his hands on my back. Yes, I saw from behind without having to turn around to look.

That's when I let out an involuntary high pitch screech, in a strange sing song lyric. I have no idea how that happened, what it was, nor can I even repeat it, now that I'm awake.

But, that screech threw that "adult" several feet away from me and "he" looked "horrified!!"

He stayed away from me after that and I explored a bit more, before ending my practice.

I can only surmise that my double has her own ways of handling certain things.

19 Comments
2025/01/27
12:53 UTC

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What is Psychosis from the Sorcerers perspective?

How does it relate with the assemblage point?

Is it intense movements of the assemblage point from external means? Hyper speed internal dialogue? What exactly is psychosis? Drug induced, Trauma induced…

It seems like most of the Spiritual communities, leaders and followers are actually in fact in a state of psychosis without even knowing it. Not much is grounded and very delusional beliefs and experiences.

What is your perspective towards how Psychosis relates to the assemblage point displacements and energy body.

20 Comments
2025/01/27
01:59 UTC

21

DVD2 First Half

https://reddit.com/link/1iacv84/video/8lrqbtmjvbfe1/player

NEVER FORGET, when you get to Silent Knowledge (Seeing), you'll come to realize what Carlos was doing with these.

But it's not a single thing. It comes in layers. You realize something new about tensegrity, each time you progress further in silence.

We have people who claim to have reached silence, lurking around in our community!

Can you believe that?

The world LITERALLY STOPS when you do that. But they have some bizarre idea that it's the "monkey mind" of the 1950s beatnik. Or some pretending of Buddhist Masters who in fact never even reach beginner's levels that are reached in the subreddit.

The magical passes eventually become spectacular for every single part of the form. Not just, once in a while you see a piece of your energy body, or a little face in the darkness.

It's a continuous flow of MAGIC.

You'll be living in a Dr. Strange movie, but for real.

My guess? Some of them can even be used for travel, freely in the Multiverse.

So, please. NEVER MAKE FAKE TENSEGRITY FORMS!

You'll go down in history as a very bad player in our community.

Greedy, ignorant, and obviously devoid of any real sorcery knowledge.

I hope to animate every single pass (there's 400 or so) and show special effects that I get to see every time I do it.

Eventually we'll have more who can reliably see those sights, and then we can reach a new level.

In the meantime, please stop the pretending?

These are "raw". I didn't get to adjust them yet. So if you see a flaw, let me know.

I won't "fix" them until I complete a perfect copy of Dance Home, where Carlos taught them all, after working them out with the Chacmools. Most likely at his home on Pandora.

Pandora... You just know Carlos chuckled when he saw there was a home for sale there.

Because that's what he had in mind. To open Pandora's box.

Bruce Wagner said that reading the books of Carlos "changes you".

That could be what the lineage had in mind all along. To break the flow of stupidity that mankind has fallen into.

Although, computers are pretty cool!

But so is fire, and the Neanderthals likely gave us that.

This Olmec sorcery technology, is even cooler than either.

https://preview.redd.it/w1r802abwbfe1.jpg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c5308971762c9def729061169aa75516d7d6875

2 Comments
2025/01/26
12:04 UTC

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Blank Out ...Was I Really There?

My body is still getting used to waking up to practice Darkroom at 3 am. I didn't go to sleep after my DR session today, so by late morning, I was a bit groggy.

I had a couple of hours in the late morning, so instead of napping, I recapped, did Tensegrity and then sat with mask on, for chair silence.

I became aware I blanking out when I wouldn't remember what happened, but I heard clear words and sentences that were loud and not me. I figured they were another layer of my internal dialogue. So, I just forced more silence.

Then I gently thought: "INTENT, help me use these blank outs."

And INTENT, being my best friend ever, gave me a gift.

Next thing I know, I was looking at a completely white landscape, with a man standing there sideways, with a long pole over his shoulder.

It was so clear, it felt as if I was actually there, in that landscape, looking at him.

I felt a jolt and I was sitting in my chair again and thoughts racing in my head.

Thank you INTENT!!

https://preview.redd.it/qahf5aexn0fe1.png?width=256&format=png&auto=webp&s=1f31c38a3ac04ae7d9fdf3cfdc34d8f3315ae4e0

4 Comments
2025/01/24
22:19 UTC

40

The Voice of Seeing

https://preview.redd.it/lv5oxphxwxee1.jpg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2aa258236e3692612e085179ee849cae2400f928

What we picture in our mind while reading the books of Carlos, is never quite right. We tend to "book deal" it, as if we're going to become famous and make lots of money, once we can do that.

But the truth is, the real thing isn't very useful for stealing money from others. It's too difficult to learn so that as a teacher you'll NEVER have a success (even Carlos didn't and told me so). And it takes actual very unpleasant work. You truly have to learn to completely get rid of that internal dialogue. Even Buddhist "Masters" never get close to achieving that because they never put in any effort to do it. They can't sell that.

But once you do get rid of your internal dialogue so that reality can mutate freely, "seeing" becomes available.

Not in meditation! Never pretend your magic by misrepresenting dreams.

It's available with your eyes wide open, doing nothing but sitting up on your bed gazing into infinity.

Over time, it matures until you can absorb the history of the places you view, and then later the voice of seeing becomes commonly audible.

My theory is that it becomes more and more rational as you get used to viewing the multiverse freely. So you can notice even more of it. Or maybe rational isn't the right word. But you develop your perceptual skills, so that you take in even more knowledge when viewing it. Whereas, it starts out with you completely "gone" and only aware of the videos in the air after the fact.

Suddenly, you are aware of them while they're playing.

Of course, at any point you can zip into those scenes in your physical body. Shirt, boots, and all.

Or so it seems at the time. Whether that really happens, whether you really travel back in time thousands of years, is an entirely different matter.

One you have to give up thinking about, or you'll continue to be stuck in "the book deal mind".

22 Comments
2025/01/24
12:53 UTC

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Grooves in Jet Blackness

After my hour of 3 AM Tensegrity, I sat down with blackout mask on (eyes open), for my hour of chair silence.

(Side note: I'm noticing that longer Tensegrity practice, (30 mins plus), is actually helping me be a bit more silent)

Quick flashes of pin sized lights zoomed here and there, once in a while, some purple here and there, but mostly I gazed at just blackness.

Then, a "tunnel" of grooves began to take shape in the jet blackness. Sometimes the grooves were spinning in circles. Other times they were somewhat straight lines. And then, they were swirls of wave-like grooves.

Sort of like this pic

Thank you INTENT!

Edit: Removed sentence bout Dan recommending 3AM practice.

https://preview.redd.it/djec8lk9gqee1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=31c179de25e9790f1861110a4e997c9a533f9fe8

11 Comments
2025/01/23
11:57 UTC

42

Recovering all of What Carlos Gave Us

https://preview.redd.it/fio32yji1lee1.jpg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa0d1e9dc8720a5fd6326c8677e60ac46b59e500

If you're doing darkroom, keep in mind that Carlos gave us instructions and we need to follow them.

So after you move your assemblage point using Tensegrity and removal of your internal dialogue, and once you get all the way to the "whitish light on surfaces", with your energy body brilliantly swirling around your waist amidst jet blackness whenever you raise your arms up, and then begin to see golden sparkles in the air, try sitting still while you gaze into the darkness, and learn to "let go". To accept, in perfect silence, what is coming to you from the emanations.

Eventually you'll pick up the "videos in the air".

Then after weeks or months of doing that, you'll realize that they come with "histories" of you, in that place. Or of just that place, with you as an observer.

I recommend trying to see 10 of those each night, which takes me around 30 minutes at this point.

And 30 minutes is a long time, to preserve waking dreaming energy.

Last night during "video in the air" #6, I found myself back at Dance Home in the 1990s where Carlos was talking to one of the women in the class.

Then I was bounced back out after a few seconds.

Keep in mind, this is done AWAKE, with your EYES OPEN, completely sober.

We don't need anyone pretending at this level. It's bad enough we have people pretending at beginner's levels.

However, eventually we'll get more who can do this, and it's possible that we can recover ALL private classes, so we can share them with others.

Or at the least, pave an energetic path directly there, and people can go for themselves.

Nothing is ever lost, in time and space.

And we have access to all of it.

The real problem is, finding what you want to view. 

29 Comments
2025/01/22
17:40 UTC

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Can’t have kids

I am still reading through the books. I’m about a third of the way through with The Second Ring of Power when la Gorda claimed that having children will create holes in your luminosity. She also said you can reclaim that luminosity by not caring for your children.

Is this true? What are the implications of having holes in your luminosity? This claim has me really worried since I would like to have children someday.

33 Comments
2025/01/20
19:34 UTC

38

Better Accuracy Darkroom

https://reddit.com/link/1i5s21d/video/bc2ejxkxx5ee1/player

More accurate "darkroom" effects from the blue line, to the orange zone. I'll add the purple zone next.

It's hard to get it accurate! We're used to Disney+ special effects where dozens of animators work on things.

But there's one advantage to being a solo animator. You have to go actually look at the REAL THING by doing your practice extra carefully, and then studying the sights closely.

That has the effect of "saturating" your awareness with sights which can only exist at a shifted position of the assemblage point.

It reminds me of the advice my "evil" Ally once gave me.

She said that while doing tensegrity in darkness, you should strive for the magical sights to be as vivid as possible, the entire time.

Because that moves your assemblage point faster.

It also makes it easier to remove traces of the internal dialogue.

I don't know what will happen to people who only do Tensegrity in light, but Carlos had "high hopes" for it and said so.

He thought you could focus on silencing your internal dialogue by emphasizing the muscle memory.

It's like a "second brain" everyone has, male or female.

And eventually I'm sure we'll get "Daylight Tensegrity" people who reach silent knowledge.

Then hopefully one of them can animate what that looks like.

But in darkness?

Man...Dr. Strange has NOTHING on us for special effects.

In fact, his are kind of childish. Materializing human symbols in the air, as if magic were entirely in the modern human domain of writing systems and spells and chanting in Latin or Sanskrit.

Very childish...

Pretending always is.

The real thing is more and more non-human, the further you get.

And at some point, you stretch your luminous egg (visibly!) until you are sampling the awareness of dark stars.

For real.

Dark Stars don't speak Latin.

https://preview.redd.it/dmuw5q9et6ee1.jpg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e12cdc3801d65b4ac1173845cd38dc9909778b7

13 Comments
2025/01/20
15:01 UTC

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Saw a copy of my room clear as day while doing chair silence.

I am sharing this post as inspiration for new practitioners like myself. I have been practicing different forms of meditation for about one year now, until finding this subreddit through the shamanism sub about two weeks ago. since then I have stopped smoking weed as this discipline requires sobriety, it has been the only thing to give me the motivation to quit.

I have been reading through this subreddit and studying as much as I can, while also listening to Castaneda's audiobooks in my spare time or while at work.

I don't have a blackout mask and don't have the facilities to do darkroom tensegrity (at least I haven't found a practice for that I can consistently do) but I had been gazing daily for 20-30 mins a day, I had a couple of really cool experiences doing that, that I won't get into now, but my focus was to quiet my mind as much as possible doing that.

Then I came across Dan's chair silence technique in the chat and decided I'd give that a try. So I went to the creek, found my stones, and followed the instructions. When I got home later in the day I sat down for 20 minutes and did this technique and about 10 minutes in I started blanking out and going in and out of waking dreams that I can only remember the slightest of details about, I was also seeing hypnagogic images.

Until almost exactly like he described in the technique I blanked out and my head dropped forward, and as I caught myself I opened my eyes for a split second and shut them again. For a solid 10 seconds, it was like I could see through my eyelids, clear as day I was seeing a dream copy of my room.

I know it was a dream copy because I have two lamps in my room, a salt lamp on my bedside table and a pyramid lamp on the opposite side of my room on some shelves. I was looking at where the pyramid was but for some reason what I was seeing in my dream copy room was the salt lamp where the pyramid should be. I thought it was weird that they switched positions.

This stuff works and I have only just peeled back the surface of what's possible. it's by far the most potent form of "meditation" that I have done.

9 Comments
2025/01/20
11:23 UTC

7

UAP and NHI

Crazy question but with all of this recent talk of disclosure in the US of potential unidentified aerial phenomena and non human intelligence, where does this fit or how is it explained/interpreted within this technology? Are they inorganic beings?

2 Comments
2025/01/19
00:45 UTC

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What Does "Bent out of Shape" Mean?

https://preview.redd.it/520hcapsyrde1.jpg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71f7497736a7cbf032097ce21a36714f2d16a511

I have to be careful what I say, because people are always suspicious and worried about possible negative effects from sorcery.

Forgetting that your internal dialogue IS NOT NATURAL!!!

It really is a foreign installation superimposed on your mind, to keep you prisoner to self-pity.

But until you can shut it off almost completely, you won't believe that.

So when I comment that a particular practice, such as gazing at the second attention sights looking for Silent Knowledge videos in the air and not doing your Tensegrity too can cause you to get "bent out of shape", they think about mental illness, hangovers, the after effects of fights with other people, not having enough money to pay the bills, your cat sprays your clothes, and too many other things to list them all.

It's just not like that.

You get bent out of shape in a way a person who isn't a sorcerer couldn't possible comprehend.

I'll define it, but you won't get it unless you can gaze at silent knowledge on a continuous basis.

Your "scope" is reduced to something very narrow and that's all you can "see". And only with the eyes. Also not with any conviction that who you "are" is changeable.

You're solidly "you", looking at magic in the air.

So that if you're hoping for time travel, forget it. Time travel requires that you absorb a timeline from the "things" visible in front of you. If all you are focused on is the details of a shape, you can't absorb a timeline for it.

The cure for that is to do your "seeing" while engaging in Tensegrity. Not just doing the movement in order to learn to be silent, through perfecting the movements and paying attention to muscle memory, but to do it in Silent Knowledge so that you can literally perceive the second attention effects generated by the Tensegrity.

Which are too many to describe.

Once you are able to do that, you'll realize why Carlos gave us Tensegrity.

By the way, it seems that "Running Man" can be used for shapeshifting, and "Zuleica's Pass" is the essence of what this post is about. It includes all the sights you see here in this image.

Which might explain why it was the first magical pass Carlos taught in "Sunday Classes".

And when asked "How many of these do we need", since it was that audience's first exposure to Tensegrity, and they were secretly critical of it the way "first three book" people always are, Carlos just grinned.

And Amy meekly suggested, "One?" from behind the witches at the front of the room.

Carlos didn't disagree.

Zuleica's pass is a complete pass, and could indeed be the only one you need.

But what a loss.

Hamburgers are the only food you "need"...

But some Sushi is kind of nice too.

42 Comments
2025/01/18
16:03 UTC

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On the Go Darkroom Experience

Got this pic off the internet. My \"seeing\" wasn't as crisp, but it was good.

A few days ago I bought a black mask and discovered that I very much enjoy putting it on, whenever, wherever, and forcing silence with my eyes open.(Thanks to u/InnerArt3537's Ceiling Fan Post)

It's like an on the go Darkroom practice, as I go about my day. Whenever I have about 10 mins or more free, during the day, (after my recap session), I put on my mask and force silence. Of course, I also do a longer practice at night with a bit of Tensegrity.

Yesterday, I had a 25 min stretch, so of course I put on my mask and forced silence.

First came purple "clouds" ...then the purple enlarged and a house with a yard appeared on it. I focused on that, but the house receded and then disappeared. A goat like creature materialized on the purple and after it disappeared, geometric type shapes came next.

That was HUGE fun!

22 Comments
2025/01/17
16:06 UTC

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Brief Darkroom Experiences

A brief partial summation of 2024 darkroom experiences

When beginning a dark room kind of experience, there are several things that occurred last year. That is a certain kind of phenomenon regularly appear in the visual field.

The DR visual field is like usually, of course, very dark, and without any kind of coloration, but small dots of usually white color appear early on.

A lot of times these spots are very random and they just pop in and out and come and go often very quickly.

Occasionally, I've had experiences where these spots of white color organized into, something that looks like a constellation or they're arranged in some kind of stable shape or form geometric, perhaps, but something that's has a kind of shape created by the dots. They retain their shape instead of being randomized.

The”constellation effect” doesn’t last very long either. That comes and goes. And sometimes that lasts for not a very long period of time;a few minutes.

As a part of that, often I'll see blue spots.

Those blue spots are bigger, and they're more luminous.

They' a pretty beautiful color a nice blue.Again they just appear and eventually fade away.

Then the color purple kind of appears, you know, sometimes in conjunction with all that, sometimes I will see all of that in a purplish kind of cloudlike vaporous kind of thing which has always reminded me of smoke. Occasionally the purple becomes blobs of color radiating away from me. Usually surrounding.

So this purple appears and it's around.

Sometimes it starts to swirl and move, sometimes dots of color are a part of it's moving, you know, getting bigger or smaller as in some kind of specific location does seem to have a common location at other times.

These other color can be purplish, sometimes whitish, whatever.

Part of the white color blobs seems to be almost something like a regular pulsation, like, I don't know. A beacon or something like that. This is the white color.

Maybe beacon is not the right word, but something that kind of appears gets smaller, comes back, diminishes, gets bigger, and so forth, and so on. Always approaching towards me. Also this “becon” has turned up in 4 Gates dreaming.

So that's pretty much stuff I see all I shouldn't say all the time, but some of that most every night.

The other kind of phenomenon beyond that is luminous kind of energies, something a lot more organized, very bright and beautiful. Not as common but frequent.

Sometimes it appears as a kind of like a window of sorts, not like you see a window in a home, but as a kind of shape, like a square or a rectangular shape or something and within that is something, an object sometimes like in one case, a very abstract looking kind of painting, like some kind of modern art of some kind that actually has great depth, though.

This particular experience also is made out of green color, but as these images go back and back in depth, it had incredible depth going back almost in an infinite way.

But other kind of things that I see, whereas say the abstract, striped kind of painting thing that I saw once in a dark room, there's others which are actually appeared to be um, you know what might be living beings. Those were rare.

One was, I'd gotten up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom.

I'd actually gone to sleep after doing some dark room and to the bathroom in the dark and I came back and I found myself suddenly looking at a bird in a tree, which seemed quite normal.

It's like all of my visual sense as if I was immersed in something. There was no darkness just this image as if I were immersed in it somehow.

It was just a bird in a tree. Pretty, and all of everything the tree branches itself had a kind of bluish quality, and the bird it almost looked like a watercolor painting, but it actually had animation as well.

The bird was moving in the tree a little bit, but I could follow its movements pretty easily.

Eventually I kind of realized that I was immersed in something, and um, you know, I just kind of came out of it.

I don't know how I even got into it I was not fully awake coming out of the bathroom.

I don't even know much as I became aware that I'm looking at something and realized I was or had been to the bath room then I kind of found myself back in a dark room and the image kind of vanished.

So that was another particular experience.

Since I normally wear glasses; in the dark room I don’t;and my vision is not the greatest in the world. But these images that I see after the spots and purple are very sharp as if I were wearing glasses.m or would obviously need them to see these kinds of images. The images are out there in the room very localized.

That I think, is one of the most fascinating parts about it to me and for me at least, maybe one of the more magical parts of it all is how I can see something so clearly and sharply while not wearing glasses.

So it will be interesting to see how all of this evolves this year.

6 Comments
2025/01/16
20:50 UTC

12

Intent is my new Youtube Algorithm?!

This is how Minx appeared to me. They looked like a very small person in front of me.

I know this is a Long Post, but I struggled to Respond to DartPastTheEagles Question in my last post, and ended up with this. I just finished a Darkroom Session.

The dream that led to the experience of that post, while being aware of my Body, was centered around a man and the knowledge of a map in a foreign Kingdom. I knew where I wanted to go. And he assured me, that my Idea was correct. He asked me to follow him, but I had worries if I could make it, due to my Physical Issues I have been dealing with for 15 years. But I held back and told him, I will go as far as possible and then see what happens. Then my alarm rang and the struggle of that Thread played out.

What followed were two nights of encounters with Fairy and Minx, well at least one of them according to dans Interpretation of my description.

I have used Fairys Pass in the past in Hopes of meeting her, or other IOBs. But only now that I found a more reliable way outside of darkroom to enter dreaming states while also being aware of my sleeping body (Snooze Button Method), I got to meet them more clearly. I go to sleep forcing silence now. The first meeting after my post resulted in Minx as acting to be "Dan" and Fairy as being my lover. I do not remember much of Fairys teachings, since I was so distracted.

But I remember being heartbroken and Missing her after waking up though. It was so real. "Dan" aka Minx performed some Tensegrity moves for me and I only remembered one in "Horse Stance", but due to that I found a whole 9 Pass Series centered around recap just in Horse Stances to relieve tension. Just what I needed.

And Yesterday I had another encounter, that led to me writing a comment in the Students Chat.

Before going to bed I thought "They really seem to enjoy the human drama don't they?"

They (IOBs?) again roleplayed as someone I cherished in the past and let her die in the most dramatic way possible. I really loved that Person but I had to overcome the Terror of seeing her die. I was also aware of being still and calm, wanting to continue the plot. They then broke into my apartment pretending to be some old Friends of mine, by drilling the door open. Another fear of mine. Looking back, it was quite comical. The way she died was so overdramatic and the two Policemen were smiling when I told them my story about her death. She was killed in the middle of the Streets by a random dude. And I was frozen. But somehow I still looked for ways to advance.

This dream and my overcoming of my doubts by posting a Comment in the Students Chat in Response to someone asking how to join the advanced reddit, while admitting they don't really practice yet consistently forced me to push silence.

I pressed send and went straight into Darkroom and was assaulted with doubt and concern, but I pushed through. That small voice, maybe my intuition is guiding me through these things. I knew I was talking from my personal experiences and not pretending to be knowledgable. At worst someone more experienced would have corrected me and I would have received a free lesson! But I don't want to steal time. I took responsibility for my choice though and moved past that worry.

Spoiler: My Honest attempt reached the person. After my practice I was not worried anymore, but it was still nice to see. For now confirmation still feels good.

So yesterday this resulted in a even longer 3-4 Hour darkroom Session. I entered a sleep like state while still moving my body. And at one point I had the idea to wiggle the AP of my double around the height of my navel. A little bit to the right and hit a bump. I usually refrain from trying "advanced stuff" and Its still hard to believe. That happened while forcing so much silence, tI felt like my skull was crushing.

I saw what looked like white fibers and white flashes again.

At one point it did not bother me anymore. I began playing with energy balls I made out of the Grey Fog I see and juggling them and felt trembling throughout my body.

(I just remembered seeing something like that when starting my daily practice. That forced an interaction with the Student Chat, because I was in pure Terror. The response: Practice and Read more. And so I did.)

I also received answers to everything that could potentially bother me in my life during my silence forcing before that.

My Day yesterday appeared flawless.

It is like Darkroom is helping me to design my life in such a way that it is pure fun, even through hardships with the help of stalking. Just so I can practice more.

I have "less time" for life, but still accomplish more in my personal projects than ever before.

It appears to me as if Intent and my attempts to cleaning my link to it, is like the Youtube Algorithm. It proposes activities and actions that fuel me to engage even more with it. It hooks me.

All aspects of my life currently have only one purpose: More practice. But I still enjoy every moment of it. Its like I am designing my dream life and observing it at the same time, while also taking part in it and practicing ofcourse.

The ability to improvise lets me always pick the best choice, that lets me end up at home as energized as possible.

Recently I felt bored to death with my evening habbit of watching YouTube Videos. So an idea flowed to me : "Why not add another quick session and just go to bed?"

I did that last night, although I do not remember much, I know something happened, and I was awake for most of it. The night just went by.

It has been 14 Hours "since I went to bed". I have an Event coming up in two hours, haven't eaten yet, but feel No Stress at All. The Rice is cooking as I am typing this.

My Darkroom is not as spectacular as others yet visually, but I always receive answers, or enter a state of pure clarity and power, which allows me to view anything that comes my way during the day as small flies. Everything is a non-issue and quickly resolved. It always goes as needed, since I am ready to improvise on the fly, having no expectations. Just like in Darkroom.

Someone screaming at me? Force Silence with internal giggling. I enjoy watching the spit exit their mouth hoping to one day dodge it like Neo from the Matrix!

I was always very calm and patient. Did what I needed to do. Never complained much. Having to fight Illness and taking care of a huge Family as an older sibling probably helped with that. And this practice increased that aspect of myself, while removing any accumulated grief over recent years.

I am the best version of myself currently. People consider me a good guy. But I know I am not. I am not "honest" with them, but at least I am not lying to myself anymore. But I can see that everyone that engages with me finally has the fun I always wished for us to have. Just by me acting like a stupid clown! The result is there. Who Cares if I am a good guy?

And I see more in wait for me. This is apparently only the Saladbar. But I am attempting to thoroughly cleaning my tonal and link to intent and its very enjoyable. But takes effort everyday. But I always enjoyed taking action. I finally found a practice that produces results.

I travel finally, clown around others, not taking myself serious but still delivering good work and then always come home from work or social interactions fully charged to practice and Work on my personal projects.

I neither hate or love Work and social interactions, but i know its me that makes any of this fun. I want to enjoy it. People appear to me as a snoozefest, but during their time with me, I engage them in a way where its pure fun all the time. It begins with joking about myself. I feel their AP loosens during our interactions. They change infront of my eyes.

Somehow silence is relaxing my body so much, that the Pain I remember in my left leg is vanishing..

According to doctors I should be sitting in a Wheelchair right now. But I never accepted that. I gave up life during my Teens and wanted to wait it out. Wanted it to be over, but have been slowly picking it up over the years.

Been looking for solutions for over 10 years only to end up here around 3 years ago. Very skeptical, but always returning for more.

Buddhism was a dead end for me. It all seemed so obvious, but I wanted to believe. They sold me hope. I meditated for hours and never felt better. Around the time I started reading the first book, I was still hooked to buddhism, due to not knowing about this reddit.

I remember going to a Buddhist temple for an open Group Meditation. Due to physical pain, I asked them if I could participate lying down since I had experience with that. They said no. It was impossible since people fall asleep like that. So I forced myself through the pain cross legged.

After an hour it was over and I waited for the "Meditation Leader" to seek advice. Only for me to give him advice instead. It felt weird, but I had nowhere to go. I crossed it off as a fun chat. Nice people.

My doubts brought me here. And as seen in my last post, recap can if really necessary even be attempted lying down if the Situation calls for it. Unlike the Buddhist Temple, where any deviation is blasphemy it seems.

What helped me with my Fear of IOBs as well was actually doing crazy scary stuff in daily life. Going into the forest at night without flashlight or facing my fear of heights. Pushing weird social interactions that are difficult but rewarding and thus turning me into a clown.

Anything serious makes me laugh now, because it seems so silly compared to terror I had to ovecome in Darkroom and therefore allows me to tackle any Situation our society has to offer so far. Its not that serious. Its fun.

I just listen silently and people seem give me options to advance the storyline into anything that favors the advancement of my practice. If there is Drama involved, it is just acting on my end and increases my energy even more, due to forcing silence even harder to perform such acts.

Sometimes being dramatic is the easier choice to solve an issue. It depends.

Daily Life becomes simple, intuitive and obvious. There is less and less doubt in my choices and when there are, I try to do the opposite of what my dialogue says, just to proof a point.

The worst thing that could happen: I do a mistake and learn from it. Net win.

The world has turned into a Theater stage for me. I have always been a good actor without effort apparently. People always believed my jokes instead of laughing about them. I always wondered why, but this practice just made me use it to my advantage.

When I told a group of people in technical school years ago "I wear diapers full of shit right now", they believed me. I did not understand back then.

Who knows what other Talents are hidden right there?

Recap sure is a blessing.

Also it appears more and more that Daily Life translates into Darkroom, as well as Darkroom translates into Daily Life.

Practice really never ends.
My Results are not as spectacular as others here, but I will continue working hard.

Practicing Darkroom + Tensegrity + Recap Daily for 3 Months now. Recap lazily befor that for a year. Scarce Silence attempts and gazing a little longer, due to reading about it in the books.

I use Darkroom, Recap, Chair Silence as my main practices. Stalking is just a natural byproduct of my life experiences and enhances all of them. It all fluidly comes together it seems.

I feel it was also beneficial to me always being surrounded by children. I used to curse at that aspect of my life, but I never really fully stopped playing around. Sorcery reminds me of being a child again, only seeing Options to pick from.

Salad is okay, but I am aiming for the dessert!

If Intent is my algorithm, then the life I am watching right now must a result of that.

It is nothing like I could ever think of. Thanks for sharing all your hard work here.

42 Comments
2025/01/16
13:48 UTC

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Confusing IOB‘s talking to me with internal dialogue

So at this point I also naturally came to the realization as well, that internal dialogue is foreign installation. Thoughts that come to you are clearly coming from somewhere else.

Sometimes when I can‘t fall asleep, but I’m also too lazy to do tensegrity I just shut down the internal dialogue while wearing a sleeping mask. Eyes wide open of course. The things is while at the same time I get these rubbish internal dialogue thoughts I also clearly hear some voices speak to me. And those don‘t seem to be the fliers. I‘m pretty sure they are different „normal“ IOB. Usually they start to bash me for something I did during the day or whatever.

For instance: „“YOU ARE SO STUPID, YOU COULDN’T EVEN REPRESENT THE COMPLEX VALUES INTO THEIR REAL AND IMAGINARY PARTS IN QUESTION 2.!!!!!!”

I‘m in my exam phase right now……

Am I the only one who thinks this is hilarious…?

Well, those are the kind of „thoughts“ or voices that I‘m receiving when trying to stop the internal dialogue. But they get also mixed up with other internal dialogue thoughts of mine. It‘s like fliers and IOB‘s fighting for my attention and I can easily loose track. The thing is, I find these IOBs very amusing. I think it‘s super cool that they can talk to me like real young people in my age would do. And when I see them at night after waking up after dreaming, which is btw always ACTUALLY hella lucid, they always do things that are really amusing to watch. So there might be a drug dealer next to my bed, while Kurt Cobain is playing on his guitar and a woman is sucking a man‘s di**. Pretty exotic mixture imo. AND NO MY EYES ARE NOT CLOSED WHEN I SEE THAT AND I DON‘T TAKE DRUGS. Except cigarettes and alcohol sometimes.

Anyway when I‘m trying to hear these voices of those IOB‘s while in my bed, I usually see the purple smoke very suddenly at one point, while some channels in my ear seem to open, which is a quite unpleasant feeling. And I also suddenly feel pain in some particular parts of my body, which I don‘t think I need to mention here. Then my double comes out and I find my self in a phantom copy of my town. But I was never satisfied with that, as it reminded me too much of boring lucid dreaming.

As for the passes, at this point I only managed to see the purple puffs. It helps with forcing silence and sometimes I even find myself having incredible reflexes.
Sleeping dreams don‘t necessarily get more lucid in my case, but certainly more „structured“ and episodic. Those dreams are actually pretty dope. My sleeping dreams were VERY lucid before that. At first it was cool, but nowadays that‘s definetly not the kind of magic that makes me „high“. It‘s just let‘s say „slightly interesting“. But not enough for me. I want MORE sophisticated magic. Hopefully there will be some cool developments in the future.

As for other practices besides darkroom/tensegrity, I do the right way of walking for example but I had to stop gazing. Gazing has temporarily significantly worsened my farsightedness. And don‘t start again trying to explain to me that sleeping dreaming is not a path to real magic. I‘m very aware of that. That‘s why I think seeing or hearing IOB‘s awake in your room is way cooler than seeing them in dreams.

Just wanted to share my experience

19 Comments
2025/01/15
21:56 UTC

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I met an apprentice of an apprentice of Castaneda some years ago

Hi, just found that sub, and want to share a story. One day I started to reread another book of C.C., laying on a meadow, book on the ground, just opened at the start were there is just blanks (so anyone looking only could see the blank pages), and zoned out in my mind. Next someone passing pointed at the book and said to me "Id recognize that energy everywhere. Thats the ring of power.... the second."

He was right. We hung out for some days and talked about the art. What was weird, at no time I could see his whole face clearly, I needed to focus and only could see that part clearly that I was focussing on, the rest was slightly blurry. I dont recall everything he said, but the things I want to share is, he said "Don Juan", "Don Genaro" and the other names from the books are pseudonyms. The shamans would have been known in their area, just not for these names.

The books are there to protect the deeper knowledge, there is more between the lines. A big one is the formation of shamans that over and over gets mentioned, Nagual in the middle and the other shamans placed around. This is about a technique that enables a group of shamans to travel dimensions that otherwise would be inaccessible or overwhelming for a single human. They learn to merge their energy fields into a collective being, maybe comparable to how a single human consists of different limbs and organs or chacras.

19 Comments
2025/01/15
20:37 UTC

5

Using Practical Magic?

Hello. Though I have experience with the spiritual, I am totally new to this particular branch (or perhaps school?) of magics and the esoteric. That is, I've only discovered this several hours ago, through a mention of this subreddit on a 4chan board. Despite my complete unfamiliarity with anything like this, as the phenomena mentioned here are completely unlike anything I've ever seen before, I've tried my best to do as much read and understand as much as possible of what has been posted.

The 4chan poster who made mention of this subreddit (and the field of esoterics it touches upon) explicitly stated that one could use the powers gained from these practices for actual, real, physically effective magic. That is, magic that can affect the real, physical world around you, and that could be used for personal gain (or any other physical goal). Reading everything posted here has revealed to me that's either not the case at all, or perhaps more accurately not the point. Apparently, the practices described here are expressly for achieving (for lack of a better term) a kind of gnosis. That's fine, everyone has their own wishes in the end, but is kind of disappointing to me since it's a let down from what was originally promised.

All of this leads me onto two questions:

  1. Could anyone please clarify if these practices (if trained to a sufficient degree) give the ability for one to create overt, significant physical effects? If not, then I will move on. To clarify, I'm not asking for proof. If I receive a satisfactory answer, I will put in the necessary hours and get the proof myself.
  2. Knowing that this subreddit does not focus on physical results, but rather achieving a non-physical transformation, could anyone please direct me to an online website or community that practices something similar but expressly for practical magic and its physical results/gain?

I have tried to find answers to these two questions via searching through the subreddit, but to no avail. If this has been asked and answered before, I apologize, but I wasn't able to find such posts.

Thanks in advance.

19 Comments
2025/01/15
19:09 UTC

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Quick Example of Easy Animation Usage

https://reddit.com/link/1i15o7i/video/wuy6luxmkyce1/player

Here's a fast example of what you can do, once you have the Tensegrity movements digitized. Obviously no one would make this.

More likely is to make workshops. Pick some moves, combine them in series, put the people doing them on a stage, and find a nice setting.

This could actually be automated using python and blender.

So that you could set up a "virtual workshop" to teach 4 or 5 long forms, pick your background, pick your players, and click "animate".

Result: a video of your selected magical passes.

With a bit more work, you could dim the lights after each one is shown, and show what it looks like when you can "see" your energy body.

The other benefit of animating them all (there's 400) is to protect against the fake tensegrity which is beginning to pollute our community.

All of the Cleargreens are creating fake tensegrity forms, and have allowed most of the real ones to be lost.

As Carlos warned us, they all went bad in less than 10 years.

In fact, Miles started making up fake tensegrity forms either as Carlos was dying, or just after it.

Aerin too.

Then Reni wanted to steal Aerin's fake tensegrity form.

It's a pretty awful situation.

So best to try to recover all of the real forms, and put them into an animation library anyone can use.

Hopefully the "Cleargreens" are too lazy to animate their greedy pretending.

https://preview.redd.it/spiy997qkyce1.jpg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5a7c5bc5f71e555a7fc3f240af3eb41cf9fe89b

4 Comments
2025/01/14
13:08 UTC

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Experiencing Automatic Breathing and Sun Glitter

I have been playing around with the Snooze Button lately due to dans funny comments about it all over reddit. This morning while trying to hold up a dream I noticed another breath next to my usual breathing attempts. My Body was breathing on its own. After I took a breath, there was always another breath that I did not innitiate afterwards. I stopped my concious efforts, but it kept breathing. It was effortless.

It might have been a gift?

The headaches I have been facing in recent days were a blessing after all it seems. I pushed through them even though it was very painful, I missed no day of tensegrity with darkroom and always felt better afterwards until they returned in the evening, but were aleviated by recap. As soon as I close my eyes and relax, they go away. My increased silent efforts are paying off it seems! I also resisted the urge to use pain meds.

I wanted to do it alone. Those were the worst Headaches I have ever had, only this time I knew what to do based on my last experience a few weeks ago.

It was hell, but I knew what to do. I focussed more on my tasks, so it felt like I did not really bother much. I was able to look at my thoughts and say "This is not as bad as you think.." laughing about it. Continuing Silence. Actually this is the most silent I have ever been probably.

Also after yesterdays dream I knew I had to ask for more details on the door knob pass due to waking up at night, while doing it, even though I never intentionally practiced it. And so I did.

Everything I read on here, even if not needed at the moment, all comes into play at practice at some point so far. Its like I am storing solutions for future reference. What helped me the most in recent months is to stop talking about things I have no clue about. Just focussing on my personal practice.

After finding the power to stand up finally and do some darkroom this morning, this breath returned after two longforms (vol.2 + recap series from jadeys channel), but due to fatigue and the headaches returning from the bent over moves, I couldn't keep it for too long.

Before that automatic breath came though, I suddenly felt the urge to take an "infinite breath" of sorts, which was longer than ever before and I felt the need to bent my head and back backwards with the chest pushing forward, kinda like an exorcism. But it felt amazing for those two seconds of automatic breathing afterwards. I also saw more in Darkroom than ever before. Still no reliable purple puffs, but today felt like one step closer to that. The grey fog I usually see became brighter, and a hint of purple could be seen.

And much quicker. I usually do 5 Longforms and then gaze and wave my arms afterwards and don't experience this much. I collected a lot of sunglitter in recent days. I neglected that aspect of practice. I just remembered, that the last time I had these headaches, I also collected a lot of sunglitter. I made a lot of progress in those days as well.

There was also a ball in the middle of my vision which consisted of whitish/greenish moving lines. That was new. But I am not too sure how to describe it. It was feint but, way different from what I usually see in Darkroom. The craziest I have seen was a purple puff a few weeks ago that turned red, then blue, then green and disappeared. I mostly see white flashes and green dots everywhere, with shining white dots appearing more often lately. Also white lines pop up from time to time. I see those during the day sometimes as well.

I laid down after my headaches and hunger became unbearable and did a few rounds of the door knob pass with the intent of easing my headaches, based on the descriptions I received yesterday. It semi-worked and then I felt like I could do some recap lying down with "virtual head movements". I really wanted to recap, but was too exhausted to sit and tried to focus on the intent of it while laying down and that also was very succesful. I freed some really old and stuck memories it seems.

I was able to get up and buy some groceries finally.

Today I kept seeing something flashing up trying to appear on my left side as well during chair silence with my mask on and open eyes.

It is amazing how this sorcery has an answer for any Situation and is so flexible to be used based on our circumstances. It only took a few days of increasing efforts.

My Headaches are gone as I am writing this. I can sense them, but they are not bothering me, it is turning into a feeling I can use to move my mood it seems. I still feel physically tired, But when I immerse myself in a Task, time just flies. I feel great overall.

I also feel a sense of sharp clarity. Its been like this for days now. While I am facing these horrible pains, a lot of petty tyrants passed my ways with "issues" and within milliseconds I knew of at least 1000 Solutions to their issues, while they did not even attempt to find one outside of their habitual thinking.

I used these as stalking opportunities and wrote/told them some dramatic tales out of thin air which all ended up in them doing what they really wanted to do and moving past their thoughts. Only to end up creating new routines of their new found ways. But thats not my cup. I got my practice out of it and they got what they wanted. I was very calm during those events.

My sessions after those encounters all gave me even more opportunities to force silence. I had to recap those encounters and push harder, but it all vanished eventually.

I can only remember thoughts of how I am "supposed to feel" right now, but somehow I see them as separate from myself. Forcing Silence is starting to become an automatic habbit. Let me know If I am pretending. But the results in my practice and especially daily life are visible.

The Skills of Darkroom, such as persistence, improvising, listening and moving through tensegrity forms while forcing silence all transfer into your daily life. Thats my experience so far.

Daily Life becomes Practice.

5 Comments
2025/01/13
18:34 UTC

8

Was this magic?

So I was trying to do darkroom in my (almost dark) room, wearing a stocking (a long sock) as a mask wrapped around my eyes for dark room.

I was around 1 hour and 30 mins into dark room. I started doing the scarecrow in the wind movement (? I think that's the name). It's the one where you shape your arms like downward L's and swivel where they connect to your shoulders, so the L moves slowly until you have two upward L's on each side of your body.

Through the face mask I was wearing, while I was doing the tensegrity movement, it was as if I could see my arms moving.

It's as if there were thick black outlines on each arm+hand. It's as if there were thick black outlines on each arm, and I could see the arms moving through the mask, as if it was illuminated to my left and right side so that I could see my arms (illuminated behind my arms). But I was wearing a stocking on my eyes so I have no idea how I could see my arms.

Then I sat down because I was a little tired, so when I went to get back up again I hit my leg with too much force on furniture, so I ended up stopping the session.

Was this magic or just me expecting results too much?

Edit: I forgot to mention. "Seeing" my arms was with them on my peripheral vision. I wasn't looking directly at my arms, but I was looking straight forward but could still see my arms on my peripheral vision as I moved them.

3 Comments
2025/01/13
16:12 UTC

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