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Bropill: A subreddit for encouraging positive attitudes, wholesome memes, and what it means to be a bro.

Bro just don't be toxic bro! Rules:

  1. No spam, advertisements, or offtopic talk. Advertisements will be removed unless approved by the mods. Celebrate, ask advice, post memes, and discuss what you want, but stay on-topic.

  2. Being a bro means respecting others. Address why you disagree with someone, don't resort to name calling. Keep discussion civil. No backhanded insults or sarcastic remarks.

  3. No bigotry. No discrimination based on race, sex, gender, sexuality, physical/mental status, relationship status, or religion. Trans bros can still be bros, regardless of if they're men, women, both, neither, or somewhere in-between. Respect people's identities, names, and pronouns.

  4. No promotion of harm to others or yourself. Whether it be mental, emotional, or physical, Bropill is not a pro-self harm, pro-ana, pro-mia, or pro-violence sub. Talk of these subjects is permitted, but encouragement and glorification of them are not.

  5. Men have problems too. Don't dismiss them with other groups' issues. Despite having privilege in most societies, men can still face issues unique to them. Dismissing their issues as irrelevant or fake will not be tolerated. Remember, men can still face prejudices and unfair societal standards.

  6. No doomposting or venting outside of the "Vibe Check" thread. Venting posts and posts that are overtly depressing/bleak (doomposts) are not allowed outside of the weekly thread.

  7. No dating/relationship posts outside of the "Relationships" thread. Post your dating/relationship queries in the Relationship-related pinned thread.

  8. Do not promote Red Pill, MRA, MGTOW, or male supremacist talking points and content creators. There are enough spaces for that kind of hatred, and we're not going to be another one.

 

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2024/11/10
18:36 UTC

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Need help escaping incel ideas

Hey bros Im looking for some advice about a problem i have been having. Im 17(M) and currently in what i think is the european equivalent to college. Im a generally happy guy with plenty of male and female friends and i have had plenty of romantic relationships. I have always had a very radical left view of the world.
This is why it has been bothering me recently that i would find myself agreeing abit with the incel “heightism” content that gets showed down my throat on tiktok once in a while. Im 5’9 (i think i don’t understand your system) which is not short but below average where i live in europe.

What recently really sparked this problem was the horrible speech by Nick fuertez. I hate that guy so much and so do alot of other people. What kinda got me was that there was alot of comments like “nick being 5’9 makes so much sense”. I can’t help but feel like i am being percived as worth less or that it’s a part of who you are as a person how tall you are.

If anyone else have been dealing with similar thoughts or have any advice i would love to hear it!

1 Comment
2024/11/10
21:09 UTC

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What do you guys do when you're at rock bottom?

how you guys cope

13 Comments
2024/11/10
17:37 UTC

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We really need online male role models!

That’s the tweet. To counter act all this hate. Could you guys set one up on YouTube it could be like you are sitting around a pub table like anyone would do with friends. Something that my dad likes is the bob Mortimer show with Paul Whitehouse and they go fishing together. It feels like you are included in a friend activity. I thought maybe that would help the lonely men out there who also need positive masculinity. Like a round table for Camelot.

From a black girl.

Edit: I didn’t expect this to be popular thank you! I have read all your responses and am grateful. I also agree that combining online and offline sources of group male support is very key.

Also I will research into oligarch sponsorship, algorithmic hoarding and data-voids.

45 Comments
2024/11/10
00:37 UTC

104

Bros, how do you find partners?

How do people balance wanting to be a safe person who isnt looking for partners in everyone, and also not wanting to be single? Cuz i have this paradox where, as far as i can tell (im obv not a woman, im just going off what i’ve heard from women)

A. As a woman it’s a very negative experience to have a friend you see platonically confess to you (which makes sense) B. Women dont want to be randomly hit on (which also makes sense! I imagine it’s a really gross feeling to be hit on by someone you don’t know)

I just… dont know what the first step is.

I’ve found I’m a pretty charismatic person, and can strike up conversations and make people laugh pretty easily. I just dont know how to get to any bases, past waiting for a woman to have interest in me to start. And I 100% am the stereotype of guys being super oblivious to signals.

I really want to be desired but I dont know how to check or ask without seeming like a creep or desperate.

(Fyi im a minor so dont recommend meeting people at clubs/bars plz :p)

PS i also have terrible luck with the people i form crushes on turning out to be gay. Thats neither here nor there, i just wanted to share

69 Comments
2024/11/09
17:53 UTC

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bros, I need help meeting new people

so, I'm in college right now, and I'm older than most of my peers, since I entered two later than most

in the city I live and study at there's practically only this college and there's only engineering courses there, and I feel like I don't fit exactly well there

I have a single genuine friend there, but we're friends since high school and we only hang out when our other friends come to our city, so not often

other than him, everyone else I know isn't exactly a friend, but more like a classmate I can talk to sometimes about college stuff, and I tried inviting them to go out sometime but no one wanted to do that, they'd rather hang out in their friend groups and with their partners

there aren't many parties, places to go, stuff to do, so most of the time I'm just going to class or in my room, and I really feel like I need human contact, but I don't know what to do, any help? I just want to meet new people and make some friends if possible, but I really feel like I don't fit here

7 Comments
2024/11/09
17:22 UTC

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Weekly r/BroPill vibe check! How are you doing?

Hey bros! It's time for your weekly vibe check. How are you doing? Anything you're struggling with? Do you need advice, or would you like to share an achievement with us?

23 Comments
2024/11/09
12:00 UTC

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bros, how can i stop being a 30 year old incel without turning into a pick up artist?

thanks to the bros/bras taking the time to read this.

I am a university graduate, former college athlete, current gym rat, and got a great fulfilling career that also pays well.

I dont have issues making friends as i have a lot, but mostly dudes and maybe their so's but majority men friend base.

i dont like to drink alcohol so please dont suggest bars or nightclubs.

I am pretty nice to everyone in my community and people find me easy to talk to because im laid back and make others laugh easily.

I dont want to approach women which is why i specifically stated that i dont want to turn into a pick up artist. i want to be desired and chosen by a women who sees me as a high value and sees the work that i have put in to be my best possible version.

but since i turned 30 and have no experience i think i am an incel but i dont want to be .. please help.

358 Comments
2024/11/09
07:54 UTC

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I want to have a hoe phase in a responsible, respectful manner. Any advice on how to go about it(Kinda long post)?

This didn't seem like a relationship post, so i decided to post it here. I hope its correct.

For a bit of background, i'm 21 and bi. I grew up religious, and i never even knew what sex was. I still get so nervous when my friends ask if i masturbate, or if i have a crush or similiar.

I'm from an immigrant family, and were they are from people don't do the whole dating thing. The expectation, for both men and women, is to arrive until marriage, commonly an arranged one, chaste and have your first sexual experience on your wedding night.

While i never wanted an arranged marriage, having grown up in the west, i still had the idea that you only have sex when you are in a LTR. Recently something changed, and i started wanting something different.

I want to have some kind of hoe phase. I want to explore my sexuality, find what i like, be it with men or women. But i want to do it prepared.

I have some hangups about it that i want to resolve. I want the experience to be enjoyable for both me and my partners. I'm going to be honest to the other person that i'm interested in something purely physical. I have heard from many people how they felt lied to and used when the other party only used them for sex. I want my partner to enjoy it like me.

Until recently i was very inept when it was about sex and relationships. And i have many holes in my knowledge about it:

  1. Do i have to take them out on a date? As the man, do i have to pay? Does the dynamic change in any way with same sex people? How much money should i be prepared to spend? I have heard said that dating is expensive. Is hooking up too?

  2. I'm a virgin. How much is it going to impact? Do people that want just sex seek a more experienced partner? Do i have to tell them of my level of experience?

  3. Do i ask people at bars and clubs? Dating apps? Other places?

  4. Hookups are different than relationships in that looks seem to matter more, from what i understand. I am not exxactly bad looking, fairly average. I'm not overweight, but have some fat on my stomach. Is it going to impact my chances in a big manner? I started excercising recently, so should i wait until i'm better shape? I'm not that much afraid of rejection, but if the probability is next to none, maybe i should wait.

  5. I know about condoms and other types of birth control, but is there any extra advice on being safe? Should i ask if they have any STD? When is the best time to ask?

I'm sorry if this feels like a long list. Like i said, i'm not very experienced, so i'm trying to get as much advice as i can.

I also would like some advice, if they feel comfortable in answering, from women that frequent this sub. Like i said, i want my partners to feel safe, so if you have any advice regarding that or any other thing on my list, it is appreciated.

32 Comments
2024/11/08
17:45 UTC

121

Nerd bro

Bros, are nerd bros welcome here? I want to tell you about an inspiring quote that has been helping me get through tough times.

Aurë entuluva!

That's elven for, "Day will come again!" It's spoken by this really amazing dude Hurin who fights an epic battle and loses, then goes through a series of hardships and tragedies. How does it end for him? It's a bit ambivalent, but it's tragic and heroic at the same time.

25 Comments
2024/11/08
08:03 UTC

42

Weekly relationships thread

Hey bros, we have noticed a lot of relationship related posts. We are not a relationship advice subreddit, but we recognise how that type of advice may be helpful. Please keep relationship posting in this pinned thread.

65 Comments
2024/11/06
19:00 UTC

203

Bros, it’s time to step up (if you can)

I’m going to try my best to stay within the rules and choose my words carefully. First and foremost, take care of yourselves, bros. If you need time to process, time to feel, or just time to disconnect, please take it. Treat yourselves gently and don’t make any decisions you can’t take back.

If you’re feeling up to it, now is the time to be a support for others. We all have people in our lives that are probably hurting right now, especially women and folks in the LGBT community. If you have the emotional bandwidth, check in on the people you know and love today and over the next few days. Listen and empathize, and let them know that you will be there for them. When times get tough, we need to rely on the people who support us, and be a support for others when we can.

I love you all, bros. Be safe and good luck.

52 Comments
2024/11/06
13:45 UTC

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Am I making the right choices (CW: abuse)

I hope this fits here and doesnt belong in some specific thread.
Over the past decade I have lost atleast two friends, breaking contact with them after finding out they were abusive to their partners. It felt like an easy choice because none of them seemd to regret it, and tried to excuse it or flat out deny it despite evidence.
Recently another third friend just broke up with his gf and it seems really messy. He admitted to hitting her, but as opposed to other (x)-friends he openly regrets it, admit it was wrong and that he should not have done it. Some context (NOT EXCUSE OR JUSTIFICATION) it seems she has been very manipulative towards him as well, trying to control his money, over diagnosed him and made him take medicine he should not take etc. and gaslighting. my friend also has plenty of trauma from his childhood.
He explains his lashing out as a trauma response from panicking, while still maintaining that it does not excuse what he did.

I have explained that I am extremely upset and dissapointed, but I will help him move so they can separate properly, and help him financially if he needs it (struggle with jobs/income) but I also made it clear I want him to seek help and talk to a therapist/psychiatrist - not just for his own trauma but to properly address his anger and why he became violent. He agreed that he needs professional help.

I cant shake the feeling that im being inconsistent. Am I keeping a friend despite doing something that I ditched other friends for doing? I want to help him if he is ready to address everything and become a better person. But knowing what he has done, it feels weird. Do you all think im handling it correctly?

4 Comments
2024/11/04
15:40 UTC

82

how to detach self worth from superficial attributes

Hey bros, I (21M) am really struggling with my self image at the moment. I personally do not see myself as a valuable man because I fear I don’t fit into the superficial standard of what an “ideal” man should am a 6’1 white guy, which does fit into the “ideal”, but I am probably a 6/10 in the face, and pretty skinny, which goes against everything that men are supposed to be rigid and built and tough. Mean are also supposed to be assertive and loud, while I am more laid back and soft spoken. Men are supposed to be “providers” and make lots of money, while I am pursuing a career choice that I am passionate about, but alas probably won’t make tons of money. This is heavily affected my confidence in the dating market, as I see dudes around my college campus who do look like that and then I automatically remove myself from the dating scene, asking myself why would anyone want to be with me if those guys are out there? I have been told all my life that I am funny, kind, emphatic, and . But for whatever reason I feel like these traits are an afterthought when trying to date as I feel I will be automatically excluded due to the things I have written above. I come to this sub as a way to help deal with these thoughts of worthlessness and lack of value in the dating market. I come to this sub for positive masculine support in dealing with these issues. Thanks bros for helping me out!

41 Comments
2024/11/04
17:13 UTC

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Overcoming loneliness tips?

Hey bros, I'm really trying to do the work and show up for myself but I have moments where I doubt myself in my own journey and feel intense loneliness. In response I tend to pathologically seek validation from dating apps or reconnect with people I should leave alone. Well, not as much.. But I do go through benders of gaming and dating apps.

What I want is to connect with people but I deeply want romance as well. What I need is self love but I feel like I can't commit enough to it. For bros out there who feel loneliness, how do you cope? How do you deal with your own shortcomings?

7 Comments
2024/11/03
17:03 UTC

28

Identity crisis

What’s up guys, so I’m having a bit of a identity crisis with myself. So my whole life I’ve been making car drawings and I’ve done pretty well with it but recently I just haven’t had the motivation or drive to continue. I’ve tried doing different styles of art and overall I just can’t seem to want to do it anymore. I want to create and I love the thought of being able to create stuff and I have ideas to do other things but without a job it’s put a pause on my life. Looking for some advice and ideas to get into something because I want to still be able to create something / or build something but I just don’t know what to do. It’s like I’m trying and forcing myself to draw but I feel I’ve outgrown it and I’ve gotten a following on instagram and I don’t wanna just leave everything. Although the thought of sitting down and making more are just doesn’t appeal to me anymore. I’ve considered doing model cars or getting into some type of other car related hobby but right now I’m just trying to make peace with my identity. If you have any advice on what you guys do to find your purpose and reason to live I would appreciate it. I feel bad everytime I think about art and me not wanting to do it anymore and I just need some guidance as to where to take my life now.

10 Comments
2024/11/02
23:07 UTC

168

I want to understand the ‚Manosphere‘ better

Hey Bros, I'm fascinated by the so called 'manosphere'; the part of the internet where misogyny, toxic masculinity and far right ideology meets. It's such a multidimensional world and I'd like to understand it better. How's Joe Rogan connected to it, what lies behind the intel movement, how do people get trapped in it or build their identity around it? Looking for studies, books, documentaries investigating this phenomena. Personally I see one of my best friends drifting into the manosphere. He doesn't date since years, consumes lots of ufc and joe Rogan content and kinda gave up on sex. We do have conversations around it but I'd like to understand the appeal of this world better

182 Comments
2024/11/02
13:18 UTC

145

I'm the only guy in an all-girls friend group. Make your questions

Most probable questions/answers:

Q: How did you get there?

A: I changed from one school to another, and the class I got in was practically all girls for some reason. There were a few guys, but I didn't wan't to approach to them as they were into drugs, gambling, etc., and they didn't practucally assist school anyway. Also I was (and still am) open-minded about friendship between men and women, as they were. Also I didn't wan't to be alone.

Q: Are you gay? (this question annoys me, but I know someone out there will ask)

A: No, I'm bi.

Q: Did you like any of your friends?

A: Yes, I liked one of them. I even told her, she said it was mutual, and we dated twice. But it didn't go anywhere from that. We were friends in a group, so it was akward, and none of us was emotionally mature at all. Never again.

Q: How was it?

A: Well, we had our differences. I didn't share the same interests for conversation as them. I was commonly the quietest of the group. Also, beeing the only straight guy in a group full of women (I came out of the closet to them only a month ago) was really a subject for jokes. But it went kind of well. We had fun and build great memories together. We've been friends for almost three years now.

Q: Did it change your perspective in something?

A: I had already been aware of what women suffer in the world and our society, but talking about all of this constantly and directly is a whole other level. I think I empathize with women more than if I hadn't been in this group. I could've been an idiot with women without knowing it.

110 Comments
2024/11/02
12:16 UTC

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Weekly r/BroPill vibe check! How are you doing?

Hey bros! It's time for your weekly vibe check. How are you doing? Anything you're struggling with? Do you need advice, or would you like to share an achievement with us?

33 Comments
2024/11/02
12:00 UTC

76

How do I stop getting scared of rude people?

Hello bros,

First, I want to clarify that I am going to bring this issue up o my therapist in our next session. It is not until a couple of weeks and I need startegies to cope till then.

I panic whenever someone is rude to me. Whether it is shouting at me, judging me, or be condescending to me, my mind inmediately freezes and I start to shiver. I feel like crying. I just freeze and nothing in my brain works.

This especially happens with authority figures, specifically female authority figures. If someone is yelling at me and is an authority figure, I just don't know what to do. Like whenever I watch movies or TV shows that show these "tough" or high-performance bosses, I get very uncomfortable. For example, The Devil Wears Prada, Wolf of Wall Street, Suits, etc.

All my favorite authority figures were extremely friendly people who were patient and chill. My professors throughout university have been very helpful people who just wanted to help and not abuse power.

I am going to start a new job and I need to learn how to ground myself if someone is rude to me. I don't want to freeze and let others walk all over me. I am never afraid when someone is trying to physically hurt me. There were many instances where guys tried to push me or pick a fight but that never scared me. I stood my ground and told them to back off. But if someone is yelling, rude, or condescending, I just freeze.

How can I stop freezing? How can I ground myelf when I have a panic attack? How can I stand my ground when someone is yelling at me? How can I call out someone who is trying to abuse their power?

I want to be successful in my career and I don't want this to limit my potential. I want to be able to learn with different kinds of people. Any books, podcasts, YouTube channels, or anecdotal techniques that work, all are welcome suggestions. Please help me here!

18 Comments
2024/10/31
11:40 UTC

36

Keep building each other up, you never know when someone could really use it.

1 Comment
2024/10/30
23:14 UTC

162

What's your mom's "mom lore"?

Inspired by an AskWomen thread today by user "thatwallisbrown" --

Mom Lore (Noun): the random/insane/funny/sad stories your mom tells you about life before she had you

87 Comments
2024/10/30
22:31 UTC

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Weekly relationships thread

Hey bros, we have noticed a lot of relationship related posts. We are not a relationship advice subreddit, but we recognise how that type of advice may be helpful. Please keep relationship posting in this pinned thread.

31 Comments
2024/10/30
19:00 UTC

198

Had someone buy me my drink this morning

I've been having a bad few days, payday isn't until Friday. I dropped my daughter off at school and on my way home dug the last of my change out of the car. Stopped at dollartree for a cold soda and the guy in line ahead of me bought my drink and said "have a nice day". I've never had someone do that for me before. Made my day. Thanks MVC Guy, it meant a lot.

8 Comments
2024/10/30
16:42 UTC

62

Public transport.

This question feels like the answer should be obvious, but I'm still kind of unsure.

I'm amab and relatively masculine looking with beard and all. Now when using the tram or busses I noticed that women tend to more often sit down next to other women and thought it might be about feeling safe. I then started to wonder if I should avoid sitting next to women in order to not make them feel unsafe.

Can yall help me on this?

30 Comments
2024/10/30
09:18 UTC

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Had to share this stupid fun thing I did for my partner

So I’ve been with my partner coming up on 2 years. A few months into our relationship she was having a tough time so I went to Walmart and put together a little care package. I didn’t really put much thought into it. Just grabbed a little Lego set, some favourite snacks… and a cheap stuffie (for the record I know this all looks juvenile but I solemnly swear we are adults. Just one of those times that I felt she could use a bit of an escape from all the stressful adulting in her life)

Unexpectedly she became VERY attached to the stuffy. When she’s sad or sick or just needs a little pick me up this toy is close by.

So I’m watching her love on this cheep thing and if it keeps getting this much attention it’s going to be worn to rags eventually.

So.

I looked up the upc on the tag and it turns out the same toy is still available on Walmart online. I’m not a fortune teller so I don’t know if this relationship will last forever (I hope it does!) but 10-15 years from now when that toy is a sad stained flattened husk she is going to get the surprise of her life when I whip out a brand spanking new fresh replacement from out of storage. I can’t wait…

Edit: this is my first post ever in this sub and… I am genuinely shocked by the positivity here. I don’t think I’ve ever been anywhere on the internet in my life that didn’t turn into a cesspool when more than 3 men get together. Mods, posters, lurkers, everyone else: hold on to what you’ve got here. Y’all rock.

31 Comments
2024/10/30
03:22 UTC

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How do you find friends bros?

I recently went to a wedding with my partner and during our idle chat during the reception she asked who my groomsman would be when we get married. I realized I didn't have any friends I could ask to be my groomsman. This wasn't a sudden realization by any means. I knew I didn't have any real friends for some time and I didn't mind it I don't think until now. Just something about realizing I don't have any guy friends (outside my dad) to share a moment like that with just hit different I guess.

Onto the actual question, how do you bros find friends? I have always been pretty introverted and isolated so I never really learned how to 'make' friends. Do i just gotta like..go to bars? I found my partner online, is their an online friendship app? I genuinely have zero idea.

33 Comments
2024/10/30
05:43 UTC

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Who are your real-life role models, and why?

Hey bros. I'm AFAB, non-binary, and increasingly feeling drawn towards masculinity - I'm wrestling a lot with whether I'm comfortable with the 'trans' label, to say nothing of "transman". It's all wrapped up in childhood stuff as well as having all the baggage that comes with having been socialized as female for the first 30 years of my life. It's hard, but I'm working on it with a therapist.

One of the topics that's come up in a lot of conversations is this: I feel like we're all inundated with both fictional and real examples of toxic masculinity. When it comes to what I'll term Good Bros, I can name some fictional examples, but I find it a lot harder to identify real-life examples. My dad's a good enough guy -- but he's a Boomer and a product of his generation and has a lot of hangups about things like expressing his emotions, which drives me crazy. I definitely don't want to be the sort of bro who's afraid to honestly express my feelings!

So I'm curious - who are the real-life men you look up to, and why? Whether it's specific things they do or a general approach to life, I'd love to hear about how they earn your admiration.

(And for what it's worth -- my ultimate fictional role model is Samwise Gamgee from Lord of the Rings. He's a man who has the emotional intelligence to know when to fight and when to hug and when to take ownership of his mistakes, he has the courage to actually do it, and he literally will walk to the end of the world and then some to help the people he loves.)

22 Comments
2024/10/29
21:06 UTC

92

Bros, how can differentiate between signs that you shouldn’t do something and signs that you’re encountering an obstacle to overcome?

Edit: To be more specific - and still somewhat broad - I guess I’m talking in terms of life aspirations: getting rejected 1000 times on a stalled career path, trying to decide if you should move on from difficult family/friends or accepting you’re the toxic one, learning a new skill or accepting you’re not good at it, trying to make new connections, etc.

I’ll reply to more of these comments after I get done with a nap and a workout.

37 Comments
2024/10/29
15:56 UTC

135

I just confirmed that I forgave myself

Hi Bros! It has been a while. But I'm having the most impactful and empowering feeling ever.

To give some context I was a niceguy (the bad kind). I'm thankful that I never did anything stupid or that caused major harm to anyone, but I tried to be manipulative. It took me a while and a lot of effort, but I was able to fix myself and nowadays I think I'm just a regular guy. I still keep an eye on myself just because I'm still scared of who I was.

During my darkest days, I lost a friendship with a girl due to me being a manipulative POS. It has been 10 years since I last spoke to her, and I thought that I didn't forgive myself. I did apologize to her years later

Guess what? I have a graduation today. And guess who is sitting in the same table as me? I feel a bit awkward, but the hatred is not there... I just feel nothing outside of feeling awkward.

I'm proud of myself bros... I think that I was finally able to forgive myself.

9 Comments
2024/10/27
02:25 UTC

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