Was thinking about Saul's BB era mansion we see in season 6 and was thinking about how it seems made to entertain, given its size, but we never really think of Saul having a social life. Do you think he threw parties or was he more of a shut in and the size of the mansion was just a status symbol?

Kim tried to get Jimmy to see a therapist.She was the one who needed therapy.Kim needed to deal with her awful childhood.When she moved to Florida she needed therapy to deal with her part in Howards death.Instead she wasted 6 years of her life by not dealing with it.

The plot twist in the character arc of Howard Hamlin truly felt like a punch to the gut. He was always the nice guy. He helped out Kim with her education. He even wanted HHM to have Jimmy on board as a lawyer, even when Chuck did not see his potential. But in the end? Jimmy and Kim destroy him.

Here’s a guy who’s already struggling at home, barely holding things together. Work was his one safe space. And then they take that, too. What I fail to understand is why Kim & Jimmy did that to him? He wasn’t perfect, but he definitely did not deserve that ending.

Why in the shootout scene in s5e10 lalo just didnt die? Like, gus literally hired his BEST hitmen, and they somehow died so fucking stupidly?? This is so unbelievable, is lalo really that experienced that he somehow can take a whole hitman squad withou any trouble?

Ive seen so many people, especially on tiktok, saying that saul is their favorite character, angel himself, best character in entire universe. What the actual fuck is wrong with these people? There is literally zero reasons to like him, he is a fucking piece of shit, i absolutely hate him. Even Lalo is better than him omg. Are there actually smart people who watched better call saul and dont think that saul is a good character?

Ok, maybe im actually stupid, but can you guys actually explain how exactly is saul any deep except being a complete piece of shit who makes people around him die and protecting the same shitheads in court?

I thought Jimmy managed to get Sandpiper settled back when he was manipulating the old people and telling that stuffy two shoes "who cares I'm rich" or something.

In s5 e10 kim and jimmy are talking about it like it isn't settled?

I'll start with mine

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And wow what an episode. I honestly can't stop thinking about it. I was going to binge watch but after I finished that episode, I just wanted to let it simmer in. Maybe start 1 episode a week.

I was on season 2 episode 2, when Mike went for a visit at Nacho’s workplace! Holy shit, I didn’t notice his face previous!

I like paying attention to everything and considering how everything in this show means something. But sometimes some things stump me, like this one. I haven't finished the episode yet, so maybe they clarify it, but why do you think they wrote this in? Is it just a detail to make the show realistic, i.e Kim just made a mistake? Is it trying to tell us that Jimmy is better at law than we expect out of him and he predicted better than Kim? Something else? Perhaps I'm looking to much into it but I feel like they brought attention to it on purpose since they mentioned it thrice, including when chuck mentions the tape against and puts emphasis on how it was destroyed.

Besides Jimmy's complicated relationship with his brother Chuck, Jimmy and Kim's tragic romance would remain some of the most compelling Arcs that drive the story forward and define Jimmy's character from here on out. It was heartwarming to see how much Jimmy and Kim try to support each other and so sad to see how it all ends.

I feel like Kim is the true reason why Jimmy wanted to be a lawyer in the first place. Sure, Chuck gave Jimmy a job in the mailroom at HHM. But I get the feeling that Jimmy was okay with it at the time and didn't have anything better to do. But then Kim came aboard and Jimmy saw how impressed she was by Chuck and found out how she was working towards being an attorney. Not wanting to be left behind, Jimmy decided to pursue being a lawyer and well the rest is history.

There are two things Jimmy wanted most in life which is the respect of Chuck and the love of Kim. And after the death of Chuck, Kim remains the one moral anchor in Jimmy's life where he draws the line regarding how his actions might affect her and looks to her for guidance. Which she does not appreciate as she is already struggling with her morality as it is.

After Chuck tells Jimmy how much he doesn't care about him before killing himself, Jimmy was greatly worried that Kim feels the same way about him and eventually lashes out at her. Kim has to scream at Jimmy how much she cares about him and would stick with him no matter what. Even when Jimmy decided to go all-in as Saul Goodman, Kim went along with it as long as he seems happy and even gave him some pointers on how to make his whole new persona work.

What really confuses me near the end of the show is Kim telling Jimmy why she didn't tell him about Lalo being alive. Because she was "having too much fun" and was worried that Jimmy would cancel the scam and take her away with him to protect her in which case they will break up. To me, that just seems like a pretty ridiculous reason not to warn Jimmy about a deranged cartel murderer on the loose which had very bad consequences for all of them. Was Kim really that addicted to scamming that if she doesn't get her hit like she wanted, she would fall to pieces?

And no, I don't count Kim going out to try and shoot Gus in order to save Jimmy as an ultimate act of true love and I don't think she would see it that way either. A lot of people seem to ignore how traumatizing it is for a deranged psycho to blow out your former boss's brains on the spot and then order you to go and assassinate some mysterious rival of his or her boyfriend gets killed. And it is all moot anyways considered Kim and Jimmy break up afterwards.

Anyways, did Kim truly love Jimmy like he loved her? Or was she only in it for the scams? Was there any possible way their relationship could work out? Was there anything they could bond over besides scamming people? There has got to be something they could have fun over besides scamming people like watching movies or something. They seem to like doing that together when they are alone at home.

What I find fascinating about this show is about how it takes the Law and Love, two core values that seem nice and precious to have, and then show the dark side of them when they become the only things that matter to people beyond common moral decency.

Do you think being in love with someone and doing anything for them is a good thing? Jimmy and Kim seems to think so at first. But then it got damn ugly and they ended up bringing the worst out of each other instead of trying to support teach other.

Do you think there was any way that Jimmy and Kim's relationship could last if they tried to better themselves? Or was it all doomed to fall apart in the end?

What did you guys think?

definitely not the most common way to relate to him but as someone with autism and adhd i really resonated with how he didn’t do well in high school not out of wits but out of lack of motivation, his inability to sit still, the way his brain ping pongs to thing after thing, even the way he talks with his hands! definitely not the intended way one was supposed to see saul but i weirdly felt heard by his character

All I can say is I HATE CHUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!!

So one thing I don't get, when lalo takes video of the lab, it looks nothing like a meth lab. There's just construction equipment and dirt. How would Lalo use this as proof? Other than proving that Gus was building something without Eladio's permission - which could be passed off as a bunker or somewhere to hide from the cops. It would look really suspicious but is that enough to kill the cartel's best earner? And if Gus hadn't been at the laundry, how would Lalo have found the secret entrance?

One thing BCS really gets is that whole corporate, dry, stuffy, bland, robotic, humourless world. It can feel like a prison. I think the writers brought their own dealings into it. Examples:

That malpractice insurance lady and her fake sympathy for Jimmy

Howard's schmoozing of clients (to be fair this is a real talent of his)

Erin's wet blanket character in general. The teddy bear bribery. (the actress is great)

Kim's exile to doc review.

Kim is drawn to Jimmy because he offered some excitement. Chuck resents Jimmy because no matter how much he accomplishes, he'll never connect with people or make them laugh the way Jimmy does.

What is everyone's ranking of all 6 seasons? Seen as every season is strong, this could be difficult.

Im not saying that guts and blood has to be everywhere, but when I watched this show I've noticed it avoiding showing so many gruesome moments by putting it off screen or the camera panning away, It only shows rarely. It doesn't ruin the show for me or anything but imo it kills the impact that so many scenes could have. In breaking bad it showed it how it just was.

Also sooo many characters feels so strangely polite. A lot of the Characters (not all) are either the kindest person you've ever meet or a goofball Too the point where it feels unrealistic, unlike bb where the world felt more 'natural"

Im probably nitpicking but Again, this does not ruin the show for me or anything it's just something I've I noticed and thought was strange

"A dog that constantly bites its owner can only be disciplined firmly or put down" Gus says about Nacho, the guy responsible for crippling Hector, the man who blew his lovers brains out, is helping him deal with his current problem in lalo, all the while HE HIMSELF is currently plotting to take out out his own boss.

You'd think he'd be a bit more receptive to Nacho, and instead he acts like the guy fucked his mom

For example, Engineer or IT guy Jimmy. Since he argues the reason he resents Jimmy is because the "law is sacred" and he can't trust Slippin Jimmy as a lawyer. Or would his narcissism/complex still flare up about Jimmy moving up in the world and out of the mailroom?

Walter is the only one to whom Saul said that he might end up as a manager of a Cinnabon in Omaha which he did end up becoming. I have a theory that when he landed in Omaha, he thought to himself that there's a chance for him to get back into the game if everything works out for Walter and starts cooking again, he'd know where to find Saul. But obviously that never happened, and he found out Heisenberg went out with a bang.

Through out BCS or BB all we see is him being stressed and panicked! Not only him but Jimmy & Walter too.

Did they ever enjoy the wealth they made? Nope. They were always worried and stressed out. Shows you what this kind of money brings!

Analyzing the series and studying a little psychology, I noticed something that I want to share with you. Jimmy McGill was an unlucky lawyer, with anarchist tendencies, but he didn't have any problems other than these and his complicated relationship with his brother. His mental state was normal, like that of any other American. His downfall begins with Chuck's suicide, which he initially reacts to incredulously, later admitting the fact, but not his guilt. He knows he is not responsible, but his actions triggered the event, which makes him feel guilty. It turns out that he represses this guilt, throws it at Howard, refuses to mourn Chuck for everything that scoundrel did to him and even more so for the last words he said to him, but he is still mourning, after all, he is his brother. This internal conflict persists throughout the fourth season and in the fifth it seems to disappear, but it is still there, proof of this is his hatred towards Howard persisting, projecting his guilt and also the vision of Chuck, plus everything he already felt about Howard, onto him. McGill's ego remains firm, slowly giving in to his traumas, such as the shooting, almost dying in the desert, Lalo's pressure, Howard's death and the final straw being Kim leaving him. When Jimmy goes through this, he has reached his limit, the only way he could still prevent the depression within him from emerging was through a long-lasting manic episode. The Manic State is that good-humored state of the bipolar, which can last days, weeks, months or even years without interruption, in which he is upbeat, more energetic, more talkative, impulsive, agitated, characteristics we see well in Saul. Saul Goodman is not another personality of Jimmy's or a defense mechanism exactly created to protect him from reality. Saul Goodman is Jimmy in his manic state. The manic state is always followed by a depressive state, no matter how long, and manic episodes that sometimes last decades tend to have as a consequence depressive states that are more or less as long-lasting. After the loss of the stimulus of the legal profession, Jimmy's high wears off and he falls into an equally prolonged depressive state. This state is his life as Gene. Does what I'm pondering make sense?

After Kim left and Jimmy goes into his Saul persona did he ever actually have a moment of happiness

I’m sure you know what I mean. Watched Solo? It answers such asinine questions as ‘how did Han Solo get his gun?’ Answer: someone gave it to him.

My nominee and the only one that really stands out to me is how Krazy 8 got his name. Why is he called Krazy 8? Because he folded on a trio of 8s. That scene was truly absurd.

Anyone else and examples?

I always wonder if he was happy. I personally think he wasn't. He always smoked and drank. The smokers and drinkers I know aren't happy at all. Especially whisky drinkers.