https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/pit-bull-attack-leaves-schoolgirl-34098391

The mum of a schoolgirl left scarred for life in a dangerous dog attack has hit out after the beast was allowed to live. 

Little Rose Dempster, 5, was mauled by the pit bull-type mutt while she was on a play date at her pal's house on September 11. 

The out-of-control animal ripped into her face - leaving her with injuries to her mouth, eye and ear - as she played on a swing in the garden of the family home in Bishopbriggs.

Her mum, Gillian Dempster, recalled the sickening moment her daughter returned home with blood pouring from her wounds. 

The 40-year-old explained: "Rose appeared at the door with her wee pal's mum and I almost collapsed at the sight of her. She was covered in blood.

"I screamed, but I must have been in shock because I immediately went into survival mode and took Rose inside and phoned an ambulance.

"The woman told me the dog had jumped on her but she didn't say anything about it biting her or anything. 

"But Rose told me the dog escaped from the house and charged towards her. Then it pinned her down and clamped it's jaws on her head. 

"She was shaking and just kept repeating that the dog had bitten her. I started to wipe the blood off her face but I saw that her ear was hanging by a thread. 

"She had cuts all over her face and scratches over her body.

I knew then that we were lucky we were taking to the hospital and not the morgue. This dog could have killed her."

Rose was rushed to the Royal Hospital for Children in Glasgow. She received stitches to her wounds but medics have warned that she may still require reconstructive surgery on her face. 

Gillian has now slammed authorities who have decided not to destroy the dog. 

She claims the police told her that they had limited powers to act because it was the first time the dog had attacked someone and the incident took place on private property. 

The furious mum added: "This dog has to be destroyed. It left my daughter scarred for life. 

"Are the police going to wait for it to kill someone?

"All the children in the area are at risk because this dog is left to roam around in the garden. It could escape at any minute.

"The owners also have a wee boy the same age as Rose, so I don't understand how they can live with that dog in the house knowing it is capable of attacking a child at any minute.

"I told the police that I won't rest until something is done about it."

"I promised my daughter that I would get justice for her and now we have to continue living with this dog in our street.

"I am going to see a lawyer about this and won't rest until something is done about this dog."

Primary one pupil Rose also been left traumatised by the attack and is set to get counselling through play therapy at her school.

Gillian continued: "Rose hasn't been herself since this happened.

"We don't know how severe the trauma is going to be at this stage but she has been having nightmares and can't be anywhere near dogs. 

"She is petrified if they come anywhere near her and that is a real shame because she grew up with a dog in our house."

Rose's attack comes after the Record reported last week that five-year-old Teddy Kerr who savaged by an XL Bully in Paisley as he visited the home of family friends. 

Gillian said she now believes that bulldog breeds should not be kept in domestic environments. 

She added: "I love dogs but I just don't know why anyone would want to own an animal that is capable of such aggression. 

"All these dogs should be banned, but at the very least, they should never be allowed anywhere near a child in a domestic setting."

A Police Scotland spokesperson said: " Around 8.40pm on Wednesday, 11 September, 2024, officers received a report of a dog attack on Tresta Road, Glasgow.

"Advice and assistance were given and the matter was referred to the dog warden.”

A Glasgow City Council spokeswoman said: “Under the Dangerous Dogs Act, the police are responsible for investigating serious incidents such as a dog attack on a child or another person.”

Someone asked about what was the moment you were sure you were going to die but didn't. I experienced a mauling by a pitbull foster in 2023 in the middle of June. I wrote my story in several comments, but I thought I would make a master list of the reasons why I got mauled, the propaganda that led to my mauling, my family's stupidity, and how this led to me being angry.

Immediately, every time I tell this story on whatever platform, I get messages of "Oh, it's because she was a rescue." or "Well, you shouldn't have had your hoodie up; she was abused uwu." or they give me tips to jam my fingers up the fucking beast's ass so it lets go. I should never have to do that, and how do pitnutters not see that the whole concept of me having to insert my finger into a dog's rectum so it stops mauling me is insane? I had someone accuse me in person that "It's your fault you didn't shove your finger in the dog's ass, it would have stopped then, and your screaming was probably making it worse." That was from my best friend, and we are no longer friends. I face-timed her in the hospital, and she had that audacity to say, "Well, it's all how they're raised."

Note: my parents are idiots in general. The bully breed issue was just the top of the cake of their stupidity, and they have a particular spot in their heart for stupidity involving animals. For a brief history, my stepmom is a surgeon; she works a lot and went out and got ten goats, no pen, all mothers and babies, and one adult male, and said she would milk them daily. That has not happened 9 months later, and due to her refusal to geld them, now all of the females are pregnant by either their sons or adult male goat. Despite being warned, she decided to cohabit male drakes with female hens, and she thought her being raised on a farm would somehow prevent the inevitable from happening. What I had warned her of happening had come to pass, and she had the audacity to cry to me about it. My parents are This type of person; they cannot be reasoned with until bad things happen.

I was a, "Oh, it's how they're raised." Till I got mauled by one in 2023 that my stepmom had decided to foster because she's a bleeding heart for propaganda; immediately after the sob story started, my parents had no idea how to handle a strong dog with behavioral issues. Their idea was to smack it when it was aggressive, which worsened everything. It was simply too strong, my parents too stupid, and a combo of actual abuse and a by-mess made for a disaster. My stepmom had a hard-on for bully breeds, specifically bulldogs. She wanted a bulldog, but our area bulldogs were 2,000+ dollars, and she's cheap. Af settled for the most affordable and available dog since I quote, "It's the same thing."

Ironically, the one I wanted to foster ended up being an adorable purebred bull terrier that had been given up due to the owner being unable to pay for the skin medicine and was well trained since it was owned by a former serviceman (again naive). Still, she got pissed because it looked "too pit bullish." So she came home with this actual abuse by a fighting dog from a humane society that shut down because there was no staff, and it came out that they were physically abusing the dogs. I guess society had taken away her puppies or her puppies had been "taken care of" by the person who surrendered them.

That dog was never wired right. She climbed the 7-foot fence twice, and my dad was terrified she was going to bite the poorly supervised kids next door, even though the parents were methheads. The final straw was when I was letting her out to go potty, and I was leaning over the well we had to clean out some leaf litter. She knocked me to the ground, tore open my hoodie and sweatshirt, and punctured my throat and shoulder. My screams had my neighbor(a different neighbor, not methheads) find me, and I thought I was going to die. I hadn't been around her much; she freaked me out, and she had already torn my clothing twice before. My neighbor ended up beating her off with a large, heavy metal shovel till she stopped. Luckily for me, because I was bulked up with heavy, heavy sweaters and a hoodie, the ER techs said that because the two layers were both thick and ill-fitting, that probably helped that she couldn't get a super good grip, especially when I was punching her in the face by the time I had squirmed around because she had attacked me from behind. I still had several deep punctures and bled a lot, but overall, I was lucky.

If you guessed that when my parents freaked out and called the foster society to get this adult child mauler, I WOULD BE BLAMED, and then they WOULD IMMEDIATELY BE ASKED TO FOSTER ANOTHER ONE. You'd be correct. I was blamed because I was *wearing a dark hoodie; we think she was abused by men in hoodies. Your kid should have never put their hood up so the dog could see her face* and *this one isn't fit for you* was said as an excuse. They came, picked her up, and tried to beg my parents to foster another one, which ended up in my parents ghosting the foster because they were relentless in trying to convince them to take another one. I've been taking multiple messages a day for weeks! It's been over a year, and they'll still contact them twice a month or so.

My stepmom and dad ended up with a Belgian malinois, and that's a whole other story full of their stupidity. They initially tried to adopt one that had mauled a cat, knowing we have animals that count as prey and activate the prey drive. That one fell through, thank god. I got a different one that's too smart for her good, but she's smarter than my parents. She'll dance on my last nerve, but again, when she got aggressive, we took her to the vet, and they fixed the issue immediately, and she was back to her happy self immediately after she was healed post-procedure. She also never latched on or shook me; she would growl, "bite," then walk off to be pissy by herself, but she never drew blood. It ended up she had broken a tooth, and once pulled, she's now my happy little crackhead, as long as she's in her kennel before 8 pm because my old folk parents have taught her that 9 pm is the latest she can stay up. She'll throw an absolute fit if she's not given access to her kennel and bed by 9 pm and allowed to tuck herself in. It showed me the innate aggression between the pitbull and another dangerous breed. Pitnutters gaslight me into "oh well, it's cause she's a purebred." My dog isn't. She'ss a rescue from a by situation with 'papers,, and she's half German shepherd. That opened my eyes to the fact that they'll lie to justify anything regarding their breed.

My mauling was preventable. My father ironically, was an anti-pit person until my stepmom put his balls in her purse and threw a fit about wanting a dog. They now complain about their dog, so I call it my dog. They are not animal people, they're not dog people, and they are pissed because I'm not moving back to the funny farm to take care of their animals. If it were up to my stepmom, she would have adopted that dog on sight, but they required her to foster for a month. That pitbull made it two weeks before mauling me, and she still says that it's because Maize (the pitbull) was abused. Finally, after cashing up a few grand in medical bills because I threatened to sue if she didn't pay them, my father has taken his balls out of her purse and put his foot down - there will be no more pit bulls.

Why do I think the pitbull diseases has made my stepmom lose her mind? What makes pit bulls so alluring? Simple - in her case, a savior complex, trauma from her own life, and how she can get one to match every shade of her ugly ass beige and eggshell cream walls.

I think a part of it is the "ball python complex" and part of the "axolotl" issue. Ball pythons come in many colors and are easy to breed. You can essentially breed it and buy it. Other than a few special ones, ball python patterns are cheap, which people breed for and immediately go cheap. It's the same with bully breeds - look how they've merled, brindled, and lavendered and fawned pit bulls. You want it, they'll breed it.

Another problem is that bulls typically have litter anywhere from 8 to 14, and they can breed two to three times a year. Ball pythons also produce massive clutches but can only be bred once. Another thing, if you're breeding for a particular color, even if you know both parents carry it, it's a random crapshoot if you do get the colors you want for that litter - each puppy is a genetic roll of the dice, you could have 1/14 get it, 4/14, it just depends. There's no guarantee that you'll get the color you want. So you breed again and can do this multiple times a year.

Axolotl issue? The media pumped out that they were endangered, especially since they became the Minecraft endangered species. So it became "save the axolotls" (ironically, captive-bred axolotls are inbred to hell, not endangered. It's the natural axolotls in the wild that are endangered). This led to people getting axolotls with no idea what they need or what their care requirements are due to the savior complex, but these axolotls need proper care. Every day, the media says, "Save that says, a poor uwu dog's life." We go to the shelter, and 80% are bully mixes.

"It's okay; pit bulls are misunderstood; they act this way because of XYZ; you'll work through it once they settle in. Otherwise, they'll be getting pink juiced." Then, the guilt sets in. No average person wants an animal to die. Besides this dog has been "abused", behavioral issues are supposed to happen. They do with us humans; why wouldn't we do that for a dog? We need to have empathy like we would a person suffering from trauma. We've anthropomorphized these dogs (as people do with companion pets), so we give more allowances for violence and misbehavior from the start, compared to if a polar bear mauled a child, people would be up in arms with pitchforks. Look how they get when coyotes appear in their area, but they built the suburbs in the prairie, and the coyotes haven't bothered anyone. They have to go! They cry because those animals aren't humanized. It's the same with bully dogs.

My stepmom saves lives. That's what she does with her surgeries. Every time someone dies on the table, it hits her HARD. Pitbulls feed into this savior complex she has always had, her empathy, and her trauma of having an abusive first marriage. She has no desire to see anyone die; if she did, she wouldn't be in a field where her job is to prolong it and return to the quality of life, and I know those fosters preyed on that. Every pit has a sob story, even if they were in a loving home it always ends up being a "they were given up because this girls 'abusive' ex made her choose, boo hoo" or "They didn't want a baby around a pit." or "they're misunderstood." In this way, the pit bull problem has become a reflection of people's humanity and goodness, at least in most cases where a general, nonscummy person goes and adopts one from their local five-and-dime shelter.

We all have trauma, and pit bulls are spun as having trauma. So immediately, people with empathy latch onto that, that savior of the downtrodden and depressed, we'll heal together narrative. We, as humans, anthropomorphize everything, even things that give us no emotional feedback - cars, Roombas, the space drone on Mars that sings happy birthday to himself alone every year, and even plants. We give even more of that 'spark of humanity' to things that can provide us with positive feedback, making us give them emotions and moods. It's probably part of the evolutionary kickback that prevents us from abandoning our babies during early infancy because those creatures are helpless. Still, because of that mechanism, we care for them despite only getting negative feedback in the first few months before it develops a positive feedback loop.

Very few pitbulls give off only negative feedback, and even if they do, if they're in the puppy stage they can be considered cute, and the behavior overlooked. Till they get bigger and bigger and bigger. The difference is that positive emotion that most pits give off tends to make people overlook shitty behavior in a way that similar to that of a toxic relationship. "oh, he's not all bad all the time, only when I get to close to his food." which sounds hauntingly familiar to "oh, he is really nice when he's not drinking." It is literally a cycle of abuse, savior complex and trauma that keeps these dogs alive.

The weekend ended with an alarming episode of violence in the Santa Cecilia neighbourhood, in the southeast area of Salta. A young 27-year-old mother was brutally attacked by a black pitbull. The incident occurred on Sunday, shortly after 10:00 p.m., and shocked the neighbours, who came to her aid upon hearing her cries for help.

Antonela, the young woman affected, recounted in an interview for the program Que Pasa a la Mañana the distressing moments she experienced. She explained that the attack was triggered when she tried to protect her little daughter. "The dog tried to grab my daughter and I, when I tried to cover her with my arm to defend her, ended up being bitten in the side," said Antonela.

The woman lost consciousness during the attack and does not remember many details of the incident, although she was grateful for the quick intervention of the neighbours. "When the dog broke away, it was held, but then another person took it away. According to what I'm told, it had already attacked other people," she said.

https://www.theprogress.com/news/traumatized-children-witness-attack-on-family-dog-in-langley-7646160

A search is underway for the owner of two dogs that attacked a family pet near a Langley school, inflicting injuries that required emergency surgery.

Murrayville resident Julie Cullen and her two children, aged four and two, had gone with Len, their King Charles cavalier/bichon frisé cross to the playground at Glenwood Elementary around noon on Sunday, Nov. 10 when two off-leash dogs attacked.

"One big one lunged at me and my dog," Cullen described.

"It just kept biting and biting and ripping. I screamed and screamed and screamed, for what seemed like forever while doing everything in my physical power to stop the dog. My kids never got hurt, thank goodness, but were screaming and crying in fear."

Cullen described the two dogs as two pitbull crosses.

Then, her husband, Daniel Allingham, arrived.

"My wife was covered in blood and urine from our dog," he said. "She was in tears and in shock while the other dog owner blamed his dog for jumping out of the truck."

As Allingham was attending to his family, the dog owner, a 5'8," 200 pound Caucasian man who appeared to be in his 60s, left after Cullen told him to get the attacking dog.

"He took off because I told him to get away as he was making no attempt to leash his dog," she said.

"I didn’t want the dog going after my kids next."

Allingham asked some Good Samaritans, women who had come to his family's aid, to get information from the dog owner, but the man didn't stick around.

He drove off in a newer black GMC pickup, heading north on 208 Street. The family didn't get the license plate number, but said it appeared to be a special B.C. parks plate.

"As they [the Samaritans] went to speak to him they yelled 'stop,' and he rushed away," Allingham recalled. 

Len was rushed to the Willowbrook Animal hospital for emergency surgery for multiple injuries, including torn muscles in his back.

His recovery will be a long one," said Cullen. "The vet bill is in the thousands.

"My wife is beside herself," said Allingham. "She’s always been of the mindset that all dogs should be leashed especially at playgrounds. Our children have been traumatized [and] are afraid to look at our dog with his wounds after a lengthy surgery."

Len will be six on the 23rd, Allingham told the Langley Advance Times.

"[He's the] happiest guy ever, wonderful with kids or dogs," Allingham described. "Just wants to smile and play with everyone, or at least he did."

"We hope to locate this individual so that he can be held accountable for his dog’s actions so that this never happens again," Cullen said

Jayne Nelson, executive director of LAPS (Langley Animal Protection Society) said animal control officers are looking for the owner of the two dogs.

"We'll probably be increasing patrols in that area and talking to more people," Nelson said.

"We have ways of being able to trace people," Nelson added.

"It's amazing how community can come together, and just talking to people, eventually, sometimes you'll find a name."

In some cases, Nelson said, owners of offending dogs have even reported themselves.

There have been other incidents this year in B.C. where owners of attacking dogs have attempted to evade responsibility.

In August of this year, an unleashed dog attacked and killed a Langley family's two-year-old poodle-maltese cross. The owner fled the scene. Vancouver police are investigating.

In April of this year, in Victoria, the owner of an attacking dog avoided a $1,500 veterinary bill by providing what turned out to be an out-of-service phone number.

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Going back to the owner's FB, the attack appears to have happened in 2019. And the circumstances seem different - on her own FB, she seems to imply that the attack featured her own pit bulls.

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I came across this in the comments section of another person's dog-on-dog attack from May 2024, and tracked it back to the owner's FB. The attack appears to have occurred in March 2024. The attackers' breed is in one of the comments below.

Bella's head post-attack

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victim, post-recovery

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https://www.wesh.com/article/pit-bull-kills-yorkie-injures-owner-debary-florida/62898200

Two adult men intervened immediately to try to stop the pit bull. Both were unsuccessful. The smaller dog was killed. The pit bull bit three men - the owner of the Yorkie, a neighbor who helped and the pit bull's owner.

Article text, bolding added.

Florida pit bull kills yorkie, severely injures owner in vicious attack

VOLUSIA COUNTY, Fla. —

A DeBary yorkie is dead after police say it was attacked by a pit bull Wednesday morning. Robert Buitron saw it all happen and tried to save his neighbor's dog.

"We started yelling at the top of our lungs," Buitron said. "Somebody, please help us."

Buitron said he was crying for help after a pit bull escaped from a nearby home and attacked his neighbor's Yorkshire terrier, Cannoli.

Before Buitron stepped in to help, he saw his neighbor Mike trying to wrestle Cannoli away from the pit bull's mouth.

"He was on the ground, fighting the dog, and he was getting bit, and he was getting bit, and he was getting bit," Buitron said.

Cannoli's owner did what he could to save his dog.

"He has a one-track mind," Buitron said about the pit bull. "...one track mind, and for some reason, his own goal was to kill the dog."

Cannoli died within minutes, and the owner, Mike, was left with several wounds.

"I think he had some bites on his leg," Buitron said. "I think on the stomach. I know that one of the skin was hanging off his elbow, you know? He took a hell of a beat."

Buitron himself had a few scratches and bites from when he tried to intervene. One other neighbor did try to spook the dog away with a metal rod.

"When he hit him in the back, he bent the pole, and that dog yelped," he said. "But that's it. The dog was fine."

Both Buitron and the dog owner went to the hospital for treatment. Animal Control is now investigating the incident.

The pit bull is on a 10-day quarantine and the owners could face charges. Officials said the owner has inquired about euthanasia.

Just found this subreddit and joined right away. I’ve been a dog owner for most of my adult life, and as a result, I’ve been around a lot of dogs, whether at dog parks, on trails, or interacting with other dog owners. Initially, I was skeptical about the concerns some people have about pit bulls. But over time, as I witnessed more incidents at dog parks and heard stories from others, I noticed a pattern: many of the issues seemed to involve pit bulls.

Despite this, I always tried to stay calm and avoid showing any anxiety around pit bulls, knowing that dogs pick up on our body language. Most of the time, that approach worked, but sometimes, it didn’t. In May of last year, it really didn’t.

My dog, a sweet 75-pound shepherd mix, was with me and my wife at the park. While we were sitting on the ground, a female pit bull suddenly came running up to us. My dog was leashed, but this dog had slipped away from its owner’s young daughter.

When a strange dog approaches, I try to stay relaxed to avoid sending any signals that might alarm my dog. At first, both dogs seemed friendly and playful. But without warning, the pit bull snapped. No provocation, no reason. It just lunged at my dog. He defended himself initially, but eventually turned away, and that’s when she latched onto his tail. Hearing his yelps of pain and fear, my adrenaline surged, and I kicked that dog with all my strength until she finally let go, just in time for the owner to grab her.

Of course, the owner swore this was the first time and insisted she was usually so gentle. I told him what I thought about that, then called the police. Unfortunately, nothing came of it. No follow-up call, nothing.

Seeing that pit bull snap out of nowhere completely changed my perspective. I just don’t trust them anymore.

By the way, my dog wasn’t seriously injured that day, thank God. He ended up passing away a few months later from cancer at the age of 12. He was the sweetest boy. Just thought I’d share.

BSL supporters, how do you feel towards pit bull rep in fiction and in media? Am I overreacting by disliking even fictional representation of pit bulls?

Media and fiction plays a big part of how people view the world. "Fiction is fiction" is true, but we can't ignore that fiction can also normalize certain stuff, especially if it's unclear that the views are supposed to be strictly fictional.

For example, TV Tropes (a sort of Wikia site for fiction and media) lists pit bulls under Dog Stereotype as...

Pit bulls (staffordshire bull terriers, American staffordshire terriers, and American pit bull terriers) are often portrayed as invariably savage and ferocious. That stereotype is the very reason they are the biggest targets of breed-specific legislation (BSL) in Real Life, though this has been declining in recent years as BSL has been increasingly repealed. In older works (and even many newer works, due to pit bull activism becoming common in the 2000s) they tend to be portrayed as Ugly Cute dogs who are good with kids and are often portrayed as patriotic Gentle Giants, much like modern American works portray German Shepherds. The Nanny Dog myth has since been abandoned by pro-pitbull organizations since it led to owners taking irresponsible actions with the dog (as no dog, let alone one with a high prey drive, should be left alone with children). Staffordshire bull terriers are sometimes stereotyped as British, especially in older works.

I have also seen posts on here critiquing media like "Kitbull", "Chance", "Sgt. Stubby: An American Hero", and "A Dog's Way Home".

I like the author of "A Dog's Way Home", but I don't always agree with his views. I take his books as purely fictional. You shouldn't get dog advice from a "talking dog" xenofiction book or film. Still, I view the book differently than I did a few years ago when I first read it.

For those who don't know, the book revolves around a mastiff or rottweiler mix named Bella who gets taken from her home and almost euthanized due to being mistaken for a pit bull. The book has a lot of anti-BSL and pro-pit bull rhetoric in it. I guess it's supposed to be educational. I believed much of it at the time, but then again I still believed WSAVA dog foods were bad and "it's how you raise them".

I feel annoyed when I notice pit bull characters in media, even if they're just dogs owned by a character. It feels like a lot of works normalize the idea of them as essentially being golden retrievers who look like boxers. Is this a sign that I need to step back from BSL spaces and calm myself? Or is it a normal reaction?

I'm into fanfiction and fan-art spaces as well. One of the few fanfic writers who writes for a character I love is a pit bull lover. They wrote fics where the character has a "stupid, cuddly pitty" and.... yeah. It's wrong to complain about fanfiction, especially to the fic writer, so I just ignore it. But it sucks.

What’s the goal? Legislation? Local, state or federal level? What’s being done? Is this subreddit focused on a goal to deal with the source of the issue?

I was just wondering when the influx of pitbulls started becoming a problem? Just want to learn more info! I remember being younger and only seeing beagle mixes and labs. Now that I’m older almost everyone I know owns a pitbull!

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/24718328.police-investigation-staffie-bites-man-oxfordshire/

Police are investigating after a man was treated in hospital after allegedly being bitten by a Staffie.

The incident happened in fields in Chinnor on the morning of Tuesday, July 30.

A Staffordshire Bull Terrier was loose when it got into a fight with another dog being walked on a lead.

The dog walker, a man in his 70s, was bitten when he intervened and required hospital treatment.

His dog required treatment by a vet.

Police seized the Staffordshire Bull Terrier on August 7.

A spokesperson for Thames Valley Police said: "The investigation into this incident is still ongoing and the dog remains in the safe custody of Thames Valley Police in the secure kennels.

"There is no further update on the investigation at this time."

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are these actually dogs? theyre undeniably canines but so are other animals like wolves and foxes and coyotes etc and they dont behave like dogs at all but at the same time they were bred from dogs so are they still considered a dog species? or did they 'evolve' from being a dog to a whole other species?

So, unfortunately, I ended up arguing with someone on another platform about why Pitbulls are dangerous.

On a post about aggressive dogs, a woman commented about how she’s pregnant and her neighbor’s large dog charges her, nips and stares her down. I simply commented something along the lines of, “be careful, and if it’s a pit, please be EXTRA careful”.

So, of course, I got some pitmommy spewing the BS about how they’re nanny dogs, how they own one who’s a sweet little baby velvet hippo, etc etc. All I’m replying is hey, look at the stats. They’re responsible for most dog attacks.

Well, someone else chimes in with this:

They said, for the sake of the argument, if it IS the owners and not the breed, pits are still statistically more likely to attack. Shouldn’t you still be wary of the breed? If it’s the owners raising these dogs that are responsible for most of the attacks?

Thought it was an interesting clapback that MIGHT make sense to some of these pit apologists.

In recent days, two attacks by pitbull dogs have been reported in public spaces in Concordia. The municipality said that "we will monitor, issue fines and enforce the ordinance that has been in force since 2010." They also asked the owners to be "responsible."

A woman reported that while she was walking this Sunday in the San Carlos Park in Concordia, two dogs attacked her dachshund Nala and killed her. According to her story, they were two pitbull dogs that were walking down the street “without a muzzle or a leash, while their owner was busy with his cell phone.”

A few days ago, a case of a pitbull dog that brutally attacked a poodle, causing serious injuries that ended up being fatal, was reported. It happened on Buenos Aires Street, in that town.

  Julio Gesualdi, director of the Municipal Veterinary Service of Concordia , explained to Elonce that “people who have had problems with their pets have called me. I have tried to empathize with them but the reality is that there has been an Ordinance since 2010 and we carry out awareness campaigns so that people are responsible with their pets and what they can cause.”

“We are going to carry out more checks. If we find an animal without a muzzle, it is an infringement of the Ordinance and we must fine it. We have carried out awareness campaigns in anticipation of the summer season, which is when there is the greatest circulation of people. We have anticipated this, which is a real problem. There have been many cases since 2010 to date,” he said.

He stressed that “ the Ordinance is very specific and speaks of breeds that are potentially dangerous to another dog or a person. This should make us, as citizens, reconsider how we behave with our pets. These are cases of aggression towards another dog, but in a public space like San Carlos Park there are children and other people who may even be afraid of dogs.”   “The main reason is to challenge us as dog owners. If it is a medium to large animal and considered a potentially dangerous breed, even if it has a walker, I have to give it a muzzle. The person with the greatest responsibility is the owner. We are going to issue fines and enforce the ordinance,” he concluded.

Not a debate, I hate them just as much as the next guy. I’m curious to know how many people here are reformed after owning a pit. It’s a hard thing to admit but I think it’s really honorable to share your story.

I work in vet med and today, every pit/staffy/bully/pit mix I saw was just a behavioral mess. From growling and lunging in the room to being muzzled in the back and proceeding to anal gland, defecate, and bronco buck freak out all over the place.

If any animal shows aggression in the room, we bring it back for exams or treatments because owners are rarely able to restrain effectively and it's a safety issue for them, techs, and the doctor. At least today all the owners were smart enough to muzzle on arrival so we didn't have to ask.

We aren't going to make 4 people lay on top of a dog for a nail trim or a rabies vaccine. It's terrifying for them and not fair to them or to us. So if we can't touch them without a fight, we recommend behavioral meds and ask them to come back later today or another day. And today all these pit owners just looked at my like I was stupid and asked "Why can't you just get it done? Make them sit still?" Because your dog isn't up to date on rabies and I don't want to cut it's head off when it bites me.

Never have this issue with Golden Retrievers.

I had to take my senior cat to the vet today (she got diagnosed with diabetes poor thing) I'm sitting in the waiting room, she's on my lap in her sport pet carrier. She's calm as always. And I see out of the corner of my eyes a gentleman come out of one of the rooms with a female pitbull on a leash. Y'all, my heart dropped to my stomach in that moment. Cause this thing was pulling as hard as it could on the leash and had the crazy whale eyes bugged out. I immediately put my girl behind me, carrier and all. The owner thankfully seemed to sense that a bad situation could occur, and told the lady at the desk he was going to put his pitbull in the car, and then come back in and pay. So I'm thankful for that. But I was so terrified his dog was going to come after my baby. My heart was pounding and everything. Shame that I have to worry about my old gal possibly getting mauled at a vet's office. Just needed to vent about it. Thanks for reading!

The mental gymnastics some of these people do to justify putting a dog like this back in the general population staggers me. Good on the shelter though for having standards.

And I'm frustrated. Just got back from a vacation where my dad had to stand between a pit and my kids. The owner chewed us out while it was being held back, saying it wasn't trying to hurt anyone. I'm so done and I feel helpless about it

Why the nickname "Velvet Hippo"? Surely they know what they're doing?

It's no secret that hippos are a very dangerous animal, with annual human fatalities being around 500 a year, so if you are insistent that your dog is sweet and loving and not dangerous, then why nickname it after one of earth's most dangerous animals?