I don't think it's about race that much. Race may be a very salient marker. But it's not about race at all.

It's about access to resources.

People with greater access to resources, wealth, money, power, status, connections are perceived to be more attractive.

At the end of the day, all that really matters to a person is one's access to resources because accessing resources can greatly enhance the person's survival rate . . . even at other people's expense.

Supply and demand. Economics.

If it weren't for the invention of money and trade, then we would have to barter to get the stuff we need. And if we can't barter, then we will kill, murder, exploit others just so we and our people can survive. Survival of the fittest. Literally living like wild animals.

With all these potential Trump appointees, I’m guessing they’re not even gonna pretend anymore that they love Asians but have an issue with the Chinese government. Get ready to get discriminated up the wazoo.

Hello everyone!

I hope this post is appropriate amongst all the more serious posts recently. I’ve been meaning to say this for a while now but, I’ll say it now.

Firstly, as an Asian woman myself, I am very glad that I found this space online where we as the Asian diaspora can talk candidly about important issues that matter to us and affect us. I don’t know anywhere else on the internet where we can do that. So thank you so much to all the Asian men and women who’ve contributed thought provoking posts and criticisms about our community.

Now, to my fellow Asian men out there, I’ve learned so much about your struggles as men in western society, all the dating challenges, and the BS that was stacked against you whether through the media, Hollywood, parenting failures, bad role models, and other outside forces that discouraged you from the very beginning. I completely sympathize and empathize with you guys. I’m so sorry for what you guys have to go through. I am disgusted by those self hating/white worshipping Asian women who have contributed so much to your pain and emasculation on top of what you guys already have to deal with. Shame on them! I hope they realize what they’ve done someday and repent.

To all the Asian men out there, whether successful or unsuccessful in dating/life/etc, I just want to let you know that I see and hear your struggles! You guys who’ve succeeded despite the barriers stacked against you are so admirable and are a shining light and beacon for those who need help. Rock on! Keep going! Even for the men who are struggling, don’t give up! You got this! I’m rooting for you! Go go go!

You as Asian men are brilliant, enterprising, strong, intelligent, thought provoking, intriguing, resilient, and amazing individuals! Not to mention, many of you guys are also handsome, gorgeous, dashing, charismatic, romantic, gentle, masculine, and well-endowed men in all aspects! Don’t let anybody, any man or women, of any culture tell you otherwise! You guys have given the world so much from being creators/co-creators of huge tech companies (NVIDIA, DoirDash, Zoom, Samsung, Huawei, TikTok), to star athletes (Shohei Ohtani, Son Heung Min, etc), to heart throbs in entertainment (Kpop idols, Asian drama actors, singers), and more!

I know that there are depressing statistics out there regarding White men-Asian women couples and even about the recent election, I don’t deny them nor seek to defend them. But regardless of whatever stats are out there, I still don’t and won’t think of you guys are as undesirable as they make you guys out to be. I’ve always had good Asian male role models who left good impressions on me. I never once thought Asian men were inherently more misogynistic or unmasculine. I was confused that this was being said at all. While my relationship with my father has been a tad rocky, I never held him as an example for all Asian men and I want to have a better relationship with him moving forward. He’s a loving and kind hearted man who’s done his best as an immigrant man in this country.

To my fellow Asian women out there, we’ve probably all heard the praise for non-Asian men races, especially from white worshipping Asian women out there. Why not change it up a bit? I’ve seen women of other races praise their own men, why can’t we? Asian men are NOT lesser, NOT inferior, NOT below any other men out there! I hope we can all take the time appreciate the Asian men we have in our lives.

I would love to see strong solidarity between Asian men and women in the future. Even if not right now, I’m optimistic we can get there if we continue to have dialogue and heal our trauma together. Perhaps later on, we can all forgive each other and live happily in one another’s embrace.

That is all. Sorry for making this long.

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I volunteer at a food bank. Yesterday, another volunteer, an Asian-American woman, was telling the team members that Asians are “stupid and arrogant” as they were having difficulty communicating with Asian seniors who don’t speak English. They were agreeing until I told her in front of everyone to speak for herself. She acted offended and started making fun of me, but no one wanted to listen to her anymore. After she resorted to making self-deprecating remarks (including “I may be a bad person but I say what needs to be said”) to try to get people back on her side, someone finally shut her up by saying, “If you don’t have anything good to say, don’t say anything.”

Thank you to the members here who have previously shown that if Asians stay silent when racists and sellouts insult us, non-Asians see it as confirmation. You inspired me to fight back.

Hi all, please delete if not allowed, I'm not sure where else to post for advice. Thank you in advance! 🙂

It is my first Christmas with my boyfriend's Vietnamese family, and I am totally stuck on what to buy his mom. For context, the whole family is Vietnamese but also Chinese roots and speak Cantonese , so this might be relevant for knowing what gifts to buy also. I know not to buy any bad luck gifts, such as umbrella, clock, knives etc, but I am stressing a little since he has told me that his mom is quite particular and traditional and could be unhappy if she feels I have spent too much etc.

I also want to avoid more personal gifts such as makeup and skincare etc, since I have only net her a couple of times and feel this is a bit too intimate.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I could gift her? She is somewhat of a minimalist, so that rules out traditional gifts that I could give her from my country such as Matryoshka dolls or Russian lacquer boxes. Maybe there is something else that she would enjoy from there?

Thank you!

At least they treated Vivek better than how the Democratic party treated Andrew Yang.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/12/politics/elon-musk-vivek-ramaswamy-department-of-government-efficiency-trump/index.html

Honestly, I see a lot of parallels between Latinos and Asians. I was born in Mexico and brought to Alabama when I was 4, undocumented. I see both our groups go through a lot of racism here in the U.S.

If we go back in history, many of us Mexicans are half-native or more indigenous. Our ancient ancestors crossed the land-bridge tens of thousands of years ago, and our race's phenotype changed over time, though we retain many similarities to how Asians appear. European colonization in the Americas led to the erasure and loss of many lives, culture, and languages. Ethnocide, and even some genocide occurred as well.

When I look at Asian cultures, I feel inspired because of the resilience they've maintained. I sometimes wonder that if the colonization hadn't happened, would indigenous societies look similar to many Asian nations, with similar development?

It's such a shame so much was lost and Christianity imposed, no offense to those that are religious here, of course.

I once ran a scenario hypothetical on how it might've gone down if China had arrived to Mesoamerica & Aridamerica before Spain:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8Lff7rB/

Just a thought exercise on an alternate history. I feel it would've been better overall.

Reconnecting with my indigenous roots has shifted the way I see a lot of things. I feel that when I look at Asians in the U.S. and the struggles our communities face, I’m looking at extended family, communities with deeply related histories/plights.

Marco Rubio as Secretary of State

Michael Waltz as the National Security Advisor

Pete Hegseth as Secretary of Defense

Pete Hegseth has alluded to the fact that China has a lot of “terrorists” within America’s borders already, basically calling anyone Chinese (and by extension Asian looking) a potential spy.

I don’t have the work experience to leverage a transfer somewhere else yet. But I’m absolutely aiming to either get to an Asian enclave or Asia itself.

The rhetorics against China will be turned way up during these four years. The Biden administration was of course also anti-China, but they tried to keep the tensions down, at least in public. This will be different.

Also, all of these “podcast bros” have basically been talking about China being the number 1 threat to the West and the US, and I’ve been seeing this influencing some of my white male friends first hand.

We’re probably still far from internment camps, but daily racism, ranging from just insults to attacks will be increasing. Imagine if we’re Russian during the Cold War, but as POC, that’s what we are.

Howdy friends its been a minute

Like most I have been trying to navigate my day today despite the election. But these days its been just been an uptick in the racism and the Auntie Lus parading their white boy toys around traditionally Asian spaces.

Anyone seeing the same? I predict we are gonna see alot more of this shit in years to come but guessing the shit creek is already beginning to rise?

Even though I was born in September of 2001 in Vietnam, I started Kindergarten/1st grade-ish in Russia some time in 2006 and finished 12th grade in May 2018 in the US (my school isn't ranked but I took a plethora of AP+post-AP courses).

With the cutoff date, I would have started kindergarten sometime between 2006-2007 and finished 12th grade sometime between May 2019-May 2020 (depends on the jurisdiction).

I have heard many Americans claim it is beneficial to get a child to start school late (like an August or July born would start Kindergarten at 6 instead of 5) but I am not sure how it pans out in Asian culture, with their obsession in grades and stuff.

This phenomenon is known as "redshirting".

Is this practice stigmatised amongst East/Southeast Asians and Asian Americans? I am curious given the fact starting Kindergarten late meant people your age are already in the first grade and even if your child receives straight A's in all honors class during 9th grade at 15, it is equivalent to someone your age receiving straight A/A- in regular 10th grade classes as supposed to honours.

Ironically, at Matignon High School (I didn't attend that high school but knew some people that did), the oldest tend to be Asian international students. I met some Chinese students in the class of 2018 who were born in 1998.

Also, I have a Vietnamese friend who was developmentally delayed at 3-4 years old, but he then caught up and by 8, he was solidly 1 grade ahead and estimated to be 2-3 grade levels ahead of his age group. He was redshirted during Pre K and never had the opportunity to return to his age cohort, so his social skills stunted (he couldn't relate to anybody significantly younger than him). He started reading at like 4 despite not speaking until 4 (according to his parents).

Greetings and happy holidays to the AZN identity community worldwide. This is Martell, sending some holiday cheers and vibes. As I'm very blessed to have sponsors from Asia reminds me of this great community. So I came back to say how grateful I'm here to be for around 5 years on Reddit under martellthacool account before it was gone forever. I'm glad this community exists and helps me understand what's affecting others both nationwide and worldwide concerns and pressing matters through it all. My time being on AZN identity community made me felt I belong like in a family setting. You were kind, open minded and honored to be part of this community.

I get tons of haters and criticism from Americans alike despite born here.

In all honesty, I couldn't be anymore happier being here. This community is like my home and I stand with you, no matter what despite my loneliness and disability. What I'm trying to say thank you AZN identity community for years of awareness, learning and growth and didn't judge me for being different. I wish you was real life to send cards and gifts for everything you've done to help out those in need. Sincerely appreciated Martell

First off, being an Asian American, I do not fully like/support either candidate. However, I lean more towards Trump because I do not trust Harris as a person or leader. I have watched her speeches and interviews, and I'm just not convinced. But that's not the point of this post.

I don't doubt that many Asian Americans hold a similar view that neither the Democrats nor Republicans prioritize the interests of Asian Americans, which is why I find it suspicious that there are suddenly so many people coming out condemning Trump. Where were all of you before the election? Did a Harris victory seem so guaranteed that no one bothered to post anything? Knowing the nature of this site being made up of mostly white liberals, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these guys aren't even Asian and are coming on here for whatever reason.

Just want to put this out there, feel free to downvote and prove me wrong, my fellow Asians.

Edit: Can't reply to comments for some reason, some interesting points I wanna talk about but I guess mods or whatever got butthurt and banned me, oh well I guess you win reddit.

one of my closest friends (who is not asian, but is a poc) has always said she's not attracted to asian guys, which has always rubbed me a little the wrong way. whenever i've expressed than an asian celeb (such as kim mingyu, cho gue sung, shohei ohtani, etc.) is attractive, she claims that she just doesn't "get it."

today, i confronted her about it after it came up in conversation and she doubled down, saying she's never seen a single attractive asian man. this bothered me immensely, because she doesn't seem to view this as a racist viewpoint, which is exactly what i feel it is. it's one thing to say that you're not typically attracted to asian men, or you have a different type, but i feel it is certainly problematic to say that all asian men are unattractive.

obviously i understand that this is a common viewpoint among non-asian women, and even some asian women, and i think it is because of this that she feels it is a normal and okay opinion to have. but to me, it's insanely problematic and not something that people should be comfortable saying out loud.

am i wrong in thinking that this is an inherently racist opinion to have?

edit: to clarify, i am also a woman.

It won't let me post the image but, https://ibb.co/wKMS4dV

I'm a pretty seasoned genealogist. The poster isn't done, but I was excited to do the part with his Chinese ancestry!

This'll be a birthday gift for him. His direct Chinese ancestor was his great grandfather who arrived to Coahuila, Mexico and was from "Yoncong, China" according to the records. This ancestor was born in 1888 according to his death record age.

Trigger Warning: The following story contains details of trauma and discrimination that may be upsetting. I also left out some specific information because of the gruesome nature of what happened.

For your information, I've been unfairly labeled a fraud by everyone in the alt-right because of the trauma I've experienced. All I seek is kindness and understanding.

From 2009 to 2011, I attended a high school in Northern California where most of the student body was Asian American, Jewish American, and South Asian American, with only about 3% identifying as Caucasian. Educational achievements were highly valued in our community, and any disciplinary issues were severely frowned upon. When racism occurred, it was often ignored or dismissed. Early in my high school years, I was assigned to an assistant principal, whom I'll call Mrs. A. Unfortunately, this assignment became one of the most painful experiences of my life due to her actions.

I'm not sure where Mrs. A's hostility came from, but it seemed rooted in a harmful belief that immigrants were threatening American exceptionalism and values. Her prejudices were extensive—she was antisemitic, anti-Asian, Islamophobic, anti-Black, anti-LGBTQ, hispanophobic, anti-Romani, ableist, anti-globalist, anti-feminist, and she despised any white individuals who supported people of color. She also seemed to have a particular disdain for those who were only children.

Many of my Asian American peers faced similar discrimination from Mrs. A. Her actions had severe consequences, including job loss, disrupted education, financial struggles for some, and a few with self-harm. We felt powerless to speak out, as these types of issues were often brushed aside and dismissed as a "woke-minded virus." But let me be clear—our people never had any intention of pushing a "woke" agenda on the school administration. All we ever asked for was the fundamental right to live with dignity and respect.

To give you some background, in 2008, during my last year of middle school (in a different district), I was unfairly penalized by my PE teacher for tardiness, which was a clear violation of the school's policy that PE teachers were not allowed to punish students for being late. Instead of following the rules, my PE teacher publicly shamed me in front of the entire class and failed me so severely that I technically never completed middle school. This unjust treatment disqualified me from attending a much-anticipated trip to Yosemite National Park and nearly prevented me from moving on to high school. This incident marks the beginning of a series of injustices that would follow me.

In 2010, during my first year of high school, Mrs. A repeatedly called me into her office, accusing me of reverse racism—entirely baseless claims. Despite my classmates confirming that these incidents never occurred, Mrs. A continually targeted me. Her harassment escalated to daily emotional abuse, which was reinforced by the teachers with whom I had classes. She even physically assaulted me during one of her interrogations. As a result of these false accusations, I was suspended twice, which severely damaged my college prospects and my relations with my family.

During my second suspension, my father intervened, confronting the school principal, whom I'll call Mrs. D. Shocked by what she uncovered, Mrs. D caught Mrs. A in the act and later apologized to my family. She reassigned me to a more supportive assistant principal. However, no further action was ever taken against Mrs. A due to the immunity she received from the district superintendent, who had a troubling history of using racial slurs.

By mid-2011, I had formed close friendships and received support from a few teachers who sympathized with the psychological trauma I endured. But as the school year is about to end, Mrs. A struck again. She threatened my close friends, all four of whom are Asian Americans as well, with expulsion and ruined their college prospects if they continued to associate with me. Left with no choice, they distanced themselves, leaving me feeling deeply betrayed. Although they later apologized, and despite their genuine remorse, I struggled to forgive them—especially after 13 years of repeatedly hearing the same sincere apology as they sought my forgiveness countless times. At the same time, my family decided in 2011 that I would transfer to a different high school within the same school district.

In 2013, Mrs. A replaced Mrs. D as the school principal over bogus ideological accusations with the school district's help, allowing her to continue discriminatory practices. She spread distorted stories that painted Asians as aggressors against white people. Her actions profoundly impacted how I view and deal with racism, leaving me with a defeatist outlook and a permanent aversion to visiting the national park. Hearing Mrs. A praised in conservative media only deepened the wounds and made reconciliation with my former friends even more challenging.

Despite the adversity, I persevered. I completed community college, earned a degree in computer science at a state university, and achieved my father's dream by attending graduate school in Upstate New York at a prestigious private university. I earned my Master's degree in 2020, just as the COVID-19 pandemic began.

During my time in college, I made significant progress in leaving the trauma behind. However, the situation took a dark turn when I learned that others from my class year had also been traumatized and were still struggling mentally, financially, and legally due to fear of political retaliation. Not surprisingly, they blamed me, as the first victim, for not doing anything to stop Mrs. A in the first place. The situation got so bad that they even threatened my safety. This legal precedent only made my hope to bring Mrs. A and the school district to justice even more challenging to realize and mentally handle.

A few months ago, after nearly 13 years of issuing the same apology, I decided to withdraw from all attempts at reconciliation with my former friends. I found it unacceptable to reconcile when justice is still never served for the wrongs done. Unfortunately, my decision to withdraw subsequently led to other ex-friends pitting against me, further complicating an already painful situation.

How do I navigate these past issues if they arise in the future? How can I cope with the fallout of a friendship breakup caused by external pressures? And most importantly, how do I manage my trauma when the current polarizing political environment in the U.S. tends to invalidate my credibility?

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So I’m walking out of a high end pet store. There’s an older WF in there walking out right after me. She had just finished profusely thanking the staff for some advice. I hold the door for her smiling. Not a word. She couldn’t even make eye contact. We had to walk beside each other to get to our cars, I let her go first. Again, no acknowledgment of any kind. The only thing I’m getting is utter contempt. This happened in a Seattle suburb, the lady driving a Volvo SUV for chrissake. If her whole persona isn’t of an ultra left progressive I don’t know what is but she’s engaging in racist contempt. Oy Vey.

My question for this August body is: what SHOULD be done here? Call it out? Bring it to her attention? Talk to the store about it? What? After a 55yr lifetime in the US as an Asian male I’ve seen this perhaps thousands of times. And with the Orange KKK Donny getting elected the racists of any race will become more emboldened, just like this lady today.

Here is the Pew research study on interracial marriages, and I believe this was published in 2017, so around 7 ago. But this pic below was based on 2011-2015 community survey, so roughly a decade ago.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2017/05/18/1-trends-and-patterns-in-intermarriage/

Fast forward to Nov, 2024, we can push all the age brackets here 10 years back, to the right and its clear those who were born from late 70's to early 80's was a wild era for WMAW.

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Let's assume these age brackets

Gen Z - 20's
Millennials - 30's
Gen X - 40's & 50's
Boomers - 60's +
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Here was my experience.

I'm 32, Korean and I grew up in Melbourne & Sydney. We have massive enclaves for Asians in both cities here and as you can imagine, there was little identity issues for Asians growing up including myself. Then you can add in ethnic specific things like for us Koreans, church plays a major role in bringing the community together and our Korean background is enforced and emphasized.

Growing up, the only times I saw WMAW, was usually on TV or going out with friends and I was curious as to why this phenomenon was so prevalent, but never thought too much of it tbh..
I can only speak from my Korean perspective as we watched K-dramas and western stuff 50-50 and because of that, I think I never felt a loss of belonging and identity. Plus Grace Park (I thought she was hottest Asian actress) from Hawaii Five-O was in a KMKF marriage and I saw no Korean WMAW around me. It was always KMKF couples and marriages.

It wasn't until I was lurking on this sub and realized the extent of the problem and did some digging over the years and yea.... On top of my head, Jenny Han, Jamie Chung, Bobby Lee, Ken Jeong, Sue Mi Terry, and many more, I was shocked lol..
Like I understand if you were a Korean adoptee and you lived in some white town with no options but these guys? It must've been a wild era for WMAW and they are all Gen X'ers in their 40's and 50's currently.

That was my experience, as a younger millennial and looking back at all the people I grew up from church, 0 WMAW, all married Koreans mostly and few other Asians.
Speaking to my relatives and friends in NA, they all pretty much share the same experience as me as we are similar ages. Even the gypo youtubers I follow, are all getting married with other Koreans. The only time they date out now is unless your an adoptee or you grew up outside the Korean enclave (church), or something like that, but this is a tiny %.

For other Asians I grew up with in school, uni & work, most dated and married with other Asians, but in lower % terms than us Koreans, based on my observation, esp SEA's.

If you see a WMAW here, if they're not Gen X (all Asian races), then its usually Chinese or SEA..

Whats your story?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HcrSULTCiUg

white say black killing Asian is justified

How writers & execs do not take into consideration recent 400%+ rise in black on Asian violence to say this scene is "justified" within context of story is not tone-deaf but blatant racism.

Hollywood propagandizes so much hate. Something bad is being planned against Asians.

I'm an Asian student in high school in the States. I am getting a college degree before I graduate, and am top of my class.

I feel like I’m suffocating under the weight of my mom’s expectations. She has this constant pressure for me to be productive every second of every day, to check my planner, to tick boxes, to be “on track” according to her accelerated idea of what my life should be. She wants me to rush through my self-paced courses, like I’m in a race against time. And it’s so exhausting. I just want to find a balance—to be happy, to have space to unwind, to see my friends. But to her, there’s no time for that. “Later,” she says, like later will actually come.

Sometimes, I wonder if she even cares about my happiness. She wants me to keep pushing, to do more projects, find more scholarships, take on everything she thinks I should be doing. It feels endless. Any spare minute, and she’s there, pushing something new on me, like I’m some kind of machine meant only for school and success. And if I dare try to talk to her, it goes nowhere—she thinks age automatically makes her wiser, that her way is the only way. She’s constantly comparing me to my sister, who got into MIT, or to my friends who are supposedly “doing more.” It’s like she thinks I should just shape myself to be someone else, but I don’t want that. I want to be *me*.

It’s not just about academics, either. She imposes her religion on me, rituals I don’t connect with but have to participate in anyway. She even controls my mornings, waking me up early for no reason, as if being up at dawn somehow proves I’m working hard. My first class doesn’t start until much later, but she won’t listen. This, to her, is “good work ethic.” To me, it’s burnout. It’s taking away my right to rest.

The worst part is that I can’t even escape it because she insists on knowing every single detail of my life. If I sit down for thirty minutes without feeling guilty, it’s a miracle. Any time I try to get a little distance, she gets sad, complains that I’m making her lonely. My dad, being just as education-focused, sides with her every time. They both think studying and success should be my whole life, as if that’s all that matters.

But I don’t want to regret the choices I make for myself. I know I can get into a good college, and I’ll work toward that, but I want to get there on my terms, with my own autonomy. I am not ungrateful for what my parents want to give me. I just feel trapped in this rigid framework of their making. I want my own schedule, my own privacy, my own plans for the future. I want to breathe and live my life on my terms.

I am just venting; the only solution I see is to spend as much time outside my house as possible and be rebellious and be more free when I go to college. But I am very unhappy with how my life is turning out at the moment.

I was inspired to write this after a conversation today with my parents who were talking about their friends - all of whom have daughters married to white guys, by the way - and my dad remarked that one of his friends has good-looking kids because she is hapa and has prominent Western features. When I challenged his notion that white = attractive and lamented that Asians have such little pride in ourselves, he simply responded that "there are people who are more beautiful in this world and those who are not." That was more painful and enraging to hear than any slur or insult from another race not only because it was someone I love saying it, but because I know how widespread this mentality continues to be among Asians, even those Asians in countries politically aligned against the West. I wanted to ask him if he thinks he is ugly and I am ugly because we are Asian, but I was driving us on the highway and did not want to have an aneurysm screaming at someone who is never going to realize or accept that he spent his whole life devaluing himself. It hurt me doubly because it was an affront to me and an insult to him, who is a part of me.

As Asian Americans, we are collectively traumatized and thus practically disadvantaged by the self-hating mindset of our forebears, whether you realize it or not. It is telegraphed to so many of us early in life, explicitly or otherwise, from our parents that white people and culture are the standard for which we should strive, only for the same parents to wallow in quiet disappointment when hyper-conformist Asian Daughter - who ironically believes she's "rebelling" by doing so - brings home mediocre white BF #5 who won't marry her after 10 years of dating or relies on her to bring home the dough in exchange for a white last name and hapa kids. Only for the same parents to scratch their heads wondering why 30 year old Asian Son can't get any dates when they've never built up his self-esteem in his appearance and culture to counteract the bias of the broader Western society against Asian men. This pattern is so disgustingly prevalent and embarrassing for all Asians that I avoid going to places where I know there are going to be lots of WMAF (I'm AF and do not want to be associated with what they represent, not even by random strangers) and I like to bring up/allude to AF being white worshippers when I must interact with people in a WMAF relationship.

So yeah, Asian parents suck in this way, no matter how comfortable your upbringing was (because Asian parents, particularly middle-class parents, always take the safe and hardworking options in both professional and personal avenues of life, which correlates with higher household incomes and higher family stability). Literally everyone else should be wishing their own group was more like Asians based on our hard stats, but obviously they don't and won't because they know how much Asians suck at self-promotion and community-building, and thus how disrespected we are by others. Because too often, we don't respect ourselves first and foremost. And that is off-putting to anyone.

But at some point we also have to blame ourselves. Generations of clueless parenting aside, I also find the boba lib excuses of growing up in a majority white environment and underrepresentation of Asians in media, and hence "naturally" rejecting one's own culture and people early in life, to be overstated. Why? I am a literal example of someone who grew up with white-worshipping Chinese parents in a majority white environment - basically totally on track to become an NYT columnist married to a milquetoast white guy, spending my days posting pictures of matcha latte art and writing fearmongering articles about China - yet I cannot stomach self-haters of any race. So yes, you can consciously and independently choose to hold yourself and each other accountable for self-hating tendencies; all it takes - yes, all it takes - is a sense of dignity and respect for yourself for simply being who you are.

Though I shouldn't have to clarify, I am not saying this to show that I am "special" or to be a "pick me" (whatever the hell that even looks like for Asian women on azn reddit) - in fact, my point is literally that I should not be special or alone in completely rejecting whatever cuck ass mentality Asians have adopted in interacting with the West. Because how older and young Asians alike still fawn over whiteness and Western culture, and the subsequent way in which we are treated in the West, should inflame your sense of dignity and justice enough to make you self-aware of ways in which you have adopted the same mentality and consciously fight against this white worship in every way you can.

While I am not saying we should have absolutely zero tolerance or magnanimity toward Asians who are in the process of "waking up," I would rather some good people get lamentably caught in the crossfire of that, than continue with the inoffensive and humble mentality we still have now. Because one hurts us far more than the other.

We need to make it taboo and shameful to remark on wanting your kids to have "big eyes," to spend thousands of dollars on Western "luxury" brands that demean Asians, to spend tens of thousands on college prep services in the hopes that an Ivy League will deign to take your kids so they can continue being conformist, inoffensive model minorities but now in service of the Western propaganda machine. That starts with de-branding white people - an important suggestion made to me by a member of this sub in a comment I had written about WMAF - and taking pride in ourselves. It should honestly not be too complicated to de-brand white people because of all the disproportionately evil things their culture has represented over time, which is a well covered topic in this sub, so I will focus on the latter point, which is what would actually allow us to de-brand white people in the first place.

Firstly, taking pride in ourselves should not be about "we achieved this so we should be proud" - that is excessively logical and self-limiting, and sadly a line of reasoning I hear more and more from Chinese people nowadays that China is rising, although I suppose it's still a net positive. Anyway, Westerners had little to be proud about in their civilization back in the day, but that didn't stop them from believing they were superior and using that as justification for expanding across the world and exploiting resources for their own people. Luckily, pride is one of those self-sustaining, self-justifying things. You do not need a reason to be proud of yourself. You just have to believe in yourself for simply being who you are. But it's a quintillion times easier to do this if it's shown and modeled to you from a young age, which it was not for me, and probably not for lots of Asians. It's not the same as arrogance unless you're obnoxious about it or refuse to accept your flaws - it's something we all need for the sake of our happiness.

What's more, because pride is inherently valuable and makes people feel inherently self-assured, it naturally repels self-hatred and sellout tendencies. Among Asians, it can be hard to convince people not to sell out when they feel like the thing they're selling is not valuable in the first place. I cannot stress this enough. How much value does a culture, a people truly offer if it doesn't look out for its own? Asian countries must recognize that when we only see double-lidded and light-skinned models in advertising across Asia, we are not influenced to like how the majority of Asians look (and don't tell me it's just Western marketing executives making these decisions; we are a billion percent complicit in this). When Asians do not cultivate community spaces and traditions to promote relationships among their own children, Asians are not influenced to see each other as preferable partners. When Asian parents do not strictly discipline their children for talking smack about Asians, particularly when AF disparage AM, AF continue with their vile insults against their own kind (it's no wonder AM look to XF for romance now - the trauma from AF can make it not worth it to entertain an AF).

When Asians see other Asians get attacked and avert their eyes, we are not influenced to believe that our people will have our backs against other groups. When Asians Romanize our names or adopt Western names at a notably higher rate than other groups, even for the oft cited reason of practicality, we are inevitably implying to the rest of us that Asian names are somehow lesser than English ones. I could go on.

Conversely, when you believe that you are inherently just as good as anyone else, promote this mindset to other Asians, and incentivize in-group benefits and solidarity rather than try to erase your Asian-ness and disappear into other cultures, we will see less out-marriage and more pride overall. Simply adopting a punitive approach doesn't work - watch all the shitty Asian women start crying about "misogyny" 100x more often if Asian men start aggressively mate-guarding or doing more than writing displeased Reddit posts. Asians must exercise soft power among ourselves first and foremost, and apply punitive measures - like shaming people for being white worshipping and selling out - as a supplementary safeguard.

https://youtu.be/7TTvK5wKrXQ?si=zM77g_htB80PIwUU

Description

On October 27, 2024, an Oklahoma City officer issued, 70-year-old Lich Vu, a ticket after a minor collision, which Vu contested. When Vu trying to finish his sentence after repeatedly being talked down to and interrupted by the officer, unable to tell his side of the story, the police officer over-reacted and violently assaulted Vu.

Bodycam footage released by the Oklahoma City Police Department shows the swift takedown, which left Vu unconscious with serious injuries, including a brain bleed and fractured neck.

Vu's family claims the response was unnecessarily aggressive and has shared images of his injuries online to draw attention to the incident.

Police report that Vu was uncooperative, but his family disputes the level of force used on an elderly man. The officer is now on administrative leave and the case will be presented to the Oklahoma County DA for review.

My Take:

This happened end of October when political season was in full swing.

Just like we saw the white flight attendant verbally abuse the Asian woman in a conflict with a white man, here we see a white police officer talking respectfully to the white woman in the accident but refusing to let the Asian man speak.

When the Asian elderly man tries to finish his point (since the white cop keeps interrupting him), the white officer over-reacts and causes the elderly Asian a brain bleed and fractured neck by slamming him to the ground.

At no point was the frail Elderly man a threat to anyone.

You might remember in the white flight attendant's case, how condescendingly she speaks to the Asian female passenger and how deferential she is to the white passenger. Similarly, the white police officer is calm and respectful to the white woman in the accident, but acting imperiously and has a one-sided narrative AT the Asian man.

The disposition of the policeman is clear- the white woman is to be treated with respect; the Asian man is to listen, not allowed to speak, and if he tries to assert himself, he should be violently assaulted.

This actually is what Trump's campaign was about- it's about racial solidarity among whites. Non-college whites voted for Trump 2.5 to 1. When you see them as flight attendants and police officers, you can guess many will be "based" which means they practice white solidarity.

Opinion piece:

JD Vance is a weak man. We all know that because we all saw it. We also know how Usha molded him into what he is today. He's friends with his wife's college ex, Vivek Ramaswamy. How do you become/stay good friends with the dude who used to bang your wife? That's weird as hell.

Usha is the puppet master and everyone knew that from the start.

Trump is old old old, and that's become extremely obvious recently. A vote for Trump was actually a vote for Vance.

Back when Clinton was president, tons of people despised Hillary, saying she was actually pulling the strings. I don't know if they were right, but there'll be no denying it this time.

The same is gonna happen with Usha, and racism against south asians will skyrocket to violent levels. Get ahead of it and call her out on her puppeteering now.