/r/avoidchineseproducts

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This place is a resource for any person, group or entity seeking to avoid Chinese products.

Post finds questions about certain products, manufacturers or categories being made in China or not.

This sub is simply a resource to help people source products not made in China.

This is not a place to disparage Chinese people.

This place is a resource for any person, group or entity seeking to avoid Chinese products.

/r/avoidchineseproducts

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Drum hardware? (the metal bits, hi-hat and cymbal stands etc.)

I know even DW have the metal hardware for their "made in America" drums built in China, similarly Sonor moved production of theirs from Germany to China. Is there any drum hardware not made in China? I know König and Meyer drum thrones are entirely made in Germany, but they don't do any other drum hardware.

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2024/10/31
11:09 UTC

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Bicycle helmets not made in China

Does anyone know where to find bicycle helmets not made in China?

P.s. I'm in Australia, doubt we have any local producers, but I don't care where is made, as long as it's not China.

7 Comments
2024/10/30
04:32 UTC

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Google TV Streamer 4K

Does anyone know the country of origin of this new product? Not to be confused with the Chromecast.

3 Comments
2024/10/29
22:19 UTC

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High quality CAT6A cables.

As the title states, I'm looking for a 250ft or 500 ft spool of high quality CAT6A cable, preferably made in the USA but will happily accept Canada or Mexico as well.

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2024/10/29
16:53 UTC

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2024/10/28
23:12 UTC

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Ear protection

Looking for ear protection for shooting not made in China any recommendations?

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2024/10/27
22:19 UTC

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Lenovo P11 Gen 2 Pro Android Table Case

I don't like the magnetic case that came with the tablet, and I'm looking for something that will fit around similar to how a case would fit on a smartphone.

Some extra features that would be nice but is not mandatory:

- The ability the stand the case

- Ability to connect a keyboard

- Ability to connect a pen

Again, these extra feature are not mandatory, and I would happy enough with just a simple case.

I tried looking for 3D printer STL files to be able to print, but I could not find them.

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2024/10/26
19:09 UTC

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$2 Cotton swabs Made in USA

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2024/10/25
00:47 UTC

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I mentioned chinese garlic, well...

Here in the UK there's a lot of chinese garlic being sold in supermarkets, including Aldi. However their big single bulbs are from Spain & are only .37p. they're a decent size & although I haven't worked it out I reckon that weight for weight they'll be cheaper than the chinese crap. Far easier to peel too.

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2024/10/22
18:25 UTC

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Today I got called petty for wanting to avoid Chinese products

I bought Uni-President apple juice, yesterday. Upon drinking it, I felt the taste was really weird and very different from how it used to taste. My stomach started to feel unwell, so I checked the back and found that it listed the country of origin as "China". I ended up throwing up a few minutes later.

I posted in the Taiwan subreddit because I live in Taiwan and could have sworn I remember these products previously being labelled as being from Taiwan. Truly surprised how many commenters gave me shit for wanting to avoid buying from China!

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2024/10/22
02:07 UTC

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Wet/dry vacuum

I am looking for a wet/dry vacuum not made in China. From what I’ve read online, Ridgid might be a good option, but I can’t find any solid info that confirms where they are made. Does anyone have any recommendations?

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2024/10/20
16:00 UTC

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a dash cam?

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2024/10/20
21:39 UTC

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Comfortable dresses like Korsis

Does anyone have a recommendation for comfortable dresses (preferably with pockets) like these from Korsis:

https://www.amazon.com/stores/KORSIS/page/20F35319-C9CA-4E38-927F-195009B5C7C8?ref_=ast_bln&store_ref=bl_ast_dp_brandLogo_sto

My husband bought me a few Korsis dresses years ago without looking to see where they were made (China, unfortunately), and I absolutely loved them. When I went to order more from Amazon, I was upset to learn they were a Chinese brand.

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2024/10/19
23:04 UTC

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Not made in China Ipad Case

I'm looking for a case for an IPad, 9th generation, that has a stand for both vertical and horizontal. I found DODOCASE and looks like they have great products but not one with the vertical option. Checked out Etsy as well but not seeing what I want there either. Really trying to buy non-China products but it's so hard to find anything.

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2024/10/18
16:19 UTC

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Open-back Headphones under $300.

Copy/pasting this verbatim from the headphoneadvice subreddit

Hello. I got a credit card a few months ago, and I need to spend another $300 by the end of today to make a promotion I am trying to get and get some money back. The only thing I can really think of that will get me there is a pair of headphones. So please help me select one. I'd be wiling to go up to $350, if it will be the right one for me. Edit: $450, including an amp if I ABSOLUTELY have to.

I recently had the Beyerdynamic DT 990s Pro for a few days, but ended up returning it because I hated how bright they were. Everything else about it was great. So ig I'm looking for something like those but with less harsh treble - the sibilant sound it makes was awful for me, and just in general the brightness was too much. However, I did thoroughly enjoy how much resolution and detail the headphones had, and I would like something that has just as much detail and resolution, if it's possible if sacrificing the treble.

The headphones need to be open-back, as that's what I'm seeking, and I'd prefer a neutral sound over a V-shaped sound, if only because of my bad experience with the 990 brightness, and I do not want that "bass punch" that something like JBLs give; it just makes the music sound dull and muddy. Although the warm bass of the 990s was very welcomed... I wouldn't want to push it too much further than that one, however.

Another requirement is that the headphones cannot be a product of China. It can use some Chinese components, but I do not want it to be assembled/made in China nor made by a Chinese company. HiFiMan is therefore an utter no go for me. This is what attracted me to Beyerdynamic, because everything is sourced from Germany in all of their products. Some Audio-Technica models are made outside China, like the ATH-R70X made in Taiwan, but most of their products are made in China (I also only know of AT from their turntables, which I've always found to be just poor quality, they don't strike me as a high quality company that would sound good, tbh). Sennheiser also has some non-Chinese made headphones, but the HD 560S and 599 as mentioned below are, unfortunately.

I don't like gaming headphones, tbh. The primary purpose of these headhones is music listening - I listen to a lot of lusher and textured music, and a lot of heavy stuff; something that would be good for progressive/symphonic metal, psychedelic rock/neo-psychedelia, and new age/classical all alike. I do some gaming, but the purpose of these is for music and would like a pair for that, such that I can hear finer details I wouldn't on an ordinary pair of headphones, but without feeling the lethargy of the 990 sibilants. I thus don't need a wider soundstage for competitive gaming, and would like to avoid the amped up bass for a cinematic effect gaming headsets tend to have (I had a pair of Turtle Beach over a decade ago and hated them).

I also have some medical issues and can't have a very heavy force on my head all day, so the clamping force really needs to be as low as possible, since I'd like to wear them for a longer duration of time when I use them. This is the problem with most of the Beyerdyanmic and the higher-end Senneheiser headphones. I would cap the clamping force at 1 lbs, as anything more would probably cause discomfort, but even at 1 lb that it pushing it for me. The Sennheiser 6XX and 58X are off-limits because they're at like 1.5 or 1.6 lbs, which is too much (they may also be made in China, idk). The Beyerdynamics tend to be around 1.4/1.5, which is also too much - the TYGR 300 R is only 0.65, which would be great for me, but this is marketed as a gaming headphone, and thus I would assume the bass is toned up for cinematic effect, unfortunately, and looking at the sound profile graph, that appears to be the case. The Sennheiser 560S is 1.1 lbs, which is about as heavy as I'm willing to go (but this,as mentioned above and below, are made in China), though I still would like something lighter - the problem with these ones is that looking at the sound profile graph, it seems to have that treble spike similar to the 990s, and I'm afraid this one will be too sibilant for me. The 599 is 0.71 lbs, which would be fine for me, though looking at the sound profile, it seems to be very "casual" with a lot of bass toned up, to the point I'm not sure I'd even call this an "audiophile" headphone, even if does seem to be a marked improvement over my current Sony WH-1000X3 in pretty much every regard... The Beyerdynamic 900 Pro X is like 1.5 lbs, which is too much, though the sound profile for this one seems okay enough for me based on the graphs I've seen. If there were something in between the 599 and the 560S by Sennheiser, I think that would theoretically satisfy me (if it weren't assembled in the PRC). I'd prefer something over-ear rather than on-ear, unlike the on-ear Grado SR325X (made in the United States), which seems to have a sound profile that emphasizes treble too much (based on the graphs). My problem with on-ear is that they tend to cause pain on my ears after extended use, but the lighter clamping force on the Grados may not cause as much of a problem, though I'd still rather get something over-ear.

Lastly, I should specify that I'm looking for headphones with a lower impedance, eg no more than 100 ohms or so, because I do not want to buy an amp - unless there are amps not made in China that I could pair with the headphones for no more than $350 total... More likely, these are just going to be plug and play headphones. The Beyerdynamic TYGR 300 R has an impedance of 45 ohms, so that makes it also enticing...

Beyerdynamic does look the most enticing to me, aside from their heavier clamping force, since it is all German-made, and does seem to have the most clarity and precision in this price range.

Currently, what I am looking at are:

*Sennheiser HD 599: Looks good in most regards (though it is a little too cheap, as it wouldn't quite get me to the credit I want to be at, but it'll get me there faster for sure), but I don't like in theory the amped up high-bass, low-mid which may reduce clarity and cause the music to sound muddy or dull. I view these as an improvement to my current WH-1000X3, as stated before (at a cheaper price, too), but not the target since they don't really seem to be "audiophile"

*Sennheiser HD 560S: Looks mostly great, and it's the target price (it's on sale on the Sennheiser official website), though the clamping force may be too much for me (my Sonys currently are 0.8, which hardly causes problems, but the 1.1 from these may cause larger issues) and I'm concerned about the mid-high exaggeration (eg 10K hz) which may cause it be somewhat sibilant, which I don't want.

Edit: As it's been pointed out, these are actually made in China, so they are out of the question; forget about them.

*Beyerdynamic TYGR 300 R: These are gaming headphones, but the only Beyerdynamics under $300 that have a low clamping force at 0.6 lbs. I don't like the higher bass frequencies, notorious in gaming headphones, and even the higher treble similar to the 990s.

*Audio-Technica ATH-R70X: These are very light and have very low clamping force. According to the sound profile graphs, the mid on this thing are amazing. However, the bass seems pretty mediocre, and the treble appears to be downright dull, to the point that I would anticipate these headphones would have a muddy sound with comparatively less detail than other headphones. Not sure this would be audiophile-grade, either, but if someone knows, please correct me if I am wrong. These have an impedance of 400 ohms, so maybe these aren't a good idea, since thy probably won't power right without an amp...

No point in this one when the Refine below exists.

*Sennehiser HD 650: Appears to have the best sound profile of all headphones in my budget, just by looking at the graph. Dare I say it's almost theoretically ideal, with having very accurate mids and a slightly toned down treble, though I wish the bass were a little better. My concern with this one is that there is a little too much clamping force on these at 1.2 lbs, and I think they will not be comfortable for me, and potentially cause problems. The price is also a little bit high for me, at $400 even (on sale at a store). Otherwise, these seem to be the best...

*Senneheiser HD 490 Pro: Appears to have a a decent sound profile, going by graphs, but there seems to be inconsistent treble accuracy, and I'm afraid of the music sound simultaneously sibilant and muddy, though not horribly so. These are made in Romania, and the headphones only have 0.8 lbs of clamping force. They're being sold for $400 even at a different local store, so it is still yet a bit expensive for me, but I'm willing to do it it is the best for me. The impedance is 130 ohms, which I'll be fine with without an amp.

Per recommendation, here:

*Apos ATH-R70x Refine: This looks like a better R70X as mentioned above in every way in terms of sound and ergonomic design, and at a better price. The problem with this one, like the R70X, is that its impedance is too high at over 470 ohms. This could be a problem for me since I don't intend to buy an amp. Unless someone has a recommendation for one under $50...

Please mention any other brands and models I should consider. Again keeping it to a budget of $350 USD, but target at $300. If you know of any physical stores near central NJ or southeastern PA that I should look at, please also let me know... I would like to try them on in person, if possible, before the end of the day (I really need to make my credit limit today).

I am willing to bump my price up to under $450 at this point, if someone knows of anything that will satisfy my criteria, which TL;DR are headphones are/have:

*Open-back

*Not assembled in China (some Chinese parts are okay), nor sold/desgned by a Chinese firm

*A clamping force no more than 1 lb, though less is better

*A neutral, but detailed sound, eg audiophile grade but without the sibilant sound of the 990 Pro, nor the bassiness of the 599

*Under $450, but the closer to $300, the better

*Preferably an impedance under 150 ohms or so (I don't want to buy an amp)

Of the mentioned headphones above in which I'm interested, I think I'm most interested in the Sennheiser HD 650, however the clamping force is a huge turnoff for me, and the 490 Pro, though the treble in the sound profile is a bit inconsistent... idk.

That should just about cover it.

Thank you in advanced.

Edit: Whatever, I decided just to buy a $1,000 Israeli bond instead. I really didn't have the time to check out the headphones before the deadline. With my $250 I got from my card company, I'll be ready to buy a nice pair of headphones in the near future when I have time to try out my options. Will probably go with one of the four above :) I think I'm leaning towards the Sennheiser HD 490 Pro for now. Thank you for the responses. I've asked the mods to lock the post for now.

Also got recommended an Austrian Audio Hi-X65. If anyone knows about the clamping force on this one, or the headphones in general, please let me know. I can't find this information online (off the post is locked please DM me thank you).

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2024/10/16
22:04 UTC

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Apple watch band

Looking for a watch band that's not MIC. I've found several USA-made brands but they are mostly leather and I need something fabric, resin, or even metal. I am also not a big fan of the silicone one that came with the watch.

Any leads?

(It doesn't need to be USA, just, obviously, not China.)

If anyone is looking, here are some of the brands I found (mostly leather)

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2024/10/15
13:48 UTC

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Looking for mechanical keyboard. Similar to 8bitdo.

Almost bought it yesterday before noticing it is from China.
Looking something from US/EU/Taiwan etc.
Preferably also not india.

I was not able to find something similar yesterday.
Thx

8 Comments
2024/10/15
08:33 UTC

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Blu Ray Players

Hi everyone,

I am searching for a Blu Ray player that is not made in China. If possible, I would also like it to be a barebones player without internet access/Youtube/Netflix etc. I'm searching for simplicity.

6 Comments
2024/10/12
20:43 UTC

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2024/10/12
04:37 UTC

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Looking for water bottles

All the big brands are made in china.

  • stanley
  • yeti
  • hydrojug etc

Any suggestion?

9 Comments
2024/10/12
06:31 UTC

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Roland Spring paper products all seem to be made in the USA

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2024/10/12
19:53 UTC

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Old Fujitsu laptop made in Japan

I got myself an old Fujitsu LIFEBOOK E736/P laptop with an i5 6300U and 16GB DDR3 RAM (from 2015) for about 65 USD (I paid 1350 MXN, 1 USD is around 20 MXN), plus shipping and taxes - I think I paid around 200 USD (I imported some other things, like old GameBoy Advance games like Castlevania Aria of Sorrow using the Buyee proxy service). In total, I imported around 15 GBA games and a pair of NUARL N6 sports earbuds, so the actual cost of the laptop could be a bit lower.

https://preview.redd.it/4tnr4iuggfud1.jpg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5962d18085208874f56917945919c81c6db0bdff

Battery life came to around 90% of its original value, which is a plus.

I used a spare 8GB DDR3 RAM module I had lying around to upgrade it to 24GB RAM and it works super fine. It came with Windows 11 in Japanese but installing Windows 10 in Spanish was a breeze. I use it as my backup computer when I travel and it works super well.

I wanted to share it here if you're looking to buy a laptop not made in China and if you have any doubts about using Buyee's proxy service. I have more photos I took, I am open to sharing if any of you are interested. Cheers from México!

6 Comments
2024/10/13
01:40 UTC

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A cable to make a cable longer for EU

I need a cable that you can connect a cable so it becomes longer, around 1 or 2 meter. All the damn cables are made in China. I refuse to capitulate. Is there a way to find one not made in China? I only find long ass cables made un Germany, I only need around 1 or 2 meters, and I want a cable not the big round plastic things with multiple sockets.

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2024/10/11
00:07 UTC

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Looking for motion sensor speakers

I’m doing a Halloween project with my wife and we’re looking for a good motion sensor speakers that are not Chinese unfortunately all the speakers that we had usually end up crapping out after a month or two and and we want them to last longer I’m running out of time so at this point any ideas will help

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2024/10/11
01:34 UTC

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looking for Battery Bank/Power Bank with USB-C that ships to USA

looking for Battery Bank/Power Bank with USB-C that ships to USA, and preferably has 3 ports, and is ~10,000mah and ideally has fast charging. does not have USB Micro-B as main port/only charging port. not made in china/by chinese company of course.

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2024/10/11
03:10 UTC

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A cable to make a cable longer for EU

I need a cable that you can connect a cable so it becomes longer, around 1 or 2 meter. All the damn cables are made in China. I refuse to capitulate. Is there a way to find one not made in China? I only find long ass cables made un Germany, I only need around 1 or 2 meters, and I want a cable not the big round plastic things with multiple sockets.

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2024/10/11
00:07 UTC

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Target brand pan lacks evident country of origin

Would this be legal? Photos attached.

This label has adhesive and cannot be removed easily. The origin is on the underside of the label.

Not sure how to make a complaint.

17 Comments
2024/10/10
23:02 UTC

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