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This is not a place to disparage Chinese people.

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Green Toys now manufactures some toys in the PRC

I've previously recommended Green Toys as one of the rather few options for NMIC toys. Sadly, I now have to rescind that recommendation. The company has confirmed it now manufactures some of its toys in China. They specifically list several trucks (fire, dump and recycling) and boats (sub and rescue), and mention 2025 new toys while not saying if that's all new toys or just some. They still haven't gotten around to updating Country of Origin information on their website or in product descriptions on retails sites, so unless you email them there's no way to know before ordering online. I'm one very disappointed grandma.

3 Comments
2025/01/29
20:30 UTC

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Deepseek

I thought this was appropriate, while more products here are physical, this service is hiding behind cloudflare and actually resolves to the Huawei Cloud, which we already know gets fed to the CCP.
What Is DeepSeek, the New Chinese OpenAI Rival? | TIME

IMO - this is just a ploy to upset the markets here. No telling how much "free" help the CCP gave this company.

https://preview.redd.it/sawlf5pikqfe1.png?width=1082&format=png&auto=webp&s=add93425164e1d530833a2dfda58511d186a75d2

19 Comments
2025/01/28
13:26 UTC

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Electric kettles

Search for "British-made kettles" online and you'll find a couple of sites with maybe AI-written and entirely false articles saying that Morphy Richards, Swan, Dualit etc make kettles in the UK. They don't. Dualit have told me all their kettles are made in China and as far as I know no other company makes them in the UK. (Though you can buy British-made stovetop and camping kettles.)

The only two companies that I know of manufacturing in Europe are Ritter (Germany) and Ottoni Fabbrica (Italy with European components). The Ritter kettle costs €180 and so you'll be hit with import duties in the UK. Ottoni have been having supply issues but now have some of their Alice range back in stock. I've just ordered one for £85 + £20 delivery - still cheaper than some Dualit models!

6 Comments
2025/01/25
18:21 UTC

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IEM's (earphones) that are not made in China.

I'm looking for western companies that have good customer support unlike Chinese headphone companies that only care about quantity over qualit. I'm an audiophile, so if you're an audiophile, please help me find a reliable and durable headphone.

0 Comments
2025/01/24
01:37 UTC

24

Ringke phone and tablet stand made in S. Korea

0 Comments
2025/01/23
08:46 UTC

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"SharkNinja CEO said the company has been diversifying its supplier base and will be able to make all U.S. products outside of China by the end of 2025."

17 Comments
2025/01/23
09:01 UTC

830

Reddit is Being Invaded By Chinese Propaganda

I encourage you to delete your Reddit account, and other social media accounts.

I've been noticing this 'RedNote' website being forced into this platform recently. Impressively I've seen more people than I expected speak up against it, but not enough. It's time to distance myself even more from the internet and household modern tech. Chinese propagandists are trying to invade and influence us for the millionth time. This is a great excuse to ditch social media websites. This change would greatly benefit humankind.

I don't have any other social media- I don't know what took me so long to realize Reddit also causes the brain to decay. Years ago, I traded my smartphone in for a flip phone. I don't pay for any streaming services or watch television. When I'm not working, I learn skills and practical hobbies. Almost done crocheting my third blanket. I have an older laptop I use to listen to music or documentaries I find for free.

I don't order off of Temu anymore, as of a week ago. I feel extreme guilt for ever purchasing things there. Instead I buy nice secondhand brand name products from eBay. Easy to tailor things smaller or fix them with my sewing machine.

If we really wish to support the betterment of humankind, we would realize that ordering from places that exploit others to an extreme degree like Temu, importing their toxic products into our country, hurts us all. Utilizing a platform like Reddit, which has been full of shills for years, hurts us all. Using overpriced and scammy, time wasting 'smart' technology, when we were able to live just a couple decades ago perfectly normal and decent lives without it, hurts us all.

I'm likely alone in my own personal resistance of certain things. And this post will probably get removed. But if even one person sees this, and considers the damage they may be doing to themselves or contributing to, then I feel victorious.

94 Comments
2025/01/18
16:00 UTC

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Looking for a EDC tactical flashlight

I'm looking for a bright flashlight that still fits into jeans easily. I wanna spend ~100€ /120$

6 Comments
2025/01/18
18:05 UTC

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Ergonomic Pillows not made in China?

I'm looking for something like this, but it seems like they're all made in China! I don't really want to buy a Chinese product to have near my face every night.

Does anybody have any recommendation?

Thank you in advance!

6 Comments
2025/01/17
17:40 UTC

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Wilson sports, Louisville Slugger and Demarini. All Chinese owned…not just made in China…Chinese owned.

11 Comments
2025/01/17
00:27 UTC

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Insulated Tumblers - Fiestaware MiUSA

1 Comment
2025/01/15
21:25 UTC

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Beard trimmer

As per the title I am after a beard trimmer that is not made in China to maintain my short stubble.

I had previously maintained my stubble, and hair via Wahl hair clippers that lasted 20+ years! My hair, or lack there of, is maintained via a daily wet shave. I am not adverse to getting hair clippers again, but if there are some beard trimmers that might suit the single use now required then I would prefer to go that way.

Budget isn't a consideration. Would prefer coreless, but not hung up in it. Would prefer adjustability without attachments.

I am UK based.

13 Comments
2025/01/15
13:02 UTC

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TAA Compliant Goods

One imperfect way to find NMIC goods is to look for products labelled TAA-compliant.

TAA compliance requires goods to be manufactured in the US or designated compliant country which then allows US government agencies to purchase said product. Note the absense of China on the list.

https://gsa.federalschedules.com/resources/taa-designated-countries/

Many companies don't necessarily label products as TAA-compliant, but many do.

https://www.apc.com/us/en/solutions/government-and-education/taa-compliant.jsp

https://business.sharpusa.com/Guides/taa-compliant-displays

https://www.buffalotech.com/about/taa-compliant

https://connect.na.panasonic.com/resource-center/taa-compliant-av-technology

It's not a perfect label, but you can find model numbers of compliant products as a guide to finding NMIC products.

1 Comment
2025/01/13
00:04 UTC

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Double challenge: Non-chinese KB with minimal plastic parts

Looking for a keyboard (and possibly a mouse) that are not only not made in China, but also use other materials instead of plastic. So wood, bamboo, metal...

3 Comments
2025/01/13
07:20 UTC

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Dried/Tinned Beans?

Does anyone know any suppliers who do not use chinese beans/chickpeas/lentils? All I can find is ones that’s don’t say (so I assume is China) and ones that state China as country or origin. I am UK based.

1 Comment
2025/01/11
21:00 UTC

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Looking for a TV stand with mount for at least a 40" TV

I'm looking for a bedroom TV stand with a mount that can accommodate a 40" TV, preferably black in color and not made with glass. Made in the USA is optimal but I know that might be hard to find, just anywhere that isn't China

2 Comments
2025/01/11
17:31 UTC

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Weighted Calisthenics Equipments Not Made in China List

Here are some essential equipments use when doing weight calisthenics exercises with. High quality, some natural, better features, etc. Note I'm not sponsored by anyone or paid. I Voluntarily share for the benefit of saving for my future shopping list and everyone's possible desire.

Resistance bands and chains

USA Made

https://allamerican.org/lists/resistance-bands/

Made in Sri Lanka

https://www.movement-made.com/products/rubber-bands?variant=45197167198512

Weighted Vest

USA Made

https://allamerican.org/lists/plate-carriers/

https://outdoorsmans.com/products/weight-frame-system

https://www.weightvest.com/

https://www.roguefitness.com/100lb-straightjacket-vest

https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/4675DED3-0F01-40B3-B3D5-D954D8998539

https://hyperwear.com/products/hyper-pro-weight-vest?srsltid=AfmBOookYLQHlSjpTJWUpkYnQ0T95CZe7M4o6MW6OrhV0HdY7A4_IL_b

https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/5FD78BEE-F9E4-4F33-AB24-664F0BE7DC3A?ingress=2&visitId=699a5edb-2096-4745-bc43-147b27f0adb5&store_ref=bl_ast_dp_brandLogo_sto&ref_=ast_bln

https://www.roguefitness.com/box-weighted-vest-black

https://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-plate-carrier?a_aid=545b8afa63108&data1=bCRUDmYnK6uT5MJZ1EWrW9

Wrist Wraps

USA Made

https://www.tuffwraps.com/collections/wrist-wraps

https://titansupport.com/product/thp-wrist-wraps/

https://schiek.com/collections/wrist-wraps

https://www.amazon.com/Versa-Gripps-Authentic-Training-Accessory/dp/B000VW6920?th=1

https://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-wraps

Workout Grips

USA Made

https://www.serioussteel.com/products/serious-steel-fitness-pull-up-grips-gray

Elbow Sleeves similar to wrist wrap

USA Made

https://titansupport.com/product-category/knee-elbow-sleeves/

Ankle weights

USA Made

https://www.ebay.com/itm/395193031702

Dips Belts

Adjustability Comfort Secure Portability Versatility

Lifetime warranty

USA Made

https://pioneerfit.com/collections/pioneer-dip-belts

https://titansupport.com/product/texas-2-5-x-4-heavy-duty-dip-belt/

https://www.spud-inc-straps.com/product/dip-belt/

https://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-dip-belt

https://www.amazon.com/Leather-Strap-Chain-Weight-Lifting/dp/B08KRXFLBH

https://atgequipment.com/products/american-made-atg-dip-chin-belt

https://www.americanfitness.net/american-barbell-dip-belt.aspx

https://tfusa.net/products/spud-dip-belt-w-chain

https://www.samsonequipment.com/product/dip-belt/

https://www.vulcanstrength.com/Vulcan-Leather-Dip-Belt-p/dipbelt.htm

https://www.tpsmethod.com/shop/product/dip-belt/

Made in Sri Lanka

https://www.movement-made.com/collections/equipment/products/multistrap

Gymnastic Rings Straps

USA Made

https://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-rings

https://tfusa.net/products/rogue-gymnastics-wood-rings-w-16-black-strap

Made in Siri Lanka

https://www.movement-made.com/products/rings-c-handle

Liquid Chalk

USA Made

https://www.amazon.com/spider-chalk-liquid/s?k=spider+chalk+liquid+chalk

https://www.roguefitness.com/gear-accessories/gym-essentials/chalk

https://www.amazon.com/Chalk-Out-Weightlifting-Liquid-Made/dp/B0CR6MDCX8?th=1

Canada Made

https://feo.ca/products/get-a

https://taigatherapy.com/products/barrier-liquid-chalk

https://www.amazon.ca/Peregrine-Weightlifting-Gymnastics-Climbing-Bouldering/dp/B09WDK4JNM

UK Made

https://cerberus-strength.com/products/atlas-grip-liquid-chalk

https://shop.thebmc.co.uk/product/gekco-liquid-chalk-250ml/

https://yaybprotein.com/collections/liquid-chalk-1

https://www.battleboxuk.com/special-offers/battlebox-uk-250ml-special-edition-liquid-chalk-rock-climbing-gymnastics-gym-pole-dancing/

German Made

https://rewhite-climbing.de/kaufen/liquid-chalk

https://www.kletterretter.com/en/liquid-chalk-talk/

India Made

https://www.adventure18.com/product/adv18cr11200

If you find any more non-china made products leave it in the comments and I forget to add another category related to weighted calisthenics let me know. Thank you and your welcome

1 Comment
2025/01/10
04:19 UTC

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The Quest for a Non-Chinese Laptop

I posted recently on a thread here about laptops. I happen to be in the market for laptops, and it's striking how difficult it is to find out whether any given model was made in China. It used to be that when you looked at specs on Amazon or other sites, the "country of origin" would be listed, and mysteriously, over time, they've come to omit that piece of information. So, if you're shopping online, it's very, very hard to verify if a given model was made in China or somewhere else. I've tried asking Co-Pilot about particular models, but I've found that it's frequently wrong - it'll say a given laptop was made in South Korea or Taiwan, but if you actually check, it'll turn out that it was made in China. I think that may just be because reliable information about where they are made is really hard to come by.

So, I wanted to share what I've learned. Today, I made a trip to Best Buy to physically examine some laptops, since that's pretty much the only way one can be sure, as this isn't posted on their site. You can check on the bottom of a laptop store model, or on the box it comes in.

Currently, at least at the Best Buy I visited, the ONLY laptops they had in stock that were not made in China were these...

  1. Samsung Galaxy Book4
  2. Dell Inspiron 16 2-in-1 (i7640-7380BLU-PUS)
  3. Dell XPS (some models, anyway, such as the XPS 16, XPS9640-9158SLV-PUS)

And that was it. All three were made in Vietnam. Shocking to me was Acer and Asus. Both are Taiwanese companies, and Co-Pilot assured me that their laptops are made in Taiwan, but among the stock I found, they only had laptops that were "assembled in China." Shocking also was LG. I had been eyeing their line of laptops for a while, because I had naively assumed they were made in South Korea. It seems not; the models I've been able to examine were all made in China, and I did later see a write-up saying that indeed, LG had moved some of its production there. (Though I suppose, given the political situation of Taiwan, I'm probably a lot more surprised that Taiwanese firms would outsource to the Mainland than that Korean firms would. It's like, "Yeah, I know you guys want to conquer and subjugate us, and you regularly attempt to isolate us from international contact, intervene in our politics and steal our IP all the time, but hey, can you build some laptops for us?") I also thought Microsoft Surface was made in the US, but every one Best Buy had was made in China, I can confirm.

I can also mention that at CostCo, they had a Dell Inspiron 15 (i3535-A813BLK-PUS) that was also made in Vietnam. But Dell certainly also had a lot of laptops made in China too, so if you're considering Dell, you may just have to physically check to verify. I've seen at least one Dell Latitude, the Latitude 5330, which was made in Vietnam, but I think that model is old enough such that you may only see that on the refurbish/resale market now. But all other Latitude models I've seen were made in China.

Otherwise, there's the list I posted in that other thread:

  1. Vaio
  2. MSI (made in Taiwan, though avoid them, because they still do business with Russia)
  3. Framework
  4. Gigabyte
  5. System 76*
  6. Purism*
  7. Panasonic Toughbook

I should mention Fujitsu, though they don't seem to be commercially available in the US market currently. But they are a respectable Japanese-made brand. There's also iBall, which is made in India, but also seems to not be commercially available in the US.

EDIT: added some model numbers and specifics

(*) Also, see warnings about Purism and System 76 in the comments section here. The fact that something isn't made in China doesn't mean it's good or bad by itself.

25 Comments
2025/01/09
22:38 UTC

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Floating sunglass strap

Made in Taiwan! Was pleasantly surprised when I saw this on the box. Brand is Driftfish, company is Koala Lifestyle out of Huntington, NY.

Check it out at Amazon and happy swimming!

https://a.co/d/e7qat3J

4 Comments
2025/01/09
03:52 UTC

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WiFi 7 PCI-E Expansion Card

Looking to buy.

I'd be happy with a cheaper brand that used one of the main drivers such as Intel, and I think maybe Qualcomm makes some too?

https://www.qualcomm.com/products/technology/wi-fi/wi-fi-7
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230078/intel-wifi-7-be200/downloads.html

6 Comments
2025/01/07
23:09 UTC

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Car Inverter Power Converter Cable Not made in China List

1 Comment
2025/01/07
05:22 UTC

4

Barebone mechanical keyboard kit

Hello everyone, I am looking for a barebone mechanical keyboard kit that is either 100% size ISO layout or a 96% size ISO layout.

I'll be getting my own switches and pbt triple shot key caps, But any non Chinese key caps and switches are welcome as well. The switches I'm looking for are supposed to be silent tactile switches.

Thanks in advance!

5 Comments
2025/01/06
23:45 UTC

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A USB C charger for a laptop that can handle up to 100W using USB c

The power brick it comes with weighs like ten pounds

7 Comments
2025/01/05
23:32 UTC

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car brands that are now chinese

Has anyone compiled a list of Car brands that were previously not Chinese but currently are? Either fully owned or have major stakes.

A few that I know: Volvo Lotus MG

Any others?

81 Comments
2025/01/06
06:02 UTC

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"Satisfaction guaranteed" is not true.

I purchased 4 items on the Cloud Slides 11/20/2024 2 for myself. 2 items were Christmas gifts. The slides I gave my daughter didn't work for her high arches. The others were slippers for my husband were uncomfortable. On 12/26/2024 I started to contact cloud Slides. It was a couple of days before I received any response. Cloud Slides does'nt have an refund policy. I was offered to order 2 different items and be charged $9.95 shipping charge for each. So no refund would be issued. Now they are bringing up the 30 days return policy.

1 Comment
2025/01/03
19:31 UTC

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Egg Topper/Cracker

I am looking for an egg topper that cracked the top of an egg cleanly, even on raw eggs. The Take2 and Rosle seem to only be designed in Germany. Please let me know if I am mistaken.

6 Comments
2025/01/03
20:02 UTC

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AA and AAA batteries made in Germany

3 Comments
2025/01/01
15:40 UTC

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