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ܫܠܡܐ ܥܠܘܟܘܢ - Welcome to r/Assyria

A central hub for Assyrian people and others to come together, share content and discuss all things of relevance.


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The history of the Assyrian people can be traced back to circa 2500 BC. Throughout this time, population growth and an extensive, broad history has brought with it varying diversity.

Today, this diversity is represented in the form of various Assyrian groups who identify as Assyrian, Chaldean and Syriac. See - Assyrian continuity.

Here at r/Assyria, we recognise the struggle and hardship the Assyrian people currently face in the Middle East. Therefore, we strongly advocate for reunification and the coming together of all our people so that our voice can grow loud enough to be heard across the globe.


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Assyrian music

Which assyrian song do you like most and is your favorite?

1 Comment
2024/12/02
13:23 UTC

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Hello question about song translation Janan Sawa

So I have many Assyrian friends (Live in California) . And my all time favorite song is Janan Sawa - Choukah

I was wondering if there's anyway to get subtitles but. not in English what I mean is the pronunciation of the Assyrian word on English for example. I think I heard him way Hadiyah . And words I know seem like they'd be spelled 'Spai' ' basima" " Dahkee" .

Its a tall order but. I assume Assyrians that don't know the Assyrian alphabet could easily spell out the words that they know how to speak fluently.

I also may be dumb I can't think of word for it when something In a different language is spelled out in English Ike Chinese for insantce Ni Hao. Japanese Konichiwa... sorry I'm rambling I just want to sing along to Janans song But, hard when I'm kinda just guessing some words....

3 Comments
2024/12/02
13:00 UTC

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"If he can learn Cree, then we can teach our children it": What Assyrians can learn about our own dying language.

Xiomanyc is a polyglot based in New York who gained attention for visiting Chinatown and speaking Mandarin, surprising locals who didn’t expect a "typical" white guy to speak their language. He picks up the basics of a language before immersing himself in communities where the language is spoken. I admire him, especially for his efforts to highlight Indigenous languages and cultures, such as Navajo and Cree.

The Assyrians I've encountered often show deep empathy for the struggles of Native Americans. Seeing strong parallels between our shared histories of suffering and the challenges we face today, with both of us hit hard by persecution and left to suffer in silence and apathy from the world. For those who are unaware, many Native communities in Canada and the USA had their cultures forcibly taken away from them by their governments. Native children were sent to residential schools, where they were forbidden to speak their languages and beaten for showing any hint of their culture. Indigenous infants and children were frequently taken from their families and placed in white homes to further destroy cultural ties. Over the past century, entire generations have been denied the right to speak their mother languages and live according to their ancestral ways - on their own lands! Combined with the devastating effects of disease and genocide, this has been the primary reason why many Native peoples no longer speak their languages, which are on the verge of extinction.

Xiomanyc was invited to a Cree reservation in Saskatchewan, Canada, where he was able to converse with the locals in their native Cree language. During a gathering of elders, one woman took time praised his efforts. She said:

“If he can learn Cree, then we can teach our children and our grandchildren to learn, too. That’s why we brought him here, to show you it’s possible”. She began to cry, and so did Xiomanyc. Mother language is something dear to us; it defines us and our world. Speaking it is a human right, but unfortunately, that has been deprived from us, and indigenous Americans alike.

I think the video is important to show us how our loss of language is something experienced by other people. The burden of suffering lessens when there are others to share it with you. It’s also important to keep in mind that we have to share our language with the world, and work with our elders in preserving it. Our mother language is dying; this is a reality we have to face. But with proactive efforts, we can save it as well. We should all feel the way the native elders in this video feel; crying bittersweet tears, but holding onto hope to preserve our identity and life.

Video: https://youtu.be/CGi5W-gG-vs?feature=shared

1 Comment
2024/12/02
01:19 UTC

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Assyrian politic

Hi, I'm just wondering what you all think if we had an Assyrian country and what political ideology/party would be the biggest. Examples nationalism, socialism, etc.

I am an Assyrian living in southern Stockholm, Sweden. Many Assyrians live here. Between 50,000-100,000 approximately. In the areas where almost only Assyrians live, the parties are the Christian Democrats (a Christian party in Sweden), the Sweden Democrats (a nationalist party in Sweden) and the Moderates (a right-wing party in Sweden, also the party that leads in Sweden) which is the biggest. So if we had a country and all Assyrians voted like the Assyrians in Stockholm, I think it would be right-wing/nationalist/Christian ruling. But what do you think?

19 Comments
2024/11/30
13:07 UTC

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Assyrians in Syria’s Aleppo fleeing towards YPG controlled area’s for protection

Kurds protect the freedom loving people of Assyria, hopefully the Kurds can stand their ground against the rebel forces and protect the Kurdish and Assyrian people of Aleppo.

37 Comments
2024/11/30
10:16 UTC

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French made map of Hakkari in the 1600s. Of course Ashitha shows up early as it was always amongst the heaviest populated. Some say because the valley in Ashitha had snow year round which made water plentiful in spring and summer.

3 Comments
2024/11/30
03:35 UTC

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Greta Thunberg went to Northern Iraq

https://www.instagram.com/p/DC4Ml1iiuAI/?igsh=MXFodW40YnZ6bzhocw==

Baffles me how assyrians are totally eliminated both physically from our native land, and from the discourse. A quick look at the comment section and not a single word about what we've gone through. People are eliminating our history right before our eyes.

28 Comments
2024/11/28
21:00 UTC

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My humble question about language

Shalamalokhun,

If I would like to say

Thank you all God bless you all and Love you all,

can I use ,ܬܘܕܐ ܠܟܘܢ ,ܐܠܗܐ ܡܒܪܟ ܠܟܘܢ ,ܐܒܕ ܟܢ ܟܠܟܘܢ Sorry if I do any mistake. Thank you all.

3 Comments
2024/11/28
16:25 UTC

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What was the vernacular of most Levantines in the Byzantine era?

I know that the liturgical, intellectual, and administrative language was Greek. And I think Aramaic must have been a considerable presence given that the Maronite Church used to use it in their liturgy, and it continues to be spoken in Maaloula.

But was Aramaic the universal vernacular of the population? Did urban and wealthier Levantines gravitate to Greek? What was the socioeconomic status of most Aramaic speakers?

5 Comments
2024/11/28
02:36 UTC

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Preserving Modern Assyrian Language through Digitization and AI

https://preview.redd.it/4d7e9dl9zi3e1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=4b1bf2b633ec90ca570aa25c396b870edba5cc45

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This Giving Tuesday, your donation to ASA will be matched dollar-for-dollar, up to $5,000, thanks to two generous anonymous donors. We are raising funds for our new initiative, “Preserving Modern Assyrian Language through Digitization and AI.” This project modernizes the digital use of the Assyrian language by translating common phrases, establishing linguistic standards, researching appropriate terms, and creating digital tools and fonts. It aims to preserve and promote the language, ensuring its accessibility and relevance for future generations.

A key outcome is our work with Unicode CLDR, enabling Assyrian/Syriac to be selected as a language in iOS, Android, Windows, macOS, and Linux. This supports the translation of dates, times, regions, and other terms into Assyrian. We are actively expanding coverage to drive broader adoption across applications.

This Giving Tuesday, your donation to ASA will be matched dollar-for-dollar, up to $5,000, thanks to two generous anonymous donors. We are raising funds for our new initiative, “Preserving Modern Assyrian Language through Digitization and AI.” This project modernizes the digital use of the Assyrian language by translating common phrases, establishing linguistic standards, researching appropriate terms, and creating digital tools and fonts. It aims to preserve and promote the language, ensuring its accessibility and relevance for future generations.

A key outcome is our work with Unicode CLDR, enabling Assyrian/Syriac to be selected as a language in iOS, Android, Windows, macOS, and Linux. This supports the translation of dates, times, regions, and other terms into Assyrian. We are actively expanding coverage to drive broader adoption across applications.

Donate now to double your impact and help us preserve our cultural heritage:

https://www.paypal.com/donate?campaign_id=485U8HCRPL5Q2Donate now to double your impact and help us preserve our cultural heritage: https://www.paypal.com/donate?campaign_id=485U8HCRPL5Q2

1 Comment
2024/11/27
23:06 UTC

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Reviving Mesopotamian traditions and language, is it possible?

Hello everyone! I am an Arab Iraqi that is very interested in ancient history and the Mesopotamian empires of old, I have a few questions regarding ancient languages of old and the current ones spoken in our lands, Just how similar are Neo-Aramaic spoken today and ancient Assyrian/Akkadian?, do we have enough sources to document all these languages, do you know any reliable alphabets I can use? I have this idea of creating an ancient dictionary for these languages, my idea is to revive Akkadian as a spoken language and using the Aramaic alphabet used in our country (I am not sure if it is just 1 alphabet because they seem a bit different) as its new alphabet like modern Hebrew (no offense but there is 0 chance that uneducated people are going to learn cuneiform, I speak 6 languages and it still feels impossible to learn that and I want to make it easy), any help is appreciated!

16 Comments
2024/11/27
21:08 UTC

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Michigan woman goes on a rampage against Chaldean wedding procession on X

In tune with the recent election that’s been discussed on here and the environment that Trump’s win has created, many people are more bold in their racist and hateful behavior. On X, a white American woman (under a pseudonym) posted a hate filled rant against her Chaldean neighbors who were celebrating our pre-wedding procession: https://x.com/theantiherokate/status/1860804536757002741?s=46 As you can see, there are many hateful, MAGA clowns who agree with her. Although most of these opinions are anonymous, they are also representative of the large tensions in our country and the large amount of people who genuinely believe think like this. Growing up in Michigan, I can assure you that these kinds of people are not rare by any means and do a lot of damage to our people.

Many people think that it was Obama’s era that was the catalyst for identity politics. I would argue that seeing a black man as president opened up the door for the concerns and experiences of minorities to be presented in the mainstream. Trump’s win in 2016 emboldened a lot of people who would have usually kept their hate to themselves and we’ve been seeing the effect of it 8 years later. I believe that it’s getting worse with his current win. Many (white) Americans are beginning to hate (non-white) “immigrants” of all kinds of backgrounds, legal or illegal. Trump is promising to revoke birthright citizenship and institute the largest deportation plan since WW2. What happens when this xenophobia shifts onto a minority like us?

Food for thought: In my state, Michigan, we have the largest Chaldean Catholic diaspora in the world. My family settled here before the Iraq war, so I remember growing up where there weren’t many Chaldeans here. I remember the tension that happened when many Chaldeans immigrated here as refugees because of the Iraq war almost 20 years ago. I have grown up seeing the community as recent arrivals. I’ve also seen the transformation to a successful, resourceful and industrial minority that’s been able to climb the financial ladder quickly. However, the community here is still very much insular, lacking representation in larger sectors of American society (like corporate, law, cinema to name a few). Although there are successful Chaldeans in those sectors, the success this community has found is mostly within itself. We can’t ignore the overall atmosphere in Michigan that indirectly encourages this, along with our own paranoid village mentality. What happens when no one stands with us? Some people dismissed the cruelty of Jimmy Daoud’s case, arguing that he “deserved” it. Yet, we are all him. Vulnerable, underrepresented, and at risk.

40 Comments
2024/11/27
16:33 UTC

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Is it true that we had a state during WW1?

if so, how long did it last? and how did it fall?

19 Comments
2024/11/27
03:59 UTC

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Thinking of telling my Assyrian friends that I’m not Christian

Shlama everyone, I am fully an Assyrian myself but I’m Agnostic and I’m polytheist that follows the Mesopotamian religion. I do this for tradition though. I have three friends, one is an Assyrian, the other is Mexican, and then I have an Iraqi Arab friend. I have told my Mexican friend that I am polytheist, she was completely okay with it and she’s very Christian herself. But I am very afraid to tell my other two friends because of past experiences of telling my friends that I’m not a Christian. I am afraid that they will not want to be friends with me anymore because I really don’t want to be a loner at school I already don’t have my friends in my classes. But I am also thinking that I can take this slow and show them that I’m not Christian instead of straight up telling them. My Assyrian friend got a rosary for my birthday and I’ve worn it very few times but it usually just sits in my closet. My friend goes to church very often and she likes to tell people things so that’s what worries me but at the same time I don’t want to fake being a Christian.

What should I do or when should I tell them?

16 Comments
2024/11/26
15:57 UTC

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Can't we do a compromise?

I'm a Muslim Turk. And lately I have been developing sympathies for Assyrians, who have been into trouble lately. First Saddam, then ISiS. I think Assyrians deserve their state. Not for us to use you guys as cannon fodders against Kurds. But to reconcile between Turkish Muslims and Assyrian Christians, and I think it will be easy given the low amount of hostilites. (I don't think a certain Turkish man's gonna do such a thing.)

Onto the issue of Sayfo... Yes, I acknowledge that Assyrians died because of us... But that couldn't and shouldn't be described as genocide, since Armenians (and any hostile nations) would label us Turks as barbarians. Calling it the Assyrian Exile/Catastrophe would be more fitting as both Assyrians (direct loss of their lives) and Turks (loss of a possible Christian brother), since we would prove that we Turks are also normal people. Well, not normal like the Europeans, but to some acceptable degree for Assyrian and Turkish Nationalists alike. Yes, we may still call Enver Pasha a national hero today, but no hero is without any blunders/mistakes.

And there is the fact that we don't share (or share little) in claims and a compromise would solve that. Plus we aren't hostile towards each other. And an Assyrian state would stop the US from having another puppet in the Middle East.

Let us forgive our past mistakes and build a peaceful future. Please. I beg you.

Sincerely,

A Nationalist (but willing to compromise) Muslim Turk.

P.S.: I won't have any genocidal intent against you guys if you refuse. I promise. I like Assyrian/Nestorian/Chaldean Christianity as much as I like Judaism.

P.S., II: And if you didn't understand something, you can ask it through DMS

18 Comments
2024/11/25
19:31 UTC

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european suryoyos working hard on that separatism

38 Comments
2024/11/25
18:46 UTC

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Assyrian song for a walkout/intro at a fight

Shlamalokhon nashe👋🏽 So im a fighter (Muay Thai/ K1 kickboxing) , i recently started competing in summer. since then i have been looking for a good Assyrian song to use as my intro, im not there yet where people walk behind me with the Assyrian flag😂 but still want to represent in some way. I asked the same question in a Assyrian discord server but the responses were for the most not part serious/trolls. I would like the song to be somewhat intimidating, maybe something that is related to war or something patriotic. And keep in mind that its only last for 15-30 seconds.

Thank you in advance, Alaha hawe mnokhon❤️

32 Comments
2024/11/25
11:41 UTC

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Were Messalians / Euchites Assyrian? If not, what was their connection to them?

I've just learned about Messalians, which is apparently originally a Syriac word. This is my first time ever hearing about this sect. Are there any records about them from Assyrian sources, even if they weren't Assyrian? Their practices sound like a mystical tradition making a transition between paganism to Christianity.

3 Comments
2024/11/25
03:25 UTC

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Clip from Iraqi Newspaper in 1933. A clear indicator that it was US particular type of Assyrians that were targeted, and there is still that bias towards us because of this very event.

24 Comments
2024/11/24
18:19 UTC

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Assyrian Relief in Mosul

Mosul municipality is building the largest relief in the middle east depicting Assyrian symbols, the attached image shows less than 20% of it. I'll post updated photos when it gets completed.

10 Comments
2024/11/24
15:55 UTC

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I want to learn Arabic to speak to my partners family, please help!

Hi everyone! I have an amazing partner, sadly I am very basic fool and only speak English. Their family on the other hand, speaks so many languages its insane. I would love to learn their native language and be able to use it to speak to the family as well as surprise them all during our wedding in 1~ year and do part of my speech using it.

I have tried to talk to some of their cousins to find out more info on where and what exactly they speak but they don't have some perfect answer for me sadly.

They for sure speak an "Arabic" language, they are Chaldean and from what I understand, their family originates from Sheyoz/Shiuz? The closest answer I got from them was "Chaldean Neo-Aramic." As someone who hasn't learnt much more then basic phrases in pretty standard languages Mandarin/Japanese/local Australian Indigenous, the latter of which is the closest in terms or regionality and dialect separation between areas, all the help I can get would be amazing.

If people who know about the area or have a good understanding on where someone brand new to language like this should start, I would be so blessed and thankful for any help. To not only be part of the family but to be included in all aspects is something I very much want.

9 Comments
2024/11/24
11:56 UTC

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Can anyone help me read this? I was told it was Assyrian?

6 Comments
2024/11/24
08:02 UTC

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Kurdish involvement in the assyrian genocide

I'm Kurdish, and I recently learned about the Assyrian Genocide, including the involvement of some Kurds in these tragic events. As a Kurd, this deeply saddens and disgraces me. I have only had positive experiences with Assyrians in my life. I genuinely wish for us to see each other more positively, build bridges and move forward together.

I understand that words alone can not undo the hurt of the past, I hope that acknowledging this truth and expressing my sorrow can be a small step toward healing. I personally honor your incredible strength and the beauty of your culture, history, and faith.

Khubba w shlama l'kulleh.

41 Comments
2024/11/24
03:26 UTC

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