/r/antiMLM
Multi Level Marketing (MLM) schemes are a drain on our society. Its participants either build the pyramid taller or get squashed by it.
Multi Level Marketing (MLM) schemes are a drain on our society. Its participants either build the pyramid taller, or get squashed by it.
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What is an MLM?
The idea behind MLMs is that people pay to become distributors of a product. These can be physical products or services. The company is structured so that the people above (the person who recruited or signed up the new distributor, the people above them, ad infinitum) get a percentage of whatever the distributor sells. The new distributor is encouraged not only to sell the product, but to sign up other people below them so that they can make even more money. courtesy u/copacetic1515
What is a "Hun"?
People who shill products/services for an MLM. The sellers have a tendency to frequently use the word "hun" when initiating a sales pitch. Ex: “Hey hun ❤️❤️ I see your aunt is dying 😱😱 anyway hun 😊💁♀️ wanna buy my oils it’s good for stress 😍😘😘” courtesy u/fiestaspongebob
Here are a few examples of the type of content we actively seek:
Watch John Oliver's video explanation of MLMS here
Check out Rare Earth's video on MLMs
Find the comprehensive Income Disclosure Analysis Master Thread here courtesy of u/flippzar as well as their list of Common MLM Claims
To learn more about Younique, check out Elle Beau's Poonique Story
Check out the movie Betting on Zero to learn about the nefarious MLM that is Herbalife
For more information about Mary Kay, check out Pink Truth
Secret Sister Post & Infographic courtesy of u/juxtaposition1978
Where do MLMs manufacture their products? courtesy of u/MLMexposed
For more information on Amway check out Amway: The Untold Story - Amway Statistics
Contemplating getting out, or have you already left an MLM? Check out r/MLMRecovery
Tired of memes and looking for MLM stories and rants only? Share and read over at r/MLMstories
Watch out for /r/scams and share them!
Marvel at awful fashion choices at r/LuLaNo
Cringe away at some fab-tabulous makeup application at r/Youniqueamua
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Isn’t Tupperware done?
She uses the holy grail oil and this...and her hair looks 🫣 like she uses Monat.
Two years ago, Monat was preying on SO many girls. They had a cult-like following and posted nonstop. Then, all at once, all of them go completely quiet. All their old promo post were deleted. I knew of 6-7 girls sucked into it, and it seemed to happen all at once. Does anyone have any insights on what happened? Something had to have blown up for them all to kick the can at once.
Genuinely curious and happy they got out! Hoping this is the downfall of Monat.
The Bible and MLMs really go hand in hand, huh?
This company began spamming me last nite while I was at work and called with several untraceable phone numbers.
Long rant incoming...
There's a woman at my gym whom I chat with occasionally after class. We're not exactly friends, but we're friendly. For years, she's mentioned that she works in pet food sales, which always made me a bit suspicious since she never mentioned the company name. I figured it wasn't a big deal in casual conversation, so I let it slide.
Last night, she tried to pitch her dog food to me, and after a 15-minute conversation, I realized she never mentioned the name of the product.
It's one thing not to mention your company's name in a casual chat, but it's highly suspicious when you're trying to sell me on how great this mysterious dog food is. What really bothered me was that she spoke negatively about the dog food I use for my dogs and how I shop on Chewy instead of locally. This convinced me she's in an MLM because her shaming sales pitch, combined with the lack of a company name, set off all the red flags.
Sure, I could have asked her directly, but honestly, I'm not interested in debating my anti-MLM stance with her. She tends to be a know-it-all and very stubborn, making it impossible for her to accept she might be wrong. I find it challenging to talk to people like that because I'm not stupid, and I don't appreciate being told I'm wrong when I have evidence to back up my views. I'm open to discussions that broaden my perspective, but discovering someone works for an MLM shuts me down completely.
For what it's worth, there are only two very small local dog food stores near me. People often push the "shop local" agenda, and while I understand it, I'm not going to shop locally just for the sake of it if I can't get the same level of service and convenience as I do from Chewy. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but it's the truth. Also, if your product is so great and you can give me a pitch, why can't you tell me what it actually is? I really despise sales pitches that make me feel bad.
TLDR: There's a woman at my gym who keeps trying to sell me dog food but never mentions the company name, which makes me suspect she's involved in a dog food MLM. She also criticizes my dog food choices. Has anyone else encountered a dog food MLM?
Give me a thread of questions to ask/stump this guy during our “interview.”
The Monat Passport trip to Tulum has come and gone with barely a whisper. Did anyone else notice this? Only 3 of the numerous huns I follow out of morbid curiosity qualified or went to it. Almost all of them used to go on these trips in the past. And this year, the attendees barely made a big deal out of it on their stories. The crowd at the main party seemed smaller too, with lots of spouses pumping up the numbers. I wonder at what point attendance gets so low they have to cancel the trip incentives?
I quickly realized what was going on and I deleted the app they had me sign up for, I didn’t give any card info or anything like that, so am I in the clear ?
After a long day at work, I like to settle in on the couch with my kiddos.... and watch a psudo-CEO talk nonsense about getting other people to sell shampoo.
So this dude posted a generic pic that their company is expanding. No name of the company at all. My MLM senses were tingling so I privately messaged the guy. He physically called me on WhatsApp.
I asked what company he's from...he said oh it's Aegon, from the Netherlands, which is their parent company. I said I don't want to know the parent company, what's the actual company to which he said it's Transamerica.
He asked why I am asking so I said hey I'm curious. So he asked if I wanted to join. I said nope, I'm not interested in an MLM. He said he doesn't know what an MLM is, to which I laughed internally. He asked what an MLM is, to which I explained what it is. I said I've spoken to many Transamerica people and they've admitted it to me. He said oh give me the names and that I have limited information. He had a greater than thou attitude, and kept saying I have limited information. I said listen dude, I know exactly what you do.
He says "okay byyyyee" and hung up.
These guys...honestly....
Following a couple of MLM'ers Ive seen a couple migrate towards what are likely clear illegal scams. 1) seeking investors for what appears to be a straight up ponzi investment scheme. 2). Looking for people to give over power of attorney to allow someone to open up merchant credit card processing accounts in their name to do God knows what.
Anyone else see people migrate towards 'opportunities' like this?
So annoying - and I’m probably more annoyed than I should be.
Back story: Our local Facebook moms group admin and me have some previous beef. She is deep in the scentsy cult PLUS She hasn’t lived in this town for 7+ years now.
We used to go to church together. Not to bring politics into it, but we had a little back and forth on Facebook regarding immigration and trump. I’m married to an immigrant and walked through the whole process recently. She was adopted as a young baby out of foster care to a white family, as a child of an immigrant. She’s super anti-immigration. I truly don’t understand. Anyways. We unfriended each other.
To the group: There’s rules to not promote your own business. Fair. Except - I can’t tell you how many times she is on there posting how she has to meet her goal to pay for her child’s activities and is constantly shilling it to the group. Fine, whatever.
My current employer with great benefits, PTO, etc. (legit company) is opening a new office and hiring in the area. Great company to work for as a mom. There is always ladies asking for job leads, so I thought to post it. Rejected for promoting my BUSINESS? I’m sorry, what?!
This is after a couple of weeks ago asking if anyone in the area had seen a specific costume I was looking for my child. Declined to post from the admin. Literally no rules against that. This has happened multiple times where she has declined my posts for literally no reason.
I just had to come and complain because it feels like she is picking on my posts and it’s literally the largest “platform” to ask local questions and she has control over it.
Ugh, Im so mad.
A week or so ago an Avon booklet went through the letterbox. It went straight into the bin.
Today a lady came back and rudely said she was here to collect it. I said we don't have it, we tossed it. She got annoyed and said I could have left it outside. I said 'how am I supposed to know to do that?' she said 'those cost money, you know'. I was like ok, not my problem. Also no I didn't know that. I'm not leaving a booklet outside for it to get waterlogged and destroyed and cause litter, and I'm not keeping junk mail in my house.
Anyway. I got really upset. I'm neurodivergent so random people showing up and getting angry at me is really hard.
I think she's the same one that came to the door last year and tried to get me to join her team. I said I had to go get back to work. She said 'if you joined me you wouldn't have to work'. I told her I'd rather work than do whatever the hell she's doing