Hello,

To give you some context. I was a daily cannabis consumer for 16 years. Seven months ago, I stopped consuming and switched to only CBD cannabis (without THC). Both in flower and rosin, that is, full spectrum.

This Saturday I bought a disposable vaporizer and tried H4CBD. I have completely fallen in love with this substance. As I have read here, it is like I always imagined CBD would be. Although the effect is almost perfect, the downside is that it seems a bit weak to me, both in duration and intensity. I don't know if being a heavy CBD consumer affects tolerance to H4CBD, but I was surprised by my resistance to it given my abstinence from THC for 7 months.

That’s why I would like to continue with H4CBD for a while but feel its effects a bit more.

Is there any way to achieve more intense effects? What cannabinoid blend could help with this (excluding both THC and HHC; I'm looking to enhance the relaxing effects that I almost feel like a benzo)?

I live in Europe, in a country where cannabis is illegal and access to high and minor cannabinoids is limited and expensive. I have access to:

• CBD
• Full spectrum CBD
• CBN
• CBG
• CBT
• Gilded’s CBD CDR (CBD 42.1% CBC 9.02% CBT 7.58% CBN 4.69% CBE 4.14% CBG 3.75% CBDV 0.707% CBL 0.586%)

My hypothesis is that 5%-10% CBT will enhance the effect of H4CBD (although I only have 1 ml left and will hardly have access to that cannabinoid again).

I wonder:

• Could mixing Gilded’s CBD CDR enhance it? Wouldn’t the CBD take up space from H4CBD?

• Could CBD rosin act as an enhancer by providing a full spectrum experience?

My problem:

Initially, I don’t think CBN is an option. I was making mixes of CBD rosin to have a compound with sedative effects. Adding 5% CBN made no difference. Adding 10% to 20% CBN made it very difficult for me to get out of bed the next day, and once up, the mental fog and lethargy were very intense and lasted all morning.

All this refers to vaping. For the moment edibles aren't on my radar.

Thank you for reading me, and I look forward to your suggestions and comments.

So I've never used a CBN product in any form. What would the community recommend if my main goal is to bring about better sleep? Should I dab a pinhead amount of isolate or distillate, mix it with my full spectrum CBD distillate, etc.?

Has anybody ever experienced uncomfortable anxiety from using CBN?

Interested in any of your experiences with CBN by itself and paired with other cannabinoids.

I take 10 to 25mg of edibles from a dispensary every night after kids go to bed but one night I ran out and a coworker gave me a ghost branded gummy. Here's where it gets crazy, the package listed it as 10 mgs but there is no way. I ate one at 8pm, and felt nothing until around 230 am when I was trying to go to bed. It didn't make me stoned, it actually fucked me up really bad. I couldn't sleep all night and was just tossing and turning and reflecting on life like a horrible shroom trip. I felt my blood pressure tank and felt weird pressure in my eyes. The next day I woke up ghost white and full on fainted and slammed on the ground. I was extremely fucked up for about two days and I remember almost none of it. My question is wtf was going on here, there's no way this was THC. Has anyone had any experience like this with THC alternatives or something?

Has anyone ever tried it? Or one of the other noids like hhc or thcp? I know about cbd/cbg etc.

Background for me has been in the alt cannabinoid industry for years in business development, and have had hands on partnerships and dealings with many distillate sourcing companies in the alt cannabinoid industry. I am of the belief that distillate companies are sending lower potency cannabinoids on small-medium sized orders that are in the ballpark of what would be classified as a “consumer purchase”, not a business purchase.

Basically, smaller orders for high potency cannabinoids like THCP, THCH, and HHCP are being swapped out for weaker cannabinoids like HHC, D8-THCP, or simply just D8 even. I do not believe this is directly a means for the company to intentionally advertise a cannabinoid they dont have in stock. I have purchased personal amounts of strong cannabinoid variants from some of the companies I worked with, using a different address and name(since it’s not for a business order, thus I don’t include my boss’s name on the address form)going through their retail-side businesses that are specialized for such smaller purchases for the broader customer base.

I am now of the conclusion, after multiple instances of weird inconsistencies in potency from companies on the business side bulk orders vs small personal orders, that companies are picking and choosing which orders to send a replacement cannabinoid of weaker potency in place of the intended one. This is being done for a couple reasons, I posit;

1.) some of these cannabinoids are absurdly potent, and even a couple are so strong that if a cannabinoid newbie were to get their hands on it, there is a very high likelihood of a physical or mental health incident occurring. This would have dramatic downstream repercussions for both the company and the community.

2.) some of the cannabinoids available to an individual are actually in more legally shaky territory compared to others at a state level. In instances where an individual orders a cannabinoid deemed such a risk due to state guidelines and prosecution trends, they will send a more “legally safe” cannabinoid that is most similar to the intended product’s effects. They do not want to lose money on customer orders by having a ban on certain states for ordering, so the best way to get around it is to swap out the product itself, and not tell the customer such a thing is being done.

I think this would explain like 90% of the discrepancies that can be found on the forum when it comes to assessed personal potency of cannabinoids. Some of these anecdotal accounts are so far from the actual baseline, that this is the only logical explanation for why this is occurring at such a broad level.

Anyone share the same feeling as me on this?

What's up gang, loving the combo of CBD/CBGa isolate for daytime use. I take around 70mg of CBGa to 30mg CBD and it's greatly reduced my anxiety/negative self talk/and improved satisfaction. I eat the isolate with my morning yogurt.

Im planning on buying CBN specifically for sleep and seeing if it improves my sleep quality at all. Acknowledging how subjective this can all be, I have three questions:

In the search thread I've seen that it's great for falling asleep I assume but can anyone speak to feeling better rested ?

Would adding it to my daytime use enhance anything(around 30mg) or should I plan to use it at night ?

For these uses CBN of CBNo the better options ?

Morning all, I have hopefully a quick question. I have a jar of D8O and a jar of D9O that have been in my garage drink fridge for over a year - I bought them thinking I'd use more of them in my blends, but I kinda forgot about them. The fridge is super cold, above freezing but very chilly. Are these noids viable and if so, in what way? Meaning can one still vape them or would it be best in an edible only? Or should I just toss them - I'm not too concerned with any loss of money, I just hate wasting stuff if it's still good!

Beyond that, what is the general shelf life on distillate or how long do yall tend to keep yours around (assuming it lasts)?

Thanks for any advice!

Planning to get some, but I'm not sure since 10-OH-HHC didnt had a big effect on me.

HHC is banned where i live so im looking for an alternative. I know P-Noids are supposed to be really potent but is that true for the noids with an added hydroxy group as well?

okay if you saw the post made earlier on this sub then yk a girl tried a bit of thc-p and was continuously paranoid and not ok. i’d first like to say that this is not at all my boyfriends fault. He is really taking this out on himself for something he couldn’t control and i think some comments from the previous post where cruel and he did not deserve it. he took care of me well and his actions where not the cause of my paranoia.

i’ll start by saying i grew up in a house hold were i was raised to not treat alcohol as a negative thing and to have a good relationship with alc. i’ve had my phases where id get a little out of hand but i never had any hospital visits. now on the contrary- i was raised to believe any type of drug aside alcohol was gonna kill me or turn me into a homeless crack addict on the spot; meaning i’ve always been a bit scared with trying new things.

my boyfriend and i have been together for 2+ years and i couldn’t picture it any other way. along the road that took us our relationship we had a lot of fights over him using drugs behind my back, but we put that in the past and he’s been sober for almost a year now and i am so proud of him. now, this is where this plays a part. he was raised to believe alcohol would kill him. so yeah- we’re polar opposites…

now that you know some info let me tell you what happened last night.

his very trusted friends that he’s known for a long time pulled up next to us and asked if we wanted some gummies. without a yes or a no, he throws it to my boyfriend and leaves (in a car). it was dark outside and it wasn’t my bf’s first time getting something from the guy and he’s never had a problem with that before; so we didn’t think anything of it. so, because i wanted to try something for my first time i thought why not. i took literally way less than 1/4, and we carried on with our night. now, because we where at my neighborhood staying at my parents house, i think that’s what really ticked it off. though i’m older and my parents aren’t on my case as much anymore- they will still be super angry and yell at me and i HATE yelling more than anything. so, i was just in the backyard on one of the neighbors trampolines when it hit and i started to (what i believe to be) hallucinate. when i remembered my parents where out front i began to panic and want to leave… but then my parents had asked me to drive them home and my dumbass said yes. i still had about 2 hours before they intended on me doing so, so i thought it would have worn off by then because my bf and i where still under the impression i was high off of a normal edible. well surprise surprise it wasn’t, and he had realized as i started to spiral and was obviously tripping dick. i felt like i was traveling in time and 3 hours became 6 so quick. i was stuck in a loop and even worse my parents didn’t want us to be at home alone due to them being scared of sex before marriage. it was an extremely hard night for me due to being so scared that was i was going against my families beliefs, not at home, and that i said yes to driving home. thankfully that wasn’t the case. apparently from my bf, my dad had picked us up and gave us a ride home, and apparently i acted completely fine in-front of my parents. my boyfriend said as if i just “immediately sobered up”. he took me to lay on a couch in a room barely used by my parents where i just lay in his arms and fell asleep for an hour, before he brought me to bed- and i passed tf our. my high (at night) lasted from what i remember to be 7:30ish to 10:18 (in which felt like 6 hours, and ontop of that i barely remember anything) then i slept and had an amazing night of sleep (oml so good) and woke up the next day knowing i’d have to drive all the way back to the city (20ish minutes away) to get to school. (dw my bf drove). i was for so reason kinda high again for about 4ish hours (10:45-2:30ish?) and from there on i’ve just been crashing full of fatigue and sooo tired.

my boyfriend did a lot of research and reached out for help today, and although i don’t remember much- i heard from many people that he took good care of me and i don’t doubt it. i am really grateful to my boyfriend who may not have been tripping but probably was traumatized by my experience , and for that i am so so sorry. i wont let this ruin my look on halloween, its still one of my forever favorites holidays. i just really wish we knew what was handed to us and that i made better decisions. than what i thought was ok. My parents never found out, so through all of our efforts im so glad i was not disowned and that in the end my parents which i was so worried about never found out- it was a huge weight lifted off my shoulders.

i’ve had a very rough last 24 hours and im just now feeling sober again. id appreciate some feedback on how i can go about this better in the future and would be greatful if you’d keep going if youre just gonna say something bitchy or snarky, i get what we did was immature and i understand if everyone finds this dumb but i am not mentally okay enough to sit here through a bunch of randos online telling me that im a fuck up. Thanks for listening.

So incredibly frustrated. Wondering if anyone else has had similar issues or if I'm a fucking idiot. Just picked up this green six shooter from cactus labs and clicked it 5 times, lit up, tried all the coils, took the mouth cover off obv, it's on a charger atm .... Nothing. Absolutely nothing. I don't understand. Anyone else have the same experience?

my old hhc-o vape pen was notably harder than regular vapes to inhale and my thcp vape is even worse.

Bitter taste and thick, dry smoke. Every time I use it i wake up the next day with either a sore throat or my vocal cords completely fried. Is this normal for alternative cannabinoid vape pens?

(if it matters i use cartridges with one of those batteries)

Just trying to gauge my limitations. If I mixed 30 mL of 100 proof (50%) vodka with a 3 gram blend, would that amount of alcohol dissolve the noids? That would be 100 mg/mL.

How many times can you take a P-noids without creating too much tolerance ( for delta 9 and regular HHC). I'm in pain and need something stronger but I worry that other noids stop working

I am not worried about strength as my tolerance is so high only massive dabs or very high% THC-/HHC-P rips (30+%) get me truly high. I'm not worried about duration as, again, I stay high 24/7/365, so that's not a problem. But compared to THCP/HHCP, what kind of effects can I expect (aka more indica-y or sativa-y), and more importantly, would 500mg vaped/dabbed at say 20% ratio as a treat over 1 week mess my tolerance up too bad?

There's a medical benefit I get from anticholinergic drugs, so I'm trying to figure out, as a proxy, which noids have the strongest side effect of drying out mucous membranes.

I recently discovered that I got some relief from a vape with 85% D8 + 5% D9p (+ very small amounts of other noids), but I don't think I get that with HHC alone, which is so far the only psychoactive in the blend I'm planning on making. What noids could I add to maximize this effect?

(I understand this is kind of a funny question because I don't like having a dry mouth or eyes either, but it's the easiest proxy for what I am looking for.)

It’s SUPER terpy like tastes like a gassy fruit forest lmao. Pretty potent stuff i’d say and if you don’t snag it on the drop date then it’s very hard to get ahold of. The htfse sold out within an hour after drop. But definitely worth signing up on the site so you can get notified about the drops. Usually around once a month with this stuff

So, I've got a handful of people asking me to make them sleep gummies. I have a high tolerance so I eat lots of psychoactive noids, they have next to nothing. Like they only use cannabis to sleep every other week for night shift, and they drive hours to get to a dispensary for it.

I was thinking 15 mg hhc, 15 mg d9, 5-10 mg hhco, 10-20 mg cbno, 10 mg cbn, 10 mg cbdv, 10 mg h4cbd, 5 mg cbc per gummy.

Too many cnoids? I'm wanting to blow their mind idk

Edit:

The edibles they eat for the most part are 50 mg THC 25 mg CBN 10 mg cbc, and they occasionally split them in half.

Some of them also take the same but with CBG during the daytime.

So I know the brand cake in the hemp market has been talked down but I really enjoy this glow 3.0.

The other cakes that came in the red cylinder and the white cylinder disposables were very harsh I couldn't even finish one this one is actually surprisingly very smooth and the effects are definitely there I'd say they definitely stepped up their game with their glow devices..

"Establishes possession limits for personal use" that's the part that really got me when I read over the actual paragraph.

Has anyone tried dablicators with distillate? My local dispo sells them filled with d9 but had the idea of filling one with hhc. It's beyond aggravating trying to get it out the jar or s syringe. A dablicator would be super convenient.

How long does a HHC edible last and how many times should I dose every day. I usually take 35mg in one dose is this the correct amount ?

How liquid is HHC-O ? Is it solid like HHC or liquid like honey ? Is it easier to work with ? Working with regular HHC was a pain in the ass due to its solid state.

Hi I'm new to all this and after reading what's on Turkey's website and here. I ordered THCa, CBD, CBN CBG isolate along with CBC distillate and terpenes. I'd appreciate any tips or if I'm missing something. Thanks

I've never smoked THCp before, and upon further research, apparently it's more potent/stronger than regular THC.

The worker at the smoke shop kind of downplayed THCp, said it was basically THCa lol

Am I being anxious or is this stuff strong as most people on this subreddit say it is?

I've done a lot of reading on here and /r/DistillateVapeMods and I'm confused about the pros and cons of each.

Are people who use e-rig devices (Puffco Peak, Yocan Orbit, Pulsar APX Volt, etc.) loading up an individual dab each time? Can you leave a certain amount in the chamber to use on the go? Are these devices more efficient? Is it harder on your throat than a tank?

Does one way of doing it have more flavor?

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Also, are there any advantages to 510 carts other than size and portability? From what I've read, you can't fill each up more than a couple times, which means you'll go through a lot of $3–10 carts pretty quickly, compared to a ceramic vape coil or an e-rig, which has parts that may never need to be replaced, right? Do 510 carts have worse flavor? Is there any benefit to only being able to take small hits, like if you have a low tolerance?

Thanks :)

Special thanks to /u/eBanta for linking to this post by /u/theCumCatcher.

This method breaks up cannabinoids into smaller particles and suspends them in an alcohol solution, which can then be added to food or drink. The intention is to allow the noids to more efficiently absorb and bypass the liver, so this should work for those who don't feel traditional edibles. Plus it hits faster and harder, mg for mg. I'm aware that this may not be a true nano emulsification, but it seems to work, so who cares.

The original recipe was overly complicated to me and utilized THCa concentrates that had to be decarbed. I wanted to scale it down to a smaller batch size and utilize distillate that was already decarbed. I feel like my first test batch was a success. Not only do I want to share my methods, I would love if others tried this and we could crowdsouce improvements.

Equipment

• Small pot
• Ball jar with lid
• Digital scales
• Measuring cups or graduated cylinder

Ingredients

• Distillate
• Food grade sodium citrate
• Vodka, gin or other 40%-50% alcohol without added sugar
• Honey

Process

• Add water to pot and begin bringing to a boil.
• Add 3.17 grams of sodium citrate and roughly 100 mL alcohol to Ball jar.
• Submerge Ball jar in pot of water and fully dissolve sodium citrate. It'll take a lot of stirring and the heat will help.
• Remove Ball jar from pot and add 0.5 grams (500 mg) of distillate. I used delta 8.
• The distillate should float in the middle of the alcohol/citrate. Add honey a little at a time if it's at the bottom. Add alcohol a little at a time if it's at the top.
• With lid loosely screwed on, place Ball jar in boiling water for 10 minutes.
• Remove pot from heat. Remove Ball jar from pot.
• Tighten Ball jar lid and shake well.
• Loosen lid and return Ball jar to hot water bath.
• Allow to cool undisturbed in water bath for 20 minutes.
• Remove Ball jar from water bath and allow to cool undisturbed until room temperature.

The end product should be milky white and the nano particles should be nicely suspended in the alcohol. 1 mL will be about 5 mg. Last night I tried 5 mL (~25 mg) at 3:30 in the afternoon. I was for sure feeling it within 15 minutes and it was still hitting when I went to bed at 10:00.

Final Thoughts

• I wonder how important it is to match the density of the distillate with honey or alcohol. Seems like a quick shake would be sufficient if the nano particles settle or float to the top.
• I'd like to try a blend instead of straight distillate, but I'm debating the best method to do that.
• If the amount of noids are increased for a higher per mL concentration, would the citrate also have to be increased?
• The original recipe for this method insisted on filtered and pasteurized honey, but I have doubts on the importance of that.