/r/airforceots

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A subreddit focused on the process of applying to, attending, and graduating from the United States Air Force Officer Training School.

This subreddit is about Air Force OTS; what it takes to get in, what life is like there, and general happenings at the school.

/r/airforceots

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Bi-Weekly 'What are my chances?' Megathread

We've all been there. You're about to submit your package for OTS, but you want to know how you stack up. Should you relax? Should you throw it all away and start over? Well, here's the place for you to ask strangers who have never sat on an OTS board what they think the board is going to think of your package.

There are many variables to an OTS package. If you want to get the best advice, you need to include as much information as possible, like degree information, GPA, AFOQT, PCSM (if applicable), leadership experience, relevant awards, etc. If you only provide your GPA or AFOQT scores, expect to be told "who knows."

There are a ton of variables that go into officer selection. Nobody here can really tell you your chances. We can guess, but that's about it. We've seen people with stellar scores get rejected and people with garbage scores get accepted. It all comes down to the needs of the Air Force and whatever the random colonel reviewing your package thinks.

That being said, post your scores, help each other, and learn what you can do to improve package!

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2024/04/06
20:32 UTC

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ANG UPT AGE ETP

I’ve seen some chatter about the ANG being a blanket no, or incredibly selective with age ETPs.

I’m a 33 year old current CSO with a year left in commitment…

Unit I’ve spoken with had confirmed the NGB isn’t granting them.

Coming here to see if there’s any tangible information on this, where to find it, if it’s just who’s currently in the seat etc.

Thanks!

16 Comments
2024/04/06
19:43 UTC

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Member Letter Requesting Commission and AF Form 56

I’m applying for a Reserve NON-EAD ACP board to commission. Does anyone have examples of the Member Letter Requesting Commission as well as the AF Form 56?

0 Comments
2024/04/06
19:08 UTC

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Any priors have this happen to them after graduating OTS? Almost everything was wiped from my portal too.

8 Comments
2024/04/06
14:38 UTC

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The Talon

Can someone share some pics of "The Talon" (front/back cover and the first few pages)? I'd like to see the Title Page with the publication information.

4 Comments
2024/04/06
03:09 UTC

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Does 0.7 flight hours mean anything for PCSM?

I know that 1-5 is the first bracket for flight hours on pcsm. I have a discovery flight worth .7 hours. Would I still count as having 0 flight hours since it doesn’t hit that 1 hour?

3 Comments
2024/04/06
00:49 UTC

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OTS packets

Hello everyone,

I was curious to ask because I don’t know anyone at my base that is interested in OTS. But what documents does your commander need in order to get his LOR to get access to the AFCEP?

3 Comments
2024/04/05
17:03 UTC

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Class Dates

Hey guys!

How long after submitting your required post selection documents did you receive a class date or WINGs access?

9 Comments
2024/04/05
14:15 UTC

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More OTS Accessions for FY25?

I have have heard a few rumors that OTS is preparing for an increase in students. Is there any merit to this prediction?

2 Comments
2024/04/05
03:15 UTC

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Why are Decs not Included?

Is there any reason why decorations are not included anywhere in the OTS package?

8 Comments
2024/04/04
21:23 UTC

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Non-Rated Board Interview Date Change 24 OTS 03

I spoke with my recruiter and he informed me that they are moving the interview dates forward for 24OTS03 and will begin next week for the next 3-ish weeks instead of June. Has anyone else heard this information?

I'm being schedule but I wasn't expecting it to be so soon. Any advice? Has anyone else heard similar information? Is this normal?

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2024/04/04
19:46 UTC

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Should I wait to take my TBAS until I’ve accumulated around 50 hours of flight time? Or just take it now and continue flying

Title says it all. Should I wait to take it until I have 50 hours (that’s the highest you can get that’s most influential for your PCSM score?) or should I take it now (I feel ready) and continue flying. Does anyone know if I take it now, get my PCSM score then continue flying: does the PCSM score rise with it?

99 AFOQT pilot and so far 12 Flight hours pursuing PPL

5 Comments
2024/04/04
18:55 UTC

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Any planning advice on path to getting an OTS pilot slot?

Hi all, I'm currently a Junior in university majoring in CS graduating spring 2025. I'm planning on trying to commission for a pilot slot through OTS and was wondering if my plan is efficient enough to get me the highest possible chances of selection. (I am way too late for AFROTC and don't want to study for another 2 years).

My current plan is to graduate with a high gpa (3.7 minimum), then immediately focus on getting my PPL the summer right after graduation. I'll then submit my application once I have my ppl and keep building my hours while I wait a year or so for the hear-back.

My question is should I be getting in-touch with a recruiter now? And can I wait on taking the AFOQT tests until after graduation?

5 Comments
2024/04/04
15:33 UTC

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OTS Date Question

My recruiter told me OTS starts JUN18 but none of these class dates match up with that. I am a direct commission in public health but other selectees were placed in the JUL02 date on here, while others are in the same date as me. Any reasoning to my alleged date not showing up on here?

3 Comments
2024/04/04
02:54 UTC

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AFOQT Score Question

I recently took the AFOQT, and I am feeling discouraged about my scores. My scores are: AA-41, Verbal-64 and Quantitative-24. I do however have a 3.5 gpa with a degree in Chemistry, and I am trying to go the Tech route. Thus, I’m wondering if I should wait to retake the AFOQT again to be more competitive or if I should go ahead now and submit my OTS package?

9 Comments
2024/04/04
02:53 UTC

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JAG 1st assignment location

Can anyone shed some light on the process of first assignment for JAG candidates? I know we are supposed to find out before commissioning and heading to OTS, but I am more curious about the actual process. Do they use the ranking from the application or do you submit a new list? Is there any discussion with AF JAX or is it just one option take it or leave it?

2 Comments
2024/04/04
00:58 UTC

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Changes after application cutoff...

I just realized that I submitted the wrong AF LO. The application cutoff is obviously very passed is it too late for me to email AFRS with a request for change?

6 Comments
2024/04/04
00:15 UTC

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Board Schedule Question

I am currently in the beginning stages of the application process for commissioning as an Occupational Therapist with a Doctorate degree. I spoke to my recruiter today and he explained that the earliest boards for my career field would fall in January of 2025. When looking at the board schedule for non-rated it says applications are due by 13 May 24 with boards falling in June 24. Does anyone know why the date would be different than the one posted through the website? If anyone has any experience with this please let me know! Thanks!

4 Comments
2024/04/03
22:03 UTC

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Prior enlisted w 40% VA disability wanting to go back in as officer

I've read so much varying info on trying to go back in with disability. The final answer I've came to is you have to pause VA disability to apply, possibly have to get waivers for said disabilities, if waivers are denied and I can't go back in, I most likely won't be able to resume disability-which is fine, I just want to read what the reg says.

Any one experience this or know more? I can't seem to find a straight answer. Thank you in advance!

11 Comments
2024/04/03
22:01 UTC

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PSA: Guard/Reserve Rated Listing Websites

Hey, everyone! It was recently brought to my and many others' attention that Bogidope will soon be restricting its job listings to those who have a membership (with the lowest tier costing $20/month!).

I have my own feelings about the way the site has gone in the past few years, and this new model costing money in an already expensive process prompted me to make this list. Here are a few of the free resources available to all of you still on the Guard/Reserve hiring hunt:

- Milrecruiter.com

Bogidope, for the time being, sources and links to Milrecruiter hiring pages. Milrecruiter is still free as I write this, and will allow you to bypass the Bogidope listings. It's not as streamlined, but gets the job done.

- Individual State Guard Job Listings

I feel like a lot of people only source their job postings from the aforementioned sources. However, many Guard units still post on their respective state's hiring websites. Sometimes they exclusively post there, too! These sites can usually be found by Googling "State Name National Guard Jobs" or "State Name National Guard HRO" and choosing the link with ngb.mil or the state acronym followed by .gov in the URL. Peruse these for a formal job list with hiring announcements.

- Guard Unit Websites

These are another option, but more miss than hit. Some of the af.mil Guard unit sites don't have recruiting pages, have outdated phone numbers, or recruiting pages that focus on enlisting. They exist, but don't rely on these too much. Those looking at Reserve units might want to stick to Milrecruiter for now, unfortunately.

- Flyingsquadron.com

The Baseops forum, flyingsquadron.com, is one of the oldest and best resources for all things rated. The site used to be much more active, and hopefully it will be again soon. Units don't post there as much these days, but if you have ever needed a question about rated things answered, it's probably there.

- Plain Ol' Networking

There are several units that exist in their own bubble. Don't be annoying, but try and find a point of contact (POC) to at least visit them. They may be wary, but it never hurts to reach out. Call the recruiting team and see if you can get a tour or meet with the various shops. For the Reserve this may be more difficult.

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There are several resources still available to those of you on the job hunt in the Guard/Reserve. While they might require more effort on your part, it is definitely possible to find jobs going forward.

For those of you already in a unit that posts to Bogidope, at least let your hiring POC know that the site is going paid soon. See if they can post on some of these other resources. I know when I was applying, money was tight for traveling to interviews and can still be going to drill after the fact. I'm sure many stellar applicants are feeling financial strain in 2024.

Please feel free to share anything I missed in the replies, too.

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2024/04/03
20:42 UTC

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Application process

So stratifications just came back from my wing. I’m told I placed well among the applicants. I’m curious as to how the process goes now. Does the wing send my documents back so I can submit them to OTS website? First time applicant TIA.

3 Comments
2024/04/03
18:25 UTC

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Degree and STEM Question

Hello everybody! So I am about three semesters from graduation. I’ll need 11 credits each of my remaining semesters. I am a chem major, but if I add 4 classes my bio minor would also change to a major. I know I have the stem box “checked” with the chem, but would adding the bio major make me more competitive or would it be irrelevant? I have advising coming up and wanted to get some advice from you guys before I choose my classes for fall.

4 Comments
2024/04/03
17:13 UTC

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2024 MBA grad GRE/GMAT

Are GRE and GMAT scored required to become an officer in the Air Force. If so, my grad programs didn’t require so I was able to get accepted with out one. Will this hinder me from becoming a officer in the Air Force ?

2 Comments
2024/04/03
14:28 UTC

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Information Technology Officer path

Hey Buddies! So I’m in school now for Information Technology with a concentration in Artificial Intelligence. I want to know if there is anyone with a similar degree that has commissioned and which career did you get? As well as how much do you love said career?

5 Comments
2024/04/03
13:58 UTC

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Information Technology Officer path

Hey Buddies! So I’m in school now tor my Information Technology with a concentration in Artificial Intelligence. I want to know if there is anyone with a similar degree that has commissioned and which career did you get? As well as how much do you love said career?

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2024/04/03
13:58 UTC

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Pilot Pay-to-win?

I access this website just about everyday, and today came upon this fun screen. So now you have to pay just to view the listings?

https://preview.redd.it/8pi27engj9sc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=0c7a8286fd82820aeba7c58970c5a602a3592886

18 Comments
2024/04/03
13:05 UTC

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Best chance for pilot

Hello! I will keep this as quick as possible, I want to be a pilot.

I am currently in college, as a sophomore (almost a junior) studying toward a business degree (I know not STEM😔). I assume I will finish with about a 3.3 GPA. I am curious as to what I should do over the next two years to give myself the best chance at a pilot slot. My school offers an AFROTC program, however, they require three years left on your time at the school, so I could take a year of grad school in order to do the program. I plan on getting flight hours, and if I can afford it on top of paying for school, my PPL. I plan on joining the Civil Air Patrols 18+ program, leading and organizing voulenteer work around my city and school, and creating an aviation club at my school.

My questions for you all, the extra year for AFRTOC will definitely be expensive, but how worth it would it be toward my pilot goal. Also, what else should I do to increase my chances? Should I not do anything listed? Where should I spend my time.

Thank you very much!!

5 Comments
2024/04/03
07:58 UTC

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OTS Selects - What do you think was your strongest reason for selection?

Hey everyone! I’m applying for the 24OTS03 nonrated board and my leadership is having us submit our complete packages to route to Wg CC tomorrow at noon (Endorsement letter of rec not signed yet). I wanted to see if I could get any OTS selects to detail any feedback as to what they think were the biggest reasons they were selected. I’ve seen the powerpoint sent out which gave info on what the previous OTS board members found impactful, but I’d like to see what yall have to say about it. Anything would be helpful for me!

12 Comments
2024/04/03
04:06 UTC

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How old was the oldest person you’ve seen in UPT?

9 Comments
2024/04/03
00:57 UTC

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Getting ready for meps as an OTS applicant

Hey y'all, I'm applying for ots I just finished my afcep and took the afoqt a month ago. My recruiter is going to start to get me set up for meps this week. I haven't had the board interview yet; but I'm curious if my recruiter getting me ready for meps is a good sign? Is it indicative that my recruiter thinks that I'm a good candidate?

He told me when I got the results back from the AFOQT that I did really well, although I'm not sure if that was akin to enlisted recruiter fluff that they tell their applicants.

Am I looking into this too much or is not really meaningful?

4 Comments
2024/04/03
00:54 UTC

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