/r/aircrashinvestigation
For people who are interested in the Canadian TV series, Air Crash Investigation(Everywhere else)/Mayday(Canada)/Air Disasters(US), similar shows, and aviation incidents/accidents in general.
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The reenactment really intrigued me the first time I watched it, as it shows the flight attendant and passengers feeling and hearing the blast before the explosion rips through the cabin and the front of the plane separates. I'm not sure this is accurate, as from what i've heard from medical reports or people who have read the medical reports, when the explosion (NOT A MISSILE) happened it deafened nearly everyone on board and likely ripped through the front cabin. Nearly everyone was thrown forward or back, breaking their necks and internally decapitating them before a fireball erupted through the rest of the cabin and the front broke off. Maybe one of these descriptions is somewhat inaccurate, but please let me know. One of the most ghastly crashes in terms of how passengers died.
Anyone have discord link? The one on the side is not working.
As I'm sure most of you are aware, there have been a number of incidents that have been attributed to a "deep stall" condition. The ones that I can think of off the top of my head are BEA 548, West Caribbean 708, Pulkovo 612, the 1966 Felthorpe Trident Crash, 1963 BAC 1-11 Crash test, Taesa 725, and Aeroflot 5143.
From my understanding, just because an aircraft is capable of entering a deep stall doesn't necessarily mean that any stall that it enters will automatically become a deep stall. So, my question is, for some of these incidents, how do we know that the plane was actually in an unrecoverable deep stall condition, as opposed to just being operated by pilots who weren't able to recognize and recover the situation in time?
Note that I am able to infer the reasoning for a few of the incidents that I've listed:
West Caribbean 708-both engines flamed out which I believe is one consequence of a deep stall condition (wings blocking airflow from rear-mounted engines-correct me if I'm wrong on this)
1966 Felthorpe Trident Crash-The operating pilots stated that they were in a deep stall
BAC 1-11 Crash test: the plane was specifically being tested for stall-related tests and the pilots could not recover it
For the rest of these incidents, however, I am unable to find any concrete evidence that the aircraft was actually unrecoverable. Pulkovo 612 in particular stands out to me because nobody on the crew actually made any effort to recover the plane, so how do we know for sure that it wasn't recoverable?
i dont think any of these will be included, its just incidents i think could make good episodes. idk im new here
(EDIT: Changed date: 1995-1996)
Why the hell do they allow pilots to be flying in bad weather and why don’t they look more into pilots before actually saying welcome to this company I seen a episode where there were ppeole who were flying the plane who weren’t even pilots I can’t remeber the episode but yeah I don’t know why they do this to pilots
Andreas Prodromou entered the cockpit and sat down in the captain's seat, having remained conscious by using a portable oxygen supply.
It says on WIkipedia this:
Early media reports erroneously claimed his girlfriend and fellow flight attendant, Haris Charalambous, was also seen in the cockpit helping Prodromou try to control the aircraft.
And this is the debate part on Wikipedia:
According to a July 2006 television documentary, blood samples that were found in the radar controls were matched to Prodromou’s DNA and also those of Haris, which led the documentary's investigators to the conclusion that the two flight attendants were trying to save the plane.
However, the official investigation report published in October 2006 said the F-16 crew only saw one male in the cockpit and did not mention DNA evidence. Prodromou held a UK Commercial Pilot Licence, but was not qualified to fly the Boeing 737.
If an airplane must dump fuel over land instead of the ocean, does this land on the houses and people below? I'm assuming the temperature and speed must hold some sway here, but just curious.
Note:These Were The Footages about Aviation Accidents which featured in Air Crash Investigation
2002 Überlingen Mid-Air Collision
European Air Transport Flight 209 And Another Angle
Chalk's Ocean Airways Flight 101
Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 182
Reeve Aleutians Airways Flight 8
Secretariat of the Interior XC-VMC
So ive searched but found no pic of hughes airwest 706 survivor,if you guys can find a photo then i would appriciate it!
Midwest Flight 105: I mean, it checks basically all the boxes required for a good episode and probably the one reason an episode hasn't been made on it is because it happened in 1985.
Srivajaya Air Flight 185: Probably going to get an episode sometime between now and the heat death of the universe, still caused less deaths than most other Indonesian accidents but I don't believe that will be a deal-breaker.
LOT flight 16: It's a belly landing that could be a cool addition, I don't think they've done any accidents that happened in Poland(The 2010 Polish Presidential plane crash happened in Russia mind you).
Knight Air flight 816: Slightly less likely since they already have had episodes in Britian but still pretty odd.
Southwest flight 1248: I mean, it could happen.
US Air Flight 5050: Pretty cool although I think they may have rejected this idea already.
Air Niugini flight 73: Same as above
Yeti Airlines Flight 691: Systemic rot accidents aren't that great for this, especially when you know change is not going to come anytime soon.
Dana Air flight 992: Good news: The systemic rot was solved (Mostly), Bad news: This is in Nigeria and I have no clue (Nor am I very optimistic) about the interview ability of that area.
Air Canada Flight 759: Would make a great episode, TO BAD NOBODY EVER TALKS ABOUT IT!
Turkish Airlines 6491: Cool but not all language is PC, also happens in a MAK associated country.
Inex-Adria flight 1381: Would've been a pretty big bop in 2004, but its 2024, the 80s are long gone.
Emirates flight 521: I don't think the UAE government would be willing to talk about this.
Austral Airlines flight 2553: The problem was already talked about in the LAPA flight 3142 episode
Pan Am flight 759: The problem was already talked about in the Delta flight 191 episode
Air India Express flight 812: Problem wasn't solved
American Airlines flight 625: I wish but it happened in 76 so definitely not.
Air Algerie flight 5017: Honestly, I have no hope for this one even though a recreation would look absolutely insane mostly because this happened in Mali and not very much is known anyway as the CVR didn't work so we will never know the final moments.
What new protocols or perhaps technologies have been implemented?
Looking for the episode where crash was caused by a pitot tube that had been covered by tape by maintenance while painting the plane. Thanks in advance!
I’m trying to gather all of the incidents COVERED BY THE SHOW that have actual footage of the crash out there. This is what I have so far:
Überlingen: https://youtu.be/ZZ5mr8hSxns?si=_lfkhF9xVbOhpXmt
Ethiopian 961: https://youtu.be/rEmss85gCbs?si=32Y32aOOel3ix2ZX
Air France 296: https://youtu.be/-kHa3WNerjU?si=4SpWrdKjnizXrD3F
United 232: https://youtu.be/lidm2-26DS0?si=Voru0Tlw7_xsfQ1Y
Reeve Alluetian flight 8: https://youtu.be/1AUhpx_ucxc?si=LbXhK44Ula6Ex7M2
YAK 9633: https://youtu.be/s05_ihItdt4?si=d4gewu8Wc6NaXMb-
Ethiopian 409: https://youtu.be/fIlIceIEQXQ?si=A9CQH6nYEM0MvWdO
FedEx 80: https://youtu.be/VZvbPyt8n20?si=rahZ-nBlaOhik_Yc
Air France 4590: https://youtu.be/vMZk-cHU6Zk?si=CPzG_a0VLSMSO7rV
Asiana 214: https://youtu.be/Bzt2pYbHk1g?si=JnPBJpCjqPZJj9KS
National 102: https://youtu.be/7sUWC2jfjqI?si=8vB3g8U04xNZTCrb
TransAsia 235: https://youtu.be/AUYeFzWtvA8?si=YhqjdJedenfPA53D
Galloping ghost: https://youtu.be/s6mxY7sr1Is?si=6AhGVuvYFuOBiD_L
There’s lots of different ways they animate the plane crashing into water, take for example birgenair and airasia as two different examples, how realistic are these? Are the physics correct or not at all
*plane not planet 😭
https://youtu.be/hzNovqPom74?si=-tsG8CkSkNbf4UbR
A Boeing 767 could also be seen at the beginning of the video. At the end of the video, the explosion of the Learjet lit up the city.