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Can somebody please pray for me im suicidal
Why does everyone I've seen in an online Adventist community only listen to hymns and Christian music? I listen to mostly indie music and have not once met an Adventist that shares my taste in music.
How did the people writing the Bible know the conversations with satan and God for example in Job? Or other stories like how satan tempted Jesus? Thank you
Hi! I'm one of the admins of a Discord server, the Adventist Young Adult Dating. We would like to invite you in our humble community. We are aiming to bridge the gap around the world, making it easier for adventists to find a suitable life partner. It has been a common sentiment among members that they find it increasingly difficult to connect with adventists in their own church for the fear of being labelled as a creep. This concern is understandable, especially in light of increasing reports of inappropriate behavior, even within church settings.
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What do you think why was there so many similarities between Epic of Gilgamesh worldwide flood or other flood stories with Noah's ark Was the Bible written way after the flood happened so Gilgamesh was written because the story was around? Thank you
Hello. I'm not sure if this is the proper venue for this question but I'm not seeing any pastors for a very long time. I'm curious whether SDAdventists consider those who are not part/members of the church as gentiles or no? If yes, does Romans 2:14 apply?
Hi everybody, there is something from the Bible that new age believers usually use to interpret Bible metaphorically. It's this psalm How can we explain why "you are gods" is being used in this text? Thank you
New International Version Psalm 82 A psalm of Asaph. 1 God presides in the great assembly; he renders judgment among the “gods”: 2 “How long will you[a] defend the unjust and show partiality to the wicked?[b] 3 Defend the weak and the fatherless; uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed. 4 Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked. 5 “The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing. They walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken. 6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’
How is this to not be taken as literally forever as an eternal hell:
*Revelation 20,10: And the devil that decieved them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Please somebody help me understand if you know, thank you
The NAD is hosting an online Sabbath School training conference in 2 weekends, Sept. 12-14. I got an email about it, but since it's open to basically anyone, I figured I'd link it here. (I'm not affiliated with it in any way, unless you count me being a member of the NAD.)
URL: http://oneteamplaybook.org/register/2024-do-it-together-sabbath-school-conference
If you want the list of topics, scroll down a bit. There should be a yellow button with workshop descriptions you can click on. It looks like the training workshops use Zoom, and that you'll have to register at the bottom.
I'm not really sure what to expect from it, but Sabbath School attendance in my area has been down for a while. A lot of classes lean toward reinforcement rather than discussion, and honestly I think people kind of get bored with it sometimes. At least they're trying something, so credit for that.
Do you guys know of any creators who are Adventist? Id like to follow people on Yt Ig etc. that are SDA. not necessarily looking for theological content just someone with similar ideals who happens to be Adventist. do you guys know of anyone of that sort?
Came across this video on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQeSJm2wltQ
Interesting take. It is weird that there's so much divisiveness and that Hollywood is putting out movies like Civil War and apparently this new one I'd never heard of called "God's Not Dead: In God We Trust", and talking about Church/State separation.
Just a coincidence? Or are they trying to push things in this direction?
I know Ellen White talked about a civil war. But Trump is distancing himself from Project 2025, but then if he's really serious about that, why did he pick JD Vance, who has ties to Project 2025?
Ellen said we would have to learn in months what they had spent years learning. Are we truly that close at this point?
We're definitely living in interesting times...
I want to marry in the faith but I’m giving up. I don’t like dating apps because I’ve had a bad experience. I just don’t know what to do.
I just can’t stand the side effects of belief.
Here are a few verses that stay planted in my mind. I can’t believe I tried to convince myself there was any version of these laws that isn’t deplorable.
Deut 22:13-18 - a man marries a woman, but speaks publicly about her not being a virgin. He has to pay the father of the women for the offense. The woman then has to stay with the man who has publicly humiliated her. if the man of the town agree with the husband, they all go out and stone the woman together.
Deut 22: 28-30- if a man rapes a woman who is not engaged then he just has to pay her father and marry her. Only if she is already promised to another man will the rapist be punished.
Deut 21:10-14- go into a land kill everyone, but keep any woman you want. Have sex with her, then, if you decide you’re no longer interested, put her out of your house. But don’t sell her, because you have already “humbled” her.
What a loving god….
I know some of you will quote Original sin, and I just want to tell you right now, that is a non starter. Because what you would be saying is “ alll women deserve to be treated as property, that their bodies are for the profit and use of man for all time because Eve ate a fruit” you’ll just be further proving my point.
Hello! I was invited to a Seventh Day Adventist funeral. I am an Orthodox and never been to an Adventist funeral so I don't have any idea if they are completely different compared to Orthodox funerals. Can you give an even number of flowers (for Orthodox even flowers are for the dead)? Wear black? How is an Adventist funeral going?
Thanks for your answers!
Just to confirm, the 4th beast in Daniel 7, the one that "changes set times and the law" (Daniel 7:25) is believed to be the Catholic Church, right.
I've been doing some studying recently and would like to see how the church viewed the timeline of events and why. A video explaining it would be great.
Anyone have a proper link?
I remember watching a video of Total Onslaught like 10 year ago by Walther Veith and I am not sure in which one it was where he talked about South Africa and the laws that got established and about people getting their bike stolen and their cars being shared and their house also when on vacation. I believe at the end of this video, he was lecturing in German(y) he also pointed out that Germany had this political change coming. Maybe someone could help me find the video. Just a stab in the dark hoping for someone who might maybe give me a hint or maybe even knows in which part he talks about this. I would greatly appreciate it.
Hello SDA brothers and sisters! Have you heard of project 2025? If this ends up coming to fruition, then it seems like the prophecy of the merging of church and state as a signaling of the end times may be happening before our very eyes. Do you think that to be true? Genuinely curious to hear your thoughts.
Edit: Added link!
I found the faith to be what I am looking for.
Only problem I have is that I am currently living with my fiancée and our newborn son before marriage. I didn't care much about religion for a few years and want to get more involved now. From what I have read this seems to be mostly a non-issue other than with membership, disregarding the perceived immorality of cohabitation (we consider ourselves married, just not on paper until November.)
Other churches (caugh usually Calvinists caugh) basically treat me as a monster for even daring to live outside of what they say is correct, and seem to not even want us to attend church in their denominations, so I wanted to see what Adventists usually do/see in this situation. I don't want to bring my family somewhere that treats others poorly for not being perfect essentially, for lack of a better term.
I grew up in both, and I guess I thought I knew, but upon recent inspection I realized that I actually didn't. It's been a very long time and I've forgotten a lot of details. Full disclosure, I have not considered myself a Christian in a little over a decade so please disregard my post if it's not allowed here. Thank you so much.
I’m interested in a discussion here, because the vegetarian/vegans in my church simply won’t discuss it. Everyone points to the quail incident to say we should not be eating meat. But by that logic, since Adam and Eve ate of the fruit, we shouldn’t eat fruit? Since Moses struck the rock, we shouldn’t drink water? Quail was the first food God provided the Israelites in the wilderness. Then later when they complained that they wished they hadn’t left Egypt and God sent the second round of quail, *that is when they were punished. Priests were to eat meat. Families were to eat a portion of their offerings. And as soon as the Israelites entered the promised land, God said eat as much meat as your heart desires. Kill and eat. Why? Why did Jesus eat so much fish if the body is a temple and EGW says that polluting the body with such things is a sin? Where in the Bible supports the Adventist claim that God doesn’t want us to eat meat, even the latter days?
With all the press from the Blue Zones studies, many of us non-Adventists have become increasingly interested in how Seventh Day Adventists lead extraordinarily healthy lives in the modern world. Despite access to the same indulgences and not all living in walkable cities, you are some of the healthiest and longest lived people in America. God bless you. We are very impressed.
I was curious to know what meals and recipes are common in your communities, particularly those of you who do subscribe to dietary rules, such as kosher, pescatarian, vegetarian, or vegan. What are the staples? What is common? And what are your favorites?
Is our purpose solely to serve God, or did God give us this life to enjoy it? (And if so, wouldn’t this mean the sole purpose of this life is a trial to see whether we choose God or sin? Since the happiness and joy in this life is almost nothing compared with the joy and happiness of eternal life with Jesus)
Shabbat Shalom brothers and sisters in Christ!
Keeping in mind the second Commandment "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them."
Would you qualify wearing this shirt as sinful? Some will say it's a conversation starter and medium to preach the gospel, some that it simply goes again God's words, even if no prayers or worship are made to the shirt — it's sole existence is wrong.
Through discernment and conviction of the Holy Spirit, what do you say? Let's have a edifying discussion.
I've been looking to settle down now for a bit. I know I want to be with someone who shares our beliefs but I'm struggling with the method. I don't want to have a reputation of being a player for getting to know different women at church and additionally, it doesn't feel terribly appropriate to approach women in church either. I've tried dating apps but filtering for SDA women is virtually impossible. Obviously, this is something I'm praying about and I would gladly take some wise counsel about what works especially in this modern dating climate. Do I open myself up to dating other denominations? Do I ask my friends to set me up? What's an appropriate circumstance to approach a sister in Christ?
I've been thinking more about what I believe and how that impacts me over the past year or two, and I've come to disagree on a few things within Adventism, specifically a couple of the 28 SDA beliefs and what some leaders promote. As someone under the LGBTQ umbrella, I find it hard to support a church that has supported so much harm to those like me. I don't agree with how exclusive most Adventists seem to be, assuming that anyone who goes to church on Sunday is doomed.
For a bit of context, some people I grew up with in the church were very strict, following a few Evangelical televangelists that promoted a lot of legalism and extreme purity culture, ranging from modest dress, to saying everyone on the radio sold their soul to the devil, and all sorts of weird theories. At the time it got into some of the more conspiracy theory leaning stuff, I was old enough to understand that it was just someone making money off of people's fears. And while the man on the DVDs wasn't Adventist, it was an Adventist pastor who had "viewing parties" of a few of these, and invited a lot of people from his church.
Fast forward a few years, we get a different pastor who was extremely homophobic and gets a gay man kicked out of church for bringing his boyfriend to church while holding a church office. It caused an extreme divide that church attendance would be significantly lower when the pastor was preaching compared to when an elder was preaching, and some refused to attend for a long time. After seeing a similar situation happen in Colorado recently makes me worry that there's no hope for the church. That there's just going to be issue after issue, and the church getting more strict on who they allow in. And how does one stay with that? Currently it's because I have jobs in my church, I like the current pastor, and I believe most things (about 18-19 of the 28). I'm not sure if that's enough reason, or if I should look elsewhere. At the same time, I haven't found anything much better.
Peace of Christ my brothers and sisters in Faith. About a couple of hours ago, I received a warning from a father figure where I currently reside.
We were watching a sermon on YT and came to the point where the speaker mentioned the Spirit of Prophecy (Ellen Whites writings). My brother loves to give commentaries about how the prophecy is really important for present times. I understand that God uses whomever he wants to speak to His People. I’m currently trying to read and finish her writings, especially TDoA and TGC, but I still have a few things that I need to verify with the help of the Holy Spirit.
Few minutes before sunset he started saying that if I don’t accept Ellen white as a prophet and that her writings are divinely inspired by the Holy Spirit, I’m committing the unforgivable sin, because they’ve been talking about the subject a few times already. They say that I need to humble myself and ask God for forgiveness for doubting, and all of this was said with a high, rebuking tone of voice. I remained silent and just agreed to read more of her but then he says that I need to be One with Christ before reading. I know Jesus prays to The Father for us to be One with Him as He was One with the a Father. I humbled myself and left silently to work after sunset.
Those words, “You will lose your salvation” “Unforgivable sin” keep resounding in my head and I know for sure I won’t be at peace until God knows when.
I fear for my salvation and the unforgivable sin among with Jesus’s words, “I don’t know you”. Are my #1 worst fears to hear and I fear myself also for not making the right decision. I fear the day that my heart (conscience) grows cold enough to the point where I don’t get a sensation of fear in my soul whenever it is mentioned that I will lose my salvation.
I left to work wondering and wondering and I noticed that I worked in a monotone with all my customers. Just being emotionless for the whole shift.
I thank and praise God for saving me from the pits of eternal death when I lived in the “world”. Just enjoying the worldly nightlife, smoking marijuana, lusting over women and watch in adult content (this right here was my weakness), not being thankful to my parents nor with what I had and always coveting for more things. I look back at that life, makes me sick thinking how I could be given a chance of redemption, but here I am.
Praise my Lord and Saviour Jesus The Christ for saving working through me with the power of the Holy Spirit for I yearn for His Return.
I was once baptized at an evangelical church in Mexico. Years later, I moved with the elederly couple of the SDA faith and shared with them my faith as a Christian in the evangelical denomination (I admit though by the way I was living I was a lukewarm C). They showed me how it was wrong to worship on Sunday and gave me a history lesson of how the sabbath was changed to Sunday worship. Long story short, after living my last few months in the world, an incident made me rethink my way of life and asked them if they could pray for me and then a few months later I was rebaptized with the SDA faith knowing the truth of the Sabbath and how it is still an active commandment for God’s people.
However, I fear that the brother who baptized me (the same one I’m talking about) also expected me to accept EGW as a prophet at the baptism.
It’s difficult for me to understand why EGW claims that she isn’t a prophetess yet again states that her writings are divinely inspired and that rejecting her messages is rejecting God Himself, something I fear to do. Then again I read many accounts of her plagiarizing works of others authors and counting them as messages from The Most High. How she gives accounts of Jesus’s life in the DoA book when I honestly don’t know if she was revealed Jesus’s life in a spam of God knows how during her vision episodes. I really don’t want to fall into lies. 99% truth with 1% lie is still a whole lie.
I know for sure that I have a limited understating of how God works in human kind and I won’t argue who He uses. I am nothing but a sinner that was made from dirt with a purpose. For God nothing is impossible (except tolerate sin, that is impossible). Our battle is with the unseen and, especially, with ourselves.
I’m very sorry if I made this long and a little bit unclear. I am blessed to take everything to God in prayer with a humble and thankful heart, but after hearing what my brother said to me in a serious tone, I wonder that if all this time ever time I kneel and prayed to my Heavenly Father my prayers were an abomination/insult to him for not fully accepting EGW as prophetess and put her writings at the same level as the Bible.
Please pray for me, pray for my brother in faith. Pray for those who are being persecuted in the world due to His Name.
Please…