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You can’t say rocket or red arrow or Zatanna

I don’t remember it being soooooooooo off nothing is wrong but with the introduction of halo and this weird/good intro of human trafficking being added to the story idk what to complain about it’s just odd the whole season And the introduction of maybe the worse character ever PrInCe BrIoN. Fred bugg with two g’s is the best addition

I've made a list of everyone (I think) in the show who is a non-meta enhanced fighter. These are all characters that we've seen in action at least to some degree:

• Arrowette
• Batgirl (pre-paralysis)
• Batman
• Cassandra Savage*
• Cheshire
• Deathstroke**
• Green Arrow
• Katana
• Lady Shiva
• Nightwing
• Onyx
• Orphan
• Red Arrow
• Robin (Tim Drake)
• Sensei
• Spoiler
• Sportsmaster
• Tigress
• Ubu

(*As a direct daughter of Vandal Savage, Cassandra may actually have a metagene but that hasn't been shown as of the end of S4.)

(**The comics version of Deathstroke has enhanced abilities but as far as I'm aware, that isn't established canon in the YJ universe.)

(There are two other characters that I went back and forth on whether to include: Arsenal and Black Canary. Roy obviously has enhancements and Dinah is a metahuman so they aren't exactly on the same playing field as the other characters listed here. But they both primarily operate as hand-to-hand combatants so people may want to discuss them too.)

I'd like to have an open-ended discussion about them if possible. Some questions that come to mind:

• Who is the best fighter or group of fighters among them?

• Who is the least talented fighter?

• Who has the greatest untapped potential?

• Which matchup that we have not seen would you be most interested in seeing?

• Which character(s) would you most like to see further developed?

I'm also interested in any other conversations that come to people's minds.

I know from season 1 Roy was shown as a better archer but Artemis was trained by Sportsmaster alongside Cheshire who constantly beats the Roy. Aside from Robin Artemis is the best fighter in the group

My sketch is on the right btw, will forever be annoyed they removed his side burns from S2 (and his tooth gap and funky eyebrows).

Hi, everybody. I just want to give a little heads up, this is my very first Reddit post, so please be careful about what you write about this post. If you disagree with me on anything, please do so in a respectful manner. I just wanted to get that out of the way.

I AM ONLY COVERING SEASON 1 HERE. SEASON 2 WILL BE NEXT.

So, I have been a fan of Young Justice since it was on Cartoon Network. In my opinion, it was always one of the better DC animated shows after the DCAU ended. However, even before they royally screwed up with the Season 3 & 4 revival, there were still some things I didn't like. I mean, do you ever get that feeling after a rewatch of one of your favorite shows, you can't help but focus on the flaws you may have missed when you were younger? Well, that happens to me whenever I rewatch a show I like that I haven't seen in a while. I know the standard advice, just be a fan and enjoy the show. But this is my post, so please hear me out. OK, let's start.

My favorite parts

Robin's quirks, back-formations and relationship with Zatanna- Robin is one of my favorite superheroes, and one of the many things I liked about him is that he wasn't a total obsessive jerk to his friends or a junior version of Batman like on Teen Titans. Here, especially in Season 1, he was the kind of snarky nice guy that made Dick Grayson who he was. Whether it was echoing laugh to taunt his opponents, or casually showing off that he's the most experienced of the Young Justice team, or creating new words like "whelmed" or "out-filtrated," Robin was a prime source of my love for this show. It was also somewhat amplified by his more comic-accurate personality and, while I am also personally split on this, his young age. Also, I love his relationship with Zatanna, because here it was original and fresh, and I knew they were made for each other the instant she said "Be as chalant as you like." to Robin. I hate the writer for splitting them up before Season 2. Honestly, I never really liked Robin and Starfire's pairing on Teen Titans, I just couldn't get into it. I can't get enough of Robin.

The inclusion of Artemis, Superboy and Miss Martian - I don't really care much for the former's relationship with Wally or the latter two's relationship drama, but I do like that all three characters were included here. While I hate that Superboy doesn't have all of Superman's powers here, and the ones he actually has are only half as strong as Superman, Conner still makes for an interesting character, even if Superman is largely ignoring him. Miss Martian had a rather unfair reputation for being created because Supergirl couldn't be used in a Teen Titans comic (which I personally found stupid), but here she actually showed her own personality, from her telepathy to her insecurity as a White Martian, she was able to be her own character. And finally, Artemis was more than an Arrowette stand-in for me. She was this snarky, no-nonsense girl who wouldn't take crap from anyone, be it Wally or Red Arrow, and she never hesitated to put Kid Flash in his place or deflate his massive ego, and I really felt for her because of her backstory, and I loved her and Robin's special and underrated relationship, especially after "Homefront."

Batman's "Adaptational Nice Guy" status and warmer personality - It goes without saying that Batman isn't exactly known for being warm and fuzzy, or trusting or... well, the list goes on. And while he has done some terrible things in the comics, he usually did them out of a form of justified paranoia or facts that weren't entirely unfounded. But here, he actually manages to not only be a great father to Dick, but a patient mentor for the rest of the Team. For instance, when he accidentally makes Dick feel jealous in "Downtime", he plays one-on-one basketball to assure him he'll never replace him and doesn't prefer Kaldur over him. And when the Team manages to do good, he'll always praise them and outright felt guilt for the failed mental training exercise in "Failsafe." I actually hated when they made his character go back to his "the mission is all that matters" mindset that Dick and I always hated about him. It's also the one quality I hated about the DCAU's Batman, pushing away his love ones for the sake of being Batman.

Black Canary - Need I say more? Black Canary is one of my favorite DC Comics characters, and for good reason. She's attractive, prefers to only use her Canary Cry as a last resort, and always uses hand-to-hand combat as he go-to method for defeating super-villains. All the same reasons I like her in Justice League Unlimited. While I like Morena Baccarin's voice better, Vanessa Marshall does a great job at showing Canary's strict yet motherly approach when trying to wrangle a bunch of teenage superheroes, and I actually do like that she's a therapist here, because she can help the Team with their mental trauma.

What I didn't like or found overrated

Kaldur being the leader and his character for the most part - Alright, I know this isn't gonna earn me a lot of fans, but that's not why I am writing this. So, ever since he became Team leader, I've had a problem with Kaldur. For the first few episodes, I didn't care for him very much, but I tolerated him. He was just so... BORING. Like stale butter on piece of untoasted bread. His speech pattern, while impressive given his use of lengthy words, is way too formal, and even in Atlantis, some Atlanteans could be heard speaking in contractions. As I stated before, I am rather split on Robin being the youngest here, and one way I didn't like it is because they used that and gave Dick's rightful spot as the Team's leader, (which is always a Dick Grayson role, because he's pretty much the greatest leader in the DCU), to Kaldur, a total newb in the DC Comics mythos who was created for THIS show, and by the time he was created, Dick Grayson, who was created in 1940, already had 70 years of seniority on him. All in all, Kaldur was never one of my favorites.

Kid Flash's behavior most of the time - Like I said before, not writing this to make fans. Alright, I actually like Wally West in the DCAU and the Teen Titans show, if only because he was less... insufferable in those shows. Here, a lot of things about Wally, I don't like. First of all, his attitude to Artemis when they first met really pissed me off. Yeah, I get she wasn't exactly a ball of sunshine herself, but Wally wasn't even the least bit inclined to give her a chance when they met, being angry at her for taking Roy's place, when he said he didn't want to join the Team, and insulted Wally and his friends. Next, there's his "flirting" with M'Gann, if you could even call it that. After a while, his attempts to hit on her become really annoying and you just want to smack him upside the head to make him stop. Also, if you at her face or listen to her tone, you can tell she feels uncomfortable and unimpressed, but she's too polite to tell him to stop. And the only reason he did stop isn't because he realized all this, but because had to tell him about her and Conner's relationship. On top of that, his dislike of magic and refusal to acknowledge it even after he almost got the rest of the Team fried and him being slower than Barry here didn't endear him to me either.

Unnecessary character behaviors, changes and additions - One of the things I hated the most about the first season was Superman's treatment of Superboy. I understand that he got cloned without his knowledge or permission, but after a while, it was just ridiculous. Conner never asked to be made, he just WAS. Then at the very end of the season, he gives Conner the bare minimum, a short thank you for saving him, and that's it, like it's supposed to make up for a season of ignoring Conner for being born. If it were me, he would've gotten over himself by "Schooled" or would have accepted Conner at the beginning. Red Arrow's attitude (and don't give me the Cadmus programming thing) was similarly what pissed me off. He spent the whole season acting like a jerk to the main six, including his three friends, and constantly bitches about how he wants respect despite never giving respect in return. Aquaman rightfully called him "uncooperative and disrespectful" and saying that by rewarding that behavior by letting him into the League would set a bad example for the rest of the Team, and what do they do? Let him into the League anyway, and look how well that turned out for them. After all the complaining he did, I couldn't even feel bad for him after he found out he was a clone. Rocket and Icon barely appeared in the first season, and they were both last minute additions to the Team and League anyway, so I don't like either of them all too much. I hated how certain members of the League I liked in the DCAU and other incarnations were shunted off to the side, such as Hal Jordan, Hawkman, and Hawkwoman.

Greg Weisman watering down powers - Superboy having only some of Superman's powers and the one he does have are half strength at best, M'Gann not having super strength like in the comics, Wally being slow by Flash standards, Kryptonians not being able to breathe in space and not having arctic breath like how I think they should, hated it all.

Rating Scale: 9.5/10 Despite all of my dislikes, I still loved the first season and I feel like my love for the season triumphs over what I feel are the overrated qualities of the show.

Favorite characters: Robin, Black Canary, Zatanna, Batman, Artemis, Green Arrow, Superboy, and Miss Martian

Favorite episodes: "Independence Day/Fireworks", "Infiltrator", "Homefront", "Alpha Male", "Revelation", "Failsafe", "Coldhearted", "Agendas", "Performance", "Usual Suspects", and "Auld Acquaintance".

Like I said before, if you want to disagree with me on anything, please do so in a respectful manner, especially because this is my first Reddit post and like everyone else, I am entitled to my opinion.

I hate you all every writer every person who watched the show cause no one could save my boy the wall man and now he’s dead for the fifth time and due to my memory issues it’s almost like watching it for the second time every time and none of you saved him so now all I have to say is “Artemis is soooo going to kill me”

I just noticed that the capital city of Mars in Young Justice is named Ma'aleca'andra, which is a clear call out to C. S. Lewis (of Narnia fame). "In the first novel of C.S. Lewis's classic science fiction trilogy, Dr Ransom, a Cambridge academic, is abducted and taken on a spaceship to the red planet of Malacandra, which he knows as Mars." What do you all think?

I’m just getting into DC content more, and i’m partially through s3 of Young Justice (love it so far). but i feel like im always missing information. There’s always new characters I don’t know and I’ve kinda gotten used to that but there’s other things that really confuse me. Like Barbara suddenly being in a wheelchair, Kaldur becoming Aquaman and running the league, Jim Harper becoming the Guardian (I thought Mal was the Guardian? not that I ever knew who he was anyway), among other things.

There’s so many characters I get it’d be impossible to show all their backstories and development. But i just feel like Im missing info so often and it’s really bothersome. So Im wondering if I was supposed to read the comics first or if there was a series that went along with Young Justice, or something else to fill in the blanks? Or is this just how it is and I need to look up any questions I have? thank u in advance for any thoughts 🙏

Scarab continues to attack force bubble to strengthen it as he had already done his analysis of it.

Scarab tells Jaime that it too is grateful to be free from the reach.

Scarab wastes time in killing his friends.

Scarab wastes time explaining the force bubble it was constrained in.

Comon james gunn

Season 1 and 2 had points and flow that lead to an incredible season finale, the team saving the league! The team saving the world and beating the reach from the shadows. Season 3-4 both just feel like set up for a bunch of various story lines. To name the biggest ones I picked out:

• They set up Batman Inc and the return of Jason Todd
• the teen titans/outsiders being formed
• the original YJ team reuniting and Wally being trapped in the speed force
• darkseid and the anti life equation
• the suicide squad

Both seasons had endings but to me none of them felt as complete as in season 1 and 2 they seemed more like ends of chapters vs end of story. I am disappointed we’re never going to see it play out and see them finish the story but hey that’s tv. Hopefully if we all keep watching, rewatching eventually they’ll resume the project. #staywelmed

I will start off with the fact I am both lgbtq and autistic, but I believe that Young Justice did a terrible job with these characters. They had halo cheating when they were bi, which is a terrible stereotype, and season 4 threw us a slew of different lgbtq characters without delving into any of them. We also had characters whose beliefs conflicted with their abilities, and it feels really offensive to compare an autistic child to someone who is basically half demon.

I am not angry that they are attempting to represent more people; rather, I am angry that they are not writing them well this is not how they handled introducing straight characters.

Just periodically checking in as we all wait by the fire for news, last time I waited 6 years, 4 more to go…