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This is a subreddit dedicated to the Marvel Comic book series Young Avengers created by writer Allan Heinberg and artist Jim Cheung. The series is also known for its relaunch under writer Kieron Gillen and artist Jamie McKelvie.
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This is a subreddit dedicated to the Marvel Comic book series Young Avengers created by writer Allan Heinberg and artist Jim Cheung. The series is also known for its relaunch under writer Kieron Gillen and artist Jamie McKelvie.
Feel free to discuss the comics and the characters, as well as theories and ideas about what could happen in the future.
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I’m having the hardest time finding the comic where it shows a little bit of their back stories, I remember Billy shocks the bully at school with his powers, and Teddy and his friend break in somewhere using his shape shifting powers. I think there was a story about Eli too?
Reading King in Black- Wiccan and Hulkling and got to this part. Is Billy alluding to the fact that he would like, die if he depleted his magic tank?
Okay the title is an exageration but still: Does no one, like no one, care about Jonas?
Like, let's rewind a little bit: Jonas is the armor of Iron Lad, based of Vision's designs and with Nathaniel Richards' brain patterns. Yes the guy isn't technically a founding member but he was there early on and even joined the team before Jonas. Him and Cassie developed a relationship, mostly due to Jonas having Nate's brain patterns and Cassie having an atraction to Nate, but it is made clear that Jonas is his own person aside from having Nate's brain patterns, like how the original Vision had Wonder Man's brain patterns, Ultron had Hank Pym's, Jocasta had Janet's or Alkhema had Mockingbird's, but all of them were different people, so their relationship went beyond that. Jonas was escencially a core Young Avenger during all of the 2000s, being the one and only Vision. That is, of course, until the Children's Crusade.
In the book, Iron Lad comes back for the first time since the team's first story-arc, and Cassie is eager to see him due to their past together, which brings a bit of conflict between the two, But out of nowhere, Cassie is killed by Dr. Doom, which infuriates Iron Lad. While he tries to go back to the past to save her, Jonas tries to reason with him, but the only thing he manages to get is his anger, being killed by the guy he was based off in front of everyone, and only after doing that he gets convinced to not bring back Cassie.
If his death was not humilliating enough, then the treatment it gets is. First of all, Iron Lad is not, and never will be in future stories, held responsible for the murder of Jonas, he's not treated as a killer at all. But worse is the behaviour of his "friends", the Young Avengers, who despite having the opportunity to try and bring him back, decide not to because "he'd be sad living without Cassie" (Tommy being the only one to protest against this).
Years later, Cassie would be brought back, but since the original Vision came back, people seem to forget Jonas ever existed. And this is both writers but also the fandom.
The fandom treats Iron Lad like some sort of saint while ignoring Jonas' ass off every time they can. There are exceptions but the difference is abbysmal, and when people say Eli or Tommy are "forgotten by the fandom" I can't help but laugh.
Anyways, I'm sure some people will say that this is due to Jonas not being distinguishible enough from the original Vision, but that's bullshit. They are different characters, and even if the similarities are to many to make them distinguishable, you should be able to bring him back and give him a new codname or appearence, but his fate is horrible. And no one seems to notice.
Interested in reading more about Speed and Prodigy together! Can anyone tell me what comics to read?
Who are you hoping to see as Tommy and Teddy down the road in the MCU? I can’t wait to see them on screen, hopefully soon as it seems they are heading that direction!
As it's said children of Nexus Beings are so powerful they surpass their parents at some point, this was already proven with Wiccan and him being so powerful where one day he will surpass Wanda.
But what about Tommy? He's also a child of a nexus being so that would mean he has powers he doesn't know exist yet, a power so strong it will eventually be above Wanda's power. We've only seen this expanded on Billy but never on Tommy.
Also since Billy and Tommy are starting to get more attraction due to the MCU, most likely Marvel will make comics on them to market the twins before their next appearance so they might actually be also focusing on Tommy more.
Rereading Young Avengers presents #1 and in a line of dialogue Eli says that him and Kate met Bucky Barnes “last Christmas”. I’m just wondering if this is referring to a specific story or just something that happened off-panel and is for ourselves to imagine.
We finally got a clear answer on how the twins came back to life in new bodies, with ages that would make Wanda a teenager when she had them.
Spoilers for Agatha All Along
The twins died, reincarnated inside random recently deceased teenagers' bodies and took over their lives (Which is kinda messed up) with 0 memories of what their lives were like inside Westview.
So any one think they'll eventually take this explanation and adapt to the comics? I mean we've been dying to have an explanation on this and the MCU gave as an explanation on how they came to be.
I won't be surprised if a new comic between Billy and Tommy gets announced and the comic explanation about the twins is the exact same reason in the MCU. I honestly hope we do get a Billy and Tommy comic, I want those two to interact more like brothers.
• Kate Bishop / Hawkeye • Kamala Khan / Ms Marvel • Cassie Lang / Stature / Stinger •Billy Kaplan / Wiccan • Teddy Altman (Dorrek VIII - Dorrek-Vell) / Hulkling • Tommy Shepard/ Speed • Eli Bradley / Patriot • America Chavez/ Miss America • Riri Williams / Ironheart • Prince T'Challa II/ Black Panther II • Skarr • Loki Laufeyson / Kid Loki •Jonas / Vision • Love Thorsdottir / Love • Miles Morales / Spider-Man • Vivian Vision • Astrid Heimdallson / Axl • Phyla-Vell / Martyr • Morgan Stark / Iron Woman •Harley Keener / Iron Lad • David Alleyne / Prodigy • Noah-Var / Marvel Boy •Franklin Richards / Powerhouse •Valeria Richards / Brainstorm
Ok so please don’t come for me when I say this but I think the the young avengers origin is somewhat ruined first off I’m gonna start with how the team I think that they only added ms marvel bc she is a teenager and I can accept some changes like there isn’t gonna be a iron lad so they replace it with iron heart but Ms marvel was never in the young avengers to begin with and that’s something that urkes me so bad and don’t get me wrong I’ll still watch it but her and the fact that it seems like they might never introduce hulkling when he was a original member just pisses me all the way off