So they put Monica on a road in the middle of nowhere with a busted vehicle and what? HOPE that whoever stops to help her is the killer?

And how did they know where to stage? Killer could have turned off onto any one of hundreds of desert roads but they just happen to pick the exact area? Even if they used the location of where they found the missing girl's body, there's no guarantee he would use the same dumpsite. Moreover, Moe and his officers would have scouted the area ahead of time in order to stage the ambush, so wouldn't they have discovered all of those bodies laying around before monica and the killer even got there?

And how did the killer NOT see all of those squad cars and horses? That was miles of flat terrain so I can't image where they could have been hiding.

And Moe was already set up, waiting in the prone position with his rifle, so how would he know exactly where the killer would stop and where Monica would run to be in the right range to take the shot?

Was a cool scene but so many questions lol....

The Native Americans seem like good and reasonable people, so why do they take measures like stealing cattle on the risk of people getting killed over it. They could avoid a confrontation by just raising their own. Or am I missing something?

Both Beth and Carter have had a hard life. When she brought him home to Rip and told.him she thinks he's their kid I was so happy. I thought here's something that can help Beth heal further. No not their biological child but much like Rip wanted to be Johns son Carter wants to be Beth's. And when he called her Mama and her response was to tell him l, "Your mom died. You don't get another one. " Was cruel and unessisary. That's the role she's basically filling, more or less she adopted him. I'm not saying that Carter wasn't a bit ungrateful but she is basically treating Carter how she treated Rip when they were younger.

When you google Dutton Family Tree you get conflicting ones. Note: I have not finished 1923 so I don't know if there's anything confirmed officially. But in some Spencer is the father of John II, in some it's Jack. Is there a canonical tree?

Hi there! Recently ive been looking for a new Western series to watch and I have come to the conclusion that yellowstone might actually be a good one. But before i spend any money on this,I would like your thoughts.

I love westerns and Neo-Western. My favorite Western show is Justified and I just finished that.

Just read that Yellowstone has been renewed for unknown seasons and won't end as planned. Costner and Sheridan found some sort of common ground, the article wouldn't specify which and the show will therefore continue. Have anyone else heard something?

Look, I LOVE the show - even the messy parts (here’s looking at you season 4 and 5 with your incredible nonsense), and I love some fun Beth scenes and memes, but I’m binging it (a good binge gives different perspectives), and just finished season 1, episode 5 and holy moly …

How could John not try and get his daughter some help? At least offer some comfort?

Listening to her screaming from emotional pain in the last scene and to not want to relieve it at all? Because he needs her “evil”? That’s just pitiful.

I still love the show, but rewatching that scene was a lot.

If he’d written it where Beth and Jamie still hate each other, but it wasn’t so intense, they could be a serious force and save the damned ranch!

This may rank as my #1 episode in the entire series. The right combination of story and visuals.

I'm a first time watcher and don't want to give too many spoilers in the heading, but I'm willing to explain my indifferences with the ending of Season 2 in the comments, if needed

It wasn't anything horrible and still a decent wrap up to the season, but it felt like it needed a bit more spice.

The Beck Brothers were just getting started, but to have come and gone so quickly feels like wasted potential of characters. All season was a massive build up, but the final episode was summed in what seemed like a day, their time

Lots of ups and downs, and a wonderful emotional pull for Rip, but the battle in the field was just.... weird? Anyone else?

1. They’re both politicians. Cliff ran for Senate. Jamie ran for Governor. Bobby became Senator and John became Governor which humiliated Cliff and Jamie.

2. Cliff and Jamie started out as “good guys” who were pushed past their breaking point (over and over and over) and ended up as “bad guys”.

3. Cliff and Jamie did everything out of loyalty to their fathers. Cliff wanted justice for Digger and Jamie wanted John’s approval.

4. Cliff and Jamie both arranged illegal abortions which had devastating repercussions. Cliff’s girlfriend died from complications and Beth was sterilized.

5. Cliff and Jamie both grew up without a mother. Cliff’s mother abandoned him and Jamie’s mother died.

6. Cliff and Jamie both had short-term relationships that resulted in the birth of their only child. Cliff had a relationship with Afton and she gave birth to his daughter Pamela (named after his sister). Jamie had a relationship with Christina and she gave birth to his son Jamie (named after him). Cliff and Jamie haven’t played a big role in their children’s life.

7. Cliff and Jamie both have someone who enjoys making their life miserable. J.R. and Beth.

…there are so many other similarities. I chose major plotlines as examples. And while this isn’t something Cliff and Jamie have in common, coincidentally, Cliff’s wife was named Jamie lol.

"I was watching Yellowstone and fell in love with Rip's glasses. Does anyone know the brand and model?"

An opinion based only on first 3 seasons.

I would argue that Jamie Dutton is a character more sinned against than sinning.

Adopted into the Dutton family, he was chosen by John Dutton to leave the family homestead, to follow a profession he didn’t want. Why? John needed a lawyer to protect his interests and didn’t want to send one of his natural children. Supposition: John Dutton wouldn’t allow someone outside his bloodline to own part of his family ranch and his intention was always to cut Jamie out of the family.

Having fulfilled his father’s wishes and becoming an excellent lawyer, he continued to be instructed and controlled by his father, who directs and schemes with no consideration for what Jamie wants and when Jamie stands up for himself his father bullies and beats him, pushing him out for good.

Even after this, Jamie refuses to act against his family and returns to the fold to be ridiculed and shamed and treated as the low man on his own family ranch. He kills a journalist, which unforgivable, but the motive was to prevent a damning story being released (granted there are self interests here) which would damage the Duttons.

After numerous minor slights to keep him down, Jamie is again elevated to a key position to help his family and when he acts in their best interest to sell the ranch for $500m, based on sound analysis, he is again publicly embarrassed by his adopted father (no hello or goodbye 🙄) and then accused of conspiring to have them all murdered.

Yes, he committed the sin of depriving Beth of the ability to have children, but he was little more than a child himself, was not yet educated or experienced on how to handle such a complex and sensitive situation. However much of this hate and abuse came from John Dutton before he learned about the part he played in Beth’s life.

Am I wide of the mark?

I started Yellowstone after a friend recommended it about a year ago. Over the last few weeks I’ve worked my way through 3 seasons and having hit s4 ep2 I find myself watching it now just to see how ridiculous it gets.

Season 1 and 2 were pretty good, but not without their own pointless subplots. Season 3 was so uneven, overly long and contained some of the worst writing ever. Season 4 has started with more melodrama, a 14 year old kid delivering a Shakespearian monologue to his dying father and RIP killing last seasons main protagonist with a rattlesnake. I’m half expecting John Dutton to wake up, find his wife in the shower, and realise it’s all a dream (this show is Dallas with guns and angst).

So to save me wasting time, does season 4 get better? Or is it at least so bad it’s good? Does the writing get better? Are there standout episodes?

"Forrie J. Smith has been grounded.

The Yellowstone actor known for playing veteran ranch hand Lloyd Pierce on the hit Western series said in an Instagram post Sunday that he was kicked off a plane for complaining about a masked passenger.

In a self-filmed video accompanied by the caption "You need to hear this story," Smith, 65, said he "just got kicked off a plane" in Houston "because I told them I didn't feel comfortable sitting next to somebody with a mask on."

More: https://ew.com/yellowstone-forrie-j-smith-kicked-off-plane-complaining-about-masked-passenger-8620024

Pure stupidity. This isn't the first stupid, hateful jackass to be associated with this show, and I doubt he'll be the last.

Just noticed that between "That's gonna go over like a fart in church" and "I got $20 on Texas," Laramie mouths "Oh, Fuuuccck."

LOL

Hi everyone! Don't get me wrong I really like this show, season 3 was so nice with more just life on the farm things and a different vibe but I can't stand the writing anymore. I'm looking for shows like Yellowstone. Great nature shots, action and interesting characters, but actually with good writing and plots.

I love The Wire, Sopranos, Deadwood.

Seems to me when your state agency is involved in multiple mass shootings, with semiautomatic pistols and rifles, one agent using a fully automatic rifle, then the DOJ is going to want to take a peek under the hood of this Wild Wild West. Let’s not forget treaspassing claiming “I don’t need no fucking warrant”, kidnapping, locking citizens up under a cattle grate. They butt heads with a lot of rich assholes. But the thing about rich asshole is they tend to be a litigious bunch of bastards and sue for sport.

Hell, Sons of Anarchy seems more plausible at this point.

ETA: F Monica. She’s boring.

Let me preface this by saying, I do love the show with all its flaws because of the scenery, the horses, the music, the action, and the tones.

BUT…. Realistically who would be in jail in real life at this point? It seems as if some deaths are too obvious to not pin on the Duttons. Some characters that die seem to be big business people with many people around them but as soon as they die no one bothers to investigate.

I get it!!! This is an escape from reality and that’s why we watch the show but the show is rooted in real life and the reality of real world laws and systems of government. Just feels like some characters really matter until they die and then everything just disappears.

So, we're rewatching the episode when the girls get kicked out of the bunkhouse. Rip hands Laramie a check, and gives her Mia's, then he cashes out Teeter.

In a later ep, Teeter shows John the Brand, and says WTF, take me back. John says to Rip, why didn't you tell me? And Rip says in all the confusion, he didn't have time to tell him.

But, in this ep, Rip says to John, "Even Teeter? She's a good hand." Rip should have said, "Even Teeter? She wears the brand."

Just a weird mis-write, I guess.

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