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I bought a Pimax crystal light and it’s been a solid product I’ve had a great time with it. Very good lenses and bright vibrant colors and contrast in dark scenery. $900 sounds like a lot but it’s cheaper than many other options we’ve had so it kinda is the best option as a WMR Replacement but many people probably would rather buy a psvr2 with fresnel lenses and mura.
Other than quality control why else would you wanna avoid pimax?
Pimax makes brilliant hardware with fantastic visuals and colors for the price.
Once they get QC together they could succeed and have pcvr potential.
Hopefully in the future Reddit stops doubting this company because I’m quite eager to buy even more hardware from Pimax in the future. It’s excellent
From what I can tell it seems like the only option as of right now to utilize WindowsMR is to either keep an install of Windows 10 or stay away from 24H2 on W11. This feels like a band aid solution to me and I wish we had more concrete solutions to keeping this platform alive. My hope is that someone someday will release some awesome github project that essentially revives these HMDs and keep them out of the ewaste bin. I have no experience in coding/ software development whatsoever so unfortunately, it's not going to be me (unless I find some free time to start educating myself). I want my 1st Gen HP to live on!
Sorry if this was a bit of a pointless post, just wanted to rant, I guess.
I am currently trying to fix my hp reverb g2 headset that I bought a few years back. It stopped functioning properly around a year or 2 ago. It would constantly disconnect so I bought new usb c to hdmi connectors. All with the proper data transfer speeds and again nothing. So I assumed it was my old pc's ports that were not working (again I tried every port I had). I have recently gotten a big pc overhaul upgrading 90% of my components and I was hoping to play vr again. So I try to connect the headset and the same problems as before. I believe that it is the usb c that comes with the headset that is not functioning properly. I don't want to spend a couple hundred dollars on a new headset so is it possibly to replace just that part? any help would be great. Btw i have everything updated to its newest version to my knowledge.
I have a Quest 3. In this instance, I am using the original Stalker: Call of Pripyat as example, but you can insert any old game title here.
I like playing these games in SBS 3D.
The game runs smoothly on my monitor. In my Quest, it's laggy to the point of being unusable.
I am using ALVR via USB, latency is ~50ms and all the various performance stats are reporting 120fps.
Yet, all mouse input and the game itself is super laggy in my headset, while being completely smooth on my monitor.
I had assumed that once you connect your headset via a nearly gigabit connection at 50ms hard-wired, the image from your monitor should be equally as smooth as what you see in your Quest.
Does anyone have any idea why there's so much lag? What is happening between my desktop monitor showing a game vs ALVR showing it over the USB connection?
(HL:Alyx is fine over USB and wireless. Any other remote desktop app, like video playing etc. is also fine. I really don't think it has anything to do with that. There has to be another issue, but I'm lost.)
Edit: I should mention I am doing this on a mobile 3070ti (so NVENC should work) paired with a 12800HX. That should provide a reasonable amount of resources. I am wondering if it's a vsync thing or something.
Went to play a video today in Mixed Reality Portal (still on Win10) and it now won't play the video in VR. The last change a couple of months ago made it so you couldn't browse files in "Films and TV". Thankfully a kind person on here pointed out to me that you can find the files in Explorer and tell it to open them in Films and TV. But now it appears they've taken away the option to actually view a file in VR. If you click the 360 button now it stays in the window and lets you move the camera with the mouse.
I don't get why Microsoft just keep taking these little steps to break it instead of just killing it off completely.
In the WMR home, there's the option to furnish it with objects, plant pots, chairs etc. from a couple of popup lists. The objects are then downloaded from MS and are stored on the PC. Where are they stored?
Many people have not wanted to purchase from Pimax due to quality control. Despite this I personally bought the Pimax Crystal Light anyway and I’m very happy with the comfort Clarity and Visuals. $900 isn’t exactly cheap but for an inside out tracked pcvr headset it’s way cheaper than other HMDs out there.
Regardless of Pimax’s setbacks I have faith in them and respectfully don’t want to give up on them. Please try to understand.
Since WMR started shutting down we have only had HMDs that were crazy expensive and required separately bought base stations and controllers.
Hopefully in the future there’ll be companies other than Pimax and we can all speak with them about affordable and budget range HMDs. Maybe we’ll eventually get a new HMD with the same specs and audio quality. Basically a copy of the Reverb G2 in stats on paper but with Pancake or aspheric resin lenses.
No standalone vr headset will provide the visuals and long play sessions that only a DisplayPort cable HMD can so hopefully we get more options for people to replace their Windows Mixed Reality headsets in the future.
Again I hope no one’s mad at me for buying from Pimax.
Hi,
was someone able to play Behemoth successfully on HP Reverb G2?
I can't launch it without SteamVR via WMR OpenXR Runtime, I get "No supported VR Device (Head Mounted Display) found. You must have a supported device to play this game." error. (I see now that people get this error on various headsets and their respective OpenXR runtimes - Pimax, Varjo etc. Seems like the game is artificially blocking the non-whitelisted HMDs?)
With SteamVR as my OpenXR runtime I can launch it, but there's a huge issue - the whole world moves when I move the headset, my head. It's unplayable and nauseating.
When I launch SteamVR dashboard so the game should be paused, I can see that the world moves still in the background and then gets back to initial position.
FPS is at 90, stable. It's not a performance issue but some kind of SteamVR issue with this game and WMR.
PC Spec: Windows 11 23H2, Ryzen 7 9800X3D, RTX 4090, 32GB RAM.
Thanks for any help with that :) Hopefully it's fixable and not the start of inevitable abandonware problems. Heard Pimax headsets also can't run the game without SteamVR with native OpenXR but they don't seem to have "world moving" issue.
The Windows Mixed Reality Clan for Beat Saber! Join today!
https://discord.gg/9WPhwfcEwC
I have an hp reverb g1 and I keep getting the 4-1.error without fail. And it says check your USB cable. If I go back to "check if my PC is wmr ready" (whilst I have the headset connected). It says I don't have any USB 3.0 ports and won't let me proceed. If I disconnect the headset the test works but connecting the headset gives me the error again.
Any help?
Any way to bypass this even tho it's reading a 2.0 connection? No video is showing just audio from YouTube.
Was curious if anyone here also has a Odyssey+ and has ever replaced the ear cups, mine have started to peel, and I love the headset, but just need to get new cups to replace the OEM ones.
Anyone ever have to do this?
Will I be able to use a hp reverb g2 if I don't upgrade my os to windows 11?
I got a dell visor couple years ago and shortly into it's lifespan the display started blacking out after I slightly moved the headset around during use.
I couldn't figure the problem out at the time and chalked it up to a problem with my PC
Fast forward to today, I have a new PC and dusted off the headset only for the problem to persist.
I'm assuming this is something wrong with my HDMI cable? The headset still connects to my PC fine and the little sensor camera *seems* to work, so the headset isn't completely dead, it's just a problem with the display.
Is anyone able to help me out? Am I missing some drivers or something?
I have an HP headset that doesn't really work with wmr and I want to play steam vr games with it, but many games are a mix of both wmr and steam vr so they work just fine but on other games they only run smoothly using steam as the open xr, but the my vr headset doesn't work properly enough to play the games, games like rec room run just fine but something like into the radius 2 (I know it's beta) are super jitty but play just fine. so I'm wondering how to get away from the wmr, aswell as before microsoft drop support entirely.
Hello folk, stupid question here to put me in an unsafe state while I wait for Valves next headset...
What is the most effective way to prevent Windows 11 from installing the update that takes away Mixed Reality Portal or WMR?
Hi,
Just upgraded my PC with a new AMD 9800 x3d processor and MSI 870 tomahawk motherboard. When I try to launch Mix Reality Portal I get the error code 7-11 and the message "This PC's processor won't work with Windows Mixed Reality".
Also, the Reverb G2 headset does not light up (the HP logo on front) even though it's working fine on a different machine with Intel 10900k (my old PC that I am upgrading from). Video card is a 4090 and I'm running win10 with the latest updates.
Can anyone help me get to the bottom of this? Google didn't seem to help with this one...
L.E. Solved with the latest BIOS update.
Reason I'm posting about Pimax on here is because of the situation with Windows Mixed reality Being dead now. I think it's very important we discuss this and that people share their feedback about all this in the comments.
Windows Mixed Reality vr headsets were a nice affordable way to get people on pcvr through a displayport cable without having to worry about battery life or compressed image. But now unfortunately there is an update on Windows 11 that will make the WMR software unusable and Windows 10 will not be around forever, so if you have a Windows Mixed Reality Headset you will need to buy a new one soon. Ever since then we have not had any affordable pcvr headsets on the market below $1000 until the Pimax Crystal Light showed up.
I've been talking to Quorra Pimax on the Pimax subreddit about this situation and they said Pimax would make some very high end pcvr headsets but also some affordable pcvr headsets under $1000 with inside out tracking.
Right now the Pimax Crystal Light is a total of $900 with inside out tracking. Now I know that's not quite cheap but it does have inside out tracking and its own controllers so you don't need to spend that annoying extra $500 on base stations and index controllers to use this device.
Maybe in the future Pimax will make pcvr headsets that are even cheaper than $900 that way we have even more affordable option that will help us quit worrying about headset battery life and make things much easier.
Pimax's reputation on Reddit isn't great and they do have some quality control issues but they admitted they have issues to work on and they're getting better. I went on their website, talked to pimax customer service about this, and I promised them that I would wait patiently for them to check my unit before sending it to the warehouse. When I got my crystal Light my unit was working perfectly fine and my lenses were not defective at all. The view was nice and clear and the fov and sweetspot was huge. Also the Smas speakers sound pretty good but I might also be buying the dmas speakers.
I do wanna mention that the Crystal Light was a little buggy for me on steamvr, sometimes the screen would stutter and jitter little for a moment but this doesn't happen all the time and it does clear up after a minute. Good news is that I got on Pimax Play and managed to start playing on my vr headset without having to resort to asking others for help.
I'm very proud of Pimax and their accomplishments at making a pcvr headset with it's own built in tracking and spot on visuals for a solid price. They're trying to get pcvr down to a more reasonable price and I wanna support that and encourage Pimax to keep doing so and going this route since they might be the only company willing to do this for us right now. I think its very important that they succeed and that we all root for Pimax because if they stick around and continue going this route with their future headsets over the years to make pcvr much more accessible to others out there then we might have a chance to finally get pcvr back where it needs to be.
It's not like we all are rich and just have $3000 everyday to spend on a crazy expensive vr headset.
Basically I'm telling you to please go tell Pimax that they need to keep making affordable and more accessible pcvr headsets cheer them on since we really need them to stick around in the future so they can keep going the midrange pcvr route. I heard the Pimax Crystal Light is their number one selling vr headset right now so that might encourage them to keep getting some of their headsets below $1000 without any base stations or overpriced index controllers required.
I hope sharing my feedback on the Pimax Crystal Light encourages former WMR users in the past to go out and spread the word that Pimax needs to be successful.
I understand Pimax has a bad reputation and people have had hard times with them but I think we all need Pimax right now more than ever since they most likely are our only hope for affordable pcvr now. This is exactly what they need to be doing for the sake of us all continuing our hobbies. In fact a whole lot of other different companies should've started making affordable displayport cable vr headsets by now in my opinion.
Lighthouse tracking is very old, it has been around since 2019 with the Valve index. It is time for Base stations to become a thing of the past with pcvr headsets. It's bad enough that just the vr headsets alone like the somnium vr1, varjo xr4, and meganex superlight 8k are over $1000 and have been becoming overwhelmingly expensive. So I think it's ridiculous how we have to spend an extra $500-$600 on base stations and index controllers just to start playing our vr headsets. At this point Lighthouse tracking should only be an optional upgrade for users who wish to have the best tracking out there and they have the extra money to spend on it. Like how Pimax has a optional lighthouse faceplate available to put on your inside out pcvr headset if you so wish to use your headset with lighthouses.
If you're looking for a replacement to your Hp Reverb G2 or any Windows Mixed Reality headset you have then I totally recommend you look at buying the Pimax Crystal Light. I will put a link somewhere for you to head over and buy it. Because I love mine and I'm having such a good time with it. My unit is excellent and has been totally working just fine for the most part.
Link for the Crystal Light: https://pimax.com/products/pimax-crystal-light
Also please visit the Pimax discord server if you wanna hear more about their upcoming vr headsets like the Pimax Crystal super and maybe you can talk to the Pimax moderators as well about this situation with Windows Mixed Reality. https://discord.gg/axJ4Y2M9s8
Pcvr has just been getting unreasonably expensive for too long and now it's time for that to start change.
Hi guys,
I'm a student at the Salzburg University of Applied Sciences in Austria. The topic for my masters thesis is "Ergonomics of Head-Mounted Displays" (HMDs). I'm searching for someone who would like to give a short interview regarding their stance on XR/AR/MR/VR Technology. The interview will be about 30 minutes max.
I'm looking for people that use HMDs in their daily life and/or over extended periods of time. Gamers, tech enthusiasts and also specifically people that use HMDs in professional settings. (e.g. 3D Modelling, Animation, Training, etc...)
If you are an experienced user of HMDs and would like to tell your opinion or if you even just want to help out a student an fellow redditor, please send me a DM.
Many Thanks!
Edit: This account is pretty new bc i want to keep my private stuff separate from uni.
Someone started this petition back in February. Somehow, this is the first time I've seen it:
Urge Microsoft to Make Windows Mixed Reality VR Platform Open Source
The great WMR purge has begun.
"This feature is no longer part of this Windows version".
"Update" does nothing if "confirm" isn't pressed first
Any news about workarounds or such?
I have an opportunity to get a wmr device for very very cheap. I use win11. Is there any way that i can use the glasses? I've been a fan of virtual reality gaming but i can not afford any of them. this is a huge opportunity for me. If i get it can i use it to at least play half life alyx😅. I really dont want to downgrade to win10. Is there any other way?
Edit: i should add i don't know anything about vr programs. I've heard openxr and steamvr. can they be used on win11?
What games can I play on this Laptop:
Acer Aspire F5-573G
Intel Core i5 7200U-3,7 GHz
32 GB DDR4 RAM
Nvidia GTX 950m 4GB
Looks like it has everything included. Is there anything cool I can do with hardware that is this old? I've had an oculus & other VR headsets, but I was wondering if this thing was cool to use or not! Thanks for your time!
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Basically what the title says, if I try to download "WMR for Steam VR" it says "This item is currently unavailable in your region." I can't seem to find anyone else having this problem. If i try to download by starting steam vr it says license unavailable.
Has anyone had issues with the menu button on OpenXR? For example I can't pause songs on Beat Saber but when using an older pre-OpenXR version it works fine. It happens with other OpenXR software too, I'm running the SteamVR runtime out of convenience for the Steam dashboard. However even when I switch to the WMR runtime, it still doesn't work. I use an Odyssey+ with the matching Samsung controllers. I've looked into it but haven't seen much solutions or people talking about it.
Everything works in portal, except for clicking the left stick to reset view/height (in 6dof mode). JKXR doesn't launch at all, so I refunded it until I hear otherwise. :)
Thanks!
FYI Both need to be run under SteamVR not Open XR.
I have a folder (with lots of subfolders) on an external hard drive that through some sort of glitch has become inaccessible through the standard Windows File Browser (while other files on that same external hard drive are still accessible), while I still can find those same files through Google Chrome, but I can't edit/delete/copy or do much else with them.
I would like to know if there's some way to restore/recreate a file folder that would let me access those files. I've already tried to get access through the recycle bin, but no luck.